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22:50And they essentially create this bubble around your cells. So we're all familiar with the term leaky gut. And I talk often about this concept of leaky cells. So you get these holes in that bubble. And then the bad stuff that should be protected from your cells, that's supposed to be floating around in what's called the extracellular matrix, are getting into our cells. These microplastics, these viruses, these toxins, these heavy metals, these chemicals from things like, you know, bleach and cleaning agents and makeup. All of these things are getting into that leaky cell and they're getting into our mitochondrial nuclear DNA and they're altering our health.

23:30So something, we all have an Achilles heel. So my Achilles heel has always been my thyroid. I always lean towards hypothyroidism, my thyroid, my gut. It's like hereditary gallbladder issues. We all have what that Achilles heel is. For some, it may be certain types of cancer in their genetics. For some, it's autoimmune disease. When these little things get into our cells and alter our epigenetics, those Achilles heel issues are activated sooner than they should be.

24:00Lindsey Simcik:you mentioned seed oil so i'm curious about like kind of that whole um campaign against seed oils and what is actually true what you believe what what seed oils it's so hard are in are in the pc in balance oil so that's a different product we make but it's really important okay so i'll distinguish between the two there is seed oils that are rancid chemically treated, heated, transferred into, you know, your local supermarket canola oil that's just awful, oxidized and terrible for you. And then that's sent to a restaurant and that's used to cook your food. It's heated to very high temperatures and it's completely oxidized.

24:43That's going to damage your cells. Then there's essential fatty acids that come from seeds that come from our food. We actually don't make essential fatty acids in our body. We need to consume them from foods. And right now we are throwing the baby out with the bathwater. We are considering essential fatty acids to be seed oils and we're throwing everything out. So people are becoming extremely afraid of any time they see safflower, sunflower, flaxseed oil. And these things are critically important to ourselves. They are responsible for cell membrane, that bubble that protects our cells. They're responsible for keeping it robust and healthy and looking like a grape instead of shriveled up like a raisin.

25:23And we need ourselves to have these healthy fats, these polyunsaturated fats, these essential fatty acids in order to function properly. And so we're having this very myopic view of seed oils that is damaging. And when you speak to registered dietitians, when you speak to people who really study this stuff, they understand the nuance and the difference between the two. And so being afraid of nuts, being afraid of raw I think raw seeds are like one of the most beneficial thing that women, particularly with hormonal regulation, seed cycling, great for our hormonal health, really important for our cycles.

25:59But you're seeing people say like, oh, no, I can't eat sunflower seeds or I can't eat flax because they have seed oils in them. Two very different things. So one is processed, one is not.

26:09Lindsey Simcik:One is oxidized, one is not. Exactly. Okay. Yeah. With the seed cycling, how do you use seed cycling in your life? I do it. I love it. Wow. Yeah. I was getting these like headaches kind of after my third baby. I, you know, I was really working on after I had him liver health, liver detoxification. I've always kind of lent towards like fat malabsorption, gallbladder issues. So I was working on taking the right supplements and the right kind of tinctures and things to make sure that my hormones were actually processing correctly. But about like nine months afterwards and then about a year afterwards when I was ending breastfeeding, that happens again.

26:47And I was getting these headaches and a friend of mine was like, you should try sea cycling. And I started doing it and I love it. So during certain phases, I'll have pumpkin seeds and sunflower seeds. And then I switch to – I'm sorry, safflower and pumpkin and then switch to sunflower at the end of my cycle.

27:05Lindsey Simcik:Yeah. And then I also incorporate evening primers oil and balance oil. So balance oil is supplying a very carefully treated version of these oils in an organic form, cold pressed. And so I'm getting all those in to make sure I'm getting the right fats for hormone regulation, hormone production, all of these. Should children be taking these oils? 100%. Okay. Tell me more about that. I even recommend because I have so many people, if you can't breastfeed, you're getting these essential fatty acids through the mother when you breastfeed. If you are not, you look in formulas. So many of these formulas include dried or dehydrated versions of these oils.

27:40It's the processing that destroys the oils and the way they work in the body. So you want to be giving them these oils in the right form. So I always suggest balance oil, even at a low dose in baby formula, can be used at like, you know, half a teaspoon in there. But my children, including when I started getting them on foods and started eating kind of eggs and meats and different things, bone broths, I would always put a little balance oil in there. Okay. Yeah. Great. If someone was listening and they heard egg yolks and eggs, and then they also heard the seed oils, is it true that they could include both of those in their diet and that they'd be fine?

28:15You can start to, but don't include seed oils, include the unprocessed, right? The seeds. Include the seeds, include the nourishing, nutrient-dense, whole food forms of these things. Egg yolks in particular, if you can digest them, if you can't digest them, you need to address your gallbladder health. You need to address your bile flow. And one way that I did that in particular, anytime I felt that, have you guys ever felt that like upper quadrant pain, gallbladder issues?

28:42Lindsey Simcik:No. For people who experience it, it's awful. And typically it's going to lead to gallstones and somebody having their gallbladder removed. But you can do things ahead of time to get that bile moving and get those gallstones moving. A couple of products I love for that. We make a product called Tudka that's extremely powerful at getting bile flow and liver health intact. there's another product called gallbladdernd by premier research formulas love that milk thistle also can help it's not a cure but these things can kind of help to get the the bioflow moving and the second that happened you can digest eggs again but for the people who are like i can't eat an egg it just makes me nauseous that's why i've become a little bit of a supplement skeptic lately not because I don't believe in them, but because I started asking, is my body actually absorbing any of this?

29:34Lindsey Simcik:That's what I find so fascinating about the absorption company. They're focused on solving the biggest problem in supplements, low absorption. Most supplements absorb at less than 16%, meaning a lot of what we're taking never actually gets utilized by the body. I've been using their magnesium, which supports things like sleep, stress regulation, and recovery. And And most magnesium absorbs really, really poorly, but theirs absorbs eight times better. I've also been taking their berberine because most berberine absorbs at less than 1%. And theirs was designed to deliver significantly better bioavailability to support metabolism, blood sugar, and craving support.

30:17Lindsey Simcik:Start taking supplements your body can actually absorb. Go to absorbmore.com and enter almost 30 at checkout for up to 35 % off your first order. That's absorbmore.com and enter almost 30 at checkout for 35 % off your first order. Oh, interesting. Yeah, eggs are sometimes gross to me. Yeah, depending on how it's cooked. And then sometimes I'm like, I don't know, maybe it's where it's from. Maybe it's just a feeling. Yeah, totally. Sometimes I just like look at them and I'm like, that's so gross. Have you had a journey with like your diet, fads, trends, like vegan, not anything like that? I haven't stuck to a lot of fats.

30:58I think I had to be really restrictive in my early 20s when I was going through all the stomach issue things. And I think it did lead to kind of unhealthy eating patterns that I recognized and dealt with. And I think once I could eat again and once I've understood how to feed the body the nutrient-dense foods, I think it's really changed my health trajectory, but also how I am as a mother, how I cook for my kids. What does that look like for you today? A lot of whole foods. So it's really a lot of whole foods, fruits and vegetables, as much organic as possible when it's not just making sure it's cleaned.

31:31A lot of meats, a lot of eggs starting our day off with protein. And, you know, looking for the healthiest alternatives that you can. I was shocked the other day. I was just looking for kind of back to school things. How much is out there? if you really start looking for it that are better options than kids' snacks and Doritos and Cheetos and all this crap that you find out there. And there's good options out now. Yeah. And you've got to get creative.

31:56Lindsey Simcik:I think that's why, you know, like the processed food, it is so convenient. It is so quick. And like with the, just the chaos of like trying to feed multiple kids, especially, I think some parents just are like, I just need to do the easy thing, which I totally get. But I do agree with you. It takes a little bit of that part. That's like eggs. Let's just start our day with protein. You may go to school and pick up something in the cafeteria that I'm not going to want you to eat. That's okay. It's a balancing act both if you're a parent and if you're not. It's a balancing act in running down the street in New York City and having a 20-minute lunch break and looking for the best possible option.

32:36Do you have time in the morning to cook yourself lunch? If you don't, how do you find the right things? I think that we are, I'm seeing so much unhealthy behavior around these fads and the trends in eating and in foods and restrictive avoidance of things that I think that's also a huge problem. And I think balance is so important to the conversation. I agree. Yeah, a lot of people when they have an illness or autoimmune, they become so fearful of food. Yeah. You know, and I think that's, yeah, it's been interesting. Like the more information that's out there around certain foods, the fear that people have of foods, you know, it's almost like a lot of the public doesn't know how bad food is.

33:15But then a lot now know and now have this fear that can kind of turn to eating disorder. I see that all the time in Los Angeles. I'm sure. It's like the overabundance of information, of testing, of all this. Like, yeah, it's just like, okay. It's a lot. It's a lot. And I think for me, a big part of what we do at Body Bio in particular is about how do we help you with the foundation that's going to set you up for more success and have that balance in your life overall. And I think we see that so often when people start taking the products is they feel differently. They feel better. They remark on how much more their brain is functioning.

33:55and it's just foundational supports that we need in everyday life in today's world is really what it comes down to. What's the sodium butyrate? Yeah, that stuff's fascinating. So it's a product that my grandfather developed. It's made in the body. So we make sodium butyrate in the body. It's a byproduct when you have a really healthy microbiome and like who has a healthy microbiome these days? You know, it's so crazy. Everything you're saying, I'm like, I do. I'm like, like everyone feels sick i'm like i don't good i feel so well i feel so i don't have any health issues i love that not to be like a bitch but i'm just like i just want to offer you have good genetics yeah i would say that for sure you can't i would be delusional to not think but also it's like when you take care of your emotional health your physical and your mental health like it should be working yeah you know and you give it foundational support you can be very successful with your health journey.

34:51And I think a lot of people are devoid of those things. And they're living in the wrong types of environments and they're really stressed out about it. And it takes an emotional toll on their health and all of these things kind of cascade into a large problem. Mentally, not so well all the time, physically. Okay. So sodium butyrate, healthy byproduct of healthy bio. Yeah. It's so cool. It's responsible for so many different things in the body. It's super anti-inflammatory in the gut, but it also helps to regulate the immune system to like tell the immune cells what type of immune function to actually act as.

35:21And systemically, what we are seeing in today's world is people are low in butyrate production. And so you have a disrupted gut. You do not have the right keystone strains of bacteria in your gut, which is happening even from birth these days. And then the overprescription of antibiotics and gut disrupting chemicals and glyphosates and pesticides and all of these things that are disrupting the pathways in our gut are not allowing enough butyrate to be made. and butyrate is just such a cool molecule. And, you know, it's, it's talked about in terms of like bloating and regularity and all these like great benefits, but at the foundation of it, it's essentially creating like a happy environment for your gut and it's super effective.

35:59Lindsey Simcik:Wow. Yeah. What, what's your thought around, um, the gluten intolerance that people have? So we think it's, we, I guess the, the main headline is like, our wheat is treated with glyphosate and And that's the main thing. Do you have any other thoughts on that? Like as far as like gut health goes? Yeah, I do. I mean, I think we've, if you look at a package of Italian pasta, there's three ingredients. If you look at an American pasta, there's 10. Yeah. I think that the over kind of processing of these things has damaged our food sourcing. And so I think that's why you have so many people returning to like making sourdough or looking for, there's a great place at our farmer's market that's actually in New York farmer's markets as well called Lost Bread.

36:40And it's going back to making bread in the original ways, limited ingredients, organic ingredients when you can, and just making it in the more traditional ways that's fermenting the dough that's allowing it to be broken down in the body better. But I think that a lot of the intolerances are built up over time because we have so many disrupted systems, whether it's your brain, whether it's your liver, whether it's your gut, in the body. And so we're so much more reactive to these things in general. I'm a pretty much like gluten avoider, but I don't go crazy about it. I'm not asking for gluten-free sauces in restaurants.

37:15I'm enjoying the time I get to spend in a restaurant with my loved ones and not kind of going crazy about things like that. I try to control what's in my home for my children. And then outside of the home, if they go to a birthday party and need a piece of pizza, great. Some people don't have that luxury, right? Some people have GI disorders in which they really can't and things like celiac. But I think you're seeing these things on the rise because we have such a disrupted system in the first place. Yeah. I know I've – I remember a long time ago we had someone on and they were talking about how it's the glyphosates.

37:45Yeah. So oftentimes they're spraying the corn and the wheat with glyphosate and then it sits in these silos. Same with oats. Yeah, same with oats. And then it just like creates mold or, you know, just kind of sits. And so then it's not only the mold but it's the glyphosate that people are really having the reaction. to when they have gluten or celiac rather than the actual thing. And that's why when you go to Europe, they don't use the glyphosates like we do. So you can actually have it. So it's more of like a glyphosate issue. It is. There's a lot of different herbicides and desiccants that are used in this processing of all of our food.

38:19Wow. What's a desiccant? Removing the moisture. Wow. Yeah. So it's a way in those silos to remove the moisture. Wow. Yeah. Isn't that crazy? It's like, this is oats. And you're like, okay. And then it's like, desiccant glyphosate. But the same thing happens in supplements. And so, you know, I see this all the time. And there's really bizarre regulation around like what you can put on a label and what you can't. But there's a lot of things that are used as processing agents and processing aids that are not included on labels. And so I think it's a big problem. And it's not transparent. And most of the supplements that you're taking are made by some contract manufacturer who is probably not even sharing that information with the person that walked in that door to make that product.

39:05So they wouldn't even know unless they asked to really look at the product specification documents exactly what's in there.

39:11Lindsey Simcik:Wow. What concerns you about some of these processes? I think it's the taking an oat and destroying it, denaturing it, making it less nutrient dense in that process. It's the same with a seed oil, right? It's taking something that should be processed this way. It should be protected. One that actually I was talking to Courtney about the other day is fish oil. The processing and the adding of these chemicals and solvents to get this fish oil out destroys the delicate nature of that essential fatty acid. That is a polyunsaturated fat. It is omega-3. It is part of the omega-3 pathway in the body.

39:50it's delicate and we are just kind of taking it and ruining it and then putting it in a pill and saying here take this it's going to help your body is anyone doing it right i mean i do it right i

40:02Lindsey Simcik:know you do right but with but in terms of like does it have to be i think there are companies i think there are companies that are looking to be really traceable and showing and transparent i think ritual is doing a good job with that um i think in terms of quality control and showing you what's going on in their process and why they put certain things. Now Foods is a really interesting company that's doing that well. It's a family owned company as well. I think what happens when larger conglomerates come in and buy some of these smaller companies that you thought you trusted for so long and practitioners trusted, they change those things.

40:35They change a lot of those little things. And this is why people have such an uproar when Siete Foods gets purchased. Did you see they already started to change it?

40:43Lindsey Simcik:Oh, they did? Yeah, of course. And that doesn't always happen. So they already started to change the recipe. Interesting. What changed specifically? I think they switched a few things, but someone like called it out and they're like, hey, thanks for letting us know. We're just trying out a few different forms of the recipe. Yeah. Because who bought it? Pepsi? Uniliver? I think that was Pepsi. I thought it was Pepsi. Yeah. Dude, it's just every time. Wow. Sometimes it's okay, but it's typically when like a smaller. Totally. I tell my husband, I'm like, we need to make like a better version of one of those, right?

41:19Oh, that's interesting. It'd be such a great thing to do and have like all this. Sorry, what? Like a larger conglomerate that's doing things differently. In the CPG space, that would be so relevant. And that would be so, because there's so many, especially in the CPG food industry, there's so much happening right now. So much, because so many brands came on the scene in like 2020, that time. And now so many brands are going under. And so it'd actually be like a really smart time for that. I know supplements would be a little bit different. Or even having like your own labeling system. Like I've thought about that a little bit where it's like applying for your own like body bio approved labels.

41:53So it's like going through certain certifications. There's some of these things coming up. There's one called Supco that I know we're in that they take a look at like all the documents and the quality control checks. Wow. All of the because the other problem is a lot of these certifications like, you know, verified, whatever, gluten free or certified regenerative, whatever it is, they're expensive. So they're expensive on the manufacturer's part for testing every batch can cost thousands of dollars. So it's it's a it's a delicate dance.

42:26Lindsey Simcik:I want to talk about skin care. Yeah, because I feel like one of the there's many benefits to your products. But I think one of the most obvious benefits to me is just better skin health in a real way. And I feel like I do the most when it comes to skin care. And I've just really loved the difference I've experienced. I feel like my skin is more plump. I feel like my skin has like more life to it. Sometimes like, you know, you look in the mirror, you're like, my skin looks a little dull. Why? So it's been really incredible. So can you speak to your skin journey and just kind of what you've experimented with, what's worked, what's not, and why specifically your products are incredible for skin health?

43:10I've always been the type of person to be doing lasers, 20s and 30s. Like I was always experimenting. I was always going to a facialist even when I had no money and I couldn't afford it. I was like, I'm going to save. I'm going to make sure I go see my facialist at least once a quarter. and I was always experimenting with different skincare, probably since the age of, you know, really young when I shouldn't have been using those things. But I just loved it. I always have. When I started getting involved in body bio and I was sending all my friends, you know, different products, I would always send them foundational, which is PC, Balance Oil, and Putyrate.

43:42And about a month later, they would say to me, why does my skin look so great? Why is my hair falling out less? Why do I look more radiant? Why, you know, why are my under eye bags seeming to get better? and for the longest time, I was like, oh, that's great. It's just, you know, it's taking care of your foundation of your health, and I didn't really put much to it, and I was speaking to a friend who's a dermatologist a few years ago, and we were talking about it because she said, god, your skin looks really, really good. What are you doing? And I said, well, I've been taking a ton of, you know, ton of fats.

44:11I'm getting those healthy fats, and we were talking more in depth about it. Our skin is our largest organ. Our organs are made up of cells. If our cells are deficient in the bioactive fats that make up our cells, they're going to look dull and sunken and shriveled. Talked about that shriveled raisin versus a plump grape. And when you start feeding your cells the right fats, you will see better quality in the skin. You will see more plumpness in your skin as you age. You will see better texture, less skin laxity because you're feeding the cells exactly what they need. And so it sounds like snake oil when we talk about PC and balance oil and these healthy fats, because you're like, oh, it's going to help with your brain fog.

44:55It's going to help with your gut. It's going to help with your liver. And then it's also going to help with your skin. But all of these things are made up of our cells. And so when we talk about that, like foundation, it's helping to plump from within. So a couple of things that I think are really critically important for our skin are these two, the two products, the healthy fats, antioxidants like vitamin C, I think are really important for that building the collagen synthesis. I don't take a collagen supplement. I just support the body's ability to produce collagen and then eat the right foods.

45:25And then I think it's also like specific treatment. So we talked a little bit about just doing alternatives to things. So I don't do Botox, but I've done a fat transfer. I don't do any fillers. That's what helped me there. I'm actually going after this to do my second PRF. So I'm doing another under eye PRF, which I noticed great results from the first one. I've heard such good things.

45:47Lindsey Simcik:Yeah. And what is it exactly? So they take your blood, they spin it, and they inject the stem cells back in. And so it helps with under eye bags. Exactly. Any darkness, it just kind of fills it in. I noticed a huge difference. Yeah. And even the first one that I did, typically they recommend three. So I'm going to try two and see how it is. Great. Yeah.

46:11And then most recently, I did a really cool treatment. I'm going to pause on my lasers. And I want to focus on two treatments that I'm looking at. So one is called the Photona. And then the other is Neogen. And this is a hot plasma treatment that they treated. I did my whole face. I did my neck. I'm going to do my chest next. And it was fascinating to see the before and after. And so the woman who helped me with it is out in the Hamptons, Jess Arden at Hamptons Biomed. They were trained by the owner of this device. And apparently it helps with hyperpigmentation wrinkles. It helps with skin laxity.

46:46It helps with everything. So I actually did a treatment in my lips and then I did the full face and it's been the best investment in that type of kind of laser category that I've done so far. So it helps to thicken the skin as opposed to thin it, which lasers do. Is it the plasma babe? Does she does that? Have you heard of plasma babe? I don't know.

47:05Lindsey Simcik:Yeah, she does a little. Yes. I wonder if that's it because that's the plasma. Is that what it is? Like little dots? It's like this little flash of this thing. And then does it look like little black dots? Mine didn't, but I think some can. Some can. Yeah. Interesting. That's interesting. But I was excited to hear about that one. Lasers really work for my skin, but I think you have to be very careful. Like if you have a very – like a lot of my friends have more melanin, it does not work. No. You know, if you have like sensitive skin, it does not work. So it's like lasers are very good for specific people.

47:36Yeah. But I haven't done one in a really long time. I'm like a good, I was doing them every quarter. Yeah, that's cool. I'm going to focus on this Neogen. I'm going to see how it goes. Yeah, that's good. And then I'm really focusing on like from within, what am I doing afterwards to make sure that my skin's not drying out. So just making sure I'm taking the right products. We put together a little bundle called Skin Cell Essentials that has PC, Balance Oil, and Liposomal C. So it just makes it easier for people. People want simplicity. So I'll give you some simplicity. Because we all don't do Botox.

48:01People love that conversation. What's your reasoning for not? time? I think I tried it once. Yeah, I think I think I tried it when I was like 39, maybe 40. And it just didn't feel right to me. I felt like intuitively, I was like, I feel like I need to, I want to crawl out of my skin right now. Yeah. I wanted that frozen forehead look. I wanted the no wrinkles in my forehead. And then when I got it and looked back at pictures of myself, I thought my facial movement changed and I didn't really look like me. And I think that in the age of social media, when we're on video so much, I could feel it more and I could see it more.

48:39And so for me, it just didn't resonate. I do think there are, you know, there are questions about it crossing into certain things. I've had a very close family friend who did it for a very long time actually do it. And then about three weeks later, started seeing double and went through every scan known to man. It was nothing to do with her brain. And her doctor finally said, I think this is because of Botox. And I think you see so many people who have had reactions and have mast cell activation syndrome and have reactions to it that we can't just think it's just staying here. It is going to other places.

49:12I will say that when you are taking the healthy fats, when you're eating body bio PC and balanced oil, it does help to remove a lot of these biotoxins from the body. So we're doing an amazing clinical trial next year on microplastics, looking at the decrease in microplastics in the body using body biopc. I can't make the claim yet, but I can talk about the trial because I've seen case studies that we've been doing where you're seeing 100 % reduction in microplastics. And so it's going to go in and help to remove a lot of these biotoxins anyway. So I just kind of doubled up on my PC after Botox and thought like, this just isn't for me.

49:47I'm not going to do this again. And what about it is it's pulling like toxins out and when you are flooding the body with the right fats, it will actually go in and grab onto fat soluble toxins and help to excrete them through the body, through sweat, through bowel movements, through urination. It's going to actually help through all those detoxification pathways.

50:05Lindsey Simcik:Okay. Yeah. Um, what do you feel like are some other biohacks that you're doing right now that you swear by? Exposure to the sun in healthy, safe ways, exposing your eyes to the sun. I'm such a, you know, I've always been into fashion and I've always loved my sunglasses, but I'm like putting them aside because I just want to get my eyes and sunlight, particularly first thing in the morning. That's something I do as a mom. I make sure I wake up before my children are up. I need that time to just kind of center myself and get ready for the chaos of the day. And I start my day by having my coffee and looking at the sun almost every day, not even at the sun.

50:46You're not staring at the sun. You're looking at the sky. You're getting your eyes exposed so that you can regulate your melatonin production and your circadian rhythm. That's, I think, a really strong biohack that I've been into lately. Seed cycling, I think, is another one that I've been experimenting with the last year that I'm really liking. Movement, I think, is so critically important. What are you doing to move? I just make sure I walk every day. I love Pilates. I love weightlifting. I love kettlebell workouts. But for me, if I can't find the time because my life is so busy and so chaotic right now, as long as I make sure I can get out for a walk and just have that movement and have a little bit of time to myself, I think it's really important.

51:23So I tried to do it right after I dropped the kids off at camp or work or at school, whatever it is. And then some other things that, you know, I've just been swapping out, drinking more coffee, trying to go. I'm starting with, you know, matchas in the middle of the day. Vitamin Bs, I think are critically important for women. So I've been really optimizing my B intake. And then also little hacks. Like if we're sitting in front of a computer all day, I make sure I'm wearing blue light blockers. So you'll always see me not, you know, in the middle of this because the reflection, but I always have on my yellow sunglasses.

51:54I can't do the red at night. It just doesn't work for me. I do red light bulbs in my house, but I can't, I can't do the red blue light blockers. And I always crack a window in any room that I'm in. It actually changes the structure of the light in the room. And I think it's really, really helpful for just kind of getting the right light into our rooms. So you always open a window. Crack a window. Just has to be cracked, but it actually will change the structure of the light in the room. Because? It helps to bring in the natural light that's not being restricted by the windows. By the actual window itself.

52:25Interesting. Yeah. So it helps to just bring in that natural light. I love that. From a fresh air perspective too. I love that. It's like, I also was thinking about, you know, at the beginning, we talked a little bit about your journey and the emotional experience that you went through and sort of the trauma and the response in the body. How do you support yourself emotionally and mentally? I've done a lot of work, a lot of self-work. What does that mean for you? I've done a lot of different forms of therapy, A lot of forms of group therapy. My initial trauma, my father passed away by committing suicide.

53:00That's a huge, for an 18-year-old, that is just a life-altering. Any age, it's a life-altering experience. And it's just happened to me again recently with a really close friend. And so I go back to those practices. I've been sitting on the beach just looking up at the sky a lot. I've been reflecting on the tools that I have throughout my therapy journeys. One form of therapy I'm doing now is internal family systems, IFS, which I find really helpful. And I just bought a book on somatic therapy after listening to the podcast with what was her name? Brittany Piper. Beautiful podcast. Yeah, she's great.

53:33And there's a somatic therapy and IFS book. So I reached out to Susan who wrote that book and asked for somatic therapists that actually also process and do IFS. So really working through. I'm going to Spain with Dick next month.

53:47Lindsey Simcik:Amazing. I'm excited. Yeah. And just, you know, working on those types of things at this point in my life, I wish I had more time to do more self work. And so I need to do it in the bits that I can. And then I need to make sure I'm showing up in the right way. And authentically for my husband, for my children, for my family members, for my community, for body bio, and and doing it in a way that feels authentic to me. So in the last 10 days, I just I was like, I need it off. I don't want to be on. I don't want to be on social media. I don't want to do this. I don't want to think about it. I just need time to to be on my own and just take a breath for a minute.

54:27So this is the first kind of podcast or anything I'm doing. And then I'm on a schedule of a bunch of others. But I think I just sometimes we need a minute and taking that time for yourself is really important. Yeah.

54:37Lindsey Simcik:What's been your relationship with social media? Yeah. It's a tough one. I have a hard boundary that I've set on my personal of I don't want to do it. I don't want my kids on there. I don't want my kids seeing me with a camera. I don't want them to see me. Not that there's anything wrong with it. It's just my personal boundary that I've placed on my privacy. I love to educate. We've always led with our marketing at Body Bio is education. How do we provide the foundation so that people can understand these weird things like phosphatidylcholine and butyrate? And so you'll see me on stories, educating, but I draw that line there.

55:18And then I've got a great team who helped me at Body Bio with, okay, let's record this, do this. They'll set up a whole schedule for me. They'll come out and record it. And then I set that boundary again. and I'm now toying with like okay what are my boundaries on other platforms are there other ways that I can educate and do what feels good to me whether it's x or whether it's LinkedIn I haven't figured that out but I was walking with a friend the other morning just on the beach and I I said to her I think I'm just I cannot do Instagram I don't want to be doing reels I don't want to be doing trending content it's just it doesn't resonate for me in my life at this point in my life that might change in 10 years when my babies are a little older but right now for me it's really important that that they just see me authentically that I can put away my phone and not be thinking about the brain space that it requires to oh I should record this oh let me

56:07Lindsey Simcik:get a video of my vitamin drawer I can't do it right now yeah and I you know I could probably do a bunch of content on my personal and grow it and and it would benefit body bio but I have to have boundaries totally things that don't feel right at this phase in my life very self-honoring Yeah, it was like the social media is self-honoring. And then even the path of your healing, it's like being self-honoring. Yeah. You know, just like, okay, how can I still be authentic in this process? How can I stand true? But yeah, I mean, having three kids and then being like a whole social media like that is like.

56:42And then running a business. Yeah, exactly. My husband and I are running a business together. There's nuance with that. Yeah, totally. We have like half our family working at the business. Totally. There's nuance within that. And it's all about that like balance and boundaries and understanding different relationships and the amount of time it takes to, you know, prevent myself from getting overwhelmed even with all the different things is huge. And so I think that there's just certain things that I can't commit to at this point. And I think that's important. And like your effort and energy within like the business realm is best spent on the business, on educating rather than doing the content, et cetera.

57:24Lindsey Simcik:So, yeah. It's like knowing where your energy, your talents are best spent. Yeah, it's true.

57:33it's crazy how social media for founders and like female founders it's like before it was like you had your business and now it's like everybody has to be like a full-time creator too like it's like par for the core and it's like I don't think people recognize maybe they do I don't want to I keep saying that in interviews I'm like I don't want to keep being like I don't think people understand because maybe they do but like it's a full-time job part-time job at least to be creating content, posting content, being online like that. And then also a lot of people are founders and you're doing like a full-time job.

58:05It's like the internet, the addition of social media to life is just so much time and energy that's just like expected now and is normalized. It's so crazy. It is. And I think there's a lot of health and wellness trends that are fear-based and the trending things and the things that perform well are often coming from a place of fear or sowing fear in people's minds. And I just don't, I cannot go there. I just can't. You know, I want to talk about it from a place of empowerment always. And I think for me, it's just something I try to avoid. It's like, let's educate, let's be positive. We have this amazing Facebook group with like 11 ,000 people in it that I remember starting being like, nobody's going to join this.

58:49And now it's huge. But I find so many people start in there with with the fear and it's like, okay, let's come out of that mind space and let's get to a place of abundance and getting to the root cause and being curious and understanding the why. And I think educating helps to do that.

59:06Lindsey Simcik:Yeah. So good. This has been amazing. I would love for you to recommend like your top three body bio products to someone listening. I know it can be very specific, but top three. I think it's really easy. And I put them together in a bundle during COVID because I was like, oh, this makes sense. Let's just throw it together. And I didn't really think about like the strategy behind it, but it's the true foundation of body bio and the products that my grandfather made first. And that's PC, balanced oil and butyrate. And it's convenient. It's two capsules of each a day. It's a great starting place.

59:36See how you feel. If you're feeling good, you may want to try others and you may want to dose up. If you are experiencing mold toxicity or you are dealing with Lyme, you may want to talk to your practitioner about much higher doses than that. If you're dealing with a child with neurodevelopmental issues, they may be on a higher dose, but it's a good starting place and somewhere really easy that people can start. We make everything ourselves. So we make a lot of these products in-house. Some are made, you know, at contract manufacturers under our guidelines. Some are bottled in different places or encapsulated in different places.

1:00:07And we bring it all together in New Jersey. And it allows us to have an oversight into it. But it also gives us huge constraints when some, you know, companies can come out with a multi-pack or a little sachet that makes it really easy. For us, it would take like a year to even figure out how to do that. So I don't do things in the most convenient ways for people. I also haven't added flavorings and made it taste good for people. We haven't changed the complicated names of these things for a reason because it's just inherently not who we are. And we stay very true to like what the products are and how they are found in nature and in our bodies.

1:00:42So I don't make it easy, but I think foundational makes it pretty easy for everyone.

1:00:46Lindsey Simcik:Love that. Beautiful. Amazing. So glad to have you. Thanks for being here. All right, guys. We'll see you on the next one. Bye. Love you. Bye.

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