811. From Secret Lives to Real Life: Mayci Neeley on Abuse, Healing + Finding Herself Again

27:47Yeah. And I'm going to be looked at like I did something wrong. Yeah. Was that the feeling? Yeah, I think so. But it's like it does always feel like an expectation too just because it's like that is just all I knew. Of course. This is kind of like they're kind of like, well, this is the route you typically take, you know, like, you know, I think we're just kind of going with the motions, you know. I assume if my parents knew how poorly that would have went for me that they wouldn't have had me do that. Right. You know? But yeah, I think it's just like we are just learning from our experiences.

28:19Yeah. You know? Yeah. And it's hard to navigate something that you've never been through. Like I always say that TikTok where it's like, remember, like this is your parents' first time living too. Like living life and they're experiencing things for the first time. So true. And like I think we're all just, you know, trying our best to be happy. Yes. And like make life the best we can. Yeah, totally. I think so much of adulthood is, yeah, you're continuing to do your own healing. But then you're also like looking at your parents and when they were this age and what they were doing and the decision, you know, and just having like a lot more.

28:54It's getting to the point where you have a lot more compassion for them and forgiveness and just like, oh, wow, you're humans too. It's actually crazy too. Even just like parenting. I'm like, oh, my parents did back then. I'm like, you're so annoying. and then like I do the same thing now and I'm like give me an example just like my mom does this too like where she'll kind of like scare she like scared us a lot growing up so that we wouldn't get into trouble or like do things that like maybe she was afraid of happening to us so it's like or like don't go over there as like a scary guy over there like be careful like you know there's not right to kind of scare you to like not like run away from her so she doesn't like lose you uh huh I started doing that when I had my son and I was like no I was like I hate that I do this but also it's like it works It works.

29:36I was like, I just want to keep you safe. So how do I do that? Because you won't listen to me. I'm like, don't run into the street. Okay, hit by a car. It's like, great. I'm going to do it then. That's like what my kids do. I'm like, great. Cars? Let's walk right into them. You know, it's like, oh, this is scary. It's scary. You're right over there. Be careful. I mean, yeah. You kind of realize those crazy moments where you looked at your parents when you were younger and you're like, why are you being psyched or overreacting? And I do the same thing. The other, I guess, example I have is like, and it drives me nuts that I do this.

30:04but it's like I'm always like when I was your age and I'm like oh that's what we had growing up when I was your age we didn't have social media we didn't have tvs or something you know and like now if my kids I'm like say the same thing like when I was your age I had to be bored I had coloring books I didn't have a phone where I could watch youtube on it it's like you're not getting it you know I just saw a reel today about millennials and just how like you know we have the experience of growing up with like no social media yeah and we're kind of like that bridge you know we've like dipped our toes in the old world and now we're in the new world whatever and it was like very nostalgic and you know you would like after school you go out to play until like the sun started to come down a little bit you come home turn on you're just to come home like you'd have to knock on your friend's doors to see if they're home yeah or call like the landline the landline baby oh my gosh those are the good old days those are those good old days The childhood was fun.

30:57Tell me, so you have a 10-year-old. You have a 10-year-old. You are a public figure. You're on reality TV. How are you navigating motherhood where so many eyes are on you? You know, I can imagine like your son is like aware of what's happening. Like how are you navigating that? You know, it's like I'm just trying to do the best I can and figure it out. It's like me and my husband try to figure out how to navigate this best because this is new for us. How do we do all of this? And so like our kids, we have taken them offline like for the most part. It's like every once in a while I want to post like a family photo.

31:40Like maybe I'll show their faces and stuff. But like for the most part, I've been in the last year and a half been more private about like what I'm sharing with like my kids and things like that. And then my son, like, knows that, like, it's funny. It's funny and hard because he, like, wants to be on the show sometimes. He sees him filming and he, like, tries to come and, like, walk in. Like, we're filming with my cousin. And, like, both my kids, like, they see the cameras out there and they're kind of, like, going in the middle of them. So it's kind of, like, it's hard to navigate, too, because I don't want to be like, get off, get off.

32:07You know what I mean? Because I don't want to feel weird and, like, it's, like, the secret thing or anything either. So it's kind of tricky. But my son knows about the show and stuff like that. So I do tell them. Like, don't, like, tell people at school. like just don't tell them about it like let's just keep this like private like want to keep it private because you know he likes to brag as a kid and big my mom's famous she's on a show I'm like don't say that like I'm not famous so don't like go saying that to people like so it's yeah it's kind of funny but like he obviously like thinks it's cool you know but it's like normal for them now it's not like it's anything like weird like they know the film crew comes like they know a lot of the crew like the producers and things like that and they like play with my kids and stuff.

32:45And then like, it's honestly, it's having them around like production sometimes feels like a second family. Like you start to like interact too. Like you're like, I'm not doing that. Like you start like having, it's almost like sibling relationships with like people you work with. Honestly, it's like, Hey, it's honestly great. Like you kind of miss them when they're not around sometimes. Totally. Yeah. That's so sweet. How are you navigating social media with his age? I'm curious for myself. Oh, like as far as like what I'm going to do when he gets older. Um, well right now it's like no social media.

33:12Sometimes he like will go on YouTube, but like does he have a phone no okay no and he won't get one until he's older love that and then even then i was like in my head i'm like i don't like me my husband like i don't think we want him to have social media until he's like 18 like out of the house just because it's different now than it was back then like if there's so many bad things on there like i get like weird dms all the time of like sex workers too who are like in the dms like watch this live like click this link And I'm like, and they spam everyone with those. And I just want to make sure I'm protecting him.

33:44But like in my head, the only thing I worry about too is like if you take it away and you're like, you're not allowed to have it until you're 18, are they going to sneak it anyways? But I'd rather him have it, but maybe we have parent access to it to where we can see what's going on versus, you know, him sneaking it behind my back. I know. So it's like I can't decide what I'm going to do. I think no matter what, if I did let him have it early and like had control, it would probably be like 16. Yeah. Yeah. Is what I'm thinking. I know. I feel like it's harder for girls though. Because like with girls with social media, people are mean and they're bullies.

34:16And I think girls sometimes take that more seriously. Especially when like people are commenting on like body image and like the way they look. And like I feel like it's harder for women. Yes. So I think with my daughters, I might be even more cautious than my sons. Like it's hard to say like. But definitely when they're older. Like they can't have it young. If they get a phone, I might get one of those like gab phones where they can only like call their parents and stuff.

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37:37I'm wondering how to have the conversation in our home where like they get that being on your phone all the time and on social media all the time not only rotting your brain but also it's like not cool and it doesn't make you happy yeah how yeah exactly like get outside like how how do I I guess you model it you know and you create experiences for them so that like you know their actual life feels just that much more like yeah exciting and just something they want to engage with and I yeah that's the thing too it's just with it we were raised like it's like I want my kids to go outside like touch some grass like go outside and play with friends in the street like don't be even video games I'm very I know I don't say I'm very strict on but like I there's a certain allotment of time like if you get to play it during the day like it's only a certain amount of time like it's not i guess i just want them to go outside and be like normal kids and not be like on screens all day you know same so there's certain friends that he likes to play with and i'm like i don't think you can't go put their house i know you're gonna go over there and just play video games and you're not allowed to do that i know it's like it's hard to because if you don't get it from your house they're gonna get it somewhere else that's the thing it's really the friend with the most access is like what your child's access is probably going to be that's what's hard unless you're like you can't go over there you getting out with them.

38:55And then it's like, you don't want to be that parent who's so strict, you know? And it's like, cause I had friends with parents like that too. And it was just kind of like, I know. I'm not like, well, your parents are weird. You know, like something like that. I'm not like, I care about looking weird. I just, I don't want my kid to feel, oh, like embarrassed. Like othered or like, yes. Yeah. You know, it's like, it's so hard to navigate. Like, I think I'm just going to kind of play it by ear because I don't know. I just don't know. How has your relationship with social media changed over the years after, you know, having the success and you are famous um that you've had I know I know the feeling though where it's like I hate that you're just doing your life and yeah it's like sometimes like being called an influencer in the past yeah I was like oh like because it has like a negative yeah like you know thing to it but as far as like navigating it I don't know because I just feel like nothing's changed to an extent um but obviously it's like different like going out like being more aware like if like that's the biggest thing that's changed for us like as a family to being like you have less privacy and I am someone that loves privacy I will say that um so that like definitely has been something new with me with like social media trying to navigate that um and then again like I'm more selective with what I do share now online like what do I want to share I don't have to share everything like I do share so much in the books like if I do decide to keep something private like it's definitely for a reason um but yeah I'm kind of figuring out as I go like I think it's just interesting just like in the last year living a more normal life now it's like obviously different and like it's very exciting and all the opportunities but it's even funny doing the book tour and people coming up being like oh my gosh I'm so nervous I'm so excited like for what like I like don't get it like it's like in my head I'm like we are the same like there's no difference between me and you you know it's just like yeah it's just it's interesting so sometimes I don't get it like the newfound like I guess fame if you want to call that like is just it is different for me to navigate I'm like I'm still bringing it out and my husband like is so sweet but he's also like hey like you don't need to have like 10 minute conversations with everyone you meet on the street like you can he's like make it short and sweet like move on and I'm like I'm so sorry Krista and I always joke because it's different but like if people like our listeners we meet them they usually like need to go they're like we gotta go sorry.

41:12Like we're the ones like talking. And how just your, your relationship with your husband, I guess, you know, with, with the experience you talk about in the book with your past relationships, because I know you're not unique in this sense where, you know, people are bringing their stuff into their relationships. And so I guess do you have practices or just ways in which you stay connected to your husband and just supporting of each other's continued healing? Because it's like you don't heal everything and then get married. It's like it continues with your person. Oh, yeah, for sure. I think he is very supportive in the sense that he's like, hey, like, do you need to go back to therapy?

42:06Like, are you like, like, let's get you back in. And like if you're having struggles, like even when I started writing the book, like officially, officially, he was like, hey, like maybe we should think you should go back to therapy to help you through this because it's like obviously can be really hard and traumatic. And like he knows like those days where I have long days from the show or maybe it's like I was writing the book and it was like a sad area of the book that I'm writing. He was like, let's like allows me to take some space. Like, why don't you go relax? I'll put the kids to bed. Like he's very good at like protecting my peace, I would say.

42:37And so I feel like we try to hold time for each other and, like, check-ins. And, like, as far as, like, our relationship, too, like, when we're filming, at least last season. Right now we have no time. But, like, last season he was very good at, like, he would schedule dates and stuff for us. Like, every week being like, okay, like, I scheduled the babysitter to come so we can, like, go on a date, you know. Like, so we have time together. Because it is hard, like, with the lifestyle now. Like, trying to find time to, like, have quality time with your partner. Like, I'm exhausted by the end of the night.

43:06especially being a parent and stuff. So it's hard to have those moments together where you're like really connecting. Especially with how much like work we have going on. Because I lay in bed and like I just start working on my phone, you know. And so I'm definitely trying to learn how to balance it. But I think for us it's worked in the past is like, hey, let's like schedule time for each other, like quality time. And then we both have agreed to do this, which we haven't done it yet, but we need to just put our phones away at night. Because a lot of times I just start working. I'm like, well, I need to post this or I need to do this, you know.

43:34And so I think like what I want to do, which I want to be type A, but I'm not there. Like I think I'm in between A and B. I'm between. I'm a total B. Yeah. I want to be an A though. I'm a Virgo though. So I have that in me, but like in, I think it's in other ways. What's your sign? I'm a Pisces. Cool. So I don't know what that means as far as organization. Maybe it's B. Okay, we'll talk about it. Yeah. I don't know. It's you, I think we'd have to know more about the chart, but. Yeah. I think there's like a wateriness where it's like a little more fluid. Yeah. Less structured. Yeah. So I feel like what I want to do though is I want to have like, okay, like these are the working hours.

44:10And like once that ends, like phones away. Like I want to make sure I have a couple quality hours with my kids. And then with my husband, you know. So that's what I want to do. Does that always happen? Absolutely not. Yeah. And it's also because my son's 10. So he has the baseball practice, the basketball practice, the football practice. What? Yes. Yo. My husband signs him up for so many sports too. And my daughter has like soccer, gymnastics, and like t-ball. And so it's like doing all of that. I forgot that's coming. Yes. And it's like, but I want them to have the normal life that I did. So it's like they are going to have to do all the sports.

44:43And I try to go to all the games. Like I don't want my schedule to ever interact with that because I, you know, it sucks if you don't have your parents. Oh my God, of course. Yeah. And my son's about to hit those ages, the age where it's like they don't care about their parents anymore. and like this one with your friends. So I'm like, I'm going to like milk this white can and soak it in before he hits like 13 and he's like, I don't care. I was just talking to a friend the other day whose daughter just turned 13. She said literally to the day, like wanted nothing to do with me. She's like, I'm struggling.

45:13Like really, really hard. Like my son will still hold my hand and he'll still like sometimes kiss me in the lips, which is shocking to me. Come on, wait. I love that because my husband always like, he's like, why do you kiss him on the lips and all that? I was like, you don't understand. Like, you don't get a mother's love. I'm like this. Yeah. It's not creepy. It is everything. It's so normal. And like, he'll come up to me and like, want to kiss me. I was like, okay, let's keep this energy because I love it. Like, don't change it. There's nothing better. Mama's son. Oh my gosh. I'm like, in one day that won't be what it is, you know?

45:48I know. He'll still be a stinky little teenager. So stinky. He's too cool. I think he thinks it's cool, though. I'm kind of lucky I'm in this position where I still like, I'm kind of on TV, right? So then he's like, thinks I'm still a little bit cool and then he's going to admit it because I'll say some of the slang that he said at school and stuff. And then he was like, oh, he'll like smile. And he's like. So I'm like, gotcha. I'm like, your mom's still cool. That is so cool. So I'm like, try to keep up with him. He'll teach me all the slang. Like I guess right now is like six, seven. Don't know what that means.

46:18What is that? Does anyone know? You know. Tell me. It's just some stupid thing. Yeah, he goes, he goes, six, seven. I'm like, what does that mean? I don't know. But I just know it's like cool. Okay. I want to use that. And what's the other one? I forgot what it's called. What is it called? Not Smize. What is it? It's like the, you know, the wrist. Sigma. Sigma. Yeah, he does this. What the heck? Tell me what that is. He does his face like this. So I nod. Sometimes he'll be playing baseball. He's about to go up to bat and I'm like Hudson. Just to kind of like make him laugh and like loosen up before.

46:55he goes down that is so cute he thinks it's hilarious for now I mean but when he turns 13 he's like stop doing that he's like stop mom you're not cool but for now we're still cool that is so cute yeah so he keeps he keeps me young I learn all the slang now that is so sweet dude nothing better nothing better than having kids it's the hardest thing it is the hardest and it's like the best role like no matter what career I have whatever success I ever have being a mom will always be my favorite and best role I've ever played in my life did you know that that was going to be the case for you or did you like, were you surprised by that?

47:27Um, I feel like I was surprised by it because I was the baby of the family. So it's like, I didn't have younger siblings to kind of like learn from. I just didn't really know what I was doing and stuff. And I think when I had my son, it's almost like nature's instincts like kicked in for me. I don't know if everyone has that. Cause I think one of my sisters, like she's like, I don't really feel that, but some people do, where it's like, I just felt like I even knew, I knew what to do. Like just like naturally, like yeah um which is so great I think it's just yeah like I and I said this before I've never felt love in my entire life until I had my son like obviously I've had love I had relationships but I'm like I've never had like true real authentic love until I met my son and then I really knew what love felt like 100 yeah it's crazy and then you realize how much like your parent must have loved you and it's like it's insane it's too much it's a whole thing I'll float away on a river of tears.

48:17I know. It's just so, it is such a full circle moment when that happens. It is. It's intense, for sure. Okay. Okay. Talk to me about the show and what do you want people to know that they might not know about whether it's the friendships, the dynamics, the actual filming of reality TV, the juggling of it all. What do you want people to know? I mean, it's very hard to juggle. I think like people don't realize how much you film versus how much actually makes it into the show. I would say 50 % of what I film makes it into the show. Wow. Which is actually crazy. And do you have any say? No. Zero. Do you have any approvals?

49:00Meaning like what they do choose, can you be like, eh? Zero. Wow. Unless it was like a legal, it was like a legal thing where I was like, this is like very sensitive. You cannot talk about this. Right. Okay. That's when you'd have the, but I'm like, I don't have anything like that I can think of. And so that and then as far as like everything else, like I feel like people are only seeing still a glimpse into our lives. Yeah. And so because there are so many of us on the show, like you're only seeing such a small part of our lives, even though you're seeing us every six months pretty much on your TV at the new season.

49:31It's like there's so much more to all of us that you don't see. Right. And that's why I was excited to write the books. Now you can see, well, like mostly like my story and like what I've been through. Yeah. But there's still like a lot more to me. Like I feel like I'm kind of funny. sometimes like me and mikaela both we both think we're like funny but maybe we're not at all i just don't know but like it's hard because like you can't always show that humor on the show because like sometimes that stuff gets cut cut out and i wish it didn't but um stuff like that like even though like we're fighting a lot on the show whatever and by we i mean most of them i don't fight too much but um even though there's a lot of fighting there's so many fun moments we're all just like dying laughing and having such a good time it just doesn't always see the light of the day so it's like some people are like oh they're mean girls and I'm like no like there's some people who can be mean for sure like everyone has like moments where they're not perfect but we have a lot of fun and we genuinely like like being around each other and people will sometimes think it's like this act and like it's not real it's this is fake because why would they be friends now when the second ago they hated each other I'm like because that's just like how we are like I don't know and that's sometimes the nature of really certain relationships you know you can go through that but it's not I'm like sometimes I wish it was because it would be easier yeah but i'm like it's not so yeah it's just funny because a lot of people like get those comments like this is staged this is a joke it's all staged like it's not but sometimes it'd be great if it was when i think about pregnancy prep there's already so much to hold physically emotionally mentally all of it and honestly i don't want supplements to be another thing i'm stressing about that's why in my first pregnancy i really trusted ritual their essential prenatal feels very intentional and well thought out from the ingredients to how it's designed.

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53:44Have your relationships outside of the show changed since being on the show and have you had to have like relationship updates with them? Like it's making me think of like when my friends learn of news on social media that I'm sharing before sharing directly with them so it's like that type of thing um for the most part I tell like my close friends like big life updates or things like that before they make like tv or okay whatever but I think it's changed as far as like I don't have a ton of time now to put in like friendships like I try to do check-ins with friends and stuff but it's really hard and I feel bad sometimes because like the friends that I have outside the show I can't give them like my attention or like the love I want to give because I'm so busy with the show that like if I do have a free moment I'm trying to spend that with my family and that makes it really hard to continue friendships like outside of the show like I do try my best but you know I've had a couple where it's like oh I feel like you don't really like want to hang out like since the show I'm like no it's not that I don't want to it's just like I'm exhausted like I'm running on fumes like I'm trying to hang out with my family spend time with them I'm trying to do the show I'm writing a book Like I run a business.

54:51Like it is so hard to even have time for me. Like, so it's like, it is hard because it's like, I don't ever want any friends or anyone to think like, oh, now that she does this show, she thinks she's like too good for us. That would never in my life be the case ever. It's just like, it is so hard because time is so limited for me, you know? And I wish I had more time in the day. It's not talked about enough. Just that aspect of, of motherhood in particular and layering on career, layering on so many things and like the mental load that you hold and, and just how certain things are going to take a hit, you know, certain things.

55:25Yeah, and it's hard because then you feel like guilt and you're like, Of course. Or like, you know. Of course. But knowing that everything is seasonal, you know, that you will have that season again where you can and want to pour into your relationships. Yeah. I really feel you deeply. I have a million more questions, but I want everyone to get the book and dig in. It's so good. I'm really, really happy for you. I'm so proud of you. I just met you, but I'm really proud of you because I know what it takes to pour into a book. It's a lot. And it's out in the world now. So you can get it anywhere books are sold.

55:55It's called Told You So. It's a beautiful memoir. I love the cover. Thank you so much. So beautiful. Thank you for being here. Thank you so much. I had so much fun. So much fun. All right, guys, we'll see you on the next one. Bye. Thank you so much, Macy. What an incredible conversation. I'm so grateful we got to chat, sit down together. And congratulations on your new book. Told You So is out now. You can get it anywhere books are sold. You can get the link in our show notes as well. Y 'all, thank you for buying our book. Our book came out in June. I'm just so blown away by the response, the love, the support.

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