809. The Witch Wound, Self-Trust + Channeling Your Higher Self with Lee Harris

27:03But here is what I uncovered that really blew my mind. About three days before the course, I thought to myself, I've worked with healers and practitioners now for, I've been doing workshops for 19 years. I've been putting my work out for 21. And I've always seen this kind of witch wound. And it's not always a witch, but there's this wound of, I think I was persecuted in another life because I was healer. So I thought, oh, everyone keeps going on about chat GPT and AI now. I'll go and have a look. So I literally typed in, why have healers been so persecuted in society? And the answers that came back were extensive.

27:41And I put it in a workbook and told the group, I said, hey, I just Googled this and look what came up. And it walks you through the control of religion and medicine towards and against healers, the inbuilt persecution that was created not only from things like the witch trials, which we know was a great way to get rid of influential women, influential, powerful women in their communities. We know that so many people got murdered for reasons not to do with magic or that they could heal someone in the village. But when you look at the roots of it, it all happened around the same time that the control of medicine and the control of religion came in.

28:27So it's a very real persecution wound. It's not ours to own, but it is that we have swallowed it. And everyone in society swallows it. And I mean, you see it flying around. You see it in unexamined skepticism. You know, people often say, oh, well, my friend's really skeptical about healing. And I'm like, yeah, that means they haven't had an experience and they have been trained to be skeptical. So if they had an experience or if they investigated, they might feel differently. Or if a family member of theirs was really sick and either that family member passes over and then speaks to them, that wakes them up.

29:05Or they see a healer who helped them, that wakes them up. So I think we're all dealing with this core wound. And that was why I called the course Next Level Healer, because I knew that word healer was going to be controversial. And people tend to say about healers, oh, well, so you're a healer, you think you're special? No, a healer is just somebody who works on behalf of the dimension of healing on the planet, and hold space for a transformation to take place for somebody. So we're all inadvertently healing each other as humans. You know, I might step on your wound, you might step on my wound.

29:43It's not like we were consciously trying to heal each other, but that's a healing process. But a healer is something else. A healer, whether they're doing it in their personal life or whether they're doing it in their professional life, they're someone who is saying, I'm going to hold space for your transformation. I have either studied or experienced to do this. I'm passionate about it. I not only believe in it, I know stuff about it. And I've, I've, I can, I can be in the fire with you. And that's who healers are. So part of what I did as we were leading towards the course and talked to my team about this, I said, we need to define what a healer is because a lot of people are going to go, well, I'm not a healer.

30:22And I would argue we're all healers. And then those people who hold space for the transformation of others, whether you're a doctor, a nurse, an acupuncturist, a Reiki practitioner, an astrologer, whatever you are, you are holding space for someone to either have a transformation or open to a transformation. And that is what a healer is. Yeah, it's, it's so beautiful. And I've had that same experience with some of the women in my audience, because a lot of them are empaths, people that are highly sensitive. and so they will some of the most qualified people i've met to do something usually have the biggest fear you know usually have the biggest limiting beliefs or all of the things and i think one of my core little woundings or the things that i view the world through is the belief that like narcissists always win or narcissists always succeed because they don't have that sort of like thought about the other or the you know like that was always what i've thought but it is the the people that are so heart centered in the right place that are so needed, you know, as far as being a healer.

31:21So what would you say for someone that feels like they have some sort of healing ability or desire to help someone transform, but they have the limiting beliefs about themselves, themselves? Like what would you tell them or share with them to help them get through that? Part of your healing journey is going to be overcoming those beliefs. You know, I, I was a student of self growth and metaphysics from the age of 16. I'm still a student of those things because I'm active in my own journey and paying attention and learning all the time. But for me, doing this for work became a huge self-growth journey for me.

31:55And people would often say, oh, I wish I had your confidence. And I will say, my confidence was earned on the job. And there are many things even today that I'm like, oh God, can I do that? Oh, even next level healer, I knew I had to do it. But before you go into anything that you are creating something new, you should feel some butterflies or some, there should be some energy moving through you because you're about to birth something. So I would say none of your limiting beliefs are a problem. What will be the remedy to your limiting beliefs is your willingness to keep walking, even knowing some of that stuff's going to come up, but that you have the ability to handle it.

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35:53And I love what you write about channeling. I was looking at like your Instagram recently about channeling is more so allowing than like anything else. Can you talk about that? Because I feel like there's people in the audience too, that are interested in channeling. They want to channel, maybe they want to channel, you know, a group of consciousness, or maybe they just want to channel their highest self. But how do you view channeling? And what would you say to someone that wants to start channeling? Yeah, channeling has been a really interesting journey for me, because when I first was taken to see a channel at age 20, I was skeptical.

36:25I just thought, oh, he's a really good intuitive. Why does he close his eyes and put on a funny voice? I would have accepted him just talking to me normally. Totally. You're like, you don't have to do this. Yeah, exactly. Because I thought, oh, he's clearly very intuitive because everything that came out of his mouth was quite mind blowing. And then of course it happened to me. And I wasn't looking, if anything, that was quite inconvenient. If you'd have let me be maybe a self-growth teacher, I wouldn't have felt ashamed. but I had shame about bringing the channeling to the public. I didn't for myself because I'd met my guides and I was like, my God, this is so useful and this is changing my life, but I'd better keep this private because there is a stigma associated.

37:05People think you're lying. People think you're making it up. There's all kinds of, you know, there's all kinds, there are like classic unimaginative criticisms out there that just aren't very interesting. So I think firstly, there's channeling publicly and there's channeling for yourself. So let's just stay on channeling for yourself. Everyone can channel a voice of wisdom. So when I get my rooms or workshops of people to channel for themselves, I say, connect with your soul or your higher self. Don't worry about whether you're speaking to an Andromedan group from star system 36 or, you know, some people have like a real fixation on that and that gets in their way.

37:47Yeah. I'm like, that will either happen to you or it won't. Don't go hunting it. And I have to ask you, why do you think that constellation of stars is so important? Like, you know, I always say if I died and they said to me, oh, by the way, you know, you thought the Z's were your guides. It was actually the voice of God. And she's been talking to you your whole life. I go, okay. Yeah. I don't care. I don't really care about identity. I care about frequency. and the frequency that they have brought to my life and that I have then been able to share. It's invaluable to me and to the people who it works for.

38:21So everyone can channel their higher self or their soul. It's a little like sitting and doing journaling in the morning. Sit down and write soul, what do you want to tell me today? Or higher self, what do you want to tell me today? Or if you want to write Jesus, or if there is a certain focal point you want to have, go ahead, but everyone can access it. It's the same wise voice that we use for our friend when our friend is distressed. It might not be the voice we always apply to ourselves, but that's the breakthrough of channeling. You develop a voice inside you that goes against any other voices.

38:56So in my case, I was dealing with a lot of self-attack in my early twenties, still a lot of self-judgment in my head. And suddenly there was this voice from the left that was like, took a, I don't know if if my self attack voices was this massive house on fire in came the z's like with a huge water hose and just put it out and not only put it out they kind of brought calm and opening to me and i was like wow i've never i've never been able to quiet that voice myself yeah so the reason i share that piece is when you start channeling for yourself it does something to you it changes you It's this relationship of love and support toward yourself that you access through yourself that is quite fundamentally different to how a lot of us operate.

39:43So it takes time with channeling. You need to give it months or a year or two to kind of settle in and to get used to it and to give yourself breaks between it if it feels very activating. Mary Amhasna, who you know as well. I love her work and she's a teacher that I study too. And she's someone that's so sensitive. And I remember her teaching on channeling. She was talking about how when she teaches channeling, what she first teaches people to do is how to stop channeling. Because a lot of times people are channeling unconsciously other energies, other people's, you know, like other people's ideas, perceptions, like other people.

40:17And so a lot of the work is like figuring out how to just reset and reorient yourself and your energy so that you can feel what it feels like to almost be void or be in your own energy first. So you can tell the difference between other energies and frequencies, which I really love. I love that. And the other thing I think that people often need to be encouraged when they're channeling is not to obey their channel. Say more about that. People are very much looking for an answer outside themselves that they believe is more correct than the answer inside themselves. I know when I started spirituality and self-growth as a young 'un, you know, there was less out there.

40:54But also I think you're very susceptible when you first go into spirituality and self-growth of thinking, oh, well, I know nothing. and they know everything. And to some degree at the beginning, there is a learning curve and you are learning. The risk is that you give all the power to the teacher, the guru, or the person that's at the front of the room. And if you can do that in a healthy way, like, you know, we're all grateful for teachers in our life or friends or family members. Sure, have gratitude. That's lovely. But don't make them your spiritual power center because then you're still not connecting to your own spirituality.

41:31I think we've been, certainly a lot of religious training makes it blasphemous for you to not access God or spirit through the priest or whatever the denomination is. So we have that in the room. But I think many people need to, like, I do not do what the Z's tell me to do. And more importantly, they don't tell me to do things. They occasionally give me warnings in my life. Like they'll say, you know, you're leaving Colorado, moving to California, get ready. I really didn't like that warning, but they were right. And six months later, I was ready to leave Colorado and I saw why, but they don't tell me what to do.

42:09And I always say, if you have a guide that's telling you to obey them, stop listening to that guide. It's not about that. They're giving a spiritual perspective to you and it's for you to discern what you want to do and to help empower the more spiritual you on the planet, not that you're a human puppet for some spiritual guide. That is such a good one. Yeah. And love one, which is one of my favorite channel texts. It's speaks a lot about the voice. And if it dishonors your free will, then it's not the voice of something that's positive polarity. Any entity or being is going to respect and honor your free will.

42:42And that's what I've always known when it's that voice. I had a warning a few weeks ago, I was in relationship with someone and in my dream, I went to bed. I had just spent time with them. And my guide just sat me down at a table and just sat at the table. And they were like, you'll never know this man, he's hiding something. And this is as far as you're going to go. And it was just, I woke up in the morning and they were sitting by my bed. They're like, we have nothing more to say. Like we said, we said what we needed to say, but it wasn't ever, you need to break up. You need to do this thing.

43:12It's like, we just need you to know this information that you know when you're subconscious, but you're not doing something about. And in a lot of the work that I do with my clients, sometimes we'll be in like a circle with their team, like their guides, their angels, their light beings, fairies, whoever's there. And it is one of the things that I'll often bring in is like remembering that you're equal to, because I think we'll kind of sit and counsel and people will assume that these are just beings that they have to report to, or they are like better than them. But it's like, I think that was a huge part of my spiritual mastery path was coming into relationship with all the beings and entities and guides as an equal that has equal power rather than saying and believing that everything that was in the unseen had power over me.

43:52Cause that's like not true, especially in this dimension. They just don't. Beautiful. And the Z's say, you know, we're here to embody as much consciousness as possible. And that's what we're here to do. So So we're both, our job is to both personally elevate ourselves and go through our own healing. But as we heal anything that we're carrying from the wounds of humanity, we also change the frequency of it for the planet. So our job is to become as, whether you call it enlightened or spiritual or awakened as possible. but our humanity is not um the problem that i think people often say it is it is it is who we are and we were born onto this planet that is what it is and so yes you can seek the light you can seek more spirit but i think sometimes the pain of being on earth or the disconnection that you can feel in yourself you think the remedy is oh there's something else somewhere else that i need to get to but actually it's all supposed to integrate oh look at this beauty oh i love kitties that's why you got kitties at your house i said the kitties can come what you just shared is is so incredibly profound that there's the part of the spiritual experience where we think being the humanity is the problem and it's not and that is so incredible especially for the seeker so if part of our job here you know from the z's is to expand our consciousness and to be on our own spiritual path how do we do that in relationship to other people you know is it how much is about us discovering and deepening our spirituality and how do we be in relationship with the collective in a way that also is in service to them well if you're living your path the z's would say um you're in service to the collective and i think that can be very challenging for a lot of people especially overachievers when it comes to healers or spiritual people, you know, that in a way, spirituality or being a healer can become the next competition with the self or with others, you know, and so that has to kind of die down.

46:00And when you'll know you're on your path, because you won't be sitting at home, wondering why nothing's happening most of the time. That's a good one. You might have moments where you go, oh, am I doing the right thing? But they should be moments. They should not be happening half a day, seven days a week. That's when you know you're either moving from one version of your path to another and you haven't quite clicked the new in yet, or something's a bit stuck or a bit dead. You're reading my mind. Right. I knew you were reading me. Right, right, right. You're like, actually, I'm going to change this answer because I don't know what she's in right now.

46:35You're like, well, you're actually in between a process. You're not. I wasn't actually, but you busted yourself. Yeah. Okay. Sorry. Thank you for that kindness. By the way, the between is so important to talk about because I think at the moment we, um, we're in this very destabilizing time in the world while the outside world is destabilizing. Your focus is going to go there. Many of us will be working to help in different areas that we feel compelled to help. But even if you are avoiding the outside world, the energetic ripple ricochet is going to find you. And so a lot of us are being shunted fast into other relationships, other timelines.

47:14Back to your point, you know, you being aligned with as many people as you can be in your life is going to be really important. You might need to have 10 highly awake, aware, spiritual self-growth people in your immediate circle. You might happily have 10 others who, you never talk about those topics. That's not really, but they're in their heart. They're in their joy, which is really what spirituality is about. Did it get you back to a deeper connection with yourself? But the Zs have talked a lot lately about vibrational deselection. This is my first thing. I'm so glad we're talking about this.

47:50Vibrational deselection, which is where you and another person in your life deselect each other energetically. And it can play out one of three ways. Either you both kind of go, oh, well, we're no longer, okay. And you lovingly say goodbye. Or one or the other of you realizes or accepts it before the other one. Now, a friend of mine might decide I'm no longer resonant for her. And I might go into some pain about that. She might be right. It might take me two months to get there. But I might go into some abandonment stuff because maybe part of my relationship with her was there was some kind of familial energy and I'm replaying, you know, she was the repair of some familial abandonment.

48:36So the healing is always happening. But in vibrational deselections, what the Z's say is people will be removed from your chessboard and you will sometimes move people off your chessboard. And we go through all kinds of stuff in our head of like, oh, it's not fair. my friend really needs me. That's why I'm going to stay with this friend. No, don't stay with a friend because they need you unless it's an emergency and they're a long-term friend and you're the only person who can be there for them or one of a few key people who can be there for them. We often try and talk ourselves out of being very honest about what we're experiencing with someone.

49:13And so a lot of us, as we're clearing up our patterns, which is happening at speed for lots of us right now, we're having people moved. And, you know, I'll speak personally for a second. In the last two years, four key players in my life, key players were moved. I initiated the move with a couple of them and another person initiated the move on me. And it was such a shock when all of it was happening, even when I was the one knowing it had to happen. And a really dear friend of mine, who's also a bit of a mentor, he's in his early seventies. He said to me, well, Lee, he said, so much is changing in your life.

49:57And we know that at some point you're going to have a new partner come into your life. And when he arrives, you're going to need time and you don't know who he's bringing with you. And what's interesting is the Z's have always said to me that when you let go of a friendship and you miss it, you will get the upgrade 6, 12, 18, 24 months later. Pay attention because the upgrade will come back. You might be sitting there going, oh my God, I really miss my friend that I laughed with. And it was the only person I ever laughed like that with. And the Zs, if I was going pity party on that, the Zs would say to me, well, you're capable of laughing.

50:32So go and find someone else to laugh with. They wouldn't, they wouldn't let me sit too long in, oh my God, this must be wrong. They'd be like, no, it isn't wrong. Otherwise it wouldn't have happened. So you take the part of you that now you're recovered, you take that part of you that loves laughing and you're going to go and find someone else you can laugh with, who is also going to have a few other things that will align with you that the other friend didn't, that was starting to get heavy. So we get the upgrades of people and I've, boy, has that happened to me. Even just in the last six months, I've kind of gone, wow, this new friend I have, I would never have had space for them.

51:05But I had to go through the grieving and the loss and the, you know, the process of the loss. And in the process of the loss, it's a part of your identity that also gets to die off and reform because we create identities in ourself through the relationship we have with others. So as we're changing, relationships that you're in transform and some of them go away, get moved away, or you might go, oh, wow, I'm no longer clicking with this person. And I'm shocked. It's sad on an attachment level. But if I understand that life is a long journey and I can honor and love them as they go their way and I go my way, I'm going to be okay.

51:45Yeah.

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54:37I think I had three in the past, three of my key players. Three. Yeah. It was like trifecta. I was like, whoa, like this, it was, oh no. Yeah. It was three and it was, or maybe it was four, but it was almost like the legs of a table. You know, it was like the three, like everyone just like kicked out and I was like, whoa. And I think it's a really great point where each of these people was, was mirroring back an identity that I was no longer in, you know, pedestaling people, giving my power away, self erasure, codependency. And so when I was getting out of those patterns in my life, it just kind of left these relationships and I just couldn't wasn't a fit for the relationships at all.

55:17And these were people I deeply loved, like so, so much. And now to be like, who is that? You know, and now like with love and reverence to be like, oh, they absolutely cannot work in my new life, in my new space or anything like that. What do you see happening? And I guess, what do the Z see happening to with romantic relationships? Because I've been in my process, you've been in your process and I'll talk about personal stuff. But I think collectively, there's been so much happening with romantic relationships, like so many endings, so many beginnings, so many fast things going on, like, what are they seeing?

55:52Well, it's funny, I'll, I'll share personally, because it's funny, you bring this up. So after my marriage ended, I was single for about six, seven months. And a friend of mine who was visiting me asked me, he said, oh, what do you want in a relationship? And I said, he said, do you want a partner? And I went, no. I said, I'm not ready. I need time. I said, however, it would be lovely to have a companion, a lover, someone to experience and share with. So he was on an app and he said, oh, there's this guy I'm talking to. And I think he could be perfect for you. And this guy was advertising himself as 58.

56:30And we ended up meeting and it turned out he was 69. And I had a relationship with him for about a year. And if you'd have told me at 48, I would have been divorced and having a relationship with a 70 year old, I just wouldn't have believed, you know, because it doesn't make sense in the mind. Amazing guy, like vibrant as anything. And I was just beginning to go through some stuff. I think this can happen when you break up with someone because I've all my all my divorced or separated friends talk about it too especially when you're like late 40s you're like oh this is not my 20s or 30s anymore you know when you're so and I was just beginning to go through a little bit of stuff about wow I'm gonna be 50 soon and then I you know had this beautiful relationship with Jim and he redefined what energy at 70 looks like what health and fitness I mean it was incredible and I always I knew we wouldn't be each other's partners.

57:21So it was hard to let go after a year because we couldn't carry on because we, we just couldn't go to the next phase, but that blew my mind. And that that's never anything I would have anticipated for myself, but it was beautiful. And it changed something about, I've always liked much older people. I just didn't know, you know, I would get to experience something like that. So, so that was cool for me. Um, but it's like the paradigms are different. Like, I feel like it's, I felt like that too. I have, I had a type. I was like, this is my type. And then since I've been dating, I'm like, never thought that one, never saw that one.

57:57Did it? It's just like, I think when you, it's more of a frequency thing too, at some point, you're just like, our souls are going to do what they're going to do. And my human is just here to see what's up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, you guys, you guys have a bigger plan that I'm just witness to. Cause I would have never thought this or predicted this at all. Yeah. And I think soul connection is everything. So my brother was just with me and he's also single. he um so he's he's he's looking for a girlfriend at the right moment and he was saying what's your type and I went through all the people I'd and I wow I've got no time like I have gotten I was almost embarrassed oh should I have a type like no type whatsoever it's all about the per the connection the soul it's like so um yeah but but but back to the kind of broader question and what the Z's have said about relationships they said about six years ago we were doing a soul magic retreat.

58:47And there was a channel where they said, if you all lived more tribally and communally, you would care a lot less about your intimate partner. Now, to me, that doesn't mean that, and even they said this, well, it could, and a lot of people are exploring that, right? Although I still don't see many people mastering that without all kinds of emotional drama that I wouldn't want to be in. I'm like, no, no, no, the world is enough for me. I don't need to get into all that, even though I admire and respect the people who do. And I actually have a very good friend who it seems to ish work for her. Um, so anyway, um, the Z's talked about, it's very important to have a focal relationship and it can, a lot of learning and release and healing can come through it.

59:34But I think we've all been sold this romance dream and also this, oh, it's terrible if a relationship ends. And I'm like, is it? No, it's actually that someone had an experience. I mean, I understand if there's kids involved and there's other people who get hurt, but I think the spiritual way of looking at relationships is you come together with a person for, as they say, is it a season or a lifetime or a, you know, and the Z's once said some of your most powerful loves in your love line can be someone you spend three days with. not necessarily always the person you spend 50 years with. And we tend to put all the value on that.

1:00:14So I think we're all trying to find ourselves. I think the risk for those of us who, I know for me, I spent a lot of time modifying to other partners, which I think a lot of us do. So I'd go, oh, I really like this person. Oh, I'd like to be with them. Oh, okay. I can just adjust here. I can just, so, you know, that, that's still a journey that's ongoing for me, like kind of looking at when am I with a person where I don't have to modify and I think we all do it in relationship but there's something about so I I struggle with that too you know what's interesting as I was thinking about I was talking to another friend that's super powerful very spiritual successful and they were just talking about a relationship that's ending and how they were just modifying the whole time and I'm like it's so funny because powerful spiritual like the love relationship still just kind of gets us all like a hundred percent and it's key learning it's a key like for me it's a key learning area and i've loved many people i've lived with about five different partners over the years yeah i'd like to i'd like to take that down a notch if in the next 2030 yeah yeah i'm not yeah unless you get older you're like i'm like i have a partner now or a boyfriend now and he was over and i'm like i want you to live on the first floor I'm like, I don't even want, I was like, I don't even, I was like, we could have our separate floors.

1:01:35Like, you just want your space. Yeah. No, it's, it's cool. I've actually, I've been single now for 10 months. How's it feel? Oh, it's great. But it took, it took a period to get there. It took a period of like, oh, I really like this. But to your original question, the Z's, they have talked about romantic relationships becoming more intrinsic to friendships. And And I see that in the culture. I see that we're beginning to acknowledge friendship, love, and all kinds of love. At the end of the day, someone who's looking out for you, looking out with you, and that you are looking out for, that's an incredible relationship.

1:02:15So I think there's a pain in our culture around romantic relationship. And I feel for the people who go, I don't want to be in a partnership. And that's the question they're always asked. I think that's such a beautiful thing. And I actually agree with that sentiment because we talk about friendships a lot. At Almost 30, we wrote a lot about it in the book. I think that has supported me so much in sort of raising my friendship importance and love.

1:02:42just contextually in my mind, seeing them as important as my romantic relationships has taken so much of the pressure off of my romantic relationships. and then helped me feel so much more fulfilled in my life and so much more at peace. Because I remember, you know, I think we were sold that I was the Disney kid generation. We were the Disney princess generation that was sold that your person has to be your everything. And this is what you live for is finding this person to be your best friend, to be your lover, to be all these things. And then when you get older, you sort of realize how amazing and magical it is to have different deep relationships that bring out different textures of you and different aspects of you.

1:03:19And so I'm so relieved to hear that. And I think it's such a relief for so many people. And I'm curious of how all the energy ends up landing, you know, with that, because I do feel like, you know, it is like the thing with polyamory where I'm like, oh, on the surface, I'm like, that makes sense. Yeah. You know, but then you're like, love is love. Like, and then you're kind of like, wait, what? For me with polyamory, for me personally, why I'm not very interested in it is because of the wounds. Exactly. And because I know how emotions go. I know how attachment goes. I know how activating we each are to each other.

1:03:54And I'm like, yeah, I don't want that much therapy in my week. Thank you. I've done a lot. However, I also see that for some people it is their spiritual path and it is their learning. So I'm like, good for you. Go for it. The Z's did say we would see more polyamory, but they did say that monogamy in that form is not going to go away. They don't see that going away in a hurry. And And they see that being a path that many will choose. If you think about it, it's like introvert and extrovert. The extrovert wants to meet everybody at the party. The introvert wants to meet one or two or three and be.

1:04:27So, you know, we're all slightly different types too. I don't think there is a better way. I think it's personal choice. And I think this is where spirituality gets into trouble. And there are spiritual teachers out there, I've noticed, who are speaking about their own spiritual journey like it's spiritual truth. And I'm like, no, that's not a spiritual fact. That's a truth for you and people who are wired your way, which is why to the best of my ability, I always try and stay completely open. There isn't a spiritual truth. There are many spiritual truths that we're all experiencing and living through.

1:05:01And we have to honor room for all. It's like, you can't say, this is how you overcome anxiety. If someone said, how would you help people overcome anxiety? I'm like, bring me the person. Let me ask them five questions. Let me feel their energy. Let me see where they're at. Let me see what they're capable of. Then I'll start working with them. But it's going to be one of 15 different things, depending on who they are, where they are and what they need. That's why I've loved coaching one-on-one, you know, so in my career, it was like, go really big with almost 30 serving a lot of people and then membership and all of that.

1:05:33And now I'm like, I love one-on-one because I can actually help you. Like I can get to the, like, what is your anxiety? I can actually get to that point where sometimes I felt like that with broader audiences. It's like, I know there's a part of me that knows that this is not gonna apply to everyone. And then it's kind of like, you know, kind of maybe self-censors or stops myself. So being able to like read someone's energy and really be in with someone has been such a pleasure. Yeah, and the self-censorship is smart because I think you have to be a little careful to adjust your focus when you're out there speaking to millions of people on a video versus working with a group of 300.

1:06:12It's two completely different animals. Yeah. Two completely different animals. How do you, that's a great question for people that want to do YouTube or want to be teachers in public. How do you sort of change your lens about that? Because you're talking to a really large global audience on your YouTube. Like what's your thought process around that? Yeah, I guess I was trained through one-on-ones. So, you know, for me, even going back into Soul Magic, which we just ran in La Jolla last week, it's very comfortable for me to work one-on-one with a person because I did four and a half thousand sessions over a 15 year period.

1:06:42So I'm very used to the one-on-one and what I learned to do was transpose it to a group. So I have noticed some people are brilliant group speakers and they're not necessarily as a debt one-on-one and they don't need to be. Not everyone needs to do both. But I would say, I think if you're going out there, I think the most important, I think, blind spot that I see happening a lot is people forgetting how everyone is different. So, you know, you'll see people do a video and they'll say, well, trauma is because of this and this and this. And I'm watching, if I watch the video, I'm like, it could also be eight more things depending on.

1:07:21So you've got, I think, I think your biggest responsibility is not to try and be an authority expert on everyone. Even if you're reaching multi-millions of people, you're still not an authority expert on everyone. So I think we have a responsibility to help people remember that they need to learn about themselves and who they are and apply things based on who they are rather than here is my spiritual rule and you apply it and you'll be fine. I'll tell you what one of my bugbears is. And there are major teachers out there that I respect and I think they're doing really good work. But I'll see people do videos where they'll go, when your alarm clock goes off, wake up immediately.

1:08:02And I'm like, no, I'm not going to. I am going to hit snooze. Because for me, that 20 to 30 minutes when I wake up in the morning, I've been very productive for 21 years and I have endurance. But it's interesting to me when I see these videos telling people what to do and I'm like, huh. Now for someone who's already feeling anxious and like they're underperforming, that's just going to put them into anxiety. I'm just not a fan of one rule fits all. I don't believe it. I don't buy it. It's not true. Yeah. Even my energy updates, you know, I try and say at the beginning, these videos are for whoever resonates with me.

1:08:38There will be people out there who go, Oh God, I can't stand him. And I've seen some of it. It doesn't bother me. I don't take it personally. Um, there will be people out there. I resonate with, there will be people out there. I don't. And the people who resonate with me, they won't believe or resonate with everything I say. And that's not my job. My job is to just keep doing what I do and know that people will pick things off. And I do it because if the things they're picking off work for them, great. When I see those kinds of videos, I'm like, ah, old paradigm.

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1:12:14That's cachava, K-A-C-H-A-V-A.com. The code is almost 30. Because I know I'm always like energetics because I'm like the energetics of that. What if you literally hate yourself and you want more reasons to hate yourself? So you're going to have the alarm set. So you hit snooze. You continue to hate yourself. Like, yeah, nothing is ever just like that. You've nailed it. Sadly, a lot of people who want to be told what to do still will go for those videos. It's why some of them are very popular. Like someone once said to me, oh, I want to be one of the most mainstream spiritual teachers there is.

1:12:49And I said, great. I said, so you're comfortable working at the middle level. And then what do you mean? And I said, well, to be in the mainstream as a spiritual teacher right now means you're really hitting the middle. Not saying you're not brilliant at what you do. And I'm not saying that isn't its own kind of skill. The reason I threw this at them, we were in a one-on-one session. I knew they had this real, I want to do the highest possible work. And so I could see the conflict. There was a conflict between I want to be really popular and I want to do some of the most cutting edge work. And I was like, well, the cutting edge work isn't necessarily happening in the mainstream.

1:13:22It usually births 10, 15, 20 years before with a small number. And then it hits the mainstream and there will be an ambassador whose job it is to go out and be the mainstream figure and they're built for it. It's what they're here for. So be careful how competitive you get with your ideas about success and popularity versus quality. They're different animals and they shouldn't be put in the same category. So yeah, that's just something I've always observed. Yeah, a lot of times if people are kind of creating the lane, they feel lonely and they feel like they're doing something wrong, but it's like just creating the lane and you're early on in the process.

1:13:57And then it catches in later. You know, a lot of the teachers that have been around for a long time have been talking about the same stuff. Have you seen that video on YouTube, everything is a remix. Oh, I would love. Oh my God. It's going, everything is a remix on YouTube. It's perfect. It just shows you, yeah, we're all just evolving and refining what went before. That's what we get to do while we're alive and then we die. And then someone else picks up the baton and carries on. Yeah. So your energy updates this year have been just so helpful. I think so many people, and we're going through such a time of transformation, especially with AI and chat GPT stuff.

1:14:35We can answer related to that, but I would just like to kind of expand upon that a little bit because so many women in our audience are going through such transformational times internally, so much is happening in their life. So what are some of the themes of the channelings from this year that you found to be really relevant? Well, the one thing that they've been talking about, which is obvious and it's evident is they said we're going through a people revolution. So basically you're going to see people saying no to things that are being put upon them or oppression that is being put upon them that will rise as higher consciousness rises because it's trying to control things.

1:15:14It's trying to take things backwards. That people revolution will both happen in people's reactions to what's going on in the outer world, but it's also they're going through inner revolutions. So people are going through like revolutions with their own personality, their own career path, their own relationships. So personal revolution is a big one. They have also talked about the importance of, and I've talked about this for years, the importance of taking care of yourself in these times. If your nervous system is highly activated and you are sitting online typing a load to stuff, just stop, just step back.

1:15:53You know, you can, yes, there are things on the planet that are very alarming and heartbreaking and emergencies and all of that, but you have to know when you are capable of being a frontline responder and when someone else is going to be the frontline responder because you're recovering from the last three things. And that is its own form of energy mastery that we need to get very clear about. And then the other thing that they've talked about is on a positive side, because people are becoming more free of the shackles of the old world in themselves, in the systems, people are beginning to have very powerful, energetic, emotional, intuitive experiences that they didn't previously have, and also finding more aligned people.

1:16:35So those are three of the things that hit me immediately. But one of the biggest things I'm most aware of as we go through this is the undeniable effect of everything going on in the world and how it relays into you as a human being and a person. Even if you're someone who says, I avoid watching the news, I avoid, you are still going to be feeling it. It's going to be hitting you because it's worldwide. And what we're dealing with is a lot of panic and fear. And what we're looking for is a rise of love. And we see that in every emergency. I mean, we see it here when we have major fires, people rally around, people look out for each other.

1:17:15What's shown on the news tends to be sensationalist, dramatic, fear driving. What those of us who've ever been in an emergency area can attest to is all of the transformational acts between humans. So one of the things that came up as a theme for this year is what will we allow as a people? So what will we allow as a people? That's a global conversation right now, but also what will you allow as a person and what will you change. Is there a perception so within the collective and sort of what's been happening in the past couple years you know in some camps there's the perception that things are only getting better that people are only getting more healthy and I don't you know people are living longer that like people are safer but then there's some that are like it's all getting worse.

1:18:03Do you have a perception about like if it's getting better or worse or what how do you see these times? I think it really depends on who you are and what you're looking at. There are people right now who may be watching this who's sitting in their rooms so depressed and they're deflated about life, the world and their own life. Usually those things go in tandem. You know, you're not usually completely depressed about the world. If there's something in your life that you care about, that you're serving a purpose, that you're helping raise a grandchild, you're writing a book you think matters or, you know, we usually need something to connect to in life.

1:18:37And when we get very disconnected and we look at the world, we tend to only see the disconnections. So this is where we have to be mindful of our own vibration. By all means, we all go through dark nights of the soul where we need to just recover and step back. But the question is, when is it your job to kind of bring yourself back out and put yourself into the world? But back to your question, I think it's relative. I think it depends who you ask, how they're living, where they're living, what their level of privilege or safety is versus someone else's. The one thing I will say, and the Z's bring this up a lot, they've said things could have been a lot worse than they are right now, 20 years ago.

1:19:17And that higher consciousness has been holding us away from bigger catastrophes, bigger destruction. They also said, when you go back through your history, and you go back a few hundred years, there are so many things that we benefit from now that we didn't have. And for example, they use modern medicine as an example. I don't know about you. Last year I had to have a dental, have a wisdom tooth removed. And I was in agony from this dental infection I had for like two, three weeks. And I thought, wow, if this had happened to me in the 17th century, you know, how would I, I would have just been in pain and probably gone off and died.

1:19:56So, you know, I think there is something to the perspective. I think honestly that the biggest problem that we can run into is when we lose our faith in the world, in humanity and in the path. I've never yet lost my faith in the goodness in this world, but I'm very clear about the darkness. And that was actually a game changing moment for me about nine years ago when I was questioning stopping doing this work. It was the last time I was questioning stopping doing this work because I was thinking, what's the point? And at the end of that year, I recommitted to this work in an even bigger way because the Z's also really got me straight about some things.

1:20:42And they went, yeah, there's a lot of darkness on this planet, Lee. And you knew that before you came here. And so did all of you. You are not here for the darkness. You are not here to pour more oil and fuel on the darkness. That's not your job. That's not what you came here for. And it was like a growing up moment for me. And it was like, oh, the part of me that has been upset or bothered or, and it doesn't mean I don't see horrific things now and your heart breaks or you, I still have a reaction to those things, but fundamentally I'm no longer on the floor going, oh my God, what is this planet?

1:21:18This planet is what it is. And we are going to die. You and I might be dead tomorrow. We might be dead in 50, 60 years. That's up to the mystery. We're not supposed to know when we're going to die unless you get a terminal diagnosis. And unlike in Anita Mojani, for example, who I was just with, you know, you don't come back with a miracle healing. So I think we have to be here for the light. We have to be here for higher consciousness. And if like many healers, you get burned out or you get sick of trying to like uplift or take a break, take a break and step back. Someone else will pick up the baton while you're having a little rest and watching too much Netflix or whatever it is that you need to do to regulate your nervous system.

1:22:02I've heard that television is ordered regulation. I heard Sia the singer talk about that. Yeah. She was, I love her. I've loved her for 20 years, even before she got mega famous and she was talking about her recovery because she got sober. And she said to Zane, she watches way too much television, but she said her therapist said that's ordered regulation, disordered regulation for her would have been drugs or alcohol. So, you know, I also, I once had someone say to me, Oh God, I think I watched too many shows. And I said, yeah, but you're volunteering at the homeless shelter. You're helping everyone.

1:22:37If that's how you switch off. yeah can we be okay with that yeah and if you're really bothered about it let's do some deep digging but it's just this the part of you that thinks you have to be always productive yes we're human in human bodies and we need rest no matter how much spiritual energy is running through us yes you mentioned something about the because i wanted to talk about this too the last channeling of disease the new audiobook oh yes yes of the near-death experience yes so um we just this month released an audio book and a Kindle version of Conversation with Disease book three. It's called Demystifying the Journey of Life Before and After Death.

1:23:15I did this in collaboration with Diana Edwards, who's a psychotherapist and an author. We did three together, and this is the third and final one. And in it, much like in Conversations with Disease books one and two, Diana asked Disease all kinds of questions, but very much on the topics of reincarnation. why do we come to earth what's our job here so there are lots of great nuggets in the audio and when you hear the audio it's not a narrated audiobook none of mine are they're all the channeled conversations as they were happening same with the future human that I did with Regina Meredith earlier this year so you also get the frequency of the conversation from listening but perhaps my favorite conversation in that book Diana had a very dear friend called Kelly who I had met because she'd come to one of my workshops years earlier and she was terminally diagnosed about eight years before she died it was eight or nine so she went through all of these different operations with her illness and kept coming back and you wondered how she was still alive honestly but she had this incredible spirit um and Diana suggested that Kelly have a conversation with the Z's for the book and Kelly loved the idea.

1:24:30So it's about, it's the final chapter of the book. You get to hear a person who knows they're soon to die talking to a spirit guide about the purpose of their life, their death, what's going to happen after, why have they been going through this for nine years? I mean, it's, it's quite, um, um it's the only I don't remember finishing a channel and crying very often but that one I came off and just and it was incredible and and what was sweet about it was she did die almost a year after the conversation took place because this was two years ago now and uh she said that it gave her so much peace for the first time in all those years to have that conversation they talk about her mission in life they talk about the timing of her death I mean it's it's it's yes it's unlike anything I had ever been privy to even though the Z's have spoken directly to lots of people in workshops or the portal or this was something else so I think for anyone who's interested in the journey of life or death for me it reaffirmed the beauty and the mystery and the weirdness of it all it's like wow I mean you and I right now sat here how how great is that I know.

1:25:44We don't know what tomorrow is going to bring. So, you know, I've always had that philosophy because the Z's have instilled it in me to be grateful for every day because you never know when something's going to change. And I think that conversation with Kelly and a lot of the material in the book really redefined my relationship to life. So even though the book focuses on reincarnation, death, karma, it actually makes you feel more alive. Hmm. What was, what was surprising that you found about death? Like, is it what they say where it's just a transition state or a portal? Like what were some of the surprising things that came through?

1:26:19My own personal experience as a human, I've been there about 30 minutes after a child was born and I've been there 30 minutes after someone died. And in both cases, the same window opened in the room. I was like, wow, like there is a window to the other world that opens that we enter through and from. And in the case of the man who I was with who passed, there were a group of about 15 of us with him. Um, and he died in the water and we managed to, well, his body was already on the beach when I arrived. And so everything was happening to him. Um, Reiki CPR, um, there were a few trained CPR people there.

1:27:01So they were doing that, there were a bunch of us doing Reiki. There was a group who kind of were around him holding hands. And it was a very, very intense experience. We were running a retreat in Costa Rica and everyone had the morning off. And this man was the husband of a woman who'd come to some of my events before. And during the morning off, they were in the ocean and he had a heart attack and died. Now, the weirdest thing is this man had looked at me with such love in his eyes three hours earlier at breakfast and just said, I'm just having the best time. And he died in the ocean, which was his happy place with his beloved.

1:27:40But you can imagine as a retreat leader in the middle of this, I mean, it's like your worst nightmare. Because, you know, I used to go and take these people on retreats and hike and I would think, God, I hope no one breaks their ankle. I didn't even imagine or fathom that we could be in the middle of a retreat process and this could happen. So I'm at a certain point, I thought, why am I doing Reiki? I can talk to him. I suddenly remembered. So I talked to him and he's like this orange aura. And all he will say to me when I'm saying, come back, come back to your body. We're wanting you back. And he's like, I'm so happy.

1:28:15It's incredible here. And he won't have it. And then I try bargaining. Then I try being angry and kind of, you get back down, you know, your wife is here. Yeah, it's kind of like, you know, you've got a wife. Still, same level of peace, same level of happiness. It's beautiful. I'm so happy here. And at a certain point, you're, because I mean, he'd been at this point, you know, he must've been dead for 45 minutes. The CPR hadn't worked. I was convinced we were going to bring him back until I spoke to him. And the minute I spoke to him, I was like, oh God, he's he's really gone. And his wife was unbelievable.

1:28:51Like I walked up to her. I was the last one with his body on the beach when they took him away. And then I walked straight to her and, um, you know, I'm thinking, okay, we've got to have to send everyone home. And, you know, we're three days into it. And she looked at me and she said, you'll never forget this retreat. She said, you're welcome. And then she said, we're carrying on. And I just couldn't believe what was coming out of her mouth. You know, and you think, well, she's in shock. She was a spiritual, like she was a very strong woman, very strong. And she was determined that we were going to carry on.

1:29:20So he, of course, was with us the next four days. It was the most extraordinary retreat. This was 2019. It changed everything for me. But my God, people who pass over are so happy. But that doesn't mean we're supposed to go, you know, that's the, even Anita, who I was with at Soul Magic, Anita came as a guest, Anita Morjani, who many people know from her near-death experience. you know she said the other side was just blissful but her dad told her you need to go back and she came back and she doesn't regret being here even though she knows how blissful the release of death is wow yeah like taking off a tight shoe yeah wow and so how could people what what were some ways in which just to kind of wrap that what would be some ways in which people can rethink about death or even rethink about living based on some of what you came across?

1:30:15Well, the first thing I will say, and this is as someone who, you know, at the age of 16, I knew I had, 16, 17, I knew I had a lot of my own trauma that I had to deal with. And so I went to self-growth and I went to spirituality and I started avidly working on it. We can all change our patterns. We can all change our life. and even people who right now are watching going oh god but how do i change my life i'm the bread winner for my three kids i'm a single parent i'm so exhausted i'm so stuck within that there will be something that you can do that can help bring back your life force you're not just here to be a slave you're not just here to be responsible for everybody it shouldn't all be drudgery so any of us can create more life in our life and in fact we live on a planet that unless you're in a very particular culture or a very particular area of the world, you know, we're put into this hamster wheel and we're told, oh, be in the hamster wheel 50 weeks a year, take two weeks holiday.

1:31:19You'll get married. You'll go and live in a house. You'll take out a mortgage. I mean, there are so many other ways to live and the system is not necessarily telling us the truth. So I think you have to investigate for yourself what parts of the system am I aligned with? how do I want to live my life in the system what can I do to educate myself what can I do to change my patterns so I think if you're feeling dead in your life something's wrong something's wrong the Z's always say if you're still alive on earth ask yourself why you're still here for a reason if you were meant to be dead you would be taken off the planet like that they say it's very easy for your soul and you to have a conversation and you just get taken off so they say if you're still alive on earth, but you're angry you're alive on earth.

1:32:07You need to work through what, be as angry as you like for as long as you like, get it out your system. You need to do that. You can't avoid it. But there's a reason you're still here and find it. Find the spark of life that lights you up. And once you find that one spark, it will be enough to help you breathe. And then you'll find more sparks. The sparks continue. And then you can, you can really change your life. I have seen people change their existing life without having to get rid of anyone or I've seen people just become happier in their marriages, in their families, in their jobs because of the inner change they did.

1:32:45That is so powerful. I love the spark analogy. I love that so much. Fuji never comes into interviews. This is very special. I'm very grateful I got to see a cat today. I know, Oh, I know. You're just going to let them in. Okay. So tell us where we can find the book and then what you have going on right now. Right. So Conversation with Disease Book 3 is on Audible and it's also on Kindle. So it's wherever you can get an audio book or a digital book. And then we have a series of books. Most of the rest of them are in paperback as well. So they're all available. I have a workshop. My last live workshop of the year will be in London in September.

1:33:27I wanted to do something not just for the Brits, but for the Europeans who often can't travel over here. So we're doing a two day workshop called Energy Mastery, which will be great. And we still have some space available for that. And yeah, my next things will be next level healer coaching, which we're starting in September. Myself and my brother are going to be coaching a smaller group who have taken the next level healer course for six months through what they're doing. And yeah, as usual, I'll carry on doing my energy updates online and everything. So you can find me at leeharrisenergy.com.

1:34:00Yeah, best energy updates. Becca, John's girlfriend is the biggest fan. She almost came today from San Diego. Well, then we'll have to do a little video or something. Of course, of course. She's just like so and our audience absolutely loves you. Thank you so much. And I wanted to say just as a last, you did a channeled reading for us in the season, like everything you said was just so spot on came true so real so cool like it is like we've done so much it was it's definitely my favorite one of my favorite things we've ever done that's so cool that's cool thank you thank you delighted to be here always delighted to see you i'm sorry lindsey couldn't be here but it's lovely to be with you i know we got time okay guys i'll see you soon i love you bye thank you so much lee again that's lee harris with almost 30 podcasts my name is krista Williams.

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