841. The Great Timeline Divide: Why Some Are Awakening—and Others Are Atrophying

28:56it. That I think we can all see happening. And what do you think is triggering that? Is it the food? Is it the media? Like, is it the perfect combination of all of it? That's just making us kind of be sitting in front of screens all day, consuming, consuming, consuming, and little creatorship. Yeah, but you know what, when I'm tuning in, it's really the food the most. What What I'm noticing is that the stuff inside the air, the body mind is having with the natural upgrades that we're receiving. We receive natural upgrades. And then it just depends on the quality of us engaging and interacting with that.

29:36It will deepen. It will strengthen that upgrade. It could also be very ungrounding and overwhelming for people if, once again, that internal preparation or unawareness is not there. but our natural upgrades i see um now are having a filter for whatever's going on in the air and what used to be going on in the air was actually one of the largest blocks or stressors and you'll still see kind of like that residue inside our current timeline of things that were very true and relevant in other timelines um where people were like in the air this and this and that yes in the air but actually with the upgrades we're receiving that's less of the issue it's actually now the things that we are responsible for the things like we have a choice whether we want to acknowledge that or not on what we put in our mouth and so food is acting right now like processed foods all that stuff and this is not coming from a stuck-up place this is coming from very much uh the level of discernment and a lot of love to say this because you could always sound however you sound for talking about food but honestly, because of the amount of love I have for humanity, I will look this way.

30:51Foods acting as a very hard stressor for us to be able to process things clearly. And keeping us from like finding our truth and our alignment. Yeah, because it's causing a lot of neuroinflammation, a lot of degeneration, actually. Yeah. Confusion at a cellular level. Yeah.

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34:48And that is basically making us passive and just consumeristic and kind of be in the spell and you use the word spell, which is so appropriate for that. Can you talk about how it is kind of a spell and is it keeping people asleep or unconscious or what's it doing? Yeah. So the food I would say is like a major contributing factor to it. Also exactly what you said, it's screen time and the level of kind of like openness that we allow things. What I see in 2025 the most is a new stressor. It's one that has not been present before, although we've always gone to conflict. Conflict's not new. In 2025, we have rage baiting.

35:30Rage baiting is actually causing people's frequency to become very low. And then I would even go as far as to say that rage baiting is the number one block in 2025 because it's something that we are becoming addicted to. We are becoming addicted to the things that started off as neuroinflammation, now we're looking for. We're looking for that and we're attracting that and then we're reinforcing that with our decisions because there is so many things that we can focus on and be super polarized and angry about. And so what the powers that were, as I call them, do is they always look for some sort of organic wound going on, something that's already happening That's a conflict.

36:16And then they go, they focus on that. And then they like to, they like to fuel that so that it becomes something that you could call manufactured at that point. And so one of the biggest things actually is being able to take back our power by taking back our perception, staying in a unified awareness. That does not mean that other people are right. Sometimes we like to go into the middleman. The middleman is where we look at whatever's going on within our personal life or outer life, and we like to split it 50-50 down the middle. I wish reality worked that way. Instead, what it's about is just looking for our own organic judgments, looking for our judgments, looking for our part in anything, because not everyone is operating with the same level of karma or the same level of consciousness.

37:13So we don't have to lie to ourselves about that. But instead, it's always coming back to personal accountability, personal responsibility, and seeing what the lesson is in anything. Because what's happening from 2025 moving forward is that the environment, shall we say, that is acting as the catalyst for this spiritual growth is going to double down on rage baiting. You don't feel like that was in 2020? I feel like it was like all started i feel like that was so bad oh yeah no like conflict is organic yeah and we will go to conflict we'll even create it without anyone there causing it for sure yeah but when we see stuff like that happen especially as big that was such a profound awakening point that was that was so profound and so that one could definitely look at that and say oh for sure that was rage baiting but that was so much more than that yeah it was that was a part of dark magic that was a part of timelines yeah creating timelines moving forward you want to talk deep right yeah that was grooming interesting and that's why after that I came out with my videos.

38:27And I, for the first two years came off super intense, but it's because 2020 was grooming. So I'm not there to be nice and likable. I was there to share what I needed to share. And so I've even lightened up. I was I was a whole piece during that time you didn't want to be next to me at a party I'd be like have you heard of the queen literally I'm like moon's not real like I would I was on a tear because you're just like what was crazy about that time is that it everything hit me like truth that's what was so weird is it was like the reality that seems so not reality feels the most true. And then the reality that I'm in feels the most not true, you know, the organic person.

39:24And I was just like, wow, this is like everything. It would be very dark. Like a lot of it was a lot of recognizing a lot of darkness, but it felt peaceful to recognize. Cause then I understood. Does that make sense? Absolutely. I was like, oh, this feels peaceful, even though it's incredibly dark. Like it didn't scare me, it felt liberating to know because then you could kind of know what was going on a little bit under the scenes. Yeah, no, I completely agree. I've always felt like reality was sketch. So I've said this before. I didn't choose the esoteric life. The esoteric life chose me because when you find relief from hearing out horrible things, that just shows you how much your subconscious is, you know, it didn't come in in its first rodeo.

40:09Wow. That is such a good point. Yeah. It was like, I was like, oh, I understand true evil and understanding true evil helps me understand true light and true choice. And what a time like that was like, I had woken up more in like 2012, princess Diana kind of woke me up, which is hilarious at a young age. I remember, you know, some other things. I just was like, whoa, but that was probably the biggest of, of them. And then it was also like, I was reading law of one and I was like connecting with, you know, it would, it just, it was like a fascinating cosmic time and timeline. How do you think those, do you feel like in the 2020 to 24 timeframe, was there multiple timelines that were kind of available or what do you think was happening?

40:53Yeah. And so one of the biggest things, and I think this does go back still to episode two, weaponize reality was that did you hear how the administration at that time kept saying different trajectories kind of like well we might be in quarantine for another year or another whatever these are all spells and then so what happens is is that you put out as many different things as possible for a few reasons one you put one out to repeat repetition is the way that a person becomes conditioned, just like how we create positive lifestyles and set our life through repetition. Same for it. So one of those to repeat things of a hopeless manner, even though the story was changed here or there and there.

41:40Two, it was too confused because when you say one time at one thing, like, oh, well, we might be in quarantine. Who knows? We're in the next three year or this or that or whatever the thing was that was being said by the administration. what also happens is there's a sense of powerlessness hopelessness and futility so then we start going more into our reptilian brain rather than our neocortex which is how we can function as the adult i call the neocortex the adult it's the philosophical mind and it will be the first to go when it's under a lot a lot of confusion and fear so we start going down into a child go what and so so many different timelines and things were just said and said and said to create confusion repetition and hopelessness and that's kind of like a a sick form of metaphysical gasoline for those timelines were you surprised by what was happening or did you see it oh no I wasn't surprised yeah so around that time frame there was a few other kind of like competing theories of what would happen and so it's kind of like um it's kind of like when you see one of those tarot cards on Instagram that has all those different it's like click on it yeah yeah yeah and it's like what do you get and I'm like click click yeah it was like that it was like that was competing with a few other ones so when that came I was like well at least it wasn't the one with the chip yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you're like at least we didn't get implanted because the 10 years before it was chip gonna have in 2020 do you think chip will happen no not on the timeline that I'm at interesting when we talk about in episode two there's also the concept of the matrix which I know and you know enough to be dangerous about but for anyone that's new to the concept of the matrix.

43:34What is the matrix? Are we in a matrix? Are we all in different matrices? What do you think? Oh, how intuitive of you. This is literally what we flush out fully in season two. So the matrix itself can be looked at as duality. So we're like inside an environment of duality and then free will and awareness is what can shift your personal matrix into one that seems more organic or one that seems more like traditionally how the matrix was presented to us, more synthetic, more kind of like this program that we're stuck in. But really, there's always the opportunity for liberation, shall we say. It's just done through spiritual sovereignty, which is why that's so important, why that's one of my core teachings.

44:24and so the matrix is duality people I think see it as like a system that imprisons people and keeps them small and asleep would you say that's true yeah right because it runs that system or what is that so I call it service to self groups um because I really gravitate to how the law of one and when I say law of one the law of one came around before the book the law of one so as the law of one um perennial wisdom shall we say there are um two major pathways one that is service to all i'm renaming it service to all that's what they meant oh that's cool yeah they it was too confusing for us to receive it as service to others so it's just service to all that's less confusing that's a good one and then service to self.

45:20And so when we see reality through that duality, once again, then what we're doing is understanding that there's service to self groups. If we try to bypass that, it doesn't change our reality. So it would, you know, the quicker or the more in alignment we come to that within our own time, everything else will start to lay out more clearly. And so with that, what we see is that But in a duality matrix, we have free will, but there's certain parameters. And so regardless of whether some of us believe that we opted into that with our free will beforehand, or some of us feel like we got a raw deal and we were duped.

46:05And I hold space for both of those. So I come from both of those. I'm, you know, I resonate most with Gnosticism. Gnosticism is hardcore. core it's like it's like look this place is a trap let's figure it out and then it's always you know from there it's great to really be able to hold those codes because there even if you grow out of that you still have the ability to help people hold space for that whereas where we see a lot of times people just shut that down and that's not really helpful or useful and that's not a good teacher so what this matrix is is really the ability to have different levels of severity and when it's at a very severe level and not like an empowered creator level that's when we start seeing things in esoteric teachings like man is trapped man is a machine man it has no awareness like these are vital and i know that that might not be like really loving on one hand but that's super, super loving if that's the level of awareness and that teaching will trigger a person into becoming more aware.

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50:44so fate which is kind of like the lesser form of destiny fate is what you came in with it's the things you can't rearrange you have to develop free will within the garden or the parameters of fate but they were never meant to be against each other and so um and it even took me just because as as literally as hardcore as i am i still have this beautiful like childlike innocence where I go, oh no, no, it was misunderstood. So it took me a while to actually realize that it was manipulated. Uh, free will is trying to be stripped out of everything. I just thought it was like good old fashioned human error, right?

51:27You want to go to human error before you go to like deception intentional. So, um, what, what actually happens is, is that fate and free will work together. You cultivate more free will within the parameters of fate. And there's actually not a fight. And when you do that, you enter into destiny. Destiny is the best way I could describe destiny is imagine there's a sea of movie scripts and all of those different movie scripts are different versions of you and how your life plays out. Destiny is the movie script out of all of those. That was the director's cut. The one that goes, wow, that one was the best or the winner.

52:10So, um, without, you know, objectifying it too much destiny is optimal. It's what we would consider like the optimal, uh, the optimal timeline, the optimal version of us. It's like the marrying of, yeah, I feel like it was, I felt like on my soul's path, it was almost like it was free. It was, it became free will when I became conscious. And then I had aspects of my path that were fate or that were set as fate, but it was like fate was writing me until I became conscious and then I became a creator that could choose. And then it's like, okay, now I actually have the free will to choose what I want.

52:47But until then, there was like a script of the unconscious, you know, the script that was playing out. Um, and I think it's interesting how sometimes, you know, when I was younger, it would like keep me up at night. I was like, free will, you know what I mean? And then now I'm like, don't care. No, I'm like, whatever. I'm like, do with me what you will. Yeah, but that's another thing. Free will gets confused as being defiant towards a divine will. Yeah. And that would be almost if we... I think that's in Christianity too. Yeah. And so when we look at free will as in rebellion to divine will, that would be kind of maybe the first layer.

53:31If we go even deeper into free will, what we see is that that's how we become equal. and equal not in a way where it's move over higher self. I want your job now. I don't want my higher self's job. It's becoming equal the way that the higher self had always intended for us to evolve, which is through embodiment. And so in unity consciousness, and even with free will, there's so many ways that we can take a concept to mean something either hyper vigilant or hyper-independent when in reality free will isn't neurotic like that free will isn't like that there's no higher self or a higher will and that it's in collaboration with our level of awareness it's more in harmony working together and so if free will meant let's say a really bad example that's neurotic I choose what I wear today and then I do that and then now we've just collected more neurosis for our mind.

54:32That's not free will. Free will is being able to create spaces inside our sleep state. Our sleep state is what's automated. Our sleep state is what we think is our voice in our head. It's all these things that happen when we're sleepwalking, when we're in a lower consciousness state and very insecure and ruled by any force that comes through because we have no internal fortitude. So even destiny isn't something that really arises in a person's life. It's more like this vague potential. But once a person decides with their own free will, no, I am here for some sort of reason, even if I'm not. And I will make meaning even if there's not.

55:18Then what starts to happen is this muse called destiny starts arising. So esoteric teachings don't even teach that everyone has a destiny. It's more so something that becomes more relevant, something that becomes more real, the more that we become more real. Wow. I know in Christianity, in the Bible, it talks about how Lucifer, who was God's favorite angel per se, turned against God. And it was he who that created free will, which is the absence of God's will. So in Christianity, it is the kind of God's will is almost at odds with the defined, like God's will is almost at odds with free will because it's outside of God.

56:03So I think that's also in that sort of lineage has that belief. Do you believe then that there's collective timelines and then there's individual timelines and how do those play out? Yeah. So a person's individual timeline can play out massively different than a collective's but also an individual person's timeline could be fueling the momentum for a larger shift in the collective and that's really what we've seen we've seen that it's grassroots consciousness right and it wasn't always perfect there's many things I could look at in the past and laugh at myself for like you need to care about this and being like oh I've been an activist my whole life my whole life about like I just had I bleed care and so um was that always kind of like the best route for something while I look back and I say it was the best route for me for becoming my version so maybe it had to play out and that's what we see on the collective level we see a lot of things happening collectively that if we can hold space for, it's maybe necessary experiences for them to be able to grow into them and not necessarily about the action that's being done at that moment, but the intention behind it.

57:20And so that's really what I see. I see that there is the collective timelines that are playing out and how the individual ones feed into those will really determine what direction those go. But as I said, the bifurcation is what's happening because within the choice of awakening, there's many different timelines. And within the choice of not awakening, there's many different timelines. But if we were to put them in two categories just for the sake of simplification, there's a lot of different ways those could play out. and they're depending on what that person's own ability and growth is doing.

58:06So it's less about the actual action and more about the intention and how aware a person becomes by taking those actions. Does that make sense? Yeah, that's how they interface with each other. It's that people themselves, the fact that they care about something because somebody told them to, that might be great you know like we have to care about pans I I care deeply about pans no one would ever know that about me I actually care a lot about her partner's here she's like that bitch won't shut up about pans oh she was talking about pans on the way here love what was the journey what was the discovery color she she wanted to know do we have enough pans stop are you guys bakers?

58:50No, I don't. I don't like cooking at all. Wait, that's amazing. We just want to make sure that we have enough healthy pans. But I'm also at a point in my life where I could care about that, even though I hate cooking. Totally. You're like, you know what, honey? Yeah. You're like, we need to care about them pans. How do you balance, I guess, your esoteric spiritual side and then your very human side? Do you find yourself oscillating? Do you feel like it's all the same experience? Like a lot of people in the audience are deeply spiritual, but yet are in the human experience and do you find yourself having very deep mystical moments at times and then very human like what's that journey one of the beautiful things about esoterica is it really deflates you and i know that that can sound weird because there's so much inflation in it but actually it it it holds a beautiful balance point and to go through levels of, let's say, great kind of like powers of any kind, the right way, the right way, there has to be an utter humbling, utter deflation of sense of self.

1:00:00And so there's always kind of like this, this kind of like building up of the castle, a sandcastle of of self while also um just completely shoving the castle all the way down into emptiness and so because of that i don't see my humanity different from my mysticism at all because i don't view me as being dual to that level of severity anymore like i'm utterly human and I don't even think about that. And I think that that is the number one reason if there was one compelling reason, there was many, but if there was one compelling reason I took this path, it was for that piece. It was a piece of just being ordinary.

1:00:48But knowing that that's deeply intense and rad. It is very rad. Yeah. Rad for me. Because the mind always needs to think of itself in all of these different fantasies and that's what creates suffering. if you if you can admit your utter ordinariness then you could admit your specialness yeah i think too the the grip on specialness is also and then the specialness could go there's a fear of special because the suffering comes with specialness could go away or not be perceived by someone you know like why does it why is it hard to be perceived? Why is it hard to be ordinary? I think specialness creates meaning from life for me.

1:01:31It's like, oh, if I'm special, then this is this thing. You know, if there's meaning in everything, then this is, it creates a more electric human experience of like, whoa, this is happening for this and this. And I'm like, ordinariness. And it's interesting. I think I brought it up before, but it's like I grew up Catholic. And I think there's a ordinariness that feels like punishment and it feels like I didn't come here to not experience magic or mystery or all these things and growing up in the church you kind of see lack of specialness as a punishment and

1:02:09yeah no that makes absolute sense I had utter shame for growing up poor like utter shame and my brother didn't care at all he was just running around happy being poor I had like utter shame and So I would even examine at a very young age, like five, I'd be like, why do I have so much shame? At five? Yeah. I'm obsessed. I don't know. I just, all I, all I was, was existentially paralyzed all the time. Like I could, like when I saw other kids, my age talking, I saw them in their character. I don't, whatever, shall you? And I was almost envious that I couldn't go into a character and that I was just always kind of like aware.

1:02:49and I would see them interact and I would just, I would watch. So anyways, so yeah, I guess that was a total humbling just on its own without me having to make myself ordinary. It was just growing up utterly poor and having a lot of shame from that. And so, but beyond that, like invoked intentional ordinariness is actually a deep sign of maturity. And I'll give you an example. You said something right now and I forget exactly the context but it was so on point we want when we become more spiritual to kind of talk about it or at least have other people recognize us as that so we want to control somebody's perception of us or at least just be respected even if we're not controlling we just want respect okay so actually a sign of maturity is reversing that and this is something I practiced even before I became publicly visible and a public figure.

1:03:48I would practice, let's say when I would go to my local coffee shop and somebody wouldn't see me or they totally, I could even see maybe they projected me as some sort of stereotype, is not taking it personal. You know, like it's my life is so fascinating because I could go on stage one second and people are clapping for me and raising their hand to ask me questions. And they traveled from over the world to come see me there. And then I could go literally that night, the same night to the grocery store and the cashier won't even look up or even care. And so I think a really high level of maturity is not always get needing everyone to see you the way that you want to be seen as spiritual or whatever it's just like you're an ordinary npc in that person's life they were thinking nasty thoughts about you as you were waiting for coffee they typecasted you you picked up your coffee you left and a story I haven't had a phone for a week and I was working out and I haven't been working out the gym without my phone.

1:04:55And I was just like, it was so weird. Cause I was like, I messaged my partner. I was like, I think I'm an NPC because I was just like, I was just like at the gym, like no music, just like doing my thing. I don't know where my mind was, but I was like an hour and a half just passed. And I was like, now I leave the gym. I was like, now it's time for me to go. I was like, he's like, I think that's actually very anti NPC, but I was like, it felt like an NPC. Like I felt like, you know, sometimes you're just like, I don't know where the hell I'm going in this reality. I think too, when I see people, I had to learn because I'm, yeah, I had to learn.

1:05:30I don't look, I look at people, but I cannot tune into anyone's energy. I can't, you know, if I'm at the barista, I cannot read anything about what's going on there. Like I cannot pick up on what they're thinking, what they perceive of me, what they project of me, because that just made me insane. for so many years of my life, like walking around being like, oh, they think this of me, or they perceive this, or they're thinking about this, or they're thinking about this thing. And so I had to turn off my like psychic senses to like most people and just kind of be in my own experience open to what they have, but not reading them.

1:06:05That's absolutely vital. Yeah, we don't actually need to read everyone. You know, like, of course, if we're in danger or of course if we want to have people a part of our life or for specific context but especially inside the situation that you gave that is very normal i um have trained myself to just kind of like go more into my own creative world out in public so that because the way that I receive information is so kind of like invisible that I'm only now in my life learning that like I can I can like a radio station control that invisibility. Totally. For people there's a lot of women here that have a lot of gifts and they are just starting to get aware of them or wanting to tap in to use them more what would you suggest for them?

1:07:03I would say validation. because even if a person feels like maybe not every necessary thing that they're thinking or believing or whatever needs to be validated, it is still, that's what a practice is, right? A practice is something that is a little extreme. And that doesn't mean that that's always going to need to be the case. But for a good practice, I would say doing any form of mirror work where you're just validating stream of consciousness things, because the number one block to a woman having more access to her innate intuitive capabilities they're really innate especially a woman um is the the doubt and the fact that women specifically um are more in their mental looping they're more in their mental looping when they don't feel safe to be empowered in their body and the middle man between that is the voice so the voice is the thing that makes them not feel safe goes more into the head but then they're just like uh theoretical they're they're living out theoretical things when they're not embodied and so what can help all of this whether you know like the voice the body and the mind would actually just be first like the resting place of of validating a person's experience because that ends up stockpiling as a bunch of doubt.

1:08:33And then that doubt ends up running in very mysterious and symptomatic ways. What's one thing that you're seeing in the collective, like questions that your audience is asking you or conversations that people are having that you're really, you know, you feel like you're tuned into right now. Like what is a lot of your audience really struggling with? my audience is so lit i'm sure my like i love my audience they are they're just like me actually so one thing that they struggle with is really being able to find connection because they're already like very intuitive and they've already accepted a lot of life.

1:09:21There's so many times I want to do a topic on something, but it's just not, it's going to like lower their vibe and I won't do that. So I'm like, okay, that might be a really popular topic in the mainstream, but that's not a topic for my audience. And so with them, what I would say the next step is, and something that they always seek is more people to really be able to mirror to them how advanced they are. They don't have sufficient mirrors. And when you don't have a sufficient mirror and you go your whole life and you never see your reflection, that's so sad because, you know, that's great that I'm so blessed for what I do and what I can do.

1:10:03But also, I don't want that at all to kind of like make a person feel just because they didn't have adequate mirrors that they are you know still reaching for that sovereignty when they're clearly already in that vibration and and they're really advanced but they just never had that like really boots on the ground ability to have honest connection with each other yeah it's that's what I found in my work. So I'll do work with women and retreats and stuff. And I'm like, it's funny because they'll come and they'll be like, yeah, you're amazing. But man, meeting the community, you know, whenever they get with one another and connect with one another, it's like the most powerful thing.

1:10:50And I think I'm so grateful for my mirrors, but I think in life when you don't have that, it can be very lonely and it can really stunt your growth in a way, you know, for things. So how would they call in those sacred mirrors? I completely agree. I think it's at the point where it's stunting people's growth now. And I feel like the more we're able to create different spaces so that people have the opportunity to meet. I have soul gatherings. I haven't done one in a while because I've been busy cultivating my other projects. But the soul gatherings came from all the clients who I work with that had their number one issue be that they don't have any friends or support.

1:11:33And so, but the more that anyone can just create those opportunities, right? And then it's up to the person themselves to put their self in front of beauty, go out of the way to find those opportunities. But that's also actually one of the other reasons why I felt like my partnership with Gaia was so vital for my next step of my own growth. It's because they already have embedded within their own network uh open and willing community and so that's actually what people need now we are moving out of the age of information for the most part and now we need to you know move from practice from theory into practice you know like being human with each other while we're, you know, very aware and buying pans.

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1:16:25But I was thinking about that because I work with people and I'm like, you know what though, it's not that people don't need more information on what to say or how to say it, but it's like they need the embodiment of because, you know, in a relationship, you could have a fight, but it's not you knowing the perfect thing to say. It's you being able to be in your body and regulated in your nervous system enough to say the thing to your partner. And so it just was showing me that chat GPT and AI kind of is keeping us a little in the age of information still, because it's just more and more and more information that people are getting.

1:16:54But it's not giving people the true embodied experience experience of living in the knowing or having the the actual earned wisdom, you know, that we need as humans. Yeah, so it's an experiment and it's also a product. So we need to remember that when we're engaging with it. So it's a product. What does that mean? That means that it's programmed to keep us just like how any app, how long can I keep you on it? It's a product. and so um it's not coming from no alterator motive and it can't and no matter how much we want to project it to be this real you know Pinocchio thing that is you know fully in its integrity and can be everything that we had not experienced yet inside this you know model um it's a product and then also it's an experiment and so what we're seeing is one thing and so I always go to the opposite extreme of what I believe because that helps keep me in my integrity.

1:18:01That also confuses me drastically, but that's also where you grow through confusion. So where I go in the opposite, because I could tell you like 20 things right now why I don't have chat GPT. I don't think a spiritual teacher should. So I think once we start going down that road, that's actually the synthetic timelines. But if I were to look at something completely opposite of me and go play the devil's advocate, Sarah. Why, when would it be good? I would say if somebody was narcissistically abused and they can't trust people anymore, and then they had this thing where they could potentially repair it, even if it was through delusion, even if it wasn't perfect, even if it was all of these negative things, if they were maybe perhaps able to have any form of connection.

1:18:51And then if somehow the universe intervened at that point and was able to transition them into another next level of support, because what you'll always see is that in life, you never stay in one place. Things change. There was a point in my life where I couldn't afford, you know, the types of books that I have now that I don't read. And now I just buy them because I, I could, I can, and I like books. But at the time I would read off of PDFs that were free on my phone. And if I was rejecting that, then I wouldn't be accepting of the parameters of what life was showing me at that time and just deal with it.

1:19:29And so I would read off of that, but guess what life did? Life saw I was trying. So life threw me the next rope. Life will always throw you the next rope. It will always throw you the next rope. It's, can you deal with whatever limitations life is showing up with now and can you work within them? And so because of that, let's say now I'm extending that to somebody who's using chat GPT as therapy. On one hand, it could have been because some, we can't trust other humans, right? Like maybe that's what made them go to that. I can't trust other humans or they won't understand that. Humans are acting in a very oppositional way to me so if you go here right now the goal or the gold would be come here enough before that turns narcissistic too so i see a lot of i see a lot of things really actually dependent on the person's own growth themselves and so what's one person's tool is actually another person's own thing that is blocking them and we have to really be aware of how we're using these tools and if we've outgrown them or if we're actually helping ourselves learn because I see them helping people learn.

1:20:42And that's great because that's what technology is for humanity. Technology is supposed to help humans evolve. And so I love when it's helping humans evolve, but we have to also be careful that they're not stripping us of what I call atrophy. Atrophy is one of the synthetic timelines major. it is actually if i had to say there's one feature of it the most dominant it would be atrophy your third eye atrophies your spiritual abilities atrophy your ability to connect atrophies everything atrophies and that's what creates the organic time or the synthetic timelines when we're acting more like npc robots it's because we've atrophied wow because we're not using any of our gifts.

1:21:30We're not using our intuition. We're not using our creativity. Yeah. You know, like my, my employees, you know, my team uses chat GPT for the things that they need to do for work. So, you know, I'm no prude, like we're going to evolve. Technology is a part of that. It's, it's going to be integrated into our lives, but I see an abuse of it. And so, um, the abuse of it is actually atrophy and it's very kind of like um deceptive because it presents itself as being evolution and even innovative and so we go running to that when really it's doing a bait and switch it's it's essentially you know atrophying our own spiritual development and so with technology there's really positive what I call new earth technologies which it would be what I would even consider a lot of them water-based at this point so when I say technology I'm not using technology in like a super super like metallic way yeah it's it's things that are what at once we would have called even magic technology would be things that can either be using the the environment around us, the elements around us in a much more advanced way, a much more sophisticated way.

1:22:54But then also, even if we are talking about like, let's say technology, like real technology, that has its place too. But one thing that's very important to understand is that anytime we see something that's super like at an extreme level trying to kind of take over the human spirit as being how we advance that is actually coming from a a dark occultist agenda and the dark occultist agenda leads to transhumanism just point blank period point blank so we have to start looking at things when it comes to technology is where is this helping me the way that tricycle wheels help you create the motor capacity for a bike like like the the motor brain you know the mechanics of you going on a bike because that's what technology is here to help us with and that's its gift and so when it's actually trying to take over the human who is driving the bike that is a dark occultist uh deeply um embedded belief that humanity is flawed that that comes from humanity is flawed and that there is no higher realm than this realm and that because there's no higher realm than this realm well then naturally we need better body suits that are more sophisticated to, um, to be able to, to live longer here.

1:24:28So, so if we knew what we were signing off on, if we actually had the people who are like pushing these things in a room and we said, why is this? We wouldn't actually agree with that. And that's why they don't tell us these things. What is the transhuman agenda again? The transhumanist agenda is so funny that we're talking about this because my brother sent me a reel this morning. He texted me this out of nowhere because this happened, I guess, a month ago where the PayPal, did you hear about this? The creator of PayPal was inside some interview. He ends up at the end of the interview admitting that, well, we need to be able moving forward as humans to replace all of our parts and become transhumanist.

1:25:20And I would, I said this in a video two years ago and I got so much heat for it. And I was like, I have to say it. I don't care if I look crazy and this might, you know, make me look bad for a while. Um, and then literally out of his mouth, he said the thing which is that yeah their goal is transhumanism and because while we're going to need to be able to live on earth longer like he said like almost the whole thing inside that one little clip and now i know why i watched it this morning yeah exactly i don't know if it was the same one but it was peter teal yes yeah he was like he was like do you think we'll need humans he was like do you think we'll need humans in the end and did you i don't know if you saw the comedian clip of that because there's the clip of him saying that and then there's this comedian that did this reel where he's his assistant.

1:26:10He's like, Peter, say yes. He's like, say yes. He's like, he's acting like he's bugged in his ear. He's like, say that we need humans. Say that we need humans. And Peter's like, no. You know what? It is like, what? But it's weird because you are that. Or are they not? They are what? Like, sorry, with Peter, it's like you are a human. Or like, you know, like. Like, okay, so this is just how I operate. I don't know, you know, how other people operate. I'm only checking in on Sarah. I already know their whole agenda. So what I do is go for me. So I don't calcify. I go to the complete opposite. Sarah, did he have any point in anything you said?

1:26:54Because I already know where they're coming from. So because I have that, I can relax, shall we say? I don't have the tension of, oh my God, what does he believe? What is he doing? I go, now, what do you agree? And there was something I found in that little reel. Interesting. It was, should humans still exist? And I went, I'm coming from the complete opposite coin of him. I'm coming from the complete opposite direction. And I still fumble on that question. And it's because what we want to do, right, because it's the PC thing to do, it's the right thing to do, it's the light thing to do. We want to go, of course we should, of course we should.

1:27:37And so then we never get even deeper into that first question. And so that's kind of like my two cents on giving him any grace. It was that he actually thought about his response. That's true. Because I think I go, wait, well, as we are now, because what I'm working towards is an evolved human so much of the problems that we have are because we only are in you know like in a compassionate way we're in fear in a in a far more realistic like discerned way we are in willful ignorance and so can that really survive so that's where i go i go well if we come into unity consciousness of the collective scale but I already see that happening so I will say yes you do believe that we oh yeah in my reality I don't I don't I I agree I that's what I have a hard time because I'm like I don't know what's going on I only live in my reality and my reality is people are waking up my reality is people are kind my reality is people I haven't I can't remember the last time I didn't meet someone that wasn't a sweetie like an amazing person like I I haven't been bumped up against someone that wasn't great in a long time.

1:28:55And meaning that of like a true soulful, you know, experience of being with someone. So in the new series, I know we have the second series coming out, just in the new series for Gaia, because I just want to close and kind of wrap up with that. What was one episode that you're like, this was crazy? Like you're like, this one's a heater. All of them were. Um, I, I was surprised that I know I keep saying episode two, but I was surprised that episode two, um, basically I've just been very, you know, I've been myself as, as much as I like realize my ordinariness, I just started going into like, okay, well now you could get over yourself and just say things.

1:29:42And so when it comes to this series, it was really me just saying everything that I had not only learned, but had embodied along the way of learning. And so because of that, I was really surprised that I was able to talk about revelation of the method in almost now a mainstream way. Say what that say, what's revelation of the method method or revelation of the method is episode two, where I'm talking about how. our passivity is being used to create reality that that was something that I wasn't expecting to be as mainstream ever as it is and I'm not saying it's mainstream but to have the platform of Gaia to be able to share that episode when I was watching it back I was like oh whoa I I can't believe that there was a happy medium it's almost like showing me the timeline split in real life.

1:30:41It's showing that these things that once were super fringe, super like almost conspiracy are now being able to kind of like meet in the middle and bridge in a semi mainstream way. And so for me, I was just really impressed that I was that that episode was created. Favorite episode from it? My favorite episode is the timeline split episode. because you describe the 2025 timeline split was there a month when it happens or what so the 2025 marker is what we would consider the largest bifurcation point from there there's this alchemical process called solve its coagula um solvent coagula is where you separate something to combined it again.

1:31:32And so it's really what purifies, right? Because we could look at anything and kind of apply this process of washing something away, and then it comes back together again in a more orderly, healthy state. And so the largest bifurcation point I see this year, and it's happening like right now as we speak. But beyond that, it's going to continue to go into a unification point a recombining and then again a process so the so the timeline split itself is going to be going on even more beyond this year it's just that this is one of the largest bifurcation points where it breaks away and what do we feel like in these experiences like what's what would someone feel like in a timeline split very very out of it ungrounded that's usually what's happening when we're going through multiple timelines and multiple options before it lands on that one tarot card on the picture frame it's it's a lot of different things and so even if we don't see it happening with our physical eyes we're sensing that inside our energy field we're sensing all of these different potentials and it's a little bit uh tiresome to go through that energetically because we don't know what's happening at a conscious level but our subconscious picks up on all of that wow then season two tell us about season two so we can look forward to that i'm so excited for season two because i get to talk about the divine feminine sophia so Sophia is the head female character in Gnosticism and so inside this series I'm going to be playing out why we would think in each episode a different part of like simulation theory and then bringing in how that's an organic way that consciousness creates through a hologram of light which is what we're in and so it's this beautiful interweaving and and because I hold within my bandwidth so many different paradigms so many different kind of like views that um I I actually decided that I don't really want any of them to win each other and that I wanted to hold space for them all and so this has been really a labor of love creating this season it's gonna be dope can't wait and where can people find you and connect with your work So you could find my series mystery teachings on Gaia.com and they have like 10 ,000 other like streaming shows.

1:34:12So much. Yeah, they have so much. Everything that you want is there. Yeah, everything that - Mermaids, yoga, cooking. And then you could find me on my website, thealchemist.community. That's where you could find my socials and that's where you could find my other - And you do sessions. Yeah. Sometimes, yeah. Yeah, I do sessions on not a regular basis anymore, but I do still do them. Cool. Amazing. Thank you for coming. Thank you so much, Sarah. We appreciate you. It's such a pleasure for you to come into studio. You and your partner were just incredible. So the show is Mystery Teachings. Reprogram your reality on Gaia.

1:34:48And then you can find her on YouTube. It's Sarah Echeldy. It's S-A-R-A-H-E-L-K-H-A-L-D-Y. And then on Instagram, she is The Alchemist. Thank you all for listening. Make sure you're subscribed to the show. We have two episodes out. every single week. Make sure you're subscribed on YouTube for some video enjoyment. I love like just watching on the couch. I love YouTube. I love YouTube. Um, and follow us on Instagram and Tik TOK at almost already podcast. Thanks for your support, your love for being a part of this ride that we're on. We love you and we'll see you next time. We'll see you soon.

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