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24:43And for me, it was just very emotional to see that. Yeah. What do you mean? So cute. When men do anything, I'm like, wow, look at him. It was fun. It's amazing and thoughtful and sweet. And so with the other men, do you think you weren't expressing your needs as much? Or what would you say? Like, maybe you didn't feel the connection. I was, it's such a crazy story, but I went to Greece maybe six months before that. And I hit my head really bad. I saw that shit. That was crazy. And I swear my friends say it was like the opposite of shallow hollow, where like I hit my head and I thought I was the coolest thing in the world and like the sexiest person to ever know.

25:21And then I just started dating. I'm like, I'm going to date anyone. Like you asked me on a date. Let's go. Let's see what happens. You were doing your thing. I was doing my thing and I didn't even care. So I don't know. I just kind of stopped putting so much weight on everything, which for me as a Capricorn, you know, a single mom, I put weight on every meeting. Is this the one? Yes. Oh, yes. Exhausting. Yes. I think that's the one thing that I had to reframe and stop doing because I remember when I took a year off dating after my relationship ended, but then I remember going into dating every guy I would meet I'm like are you my husband yeah and it wouldn't even be conscious it wouldn't even be like I would look at him and be like talking about it like I'd still be but I'd be thinking in my head are you worth my investing are you worth my time yeah and I didn't like that I was approaching men transactionally like what are you going to give me because that's not even like I'm approaching them like a person I didn't love that and so I had to like shift that where I was like okay what kind of I'm open for experiences I'm open to see what's available.

26:21I'm open to see what's possible. And just lightening that load of like... Lightening the load. Lightening the load. Also opening up... Nate and I talked about it the other day. He loves cats. Loves. And I'm allergic to them, like deathly allergic. And had I seen that on his profile, like cats, I would have been like, no. But yeah, because I can't be with cats. But my point is like, don't be so rigid also what you see. You just never know the connection that will really happen if you allow yourself to just be more relaxed about it. For sure. I think I've in the process too of dating after my relationship, I was like, I want to date outside my type because I have a very specific type.

26:56And I was like, I want to try to break that. Like whatever that type was also because it's like, where do our types come from? I'm like, I'm from Ohio. You know what I mean? It would be like an Ohio. Yes. My type is Paul Walker, but like,

27:11What do you mean? I'm like, I'll show you my man right now is like a Paul Walker, like lookalike. But I'm like, I want to date different types and different experiences. And I almost like, what I've also realized is that the reason why I'm not on apps is because the apps are, does your box fit my box? Yes. No pun intended. Literally. And then, but you, I know now when I meet someone, there's a vibe or not. There's a vibe. It's actually about the vibe. And it's not even about the list. It's like, how do I feel when I'm with you? What's our chemistry? What's our connection? How safe do I feel? And you can't find that from online.

27:49An app, no. No. Because there's some people on the apps I remember, like I thought, oh, this guy on paper is fantastic. But it was like communism. We've all done that. Looks good on paper, but does not work in real life. Because then you meet them and like, there was just something off. You know what I'm talking about? Yes, I do. I had one of those recently where I'm like, this is a slam dunk out of the park on paper. And then my friends were like, I showed one of my friends his messages. I was like, isn't this a beautiful message? They're like, yo, bro, that's ChatGPT that you're talking to. Stop.

28:19My man was like using ChatGPT to keep up with me. Swear to God. Stop. They were like, he used too many Oxford commas. No. Yes. And then this. And the M-dash. Get the M-dash. The M-dash. Lindsay goes, yo, that M-dash is popping way too much. That is ChatGPT for anyone who's listening. Do not use M-dashes. That's because your keyboard doesn't easily, it's not readily available. Especially on a phone. What do you mean? It doesn't even work. But it's so funny because the way that it shifted when he stopped using ChatGPT, like his normal lingo, I'm like, oh, you're a dum-dum. It was like, oh, okay.

28:53And I was like. I hope he's not listening. No, no, no. I was like, oh, my God. Me and Chat Daddy, like me and this guy, I was like, wow, we have a vibe. And I was just me and ChatGPT just having a little thing. Oh, that is brilliant. He's like, oh, you know, like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. He's talking ChatGPT. She said this. Now what do I say? He's like, how do I really? Honestly. Oh, my gosh. It was beautiful messages. Like it was like. That's all you just did. I know. Honestly, I'm about to. And we had a beautiful, we had a beautiful moment. And then, you know, I met in person and I was like, wow, you're not this conversation, which we always have.

29:28The thing also that I feel like that was so much more relaxed is I already had Olivia. Yeah, that's so real. So I was already a mom. I didn't feel like the need, but there is so much more pressure for people who do want to be moms. Yeah. Because unfortunately, there is a biological clock. Yeah. That's what I feel right now is I was like, I do a few of my friends right now that are going through divorce have kids, which makes it so much harder. So I'm not saying it's making it easier, but there is an aspect of that, that I'm like, well, at least it feels my perception is it's not easier, but there's a part of me that's like, wow, I kind of wish that because then you, I could just get it out of the way, but then you're right.

30:05There there's a give and take because there's so many layers. There's other people who don't want to date with people with children. I'm sure. Yeah. When you were, How did you deprogram and like let go of or heal from the narcissism to be in a relationship with someone you love now? I mean, it definitely, I did EMDR. Oh, wow. Okay. Which helped me a lot. And I think Hoffman helped me a lot because it went back to why I even got there in the first place. So walk me through Hoffman and your experience of what you can share. Well, I can share anything. I think everyone takes different aspects that help them.

30:38For me, the things that I hated the most people loved. but it really is mostly going through all of your childhood trauma and sort of getting in there, getting dirty. I mean, you even have like a funeral for your parents, which was so emotional for me. I wrote a letter to both my parents, good and bad. So you really, you have so much time, a lot of meditation. Again, you have no distractions, no phone, no TV, no radio, no music, no books, no magazines, nothing. I mean, I was reading the back of a shampoo bottle because I was like, I just need to read something. Dude, honestly. I did a silent retreat one time and I was like, God, the way that I'm like, I was just like looking at grass.

31:15I was like talking. It was insane. Yeah, it gets, you can get crazy. And there were silent days that me, silent girl. Honestly, you're like talking to them. You're like in silent language. You're like, hello. One lady, I tried to talk to her and she's like, no, stop. I did not try and talk to her. I'm sorry. I had a question about the garden. You're so annoying. I would crush you. I had to go through all of that, that I had to relive almost the childhood trauma, loss of meditation. It's like deep diving into your childhood pain. I went to one called Onsite. It's like a form of Hoffman. It's in Nashville.

31:52And a lot of it was psychodrama. Did you guys do psychodrama? No. So basically, psychodrama is the experience of re going through a traumatic experience from childhood. You have other people in your group acting out as people. So if we were doing something from my childhood, I'd be like, I'm me and you're my mom. And you'd have to like act out my mom. But how do I know what your mom's going to say? I would like tell you. Oh, it's like a whole script. Yeah, it's like a whole thing. It's like a play. It's like a play. And then it helps you repattern and reprocesses like with your prefrontal cortex in a new way.

32:23Girl, did it work? For me, that's not my preferred way. And what it showed me was how much how I don't trust anybody, how I can be available emotionally. Wait, is that true? You don't trust anyone? No, I trust people now, but it's very hard to earn my trust. Do you feel like you trust people? Yeah. What's that like? It feels fun. Is it? It feels fun. I literally trust two people. Two people. I trust Lindsay and my sister. That's it. Uh-huh. What do you, like, I trust you. Do you though? I do to the level of our friendship. Okay. But if we were to like get super, super close, it would be like something would have to, yeah, I'm like weirdo.

33:09Would I have to give you some blood? Okay. For you, Olivia. No, let me think about this. Do I trust people? I trust, I trust, I think that's a part of me that's telling a story that I don't trust people as a protective mechanism. I trust people. I think in deep, deep intimacy and relationships of, it's hard for me. I think the trust is more, I, yeah, it's like being held in when I'm processing, being held when I'm going through something, you know, there's different levels of trust. Do I trust that you're going to tell me the truth? Yeah. Do I trust you're going to show up on time? Yeah. Do I trust that you're going to be there for me?

33:51Do I trust I can tell you anything? Yeah. But is it, are you going to be there for me or hold me and not turn your back on me? When you need the person to boast. Yeah. Well, I can see why you are like that. Right. I know. Yeah. And that's okay. Have you trusted people your whole life? No. Okay. No, never. Because the people that I trusted the most let me down. Yeah, I know. Right. So it took a lot of therapy. Yeah. I read something recently that completely reframed how I think about AJ. and it has nothing to do with wrinkles or energy levels on the surface. Scientists just identified the first nutritional deficiency in 75 years.

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37:25Actually, yeah, that is so true. Building that trust with your therapist is such a, like building the relationship with my therapist as like a foundational relationship, you know, for trust and intimacy is so impactful for me. That could get a little messy though, because you're paying them too. Hey, let me, we're friends. She's my friend. Of course, of course. She's my friend and she loves me. I just think that you have to allow people to show up for you too. That was, there's my, that was my problem. Not allowing people to show up for me. I don't need anyone. I don't need you. I don't need anyone.

37:58That was my bulletproof vest that I wore my whole life. That's a not trust though, right? Because you're like, I don't trust you to show up. I just don't need you. Oh, I don't need anyone until I finally let people help me. And then you'd be surprised when you allow people in how much more intimate your relationship gets, even friendships. Okay. So there's a lot of women here that do not let people in, feel like they have to do everything, feel like they have to over function. How did you go from that to now allowing people in? I'm not going to lie. It's I'm 48 years old. It was just the last couple of years I started Just the other day, I was coming home from New York.

38:33And my friend said, I'm going to pick you up from the airport. I said, don't be ridiculous. I'm going to take an Uber. Don't be ridiculous. And he just said, receive. Cute. That's all he said. Wow. And he showed up with Erwan to go food and water and took me home and just to be my friend. And I would have never let that happen years ago. I would have absolutely said no. But what that made him feel like a good friend. Yeah, totally. It made him feel needed. Totally. You know, and I will show up like that for my friends too, but I never allowed anyone to show up for me. I think that's a beautiful point of the domino effect of being a good friend.

39:11Because my ability to be a good friend has been inspired by people being a good friend to me. Right. Like, it's like people have expanded me and shown me, like, I'll never forget one time I was at this event and I was talking to someone and, you know, events, it's like, you're just flying around. It's like, who knows? And my friend Shan, and we were having a deep conversation and I was opening up about something. And we ended up like, she had to leave or I had to leave. And when we left, she called me in the car and was like, hey, I want you to finish your story. Like, I wanted to hear the rest of what you were saying.

39:43Like, I didn't want us to end our conversation. And it was like, to acknowledge and attune to the fact we were in on something deep that was meaningful to me. That's my like love language though, too, is being considered like that. But I just was like that felt that expanded me where I'm like, I want to make sure I'm catching and following through when someone's opening up on something. I'm like staying with them and I'm acknowledging where we're at. And I'm saying like, if something happens, we're going to continue. You know what I mean? Like staying present for someone's process was inspiring for me.

40:14Um, what else has inspired you? But even I think about, sorry, a friendship of mine just came to mind. I have a friend. Uh, I had a friend who every time she would go through a really stressful time or some depression, she would cocoon by herself. Yeah. And sooner or later, like after a while, that friendship sort of disintegrated because if I can't ever be there for you when you need a friend, what are we doing here? Yeah. And so we have to think about ourselves that way. We don't allow anyone in to help us. Yeah. The intimacy doesn't grow. It just stays stagnant. Yeah. I have a friend like that too.

40:46You know, I was with her like a few weeks ago and she's like, I just don't feel like myself. I'm like, thanks for giving me the opportunity to know you. Yeah. Like you not feeling like you have to show up perfect or show up whatever actually allows me to be your friend. Yes. We are all messy. And if we're all pretending to be perfect, first of all, it's a lie. Yeah. And there is such vulnerability and authenticity in being messy. Yeah. I am messy AF in my, especially in my romantic history. And I don't mind. Like, so what? So that's my story. and I'm sticking to it. Yeah. It's like, so what about me?

41:24Okay. And you know what? Like even my career has taken its up and down. Yeah. But if I don't share those trials and tribulations with people, how is anyone else going to feel seen, heard, or understood? Yeah. It's also helping people like see the truth of everything. You know what I mean? I think for me where it gets hard for me to allow myself to be seen is I live in a constant energy output. And so for me, it's almost like I have to clock in and like switch to like, okay, let me share. I have to like almost turn around and be like, Krista, hello. And I'm like, hey, girl, let's talk about this thing.

42:01You know what I mean? Like I have to completely, I just have to do like a mental, I have to have a mental moment with myself before I'm able to be held by someone because I'm usually so focused on other throughout my life and throughout my day. Right. Yes. You're a giver. Yeah. Yeah. And that's like a protective mechanism, but it is true that it like doesn't allow people to see you. And I think that's where being with the narcissist was kind of that pattern of always focused on the other, not prioritizing the self, not really being able to receive. I know. So you, in your journey to being someone that can receive and be in relationships where you're receiving, was there a moment where you're like, I want to shift this?

42:43I mean it's you could only carry all the weight by yourself for so long and so your bones start disintegrating like sooner or later you just got to put down yeah the package yeah you know and just allow somebody else to carry it for a little while and I think I was just getting tired I was getting tired of reliving the same relationship in a different meat suit over and over with the Amen. Yeah. Oh, it's, it's you again. Oh, it's you again. You know? And I'm just like enough is, it was like, I had enough. When was your enough moment? I think when I hit my head in Greece, I swear to God. I mean, I really hit my head.

43:17You really, I saw that bruise girl. That was like, you guys like actually funny as hell. You're like, I hit my head and my life changed. Yeah. I don't recommend. No, but I think, I think I was in a bad part. I think I was in a bad headspace on that trip, in the beginning of that trip. And I think I just had enough. And I think I looked at myself. I mean, you guys listening, I really had a huge black eye, but I think I hit my head because I was just, I don't know, I was in a good space. And I remember looking in the mirror and being like, enough, just enough. I've had it. It's so weird because I think so often in life, it's like the soul, what I've come to realize in my age is my soul is just sometimes the contracts up sometimes like even with my marriage or business things or friendships or anything.

44:05Sometimes my soul is just like, we're done. We're done. Like even with men that I've dated, it's like, I'll wake up one day and be like, we're complete. And it's like, we are, we are done. And there's no emotion. There's no drama. It's just like time to move on. And it's like the soul contract has ended. The path is now clear and it's the best. And anybody who's listening and you feel that way here, I want to be clear. Yes, you'll feel like it's enough. That doesn't mean walking away is easy. Yeah. You will maybe still second guess, but you, it's almost like this pain in your soul that knows it's enough.

44:34You still have to do the work. You still are going to second guess yourself. You still might go back and do a little effing once in a while. You know what I'm saying? I know what you're saying. I know what you're saying. But you know, enough is enough. And another thing that happened in Greece that was magical was again, I had the world's worst black eye. It looked like I'd gotten a bar fight and I didn't care because I'm like, okay, I'm not going to meet anyone now. So I'm just going to have a good time. Lo and behold, I ended up meeting somebody like 10 years, my junior. So it was so romantic.

45:05It was something, you know, it just out of nowhere. And I realized there is magic in me. Yeah. Even with this nasty, Yeah. You like how I look, but I'm like, there is magic with me within me looking like this. Let me just get back home and recalibrate. Yes. You know, what's funny is I think with men, it's almost like sometimes when you have that, they can approach you. You're more playful. You're more open. You don't even care. No. You know, it's like they have something to talk about. Yeah. Oftentimes if like a man is looking or if a man is looking at you and you're fully dolled up at the club or out, they're like, what am I going to do with this thing?

45:40Yeah. Like I'm terrified of her. That is terrifying. But then if you're like a girl with a black eye. Well, I mean, again, I don't recommend doing that. But it also goes to show is like sometimes when you're at the gym or when you are, you have no makeup on, you're at the grocery store is when you meet somebody. 100%. I never get hit on more than when I'm at the gym. Well, I mean, just to. Yeah, that's so true. No, I think I'm always there and I'm looking at them. I'm like, I'm also like just doing butt workouts every single day, waving at everybody. constant donkey kicks. I've just been over donkey making direct eye contact with people.

46:16There's a tip. Literally. Um, what was your process to moving? So a lot of women listening are in toxic relationships and then they want to find love because you found love. And I know you were not believing it or were you like, what was your process of, of healing yourself enough to find your love? It was my self-esteem. That's the only thing. That's my only formula for finding love. How do you increase your self-esteem? I think everyone's different. There's not a one size. There's not a formula for everyone. For me, it was the habits that I was continuing to do that were not serving me. So for me, I would numb myself constantly with alcohol.

46:54And it was always the tool that worked for me. Of course it doesn't. But it was my go-to. It became my crutch. And I realized in order for me to really recalibrate my life, I needed to take a break. really, and just feel, not run away, be in the moment. And I had to completely get that out of my system. And once I did, everything else started. Like I started working out more. I ate differently. I stopped. I started feeling, I started processing and instead of running away. And it was just for me, that little thing that sort of everything else felt, it was like a dominoes. Yeah. I stopped drinking when I was 26 and that was like a domino moment for me, for sure.

47:36Like was, cause it was the first decision where I'm like, I'm choosing this for me. This goes against society. This goes against numbing. Yeah. And this helps all areas of my life. Yeah. My body, my brain, my like energy, my sleep, my skin. Like I, now I think I'm like, what are, what is any benefit to drinking besides numbing? But again, then that's what alcohol represented for me. I, a lot of my friends drink and they have no problems. I agree. So many of my Yeah. And they like, it doesn't affect them negatively. I think everyone's got their thing that might be holding them back for, from being their true, authentic, real superior self.

48:16Yeah. But you as a TV host, someone that's so like seasoned, you're known for your personality. Was it like, how has your personality changed? You know what I mean? Like, I just don't care as much anymore. Yeah. And that's where the magic happens. Really? When you don't, when you try not to make everyone happy. Yeah. Because if you actually make everyone happy, you're doing something wrong. Yeah. How do you deal with then people not, because, so you can say that, but then how do you deal with the repercussions of that? For women that want to live in that, how do they, how do they handle that? Okay.

48:47So this just happened. I was on the Today Show the other day. Which is sick, babe. Thank you. But somebody DM'd me something gnarly, like just ridiculous. And I read it to Nate and I was laughing. Me 15 years ago would have been crying. but I realized this is her perception because of her issues with her childhood with whatever I triggered yeah it has zero to do with me and she just wanted to be heard so I just wrote back great idea like she was telling me exactly how to redo everything that she just saw me do and I just said great idea and she was so nice after that but I'm like people just want to be heard and their problem with you has everything to do with them not you unless you're an a-hole I know you You know, unless you're a real just a-hole.

49:30I know. But if, for the most part, you're just, I'm just doing some day-go-posh on a vase at eight o 'clock in the morning. Like, it's not that deep. 100 % lady. What'd she say? She was like, here's a tip. It was a whole thing. I mean, it doesn't matter. But my point is, if you are true, okay. If you believe in yourself and you are authentically being yourself, that's it. That's all you have to worry about. It's when you start pretending to be somebody else, you're going to second-guess yourself because that's not even you. And if you're not confident in who you are, Of course, when somebody tells you you're a jackass, you're going to be like, oh, yeah.

50:02Yeah.

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53:35I feel like also too, um, if you have negativity bias, so if you have a negativity bias mindset, which is what most of us have, where we look for the negative, we look for what we need to do. Someone will be like, you're so amazing. And we're waiting for the butt. You know, it's like when you get feedback at work and they're like, you did all this, you did all this. And you're literally just waiting for the negative. So many people have that as their default mindset. But when you shift it to like positivity mindset, you're like, oh, like what is the potential here? Like what does this even show for me?

54:04But I think that's a really good point about people having their own perspectives and opinions. And whenever I work with people and coach people on The Voice or being more expressed, I'm always like the people that have these ideas or like the feedback on things, I'm like literally like think about all of the layers of the human experience that causes them to believe what they believe and be who they are. Their childhood, where they grew up, what they watched on TV, their media programming, what they're consuming now, like their mood, their sleep, their gut biker biome. Like, yes, there's so many things that have nothing to do with you.

54:37Like maybe decoupaged something when she was a kid and she slapped her. You know what I mean? Like, who knows? But that's not my business. Yeah, none of my business. That's why I always say to you when I get something, I'm like, oh, this is, I forgot. This is none of my business. Right. What you think about me is none of my business. I believe that, again, to a certain extent, if your friend's telling you. Friends. Or somebody that you, that you are hurting their feelings or you are being a jerk, You need to listen to that. I agree. That's what I say. So I do something called a friendship audit.

55:05And I just, the friendship audit is basically just getting clear on your life of who matters and what access they have to you. Yes. So it's like, who is your core, like people that call you anytime you're available, need anything you're available, know everything about you, available for feedback, like whatever, like Lindsay, my sister, you know, like a few people in my life. Apparently it's just Lindsay and your sister. I literally have no life. No, but then, you know, my second string, not my second string, my second core people, you being one of them, are people that are like deeply love and know.

55:36But like, it's like just, I'm able to be like, it's like if you called me, I would be always available. But you just have levels of access to yourself. And you know, it's okay that as you get older, that the group gets smaller and smaller. Because who's your core? My sister. Yep. Trish. You have your sister. Paul. Nate. Yeah. Yeah. My man is that third ring for me that I'm going to fill that spot. Yeah. You know, of your people within. But I think that clarifies for me too. Like if my sister or Lindsay, I mean, you just gave me a good piece of feedback before we even started recording because you're a good witness.

56:10But they can say something to me and I'm going to be like, okay, I'm going to take that in. You know, whereas someone that's like random on the internet, I'm not going to be like, why? I don't know you. Please don't. Yeah. Like I'm not going to take what you say for my mind. No. Unless it's, unless you agree. Yeah, that's true. Because sometimes people say something, I'm like, you know what? I didn't think about that. You're right. Yeah. Oh, totally agree. And then that's okay. Totally. Actually, I know sometimes people really blow my mind where I'm like, that was a good point. Yeah. I'm like, thank you for that.

56:39But don't put, I mean, and if you're going to put yourself out there, you have to realize there are going to be critics. Oh, yeah. And that's okay. How do you, so how do you handle that? Because you're someone that's been public for so long. You've been in so many media platforms. You've hosted so many shows. a lot of women that are listening want to be seen. They want to be expressed. They want to be on TV or just more public. Like how do you deal with feedback or how do you get the confidence for that? I mean, it's for the most part, I've been very lucky that people, I mean, I don't do anything controversial.

57:12I'm like putting throw pillows in a room. Let's be real. You know what I mean? Like, what are we doing here? But I think that, you know, it's a cutthroat business at times and women, especially in this business, can be really competitive. But I am a girl's girl. Yeah. And some of my friends are in the business and we have always supported each other. I don't believe that there's a lack. I think there's plenty for everyone. And even people who are in my business, what's meant for you is going to find you. And what's meant for me is going to find me. And even if I wanted, there's been plenty of times that my best friend's up for something and she gets it and I don't.

57:42That means it was meant for her. And the universe will support me in another way. I just don't know what it is yet. But it took me a long time to figure that out. I do feel like that's a seasoned entertainment industry perspective. Because even me, you've been in longer than me, but like even been in my journey, you see the shiny things. You see them come. You see them go. You see people. You know, you kind of watch it all. And you're like, oh, okay. Like I'm understanding. Because then you'll get the opportunity. You're like, this was absolutely for me. It happened easily, happened naturally.

58:13And you'll see things that weren't. You're like, that didn't make sense. Right. Like you're like, oh, it's fine. But it's hard to, when you're in a difficult space that you feel sort of desperate. Oh, yeah. Maybe financially you need something. It's hard when you, it's difficult when something passes you by. But I promise you, if you do the work, and I hate when people say vibe, but it's true. It's like when you're vibrating at a high frequency. And again, that's going to be different for everyone. For me, it was getting rid of not just the alcohol, but the people in my life that were draining me.

58:44I was watching stuff that maybe wasn't, you know, like the real housewives BS or like listening to crime podcasts, which I was getting into for a minute. I'm like, why am I listening to Margaret who just got like butchered in her bathroom? Why are you like, what am I doing? No, not okay. You're putting on a face mask. You're like, and then three of her limbs were found and you're like, what? Yeah. Like not good for the nervous system. Not good for the brain. It's those little, again, it's those little things of getting them out that you just, it's, you become lighter and lighter and you vibe higher.

59:14It's like what you put in your mouth. I mean, not like that. I'm talking about food. I'm talking about that. And what you put in your body. I'm talking about that. But seriously. No, but seriously. And the supplement, it's like those little things of taking care of yourself. Yeah. I actually, that's curious. So, and I'm going to think about this for myself. What are you doing right now that you think is reducing your vibration? What action or practice? Not meditating enough. I've just, yeah, life gets in the way. You know, just being a mom too. I preach a lot. Like you only need five minutes a day.

59:50If you don't even have five minutes. Girl, shut up. Yeah. I have to meditate more. That's a good one. And journal. I haven't journaled in a long time because life got in the way. Yeah. I, I, I don't journal. Um, I think for me, I think, yeah, I want to know what are you doing? Um, that's not keeping me. Cause I am, I'm like, why am I not richer? Um, so what's keeping me from vibrating higher? I think there's, I think I know things and I don't move quick enough. Oh really? Why? Like what? Like an example of the conversation we were talking about before where I'm like, I should talk to this person about this thing.

1:00:27Yeah. That's how I feel. Yeah. That's what I should do. Do. Yeah. But I'm like, oh, what about that? You know what I mean? I'm like kind of willy nilly, but that's specific to romantic relationships. Um, so less lag time between what I know to be true and what I know I need to do. I also really realized that I outsource a lot of my opinions and perspectives. How? I'm very clear. Like I'm very, like, I'm pretty like in my vibe, but I actually have even our conversation, us talking about what we were talking about before with dating. Like I, I obviously love you and I will take your opinion very seriously.

1:01:03And I'll be like, oh yeah, I should do that. Where I'm like, no, what do I want to do? What's true for me? Like I very much go to my friends a lot for their opinions. Do you feel like deep down you really know what you should do? I feel like sometimes I do, but I'm always available for another opinion. Yeah, but that's okay. Yeah. Just be careful you take advice from. Exactly. This opinion, this conversation we were having, basically, if men and women can be friends. Yeah. Sort of along those lines. That's a whole other podcast. It's a whole other podcast because I'm dating someone that has a lot of girlfriends.

1:01:41And by the time this is out, this will never, we're not going to be together. So do you really believe that? Because if you really believe that, then what are you doing? it's so sexy and fun so you're just doing it for fun I'm I love it for what it is right now okay I actually I see a future with this person but there's fine tuning that needs to happen that's fine they need to do what I say I actually that's something I'm thinking about too I'm like I don't like that when there's a part of me that comes online when I get into a relationship that's intimate where I do feel like, um, I get a little controlling.

1:02:22Yeah. But is this, is this controlling for me to have an opinion though? I don't think there's anything controlling for you to have a feeling about somebody having a lot of girlfriends. Okay. Thank you. As a heterosexual man, you know, that's the narcissist abuse vibes where I'm like, I have an opinion and me expressing how I feel. Yeah. But that's the problem. But the problem is that you have this feeling, but you don't communicate it. I know. Which it's weird because you are such a good communicator. I'm an amazing communicator. Right. If, if, and this is the thing I've, this is my invitation for my growth edge and I'm going to communicate it tonight and say it.

1:02:54Um, it's just this part of my world that's hard for me with communication where there's intimacy and connection with men where I, if I don't really, if I'm not feeling connected to you, I can talk. I'll be like slicing and dicing. I know. That's what I've noticed with you. And you can cut all of this out of the podcast. No, please put it on. The last time I was here, you had the same situation. You were, it was like, wait, and I said to you, wait, you haven't told him this yet? You're like, no, I'm not going to say anything. No, I probably will. Should I? I don't know. It's like, you almost turned into like, what are you doing?

1:03:26Like, that's not even Krista. It's not me. It's like, you turn it into a completely different person. You like morph into this girl who's afraid to speak their truth. And that's not you. That's why it's, it's fascinating for me as your friend to watch it from the outside. Cause it's like two totally different people. No, it's insane. Yeah. It's like, do you remember Jim, the cartoon? What is it? It's like two of them. That's how old I am. Okay. Yeah. Just anyway, I agree. And I, um, yeah, I, I get a feeling in my body where I'm like, oh, rats, I need to talk about this. I guess. Yeah. I think.

1:04:06Yeah. I don't, I don't enjoy that. It's almost like you lose your power once you start liking them. Yes. And yes. 100%. What do you mean? But when you don't like them, you're like, I'm the best. You're this badass bitch. I'm a bad. I literally am a badass bitch. And then I like you and I'm like, I don't want to say anything. Yeah. I'm like, avoidance. Me too. We're not going to do that anymore. Yeah. Starting today. Starting today. That's it. Having the conversation tonight. I'm not even here to be a guest on the podcast. This is an intervention. This is actually my whole life. Okay. In the show, something else I want to talk to you about, because in your show, you talked about imposter syndrome too with Bobby.

1:04:40Oh my gosh. Which I love. Tell me about that. Well, oh my gosh. We actually talked about this that day, but it didn't make it into the show. I feel like my whole career has been based on a lie in a sense. Like I got this job on HGTV on Craigslist. Like I had no business. It's not like I went to design school and I had all these clients and then I got this HTV job. It like came out of nowhere. And I remember being on set the first day and they were like, camera crew was there like, okay, go ahead and paint that wall. I'm like, I don't know how to paint the wall. I swear. And it was here, we were talking about faking it till you make it.

1:05:17I know nobody, this is the first time I'm ever telling this story, by the way. No one knows the story. Fuck yeah. I was on set that day. They told me to paint the wall. I didn't know how to paint a wall. And so I lived in New York or DC at the time. I had this tiny little studio that downstairs a block away was this place called Books a Million. It was in DuPont Circle. Went to Books a Million that night and got every book I can get my hands on that was about carpentry, DIY, design. And I didn't have a friend in DC. So every day I would get off work and just write. I had notebooks full of just teaching myself.

1:05:53So I would go into work the next day to the producers and I'd be like, I want to talk about this tip, this tip, and this tip. And I would do it on camera. And that's what made that show so good because not only was I teaching the audience, bitch, I was teaching myself. That is the truth. So people actually watched me learn how to be a designer. Little did they know while I was teaching them. No one knows that story. The fact that first of all, too, that like, I think what I noticed too with a lot of my clients is they feel like they should already know something. Like, it's like, they don't even give themselves grace.

1:06:26They're like, they're like, okay, I want to read you my website. I don't know why I don't already have this done already. I'm like, nobody knows what they're doing. No one knows what they're doing. We just learn, we learn, we learn by doing, but also you putting in the effort to read every night. Well, that's where, that's what I think people need to understand. You got to back it up with work. You got to back it up with learning, education, knowledge, and then doing. Because if you get the opportunity and then you don't fight for it, then it's going to pass you by. I love that part of the episode.

1:06:54Just you guys talking about that. Because it's like you can fake it until you make it, which is great. But once you've made it, you have to do the work to do it. Even with podcasting, so many people start podcasts. So many people want to be podcasters. and it looks easy from the outside to be a podcaster, but there's so much to it. And over the years I've studied, I've like gotten teachers, I've done vocal training. I've like watched speakers over and over and over again to like develop the craft and be better. Obviously there's a lot of places I could be better, but it's like you actually putting in the work to be good at what you do.

1:07:30But here's also, and by the way, you are a great podcaster. I think when you are in that opportunity and you are doing the work to educate yourself and it feels exciting, you're on the right track. Yeah, that's a good one. When it's daunting and I don't want to do this, you're not on the right track. That's a really good one. It should feel effortless. Yeah. And I'm not saying there were times I was up until the wee hours in the morning and then I had to be on camera the next day, but it didn't feel daunting. It felt exciting. What it was exciting about home stuff for you. Like, why were you so drawn to it?

1:07:59Because we grew up really well off and then my parents almost overnight, we were poor to the point that I was breaking into neighbors' homes to get food because I had no food. I became a latchkey kid within a week. And so I would get home from school. My mom would not come home until I was already asleep. So I became, I know this sounds crazy, but I became best friends with the house. And I had this unspoken agreement that if I take care of you, can you take care of me? And every day I would come home from high school and And I would clean the baseboards, clean the screens, organize the closets.

1:08:34And the house became, it was such a beautiful house, but it was falling apart. And when the bank came and kicked us out, they evicted us. My friends had no idea. They're like, what do you mean you're poor? What do you mean? Because the house looked impeccable. And that's what sparked my passion. Is no matter where you are in life, you should still be proud of your home. Wow. And it's doable. Wow. What was the money? How did they lose their money? I mean, it depends who you ask, but we just stopped paying the mortgage. And my mom was a stay-at-home mom her whole life. So she just started selling insurance, which when you sell insurance, you don't get paid for a long time.

1:09:10So we just had no money coming in, which is why I had to break into our neighbor's homes because there's no food in the house. Like the house started falling apart. Did you ever watch that movie Money Pit? It's like an old movie about a house that falls apart. It was Tom Hanks. The house started falling apart that I, the only warm room in the house because the HVAC system was out was my, the powder room upstairs. There was a heater in the ceiling. And so I just, and the only floor space was like right next to the toilet. So I had to sleep next to a toilet before I went to school every night with like a bunch of blankets next to a toilet.

1:09:43Cause it was the only room in the house that was warm, but nobody knew. But it was a huge, nice house. It was a huge, nice house, but it was falling apart. Like really like marble floors, which made it even more freezing, but there was no heat. So my mom would wake up because she would get home late and she would turn on the oven and open the door so we could huddle like next to the oven so that we could get warm while we were eating breakfast standing up. It was like that, which is ironic that I make beautiful houses. Right. No, I mean, it makes sense. I'm always like thinking of a spiritual meeting.

1:10:17I'm curious if this resonates. so we had a really nice we were like had a really nice house growing up like we did we were like one of the richer families in the Ohio but it was like Ohio rich but I knew my dad would lose his job a lot and so there was like money things internally that were going on and all this stuff kind of stuff so I always felt like a fraud yeah I always felt like oh people don't know that this isn't real right this isn't stable like this isn't like and it would be like people would think I was rich, but I knew. So what is that like for you? Well, my friends back then, still friends now, she used to call me rich bitch.

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1:14:00So I totally get what you're saying. And that's for me been something where it's like, I call, my teacher calls it fraud patrol with me. Cause there's a way, there's a part of me that feels like a fraud. Still now. Yeah. Not as much anymore, but like, what's the fraud feeling and how does it experience now? I'm like, like if people are like, oh, that's amazing or whatever. I'm like, oh, you don't know the truth. Like there's a part of me that sometimes is like, I just feel like, yeah, like a fraud, I guess. Wait till you're in your late forties. you're going to feel like I'm not a fraud. I'm a fucking badass.

1:14:33Oh, I'm, I'm, I would say I'm delusional 99 % of the time about how I am about myself, but there is tiny aspects of me that feel like fraud. I don't feel, I used to feel that way. I don't anymore. Especially now, the more I'm, especially with a new show, the way that I'm able to be in a cooking segment and then do something working out and then talk to Lewis Howes or Danny Morrell or Michael Beckwith, like I could go from place to place and easily transition. And I don't think there's, I mean, there are people who could do it, but I think I do it and I make it look fun. And I think that that's my superpower too.

1:15:06But before I would have been like, well, what's the big deal? Anybody could talk to anybody. It's like, no, they can't. I know. Honestly, bro. That's a, that's a whole thing. And you know, what's interesting about that comment with, with anyone can talk to anyone is like, what I'm realizing now more and more is communication is like communion. It's like, Like that's, it's everything. It's everything. I was thinking about, I was actually at dinner with friends the other night and I was like, I feel so loved in my life. I feel so seen. And the reason why I feel so seen and loved is because my friends are amazing communicators.

1:15:39The men I'm with, for the most part, are amazing communicators. And it's like, that's how I know, you know what I mean? Yeah. I'm like the attention, the attunement, obviously, and they're very present. Like all you guys are very present, but there's such an aspect of being a good communicator that makes your life so rich. Yes. And so powerful. I know. Well, I know. And then I know there are many people who, all they do is small talk all day long about weather. And there is, I'm like, where is the depth in that? I don't know how. Where is the actual relationship in that? If that's, it's all surface level.

1:16:10I know. I could only do that for so long. I know, me too. It's funny. When I grew up in Ohio, that was kind of all, was like surface level. Yeah. So I was desperate. Yeah. I was desperate. I was listening. Talk to me about feelings. Literally, I was listening to like all this like punk rock stuff, just like crying in my car. I'm like, no one understands me. Just like so emotional. But now it's funny because depth feels like normal. So even when I'm in like my coaching calls or retreats, when people are sharing the deepest things, it feels like normal. Just another Monday for you. Just another Monday for me.

1:16:41When for other people, it's the most they've ever opened up their whole life. Literally. Yeah. And also though, when we're talking about truth, it's, it feels right. So it doesn't like, I remember depth back in the day, it would be like, oh my God, they told me about their trauma. And it would be like, oh, I'd have to do something with it. I'd have to hold, like, there would be a feeling where I'd be like, oh my God, they, you know, and it's like, now I'm like, when people talk to you about something that's deep, they're just telling me the truth. Right. And that feels so light. That feels so free.

1:17:12I'm like, oh, this feels light. They just want to be heard, not solved, like not fixed. Yeah. That's a huge, huge component of my friendships and relationships that I work on now is like, we'll be on the phone with each other and we're like, do you want to be helped or do you want to be heard? And it's like, do you want to be provided tools and insight and research and support? Or do you want to be just heard? And most 99 % of the time, I'm like, just hear me out. Yeah. I'm like, I can figure this out myself. Yeah. Like, how do you deal that in your relationship with your partner? because men usually want to help.

1:17:47I don't know. There's a very good dynamic between the two of us because we dance well together. I don't know. He listens a lot. He doesn't actually, he really doesn't try to help. He listens a lot. Think when your man respects you. Yeah. They're not trying to help as much. I know. Not that I'm saying that. Not that I'm saying that. Because he knows I can do it. Yes. Not that I'm saying that if your man tries to help, he's not respecting you at all. Yeah. But I just, I think I've, I've noticed that in my life is when the men really respect me, they just listen. Yeah. He does this funny thing. And no matter what, he's always on my side, which I think is the cutest thing.

1:18:28What do you mean? Like if I call to complain. What are we even doing here if you're not? No, because it's just like funny because I'll call to complain about something. I'm like, that son of a bitch. And I'm like, oh, I love that. King. King. Have you seen those reels where it's like, where it was like my best friend. And it's like, and it's like, and yeah, and where were you sitting? And you're like, minded your own business. Just doing your thing. Totally. You need that. Like, cause I probably with a narcissist, I mean, whenever I would express. You're always wrong. Oh, you're always wrong. Always.

1:18:56It was, I'll never forget one time I was saying something that's like, heavier thought that you're the problem. I was like, I actually have thought that, but. Yeah, literally. I'm like, I literally think about that 24 seven. Then I'm the problem. like let me have a moment to have someone that's just on your side as like it's such an amazing feeling but I mean I kissed a lot of toads to get here what would you say to any woman right now that's single and struggling with her journey I told I understand where you are I have been there I have worried I thought that my time was over I thought this is the best I can get work on yourself really work on yourself get yourself to that point that you just look at yourself in the and you could say, I love you.

1:19:36I'm so proud of you and everything will fall into place. I promise you. And also allow yourself to be seen, meaning like you're not going to find the person just being at home watching Netflix, but that doesn't mean force yourself to go golfing because that's where men are or going to the sports bar because that's where men are. Go do the things that you love that sparks, you know, joy in yourself. And then the universe will take care of the rest. Like go to yoga and maybe he'll be at yoga. Don't force yourself into the hobbies you think men like. Yeah. That's desperate. Yeah. I was thinking about that.

1:20:09Cause I was in, cause I used to do that. Same. I was like in Chicago recently. And one of my friends was like, we should go to a sports bar for dudes. I was like, why would I do that? Right. I don't like sports at this point in time. Why would I do that? Yeah. The other night I was with a guy and he was like talking about sports and I was like, wow, I haven't talked about sports in like 10 years. I couldn't believe it. I was like, I was kind of interested. I was like, what's going on with sports right now? Sports is all sports. Literally. It's all sports. No, literally. It's just sports, period.

1:20:34I was like, tell me about sports. He was like talking about basketball. I'm like, wow. Like, you know, because in LA, no one talks about sports. No. It's like all like trauma, spirituality. Spirituality, but yeah. Love. That's my boy. I know. So it's refreshing, actually. I know. But too much? I'm good. Yeah. Too much of anything is not good. Too much? You putting on the game after dinner? I'm good on all that. I'm good on all that. I'm going to wrap that up. I think that... You'd be surprised with the universe, how it will move to support you when you're ready. Really? Did you feel ready when he came in?

1:21:07I wasn't even worried about it. Yeah. I just, for the first time, for the first time, I wasn't. And by the way, he's six years my junior. And he's hot. He's hot. And he has a great job. He's a good man. Who knew? Yeah. Who knew? That's like, that was in my... Because did you let go of hot? I don't, I mean, listen, I feel like no matter what, don't let go of being attracted to your partner. 100%. You have to be attracted to your partner. Like seriously, let's not take that off the table. I know. And that doesn't mean you tell me. That doesn't mean that the person has to be attractive to everybody in the world, but they have, you have to be attracted to them.

1:21:48So no, I never let go of hot. I mean, trust me, I've dated people that I was like, what if I look sideways and squinty. Honestly. What if I just always wear sunglasses? Girl. Or like they, I remember there's one you'd like touch me. I was like, ah, he's just wilting. Cause you're just like, no. Oh God. Dating. I know. I've, I mean, I have, I have had some pretty gnarly bad dates. What's the worst? Oh, I don't know. This guy brought a flask to dinner and then I, I went to go leave him. He ended up marrying somebody famous. I ended up going to leave the restaurant and then he was going to a party.

1:22:27And I thought to myself, well, maybe I'll just go to the party and like meet somebody else. Which I said, I'll follow you to this party. He hit a car because he was drunk on the way there and kept going. Okay. I go to the party. Were you in the car with him? No, I was in my own car, like trailing him. So I go to the party. It was a banger of a party. But then on the way back down the hill, I stopped at that car. and I was like, excuse me, I hit you. Here's my name and number. And I left his name and number on the windshield. Oh my God, because he didn't stop. He never stopped. He kept going. Stop.

1:22:58Swear. Swear. And he ended up getting married to somebody famous and they had a horrible divorce. She said that he was like a narcissist and hit her in the whole thing. Listen, call me into that trial. I'll back you up. Yeah, you're like, I got you, girl. I can't wait to find out who that is after. I'll tell you later. It was wild. That was just one bad day. I mean, I've been on a lot of bad dates. I think the worst one that I was on was a bad third date. They were like, he faked it enough to get in a third date. And what happened? And the third date, I was like, okay, you can pick me up now. And in the third date, he was, asked me the most inappropriate questions I've ever heard in my entire life.

1:23:36Like sexual ones? Uh-huh. Oh, I hate that. It was honestly oscillating. I was oscillating between terrified trauma response because I didn't know what was going to happen next and I was in his car. Yeah. And like needing to lighten the mood and like be, it was just, it just reminded me of how many times women are in situations where they're just made to feel uncomfortable. Yeah. And then we have to be like, yeah. And I have to be, and I was just like trying to fuck around at the same time and like trying to end it. It was the, it was psychotic. I was like, wow, this is like the craziest thing I've ever heard in my life.

1:24:05It was someone that has an addiction or a problem. I was like, you have an addiction or a problem? And I don't know what we're doing, but the first date brought me flowers, brought me this like spiritual book, wrote me this like spiritual note. Like it was, it was insane. Like just only talk to me about like spiritual God stuff. And then like third date, it was like, it was crazy. Yeah. I think it takes a good four weeks to really start unlocking somebody who they really are. I completely agree. Yeah. That's why. Presenting lasts a long time. Yes. Yes. God. Yes. Talk to me about a high low life.

1:24:39I mean, I live a high low life because I, again, went through such a hard financial time that we didn't have the money to buy nice things, but I love nice things. I love a Ritz Carlton moment, but I also can say at a Hilton garden in no problem. And that's the, you know, that's sort of the juxtaposition of my life. But I do believe that you are allowed to splurge on things that make you happy, but that shouldn't be your whole identity because when it's your whole identity, that's just the veil. Wow. So it's like, also too, it's like finding and just going in for what you like. And it's like what I like and being present.

1:25:13Yeah. And for what you like, not because it's going to make you look rich or, but I like mixing and matching. Yeah. You know, you're good at that. I love it. I love a coupon. I love clipping a coupon. Wow. You do. Yeah. Give me a promo code all day long. Oh, I'm a promo code. Give me all your promo codes. Same. Me too. I'm trying all of them. I have, I have all, almost 30. Literally people like strangers will be like, I use almost 30 codes everywhere. I should just do almost 30 everywhere I go. I sometimes am I want to put them on honey so that everyone can use them all the time. Yeah. Why don't you should do like a little spreadsheet for everyone.

1:25:46Oh, we do have a partner's page. Okay, good. Okay. So favorite part of the show, your new show on Netflix. I think it allows me to show everything I'm passionate about because on HGTV for 15 years, I was on that network. It was all about decorating, but that's just like one slice of my pie. That sounded weird. No, I loved it. You're like one slice of my pussy pie. That's just one slice of my pie, baby. You're just starting a new trend where women are like, I'm going to show them all my slices of my pie. I love cooking. I love wellness. I love working out. I love spirituality. I love having deep conversations and I like tross pillows too.

1:26:22Yeah. So I get to like create a world and like a show that I want to watch. Yeah. And I know that there's not one episode where you won't learn something. I agree. Even if it's an entertaining tip or a spirituality, like thought that maybe you'd never crossed your mind. Yeah. It's a feel good show. And I think now with social media, TikTok, Instagram, anybody could post anything. Nothing is curated. The days of magazines where editors really made sure everything was legit, those days are gone. And I think we fall for some clickbait. And that's where I'm like going back to like the magazine, like everything is real.

1:26:55These are real experts in their fields talking about real issues and also cooking real meals that are good and delicious. Like I didn't know you cooked. I love to cook. Sister, I didn't even know you cooked. I mean, well, and you know, I can fix something. I fixed your lighting. Oh yeah. At my new crib. What was going on? You were there like the first week. All your lights were out. And then I fixed it. All my lights went out and she fixed my breaker. You know that I'm the real deal. No, you didn't. You know, no, no. You fixed the dishwasher. I fixed the dishwasher and your, the lights were out downstairs.

1:27:22Yeah, it was so hot. It was so hot. Look at that. I was acting like a little girl. It was fun. In my dumb dumb. See, you let me help you that day. I did. Oh, I'm available for help. Yeah. Not emotional though. We'll work on that. But I really loved the show because you're, I think, I know a lot of people in the entertainment space and in the public figure space. I think you might be the number one of people that are truly who you are all the time. Yeah, that was me in real life. Except maybe I curse more in real life. Maybe. Talk about penises a little bit more. Yeah. No, but it was really like, that aspect of you is amazing to me.

1:28:00Thank you. It was just fluid you the whole time. Like I loved the guests. Like I loved the mix of things. Like I felt like it was so helpful. Like it was just amazing. I'm so proud of you. Thank you. I love that it was your name too. And I know. And it wasn't redesigning. Can we talk about that? So it was supposed to be redesigning life. I was thinking that. And I, they were talking about calling it the Soto Show, which to me, it was like, what am I, a football player? But, and then everybody said, call it the Sabrina Soto Show. I'm like, that is so lame. That's so egotistical. Like who the hell am I to have my name on a show?

1:28:30but that was me not being in my, you know, standing in my worth. Yeah. And now I'm so glad. So I think people probably see it on Amazon and be like, who the hell is Sabrina Soto? But it's like, who cares? Just click on it. So you not putting your name is like not standing in your power and your worth. Because I was like, who, nobody's going to want to watch a show with my name on it. And I'm so glad that I didn't listen to myself. I'm so glad because I deserve it. 100 % you've been in the game for so long. The show is so you. Thank you. It was so good. It's so truthful. Thank you. It's very audience value focused because I'm so tired of watching something for half an hour and not getting anything out of it.

1:29:11Oh my God, I know. Yeah. What do you watch for half hour and hour and not get anything? Nothing. I only watch Golden Girls. I get something out of it every time. What do you get? Listen, I really do. The fact that they're 50 is It's so crazy. My nervous system gets calm every time I watch The Golden Girls. It reminds me of my childhood and I know what I'm getting. So it's like sometimes I fall asleep to that. Oh, I love that. What do you like watch all the time? I like The Office. Do you watch that like on repeat? Uh-huh. Yeah. And then I do I'm a Love is Blind person. I've never seen that show.

1:29:40Oh my God. Like would I like it? I like shows that are like I can be like psychoanalysis of it. Where I'm like, oh, their protector part came out and now they're trying to pull back because they got Freedom Intimacy. Like I love that. Does anybody actually work out on that show? Some have, but not ever. It's just too much. That's why I think with Love is Blind, they need support. They need support. You should be like a guest star in there. Oh, I would love to help them. You should be the host. I would love to take that hosting job. I was thinking about that with hosting. I'm like, I could be a host because I studied that, but I'm like, it's not deep enough.

1:30:14Yeah, but you could do something fun that is deep. I would need it to be deep. Well, you're going to be on the show. I tried to get you on season one. I know. We're going to be on the next one. Yeah. We're going to do something crazy. What are we going to do? Something crazy. Can we just do something normal? No. Okay. It needs to be crazy. These have a big splash. Okay. Where can people find you? Where can people connect with you? And then you have your book coming, which you're going to come back for the book. Yeah, but that's not going to be for another year and a half. I can't wait to have you write that.

1:30:39December of 2026. I can't wait. Oh my gosh. So Instagram, obviously, I read all of my DMs. And then you can watch a show on Amazon Prime, Disney +, Roku, Hulu, and Tubi. I watched it on Hula. You did. And it was so good. Thank you. Seriously. It felt like dropping into friends conversations. Like, I love you so much. I loved the Bobby Burke one. Thanks. I loved the Manifestation one. Thank you. Obviously. I loved the one with Michael Beckwith. He's the best. He's great. I couldn't believe he was in my house. I like could not believe he was in my house. And then my mom was, she decided in the middle of me interviewing Michael Beckwith, she needed to go smoke a cigarette.

1:31:15And then the alarm went off. I'm like, really, mom? You need to go smoke a cigarette right now? Oh, that's got a lot of layers to it. Literally. Okay, guys. I love you so much. Thank you for being a part of my life and community. Thank you for being a journey and a person on this conversation. I'm going to wrap it up now. I love you so much. Bye. Thank you, Sabrina. It's the Sabrina Soto Show. You can find her on Instagram at Sabrina Soto. And you can watch the show on Hulu and Prime. Thank you all so much for listening. Share this with a friend. If you love it, maybe you're going to do your own just kind of lifestyle style in inner and outer, uh, redesign, let us know about it.

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