823. Why You Feel Stuck—and How Spirit Is Asking You To Grow

28:07But like, you know what I mean? Yeah, totally. I feel so comfortable with myself and where I'm at, even though it's crazy and like I'm learning so much. It's like this feels good, you know, even when it's hard. So that feeling music definitely brings that to me. Like it's just it's so interesting to now understand like following that feeling rather than the purpose that you can like kind of show as an accolade. Totally. Yes, it does. But that is so powerful because you are aligning with good feelings. And you may not know exactly where it's going, but you're just saying, thank you for allowing me to continue on my path.

28:49And then you go, well, what's at the end of my path? And you're like, I don't know, but I'm going to feel really good about it. And I'm just going to align with feeling good. And like when you're having fun, things flow. Mm-hmm. Yes. When you're, I just want to like speak to these moments where you can speak to God, speak to your higher self, because I think, I think we forget that we can do that. I'm kind of reiterating on what that looks like for me in this season, as I step in to be like a bit more public facing with the book and everything. Yes, totally. Where I'm like, I need to be plugged into God.

29:30like, and I know I always am, but like really intentionally before I sit down for interviews, before we do press, before we do everything, like just remember and just be connected in an intentional way. I guess, how would you guide people to kind of connect with God's spirit, their higher self in those moments where we might feel really far from who we really are? I think that's so cool how you said moments, because like you were saying earlier, you used to do your work for two hours. You can put an alarm on your iPhone that goes off once an hour and it times you for 30 seconds and you just close your eyes and breathe for 30 seconds.

30:12Imagine doing that though, because no one really does that. What if you really did it? And just regrouped and regrounded just for 30 seconds. So I feel like, you know, to everyone listening, it's like you can do 30 seconds, guys. Unbelievable how it helps. Absolutely amazing. My daughter, someone just gave her this bubbles and they said, when you're feeling overwhelmed, just breathe in and blow a bubble. And that just regrounds and recenters you. But with what you're saying, going into press, spreading messages, right? And, you know, doing your work and doing your purpose. You know, every single person has a spark of the divine, and I call it God's spark.

30:57Every single person on this planet, that's why we are all one. We're all connected. One love. All those expressions we hear are so true because we all have this little energy that is God, right, within. That's why when you quiet the mind and go within, you're connecting to your intuition. Well, what's your intuition? Well, that's where God meets you, and your angels meet you and your loved ones who've crossed over meet you and your spirit guides meet you in the quiet. So the idea before you go into an interview is just go into your quiet. Take a deep breath and say, I'm only here for God. I'm allowing God to work through me to spread these messages.

31:36Quick mantra and just go in with your breath. Imagine a little spark. Imagine a plug, plugging you right into the divine, reground your body and just move from there. And it can be fast. It doesn't have to be long. It can be a quick moment. It doesn't have to be a five-minute prayer, I suppose. No, it doesn't. It doesn't. No, but I think we talk ourselves out of these moments because we're like, I don't know how to talk to God. That's it. You know, like all these weird things that our mind says, it's like, no, literally half a second. It's right there. God is right where you are. 24-7. It's just, are you in?

32:15Are you down with this homie or not? You know what I mean? It's like, just plug in right away, breath. It's enough. And that's the thing with working with spirit. It is a subtle vibration that you're tuning into. It's a subtle vibration. I always tell people in readings, they're like, I just need, I want to see my grandma. I'm like, no, you don't. You don't want to wake up and your grandma standing over you that crossed over. go in grandma's there just listen so many times spirit works with us through telepathically excuse me and and that's real so you know you can work with spirit in that way but when you're going in you're going into work you're going into target you're going into a long stretch alone with a baby ground down ground into the body temple allow yourself to plug in plug into spirit right where I am, God is.

33:06You know, I always say to myself, I'm only here for God. I love that. And I started using also, it's not fun. It's only fun if it's fun. Oh, yeah. It's only fun if it's fun. Like, oh, I hit that mic. Sorry. Like today on the train, I was like sitting there and I'm like, what is today? And I'm like, oh, this is fun. This is fun. And then I said to myself, well, it's only fun if it's fun. So just have fun. So you can align with good feeling as well. It doesn't have to be that like, God, you know, it doesn't have to be intense. Sorry, my friend. It can be just, it can be fun. Oh, here I am. God's working through me.

33:43This is such a great feeling. And God is using me. And God is clearly using you, Lindsay, because you wrote this book. You have thousands of hours of listening in to powerful messages. And now you channeled all that in a book. And people are going to have that in their hands and read it. So God is working through you. Yeah. Yeah, I feel that. You're doing it. I feel that. You're literally doing it. And yes, you do need to reground and rewrite your ship. You live in New York City. There's a lot going on here.

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37:33There's a lot. What do you feel when you, so you're in suburbs of Philadelphia, suburbs of Philadelphia. What do you feel when you come here? Oh, I'm so happy. Yeah. I'm like, get this mom out of the burbs, girl. I'm like, get me somewhere with good food and cool people. And I love where I live. And I have the coolest friends ever. Totally. But I love going out. I love seeing people. So what I do is I tune into her and I just completely shut medium door. And you know what? I have worked so long and hard on doing that. Yeah. And flipping out of medium, you know, and just working with that. So like, for an example, I'm sorry to my Uber driver today.

38:13He said, Oh, are you going to New York? You know, are you doing some work? And I'm like, and he's like, Oh, what line of work? And I was like, I'm a consultant. I just didn't want to go to her. I didn't want to go there. I know. And imagine go in, you know, and then he was going to be like, well, I had a friend who, you know, and, and I didn't want to go to her. And I said, well, I'm a consultant. And he goes, for what? And I go, small businesses. Small personal businesses. And he goes, what kind of like female owned small businesses? And he goes, oh, this is great because I'm opening a small business with my sister.

38:50Can I ask you some questions? They'll always find a way in. Oh my God, bless. And I'm just like, yeah. And he started asking me about like taxes and shit, which I know nothing about. I'm here for God. God, he's me. yeah and then the medium comes out let me channel how you're going to use your taxes but it was just so funny because I don't always want to go go in yeah even though I'm always in of course but I don't want to go in so when I'm in New York City I go I ground myself beforehand white light myself I also the only thing that I do do is when someone's walking very close to me I hold my breath.

39:25Uh-huh. Interesting. Why? Smell, energy, aura. I just kind of close like my nasal. It's weird because I've done that before with certain people. I just close because sometimes when people walk by, I get their whole whiff of everything. And I'm like, I don't want to do that ground. And then I'll just ground down. But I white light bubble myself. I just put myself in a beautiful bubble. I allow people to walk by me and I don't get all up in everyone's business. I just really ground. And I think when you start working with small moments more and more, it becomes secondhand. You don't have to do the hour meditation.

40:03Listen, people listening, if you're hour meditation, oh my gosh, great. It's not against that. But it is okay to have a shorthand with spirit. It's okay to have a shorthand with grounding yourself down. In fact, like that is so much what spirit teaches in readings is shorthand tools that if you actually practice them. They are miracles and it's amazing. Yes. I think too, when you reground yourself and you're not pushing yourself and you're not denying yourself and you move through these things, you actually create space. And I know it's very cliche, but you create space for shit to go down that you could not have planned.

40:39I know. I know. I think like our mind is so limiting. Yeah. You know, I think like this is my dream. That's it. You know, and like we go in that like very myopic direction. Yes. And it's like, well, God has like a vision and a plan that you could have never dreamed up for yourself. That's why like leaning in to him is just like so profound. Exactly. And it can be really challenging to do because we're afraid. Is this going to work out? Am I ever going to meet anyone? Am I ever going to be able to support myself? Those are such disempowering questions because what happens is if you're like, well, am I ever going to meet anyone?

41:18your mind goes, no, you suck. You're not lovable. And you're like, okay. And you sign that contract with yourself. Right? So those questions in itself can be so disempowering. It gives you shitty answers back. It closes the door. So instead it's like, I am going in with thanking my guides, thanking God for continuing to assist me as I walk on my path towards the person that I want to be with. And then think of the person you want to be with and think of just maybe giving someone a hug, they can be faceless and you're just hugging them and you're like, ah, this feels homey. And then you're feeling really good.

41:52And then all of a sudden you feel great about the person you're going to meet. Yes. And then when they come into your field, you can recognize when that's happening. No, that's a really good point. So the questions that you might be asking yourself when you're feeling stuck or lost could be the mind is going to answer in a negative way, most likely. And then that creates a contract that you're kind of like, well, that's my fate. That's it. That's what it is. Okay. This is a really, yeah. And then your soulmates sit next to you at, you know, a coffee shop and you're like, well, I'm never meeting anyone.

42:24And they're like, do you like pizza? And you're like, yeah, do you like pizza? And they're like, do you like puppies? And you're like, yes. Oh my God. It's like love is blind. Yeah. And your soulmates. And then you're like, but I'm unlovable. And I said, I wouldn't meet anyone. So we can do that ourselves sliding glass doors. Not everything is etched in stone. Tell them, say more about sliding glass doors. So destiny is real. Destiny is absolutely real. But I wasn't destined to wear this jacket. My cat fell asleep on it and I spent the train ride lint rolling it. That was not my destiny. But point is, is that there are certain blocks that we put in our destiny.

43:05Okay. Right? Right. So there are certain things and the rest is sliding glass doors. So much is choose your own adventure. Is destiny fixed? Certain parts of it. Yes. And then we kind of like position these blocks and there are sliding glass doors that can kind of lead us into crossroads. We're at crossroads. So there are things like people we're supposed to meet. Yeah. Yeah. But we don't, but we, we either meet them or we don't meet them because we're in a place where we're not recognizing that, that, yeah, we can miss it. Totally. We can absolutely miss it. Listen, I work with a lot of people that, um, have lost people to overdoses.

43:46A lot of people call me about overdoses and they're like, I guess that was their destiny. And not always say more, not always they're on a path. They're on a path. They are in pain. They are, or they're an addict, I'm going to say things that may offend people, but just know that I want to say all the things, but for lack of time, there's all kinds of reasons why people fall into addiction. And sometimes their path is to move through addiction and maybe help others along the way, even just in an AA meeting, if they're, you know, going to help someone there, right? It doesn't have to be on a broad spectrum.

44:21But point is, and sometimes we don't, we're not able to get on that healing path. We're at a crossroads. And I see that in people even that call me that are struggling. You know, is there a life for me? Absolutely. I can see down that tunnel of this life, but they're going to have to choose it. Yeah. And they may not. And then sometimes they have, you know, excuse me, die of an overdose. So it's a lot is choose your own adventure. It's not just like, well, my destiny is there. So bum, bum. Right. I talked to someone once. It was actually a friend. and he was asking me some questions about spirituality and spirit and destiny and working with spirit.

44:59And I started to get into it and he's like, you know what? I don't actually want to talk about this. And I'm like, really? Why? He's like, because I just want to wake up every day and go to the hospital. He's a marvelous surgeon and saves kids. And I just want to focus on that and then just have fun and be with my family for the rest of the time. And I'm like, you are the most spiritual person I've ever met because you found your purpose. And it's just that one thing, that one destiny, right? So he may be saving people that are going to go on to do things. He had to be in that position, right?

45:33So, you know, he had that one main destiny where he was men. And I'm sure he had times in med school where he wanted to give up. He could have given up. He could have missed that purpose, but he found it. And so he found that purpose and he just didn't want to, he's like, I don't want to think too much about spirituality. This is my spirituality, right? Totally. I'm like, well, hot day. I'm like, you have a good time. You've got the key. Yeah. Because I think we can kind of, this is a good segue into something I was thinking about where we make, I think the new age spirituality, we kind of make it the thing that either validates us, that saves us, that, you know, is our new thing to like worship and become obsessed with and become addicted to in a way.

46:23100%. A new way to distract us in some ways, depending on how you use it. Yeah, I've had, I've had experiences and then I've just witnessed, you know, people that I know and care about kind of like,

46:46it becomes less about like, it becomes more egoic. You know? Oh my gosh, I know so deep. It's very, it can be very shallow and very surface, very glossy. And I... And become about them. 100%. Even though it's like a facade of like, no, like it's about like either God or spirit or other. it's like a weird self-obsession. But I think some new age spirituality you could fall into. 100. And then they become very judgmental for others. They're like, well, I know this. I know the hierarchical thing. Yes. And I see that so much. And it's, you know, I fall in love with everyone I read for. So like when I go on and say hi to them at first, maybe our personalities don't gel.

47:35But the minute I go in and I'm going into my mediumship, I'm like, oh, hi. I love you so much, you know? And I mean that. And I truly do. And I have to because I go in with my whole heart and soul. But period. And people will sit down with me to do a reading and say, like, I'm going to be so easy to read. I am super spiritual. I am also going to be a guru. I am, you know, they're really like putting themselves at this level. I am not judging them, but I will go in as a medium. It's like they are literally like haven't even opened the door. They are just looking at the door. Yes. And then I'll read for someone like far away in Nebraska.

48:24You know what I mean? And they're just experiencing things and have gone through things. And I'm like, wow. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like one, if you ever, I'd love to meet you. You know what I And they have no ego. Spirit will come in and tell them, okay, here's your next on your path. You're missing this. And they'll be like, okay, yeah, okay, and write it down. Whereas other people that are, I am a guru, Spirit will try and work with them, and they're not workable at all. They don't want to hear this. Do they think they're working with Spirit? Do you know what I mean? They're fighting. They grapple.

48:59They fight with Spirit, and they think, no, I know. And I'm like, well, why did you call me? Yeah. Because I don't have any skin in this game. I tune in. I deliver the messages. They don't want the messages. They are not ready to hear the messages. Their ego is so fragile that hearing a message to put them on the right path is they're unable to vibe with that message. So they're just at the start. They're just at the start. And for me, the more and deeper I go on this journey, that going into like 17 years of reading, I'm like, oh, I am so, I have so much to learn. I know absolutely nothing. I know absolutely nothing.

49:39I have so much work to do. And also things have become so much lighter as I've gone. And I'm like, oh, this is fun. Tell me more about what that means. Like we were talking about before, you know, I think when we get into spirituality, it gets so heavy and so dark and so serious. And it's like, it's only fun if it's fun. And God is great. God is great. God is so good. And it is so fun. Now, when people are going through spiritual awakening, we go through immense darkness. I literally was in the bottom of a well for three days. It is dark. Oh, yeah. Like in my mind. Yeah. I was like, were you trapped?

50:17That's crazy. We need to talk about it. This is probably long before you, but in the 80s. Oh, no, that's a bad story. Well, there was someone trapped in a well. And it was the biggest news because back in the 80s. I feel like I remember hearing about that. Yeah, it was a baby. Why am I bringing this up? I apologize if she listens. It's okay. We love you. I'm very worried about offending people. Not really, but you know, there's. No, yeah, there's so much to be offended by now. And I say that with love. Oh, you can say the wrong thing. It makes me feel like a grandma. I'm like, back in the 90s, we could say that to people.

50:50It's true. But point is, is like you do, you know, how does a star shine bright? It's like in a very dark night. So there is heaviness and there is darkness. And then there's so much light. So it's that yin and yang and that balance. So as I go deeper into working spiritually, I'm like, oh, this is so light filled. It's so good. It's so light. And it can be light. And it can be two minutes before you do an interview to ground yourself. And that's just as juicy. Yes. the bottom of the well was when I was opening as a medium, I used to do house clearings. And I would also do distance house clearings.

51:27So I would go into that person's home, excuse me, in distance, and see what I was bumping into there. And I did a house, distance house clearing for someone. And I went into her daughter's room. There was a crib and there was a man standing over the crib, like an unhappy man. And I'm not a ghost hunter. Yeah, I'm not. I that scares the shit out of me when I that's a whole nother story. But when I was younger with ghosts, oh, I can only imagine a big one. But I can tell you about that because people love that story. Please. But I bumped into someone and kind of just worked with like, letting him go and moving him on, which I don't do anymore.

52:07And I came out of that. And I guess since I was so new, I didn't know quite how to ground. Or I think in order for me not to be afraid anymore, I had to see it. I had to see the darkness and what it felt like and what it looked like. So that when I see it in a reading or I feel it in a reading, I'm a very safe person for a person to read with because I'm not afraid. I know what it looks like and can work with it very easily. So I descended into darkness. And it's so funny because you know me and how grounded I am. I'm a mom. I'm a super grounded person. So these experiences still to me, I'm like, really?

52:46I understand if people feel skeptical, but I just saw myself in the bottom of a dark well and I couldn't get out everything. It was the worst, most horrific feeling I've ever felt. So I felt I could see no light. I could feel no light. My husband was like, let's go for a walk. We walked outside. It was pitch black at night, nighttime. And he was like, just let the sun hit your face. I could not see light. I couldn't see the sun. Wow. It was complete and utter. And this was after that reading? After that reading. This was in my earlier years as a medium. I'm still living in Los Angeles. and I just went descended into complete fear and darkness.

53:31It was the most horrific, all-encompassing. I just can't, there's no way for me to explain it.

53:43And I remember my husband being like, do you want me to come into the well? And I was like, sure. And you know, this story is also interesting because it's like, you need to get yourself out, but I think love is one of the most powerful things in the world. Yes. And he was like, I'm going to come to the well. And we sat down in crisscross applesauce. It's another term. Crisscross applesauce. Yeah.

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57:10I can picture it. I'm just showing my age. We're almost 30. It's like, this bitch is a little bit older than that. Okay. Anyway, so crisscross applesauce, we're looking, our knees are touching. He's like, what does the well look like? I took him down. It was dark. It was cold. It was awful. He went in there with me and he was obviously channeling spirit. And he said, just open your eyes and look into my eyes. And I looked into his eyes and I could see the light of his soul through his eyes. and he said like let's go out together and I followed his eyes and I just went in because I couldn't find the light in my soul anymore or in the world and so he let me kind of go in on his and we came out and I started to heal and recover from that whoa I know and now when he really annoys me I'm like damn it you took me out of a freaking spiritual well I'm like you're lucky you have pretty eyes.

58:04That's crazy. Yeah. And how beautiful. Yeah. Wow. Love is very, very healing. I think the idea that you have to fully be complete and love yourself 100 % before you can love anyone else, I don't fully believe because love is extremely healing. I think you have to be in a position where you're not going to damage someone else. Sure. And you feel like, you know, you can receive some love and give. But I think love is very healing. And so love got me out. Wow. And that's why I fall in love with every person I read for and just bring that light. And bring that light in. Does that make sense? Yes, of course it makes sense.

58:42It's so profound. The story you wanted to share about seeing ghosts as a little girl, because I think a lot of people have experienced that as a child too. So I, there's a couple of things that happened in the story that I was referring to. So my sister and I were both very like enveloped, engulfed, I should say, in ghosts and ghost energy, both very sensitive. When I was seven, we moved into a new house and I started seeing a little boy around the house. Okay. And a neighbor later told us, you know, a boy has drowned on this property, a little boy. And I still see him around when I go because my parents still live in that house.

59:25Okay. My mom and my stepdad. and we were a little bit older maybe i was nine okay 11 12 13 yeah nine or 10 and she's four years older five years older five years older and she purchased an antique ouija board from an antique store and we were like yeah totally let's scare the ever-living shit out of ourselves So let's go there. So we started playing with it. And it started answering our questions. It started telling us, like, we're like, who's going to call on the phone? It would spell out someone's name. They would call. It's before cell phones, so no one was texting, you know? Wow. And we were doing it one day on the driveway.

1:00:12And it was me, my sister, and like two of her friends. And we were sitting on the driveway. My sister was standing. and we started using the Ouija board and it started saying very dark things. And I looked at my sister and I saw her lift up and fly back and land flat on the pavement, flat. I saw a lift. Whoa. Yeah. And this is happening. This is not a vision. This is like It actually happened. She fell. Wow. Up, back.

1:00:51And, you know, people are like, well, wait, you don't deal in hauntings. You don't fully believe in hauntings in that way. Here's what I believe. I think about, because I'm a very visual person, I think like, you know, when you go to a party and there's helium balloons on the ceiling and all strings coming down? I think of the world like that with strings. And you can pull any thread you want. you want to pull a scary, haunty, dark thread, it's there. You want to pull love and light, it's there. You want to pull abundance, it's there. You want to pull connecting with spirit, it's there. And everyone has different talents and skills, of course.

1:01:29But we were pulling that thread. And that's what we were pulling to us. So everything is there. But where is your focus? But that was pretty bad. Wow. And my stepmom came home. So there was, so it's a, I guess the Ouija board, there's a spirit that kind of moves. You don't know. I guess. Yeah. I think we pulled a thread. I think we pulled some energy towards us. Yeah. I think we pulled some negativity in towards us. I think we pulled darkness in. I think, you know, it's different when I was going through a spiritual awakening because I was very close with my guides at the time. I still am. And I was working with them so closely.

1:02:08I think I had to be shown something. Totally. Oh my gosh. I wasn't, yeah, I wasn't afraid. But that was like haunting energy. So I remember my stepmom came home and we told her and she was just like, I'm so sick of this. And she cracked it over her knee. As you do. As you do. Yeah, she cracked it. And it's so funny because people that read with me or know me now are just like, you're so not into that stuff. And I'm like, I had to work through it. I had to work through it. Because I had to know that there is so much more to spirit than hauntings, than darkness, than fear. there it is it is so light yeah it is so light wow um just threw that one in there i love it it's juicy isn't it and it's really juicy was your sister scared yeah yeah yeah she was scared and it's so funny because i did a podcast with her recently cool she came on my podcast and we decided we were going to tell that story and as we told it the system we use riverside stopped working and logged us off.

1:03:09Of course. Did you get any message about that? I just got energy, energy of women sitting together and men, not, you know, but energy of women. I mean, it's even written in the Bible, not a religious person, but it's even written when several more people agree on things, you can, can bring that in or something. Right. So I think when you start to create hysteria, upset darkness, I think it grows very easily. And I think our energy together is so intense and it just fritzed it. Totally. It fritzed it. It's very witchy energy when you are blinking lights or fritzing things or right. So it happens and like, you know, I want to talk about that.

1:03:50We were, I think it was before we started, um, just that hysteria piece. Yeah. So maybe I notice it now, maybe since like 2020. Yeah. Um, where like there There will be things kind of inserted into, I don't want to say mainstream. I just want to say like the zeitgeist or like the narrative that like kind of floats around us, maybe particular groups or people, whatever. But for example, we were talking about perimenopause, a very real thing. Yes. And also, I feel like it's what everyone's talking about right now. Everyone. And we were just kind of like chewing on this because I think the conversation, much of the conversation is like, oh, very metaphysical going through it.

1:04:41And like validating that there's other people going through it. But also what's happening where we kind of take that on? There's like a heaviness to it being what we are. Yeah. and like our identity that like, yeah, I don't subscribe to just like putting something on like a jacket and just wearing it everywhere I go. Right. That makes sense. And your experience may be so different. Yeah. Right. And so like it's saying like, okay, this is a horror. That's going to be me. Sure. Right. And it doesn't always have to be. I think it's cool. Like, I felt like I want my husband to read about it. Yeah, totally.

1:05:20Just in case. Just so you have notes. Yeah. Yeah. Just so you have notes. But I hear what you're saying. It's like, does that have to be my only thing? Does that have to be me that's going through that? You know what I mean? At that time. And yeah, there is that hysteria. I think, you know, when we're thinking about like our 20s, that huge transition of like, who am I? And then in our 30s and maybe you're having kids and all the things. And I think when people are getting in their 40s and 50s, they're feeling that shift. And then there's that hormones on top of it. And they're just like, well, that has to also be recognized.

1:05:52And it can be very intense, but it's great that people are talking about it. It's so funny when I think about emerging 30-year-olds. I was thinking about that a lot on the train on my way here. And I remember in my 20s, and this just came up, so I wanted to tell you about it. I remember in my 20s, I was partying. And I started to, when I would get invited to a party or to go out, I would call my sister. This is different sister. And I'd be like, hey, so I got invited to go out and party. Like, do you think it's okay if I go? And she would be like, yeah, I think you can go. Like, what do you have in the morning?

1:06:33And like, I tell her, she'd be like, yeah, go, go have fun. And it was like, I think it was so like untethered at that point because I wasn't a teen anymore and I wasn't an adult and it was so untethered. So I was like, someone give me rules. Someone parent me in my 20s, you know? And so that's when we become that like inner parent a little bit. And I couldn't. I was like, can I go out and party and get crazy? Tell me it's going to be okay in the morning. Yeah. So I think, you know, when we're talking about perimenopause, just bringing it back, I think like there is that 40 something, 50 something where it's just like, can someone validate and tell me like, this is okay?

1:07:16And so I think that might be. Totally. And I think also when people were in their forties and fifties, they were like out to pasture. Like, do you know that golden girls were supposed to be in their forties? I know. You know what I mean? So it was very different. So I think. And I keep hearing that like, as I think I heard Maria Shriver say this, she's like better than ever. Like my life is, you know what I mean? I feel better than ever. My life is better than ever. I think she's 60. Is she something? Yeah. She's Oprah's best friend. Yeah. I love that they're best friends. That is a crew. Yeah.

1:07:51But yeah, I think like there's so much, the rewriting that has to happen at different stages of our life where it's like, yes, there are going to be things that generally are true and happen. And, you know, does it need to be that like out to pasture sentence or does it, or can it be kind of this next level of your relationship with your body or with your partner or with your, you know, it's just, yeah, there's so much opportunity. Yes. People want to hook onto something that is the transition at that time. So like in the twenties, what you're transitioning and hook onto that thirties. And I think perimenopause is helping people at that age kind of hook into this permission.

1:08:33Yeah. Cause it is kind of a dead zone. Yeah. Tradition, meaning, meaning we don't really talk about it. Right. So like, I think it kind of needed that a little bit too, because there is stuff happening. Exactly. Yeah. And so people want that permission. Like, well, this is a transition too. And we can put a face and a name to it. And it's like perimenopause. Right. Sorry to go down that rabbit hole. Sorry. No, it's important. It is important. You've done this for a while. People have grown with you. You are putting out things that I think can resonate with so many people. And it is important if you're an emerging 30-year-old to know that there's many phases in your life where you're emerging.

1:09:12And that's okay. And you're not stuck. And this is not the only time you're going to be emerging. And that there's many phases of life.

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1:12:59But that's a message I've been getting where it's like life is long. And I know life can end tomorrow, but there's just this feeling that I want to embody more of, which is life is long. And so I don't need to like do it all in my thirties, which is kind of the underlying feeling a little bit, which I know is not true, you know, but yeah, I just, I think we can liberate ourselves a little bit knowing that like our thirties don't need to be the time that we like, you know, get to this point in our career and make all the money. And, um, I'm trying to rewrite that part of my brain and just think of the possibility that like, maybe the thirties aren't that at all.

1:13:44maybe I'm meant to be home with my children more be in the home be with my family and maybe when I'm 50 I'm gonna like record my album that's it do you know what I mean I do know what I'm like why not and you'll feel you will feel so different when you're 45 yes then you do now but you're also like oh but it's still just me I'm still the same person you know what I mean it's still just me and I still love to sing and I want to do that. I couldn't agree more. I feel like for me, I started to be comfortable with myself when I turned 40. Oh, that's great. Love that. 100%. But I'm a slow bloomer in certain ways.

1:14:29Or a late bloomer. I'm a fast bloomer in some ways. Very, way too fast. I just think about like when I was younger, what we were doing, were so wild. There weren't cell phones. Anyway, that's a whole other podcast. Bless her. I remember I told my friend this the other day and she was like, this is the best story. I remember being at a roller skating rink. This was like the hot thing to do. Totally. And I was like in middle school and I remember being in my skates in the bathroom and watching myself smoke a cigarette in the mirror. I was in roller skates. And I'm so sure I was like two feet tall.

1:15:09Just like watching myself and like being in my skates and people coming in the bathroom like. That would have been so me if I like smoked a cigarette. Like I just loved the scene of things. Meaning like I think because I was in theater, I just loved. You were too? Yeah. Well, my mom smoked and she's so elegant. She's from Sweden and she's beautiful. And she was like with her Marlboro lights and I would steal them and go to the roller skating rink and like watch myself in my skates. So, but so I was like a fast bloomer, but also a slow bloomer. And I think I lived like a very child, like kid life for a really long time.

1:15:51So I kind of late bloomed, but when I hit 40, I was like, oh, okay. This is what it's about. I get her a little bit more and she's continuously changing, you know? What is your, as we round out, I would love to just like catch up with you in terms of like, how has what you're doing in the world as far as your work

1:16:15influenced your family and just kind of what's happening at home between you and your husband, between you and your kids? Like, I'm just curious what that looks like. Yeah. I mean, I think, you know, in terms of work with my kids, like I, you know, people ask like, gosh, do your kids ask a million questions and this and that? And like, I think working with my kids, we go at the pace that's appropriate for their soul to process. And when they ask me questions, we just go at an appropriate pace. I don't do not put things on them with spirit at all. Right. And so my son will ask questions and we talk about it and he's very attached to crystals.

1:16:53So I think he puts some spirituality on crystals because that's very tangible. So we go slow and I don't put anything on them at all. But we talk. I think with my husband, I think marriage is a spiritual practice. One of the greatest. I really do. I think it is a spiritual practice. And I notice a lot of young people getting divorced, which I think some of it is like, oh, I have the ick. Goodbye. I don't like you anymore. I do. I think that is some of it. I totally agree. I think some of it is really admirable because they're like, oh, I'm not doing this for another 30 years. This is not a match.

1:17:30And so I really admire that. But I think there's also a component of like this sacredness in committing to something, whether you're married or you're in a committed relationship. And I think what I'm engaging in with my husband, Jeremy, is sacred. I think it's one of the hardest things I've ever done and one of the best things I've ever done. So I think my spirituality is just putting into play in these relationships. I couldn't agree more. And making that as harmonious as possible. And I bump up into parts of myself that I don't like all the time in my responses or lack of patience. So that is spiritual for me to reflect on that.

1:18:10Because what good is a spiritual practice if you can't use it in your life? I know. What good? And a lot of people don't. I think that's kind of like the, that point where you can kind of go down a path and using what you've learned spiritually and continue to like nurture spiritually, you can create a beautiful nourishing life. It doesn't mean it's like void of challenge, but it's like so rich. And then there's the, I don't practice what I learn or preach. And it can be really painful, really painful. I completely agree. And I allow space for people to work on things. I had a teacher that I really cherished and liked and was following very closely.

1:18:54And I met someone that they were friends with or they were friends with their children. And this person was like, oh, you follow blah, blah, blah. Oh, my God. When I was growing up in their house, like he had so many different women in there all the time and was this. And I was so heartbroken and so disillusioned. And I realized, but why? He's not preaching to be perfect or that he's perfect. He is working on things. So I implore people to give others grace. And if people are working on something, they're putting it into practice. And therefore, you can give yourself grace. I am putting this into practice.

1:19:37I am not a guru. I am not a master of spirituality. But I am putting things into practice. Yeah. Yes. So good. This has been a blast. I had so much fun. I'm so glad you're here in person. I could go on for four hours. I don't want it to end. I know. Thank you for having me. Oh, my God. You're so welcome. Trusting me with your beautiful listeners at this amazing time in this journey with everyone who loves and adores you. Thank you for trusting me to be here. Oh, yeah. I trust you implicitly. And I just love. Yeah, there's something that happens when we're together. I know. It's kind of fun. Whatever ride we're on, we're not getting off.

1:20:15I know. Jamie, we're not getting off. And we have surrendered our relationship in some ways. We're like, we're supposed to hang out. I know. How? I know. And then it just, it flows. It's really special. Really, really special. Thank you. How can people connect with you, work with you? what is your like capacity right now? Yeah. So they can go to Erica, Erica Gabriel.com. It's E R I K A G A B R I E L.com. And you can follow me on Instagram at spiritual medium, Erica. And online on my, um, on my website, I have some online courses and tools. I have things that are three weeks. I have things that are five weeks.

1:20:55I have things that are two hours on there. So one of them that's really great right now is connecting to your intuition. It's a three-hour workshop. You own it forever. You can pause it. And people have had really incredible results because when you sit down and say to the universe, I want to connect with my intuition, you're already doing it. And so these are tools to enhance that. So you can work with me that way. You can reach out if you want to have a reading, but get ready. They're not for the faint of heart. I know. Amazing. I love you dearly. Thank you, you too. Thank you all for listening.

1:21:30We'll see you on the next one. Bye.

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