In short
A solo episode about “future tripping” in dating—mentally projecting into a future with someone—and how to use it as a diagnostic tool instead of shaming it.
Guest backgrounds
No guests. Host Lindsay (Almost 30) speaks from her own experience; she was single about seven years and is now married to Sean.
Key claims
Future tripping is biologically normal (dopamine reward circuitry, “prospection,” and attachment-system activation). Presence matters, but suppressing emotions can block instincts. Reframe imagination as a “love language map” (what you crave/ fear/ value), “red flag radar” (unease in the body), and “compatibility compass” (whether the imagined future feels expansive vs compromising). Distinguish intuition (quiet, consistent, body-based) from anxiety (loud, circumstantial, phone/text-triggered). Also assess whether change is a growth edge (self-aware, progress, curiosity, non-defensive) or wishful thinking (only you believe change is coming, improvements only during conflict, no internal drive).
Notable examples
A past dating situation where her intuition said the person wasn’t ready to commit; she kept “convincing” them, causing anxiety. She contrasts “waiting for perfection” (dismisses over small traits) with “staying too long in hope” (confusing potential with reality).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOThe Importance of Singlehood and Future Tripping
1:55 to 3:51
Lindsay shares her insights on being single and the concept of future tripping.
“you either relate or learn something or think about something differently.”
Understanding Future Tripping in Relationships
3:51 to 6:12
Exploration of future tripping and its implications in dating.
“And I realized, you know, however many years later, now married, I am with my person.”
The Science Behind Future Tripping
6:12 to 8:22
Scientific insights into how our brains process potential futures when dating.
“So the dopamine and what's called the nucleus accumbens, they activate, simulating futures to assess probability of reward.”
Reframing Future Tripping as a Tool
8:22 to 10:34
Lindsay discusses how to reframe future tripping as a valuable diagnostic tool.
“about this person, both like actual information and running it through your system and also how this person is making you feel.”
Using Future Tripping for Self-Discovery
10:34 to 12:46
Techniques to use future tripping insights for personal growth and relationship clarity.
“Like coffee on a Sunday morning, them making you eggs and toast.”
Understanding Future Tripping
14:01 to 14:26
Learn how future tripping can reveal your values and red flags in relationships.
“how it registers to your nervous system and your body.”
Compatibility and Future Tripping
18:19 to 22:36
Understand how future tripping helps assess compatibility in relationships.
“Chime is a financial technology company, not a bank.”
Intuition vs. Anxiety in Relationships
22:36 to 28:00
Distinguish between intuition and anxiety when navigating romantic feelings.
“So one of the biggest questions I've gotten over the years related to dating and especially to that early dating period is, is this intuition or is this anxiety?”
Understanding Anxiety vs. Intuition in Relationships
28:00 to 29:15
Learn how to differentiate between anxiety and intuition when seeking commitment in relationships.
“And so I would do so many things for this person that someone in a committed or exclusive relationship would do for another person, but without having that clarity or conversation.”
Listening to Your Body's Signals
29:16 to 31:22
Discover how your body's reactions can provide insights into your emotional state and relationship dynamics.
“I was like, no, no, no, but they're going to commit to me.”
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Navigating Relationship Expectations and Growth
34:55 to 40:04
Understand the balance between recognizing potential in a partner and acknowledging reality in relationships.
“Waiting for perfection, I feel like is more common amongst my girlfriends right now, where they're dismissing people if one thing is off.”
Identifying Signs of Wishful Thinking in Love
40:05 to 42:01
Learn how to recognize when you are engaging in wishful thinking regarding a partner's potential for change.
“and looking at it from, you know, 30 ,000 feet up in the air and you see a positive pattern of growth, like if you're seeing like improvement, even if they're not there yet, right?”
The Illusion of Change in Relationships
42:01 to 43:36
Learn why expecting partners to change without internal motivation may be wishful thinking.
“And then they like improve for a few days because like you took it there to a climax and then it like chills out again and you're happy over the next week and then they go back to their old habit.”
Loving the Present vs. Potential
43:36 to 47:17
Explore the importance of loving your partner's current self rather than who they could become.
“But if that internal drive is not there, this is wishful thinking, period.”
The Fit Check: Evaluating Relationships
49:45 to 54:00
Understand the Fit Check method to assess compatibility in dating based on future vision, intuition, and growth trajectory.
“The Cavs eye another upset While the Knicks carry the dreams of all of New York Bang!”
Transcript
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1:12Lindsey Metselaar:Hello and welcome to the Almost 30 podcast. It's Lindsay, your girl, one half of the Almost 30 podcast. I'm so glad you're here. This is a solo episode, which we do once a month at least. Kristen and I have been really doubling down on our solos, both together and individually, because we heard from you. You guys want more of these? I think us starting the podcast on our closet floors and talking about life and all the things that we were moving through brought so many of you here. And while our guests are incredible and we've learned so much and we will continue to bring on guests, I think the solos are a really special peek inside our brains and our hearts, what we're moving through.
1:54And what we found is that when we share, usually a lot of you either relate or learn something or think about something differently. And so, yeah, if we can have a vulnerable moment with you here in our solos and make a difference, it is well worth it.
2:11Lindsey Metselaar:So today I wanted to do a solo inspired by my time dating. If you've been here for a while, you know, I had a whole moment in my life. It was truly my brand of being the single girl. The sacredness of being single was a program that I created, was a movement I led. No, it was a very, very powerful time in my life. And I've spoken to thousands of you about this time in your life. and really we've reframed it for ourselves. We've rewritten this story that it's a murky in between. It is a super powerful and purposeful in between in your life. And if you don't lean into it and really find the growth opportunities and be okay with the silence and the quiet and cultivate that relationship with yourself, dating and being in a relationship could actually be harder.
3:16So I wanted to kind of zero in on an experience or pattern that I had that I was very judgmental of during my dating years, and that is future tripping. Future tripping, I used to judge. I used to think I was too much. Girl, why are you thinking about this guy? And if you can marry him and whether your parents will like him and what vacations would be like with him in 10 years. Why are we doing this? Why are you pulling yourself out of this moment and just living in the future on date one?
3:53Lindsey Metselaar:And I realized, you know, however many years later, now married, I am with my person. We are building a life. And I realized that actually the future tripping was a superpower. And actually, my brain was trying to tell me things during this time. And so I want to walk us through why that is and how we can kind of use it as a tool and use it as a really special indicator as we're dating. It doesn't mean that we're going to live in the future the whole time. It doesn't mean we aren't going to make an effort to be as present as possible with someone. And it doesn't mean that we can't grow with someone, but I think this particular part of human nature is so interesting and so purposeful.
4:48So again, I have credibility in this space. I was single for about seven years. My husband always makes a little like sing song about this. He's like, I was single for seven years. Yes, I was.
5:04Lindsey Metselaar:A lot of dates, a lot of data. Okay. And now I'm married to Sean and I can really look back and see exactly what my brain was doing. So future tripping and dating. Let's talk about it. If you don't know, it is when you are mentally projecting into a future with someone. So like someone new, someone you just met, it could be on the first date where you are imagining, okay, like, can I marry this person? Would this person be a good father? How would my parents react to this person? What kind of house would we live in? Would we live in a city or the country? Like, what would he be like every morning next to me?
5:48And, you know, I think my immature brain was like, this is embarrassing. You're doing too much. Like, This is why guys aren't sticking around. You're desperate. But no, there is something happening neurologically. So I want to read a little bit about the science. So when we meet someone, okay, when we meet someone we are drawn to, like someone we are attracted to, the brain's reward circuitry. So the dopamine and what's called the nucleus accumbens,
6:20Lindsey Metselaar:they activate, simulating futures to assess probability of reward. How interesting. Okay. Then there's also the prospection happening. So we're, you know, the human ability to mentally time travel forward. We are assessing, you know, prospects, whether it's people, opportunities. psychologists Martin Seligman and Roy Baumeister argue the human brain is fundamentally a future-making machine, not a past-processing one, which I think is really interesting when we think about manifestation and we think about just the power to create worlds outside of what we feel like our past holds us to, which I think a lot of us can get stuck in.
7:14Lindsey Metselaar:Future tripping is also tied to attachment system activation. So we know attachment theory. We've read about it. We've heard about it. Maybe we've learned about it. Maybe we've like really applied it to ourselves. When we feel a pull, our nervous system models what safety and connection might look like. So this is biology doing its job just to validate you if you are someone who is future tripping. But what gets tricky is this cultural message of don't get too ahead of yourself. Don't look desperate. Try to stay present. And I've said these things, not the desperate part, but stay present. Stay present with this person.
7:56Pick up on the things that they're showing you and giving you in the present moment. And that is true. but two things can be true at once. And that is you might be tripping to the future and that is you are able to gather information from there, mostly about yourself and for yourself. And then in the present moment, you can be gathering information and data from what you're experiencing about this person, both like actual information and running it through your system and also how this person is making you feel.
8:31Lindsey Metselaar:So while presence absolutely matters, make no mistake, it absolutely matters. We have overcorrected into suppressing our emotions and that makes us not trust our instincts. So we got to swing back a little bit. You can stay present and notice what your imagination is doing during this interaction. Okay. So I want you to reframe or rebrand your imagination as a diagnostic tool. Okay. So if you are sitting there and you are on a first date and you just met this person, say on Hinge, and you sit down at your local pub and you know, you're looking at this person and they have really kind eyes and they're telling you about their mom and you're like, wow, he's going to be a great husband one day.
9:24Like if he talks about his mom like that. Like I'm sure, you know, like just going all the places. But this future tripping, sure, it could tell you about them perhaps, but I want you to actually focus on what it is telling you about you, what you want, what you fear, what you're ready for. There's a lot of information here that I think we miss. And so I want you to take note. All right, how do we do this? Let's just assess a situation and ask some questions.
10:03Lindsey Metselaar:This future that you're imagining, right? I'm sure it's a scene. You know, we paint it pretty specifically. There's a lot of details. What is this picture exactly? Are you traveling? Is it adventurous? Is it more relaxing? Maybe you're craving expansion, right? Because travel really means kind of stepping outside of your comfort zone. It means outside of your routine. So maybe you are craving expansion. Are you picturing more of like a cozy domestic scene? Like coffee on a Sunday morning, them making you eggs and toast. Maybe you're craving safety and comfort and stability in that way. Picturing someone, say, coming to your events, you know, if you are a speaker or a performer, you picture this person in the audience just looking up at you, admiring you.
11:02You know, maybe you are craving that visibility being seen, being appreciated, being, you know, honored and loved in that way. So next time you catch yourself future tripping, don't shame spiral. I actually want you afterwards, as soon as possible afterwards, to write down exactly what you pictured. So this is your new love language map. It is going to give you a lot of information. It will give you information about your values, what you really value in a partnership, what you really value in life. So try that out. Let me know how it goes. it really gives a purpose to this quote habit that we think we have and we need to break.
11:55It's like, no, what information is future tripping giving me?
12:00Lindsey Metselaar:Future tripping can also be a tool that doubles as like a red flag radar. Okay. Hear me out. Future tripping can also surface nervous fears. You know, I've definitely been in dating situations way back when where I would future trip and I would almost hit like a roadblock or like just this feeling of like uneasiness when thinking about this person in the future. and my nervous system I know now was already clocking how this person would fit into my life. So it was clocking it before my conscious mind could catch up. So this is really important. You know, our bodies are so intelligent. You know, our nervous system is, you know, a network throughout our entire body that controls or affects so much.
13:05And so when I would feel that like tightness in my chest or just feel kind of like that confusion and just not that like easeful clarity back then, I would try to force it. And I'd be like, well, maybe they could change and, you know, maybe I could help them become that. But what I know now is that my nervous system was giving me the data on this person that maybe the way they talked about their dating life was actually an indication that they weren't ready to be in a partnership. Maybe the way that they were so obsessed with work and had their priorities really imbalanced was going to be an issue for me.
13:57Or maybe not. This is just kind of preferential, but know how it registers to your nervous system and your body. So again, future tripping can be a desire detector for your values. It can be just a map for your love language. And it can also be a red flag radar. Okay? So it can be both.
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18:55Lindsey Metselaar:When you're future tripping, you are running a values compatibility simulation, a values compatibility simulation. Okay. So you're kind of bringing like your values, what you perceive as their values based on like probably an hour of interaction and kind of seeing if they fit pretty well together in a simulation. So give it a scene, give it a year, give it different circumstances, and just seeing like, huh, does that feel good? Does that feel compatible? And granted, like an hour, you're not going to have all the information that you need to be super, super accurate. But again, so much of this is energetic and what your nervous system is picking up on that you can trust.
19:50So, you know, you're picturing, do they actually fit into my life? Their way of life, my way of life, what's important to us, do they fit in? Or are you constantly kind of like editing in the moment in order for them to fit in? So saying like, well, maybe, you know, if they are someone who's like kind of nobatic, Maybe I could work remote or quit my job and then I could figure it out and we could go across the country and just kind of like extremely editing your life so they fit in. Does the imagined future feel expansive or does it feel like you're quietly compromising? So just really feeling into that part of compatibility where do you expand each other?
20:47Do you inspire each other? Do you make each other grow? Does it feel like you can really become more of who you're meant to be? Or do you have to dim your light? Do you have to compromise on a lot of things? And don't get it twisted. You're going to compromise in a relationship. That is a part of being in a relationship. But I do think there's a nuance to that in that are you abandoning yourself when you compromise? Or are you understanding that there is actually a benefit in compromising with someone you love and knowing that it will have to have been on their side as well? Like there's a difference between that and abandoning yourself in the compromise.
21:32you might be picturing them with your friends and family. Do you see them like your friends and family embracing this person? Or are you already anxious about your parents meeting this person? Or are you already negotiating in your heart like, okay, well, maybe I won't introduce this person to so-and-so because I feel like they don't really like that type of person and like just doing the most, which I've done so many times before. And it's not always about the person that you're dating. It might be about your relationship with those people. It's very complex and layered, but I want you to notice, are you yourself kind of negotiating and trying to like position this out so it works, like forcing it to work.
22:22So again, you can really pick up on compatibility in these future tripping moments. It's not like, you know, a surefire diagnostic tool, but it's going to give you information. Okay.
22:35Lindsey Metselaar:So it's a desire detector. It's a red flag radar. It's a compatibility compass. Okay. Can we remember that? Three things. All right. So one of the biggest questions I've gotten over the years related to dating and especially to that early dating period is, is this intuition or is this anxiety? Both can show up in your feelings about the future. Both feel urgent, you know, but they are very different. Okay, let's talk about it. So intuition for me, I will describe from my perspective and you can kind of noodle on your own and see how it feels for you. Intuition for me is a quiet knowing. It's very quiet, but it has just like these roots and this stabilizing, peaceful nature about it.
23:45Anxiety, sometimes I, like literally I will hear my anxiety sometimes. It's almost like an inner voice that's shouting at me. And it's so loud and it's so chaotic and I'm overwhelmed by it. I almost just want to be like, shut up, stop. But I never feel that way about my intuition. My intuition is quiet and it knows. It almost waits for me to come around and to listen. But the anxiety is noise. It is just, it's urgency. Intuition is consistent over time. Consistent, just again, loyal, like she's there. And if you stray and you question, she's like, I'll be here when you're ready. And then anxiety fluctuates depending on if he texts you today or whether, you know, you get a match on your dating profile.
24:53Like it fluctuates with the circumstances. It's all over the place. It's very circumstantial in that way. I remember, oh my gosh, dude, dating people. If I was dating someone, I rarely dated more than one person. I just couldn't handle two. But like if I was dating someone and it was kind of like one of those people that texted me just like when they had time, when they would finally text me, I mean, the happiness, the way my mood would switch, you know, was unreal. And then when they wouldn't for like days, I mean, my nervous system was like off the rails and I was like always thinking about it, always checking my phone.
25:41That is anxiety. Okay. Intuition doesn't need reassurance. We don't need to over-explain. Intuition is, it is a knowing. Anxiety is, yeah, anxiety is, again, very circumstantial. Like it'll appear when this happens and disappear when this happens. Right? So it's similar to what I just said, but to reiterate, like it fluctuates. It's It's predictable in the sense that it's associated with certain things going right and certain things like that you can control and make you feel stable rather than an inner stability and inner knowing being your compass or your foundation. Your intuition will be pretty clear about, no, this way.
26:45It'll point clearly towards something. You might want to avoid it. You might want to deny it. You might want to question it, but it's pretty clear. Anxiety keeps you spinning in one place. You're going to spin. You're going to spin. You're going to get confused. You're going to get dizzy. Probably won't know which way is up at times. So intuition is clear. It's pointing in a direction. Anxiety will keep you spinning. I remember when I was dating in LA, I was dating this specific person. It's funny because like I'll say dating, but then like if I were to ask that person, they'd be like, we hooked up a few times.
27:26Yeah, that's part of the problem. Um, I just remember wanting more clarity from this person and my intuition was like, was telling me pretty clearly that this person was not available. was not ready to settle down. And not that I was, but like not ready to be in a more like committed or exclusive relationship. My intuition knew that. She was waiting for me to come around. And so I would do so many things for this person that someone in a committed or exclusive relationship would do for another person, but without having that clarity or conversation. And I just remember like the reaction from the other person was like so far from what I wanted.
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28:24You know, it'd be like a thank you, but there was no reciprocation, barely. And there was no acknowledgement of like the actual act and like what it means. and I just remember being so anxious because I so desperately wanted all of these things that I was doing whether it was like cooking dinner for them or like sending them something that was super thoughtful or you know just the list goes on and just twisting myself doing a circus act to try to get this person on board with the fact that I would be an amazing girlfriend And it just caused so much anxiety, whereas my intuition the whole time was like, girl, this person is not wanting to commit to anyone right now.
29:16I was like, no, no, no, but they're going to commit to me. My anxiety was like, no, no, no, no, no. We're going to get them to commit. We're going to convince them. So you see the difference. It took a long time and it took many times of this, both me being on this side and then the other side to really realize what was intuition and what was anxiety. The last thing I'll say about knowing the difference is what is your body saying? My body tells me so much. My body is like so smart. So is yours. How does my body feel when this person sends me a text way back when, you know? Would it be this like buzz of like crazy excitement?
30:03Would it be like my stomach dropping when I saw their text pop up and not know what it says? noticing what the body is doing is a phenomenal way to really get to the heart of what's going on here. And a phenomenal way to really tap into, okay, what does my intuition say about this? Hey body, what are you saying about this? Because the body and intuition are so connected. And so take five minutes. Take five minutes after you check your phone, you know, if this person texts you or talk to your friends about this person. Take five minutes, check in with your body, not your thoughts. And notice, am I feeling expanded, open, peaceful, or am I feeling contracted, anxious, closed, nervous?
31:02Am I feeling energized or am I feeling totally drained after having that text exchange? Am I relieved or like vaguely unsettled? The body knows and the mind will catch out. The body usually knows first, so trust it. Another question I get, and I've asked myself many times over, is but what about the potential? Like this person has so much potential. I could teach them how to be this way. I could teach them how to be a good boyfriend. I could teach them how to communicate better. I could teach them how to be a better texter, how to initiate more. I could teach them and they'll love me for that.
31:54They'll love me for improving their life and becoming a better person. I've literally, I've literally had thoughts about this. Like way back in the day when I was dating, holy moly. Okay.
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35:06Okay. We have two cultural failure modes. One is waiting for perfection.
35:17Okay. Waiting for perfection, I feel like is more common amongst my girlfriends right now, where they're dismissing people if one thing is off. Dismissing them if they have a weird, unstable job. Dismissing them if they're from LA. Dismissing them if they have blonde hair. Dismissing them if they're under 5 '9", right? Like just one thing is off. I'm going to wait for perfect. Sorry, not settling. And then we have the staying too long in hope. I've been there many times before. I've been both for sure. I think I started out as staying too long for hope. And then I kind of swung far to the waiting for perfection once I like knew my worth.
36:08Um, and the staying too long for hope is confusing potential with reality, right? So I wouldn't say either is really right. Um, but where's the line, right? To kind of distinguish, let's talk about growth edge. here are some signs that this potential relationship or maybe the early beginnings of a relationship are a real growth edge a real growth edge that is going to benefit both of you and going to hopefully make your connection even stronger in the long term that it is good for your soul that it is worth being here right and worth investing time and energy.
37:02I think it is a really good sign when they name the thing themselves without you having to point it out first. Basically, when they have self-awareness around their own opportunities for growth. So say something as simple as like not being a good texter, right? If they have said like, you know what? I am not a good texter. I really need to work on that. I'm sorry. You know, not texting you for an entire day is not cool. Like when you've texted me and I didn't reply, like that is not cool. I'm just really bad with text. Okay. I like that self-awareness. I like even more if they are going to work on it and you see kind of them putting work into that.
37:49But I think naming it themselves without you having to point it out is such a good sign and potentially a growth edge for that person and a growth edge for you in order to kind of like be patient and give feedback and not a you need to do this, but just like, this is how it makes me feel kind of way. Another green flag is like you've seen progress, right? It is a growth edge if you've seen progress in this person or in you both or on your side, but you've seen progress even before you've like made it an ultimatum, right? So it's important to this person that they improve something that has a real effect on you and they care enough about it to actually make an effort to change their habit.
38:41I think that's a really good sign. I think it's also incredible and a sign that this is a growth edge. If they are super curious and open as they are growing through something or changing something or improving something rather than becoming defensive. This is a big one. Defensiveness to me is not about like the actual thing they're defending. It's, it's, it's what's lying underneath the defensiveness. So if they're curious and open about like, huh, like this is important. Okay. Let's like work on this without it being like, yeah, but like I'm working all day, so I can't text you back. Okay. I can't text you back.
39:35Like I'm working all day. It's like, okay, that feels like a wall. That feels like total defensiveness, not owning, not being aware that this is affecting someone that you care about. I just think the curiosity and openness is chef's kiss. It's something that they will carry through their life and in their relationships. And it is so important because life's going to life, right? Right? And then lastly, I think overall, if you're just pulling up and out of this situation and looking at it from, you know, 30 ,000 feet up in the air and you see a positive pattern of growth, like if you're seeing like improvement, even if they're not there yet, right?
40:25But if you are seeing some positive patterns take shape, things change a little bit, effort in, like movement forward, really good sign. Really good sign that this is a growth edge for you and not something you should let go of, right? Now I want to shift to signs that it's wishful thinking, kind of like confusing that potential with reality, right? Which I've done so many times. So this one, you are the only one in the relationship who believes that the change is coming. So where they are like totally unaware, or maybe they're not even on board, or they disagree with you, or they're defensive, but you're the one that's like, no, it'll change.
41:20It'll totally change. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no. He'll get there. I'll make him. That is a red flag. That is wishful thinking. You will not change someone. They have to change themselves in order for it to be a lasting change.
41:40Wishful thinking is also when they just change when there's conflict, when there's like a climax in the communication about the thing. Like, I cannot believe this is the 10th time you haven't texted me all day. I am like so done. And then they like improve for a few days because like you took it there to a climax and then it like chills out again and you're happy over the next week and then they go back to their old habit. So just in conflict, they improve and then they revert back to whatever they were doing that you wanted them to change. Wishful thinking, y 'all. This one is an important one.
42:28So listen up. Growth only happens as a reaction to your feelings. there's not like an internal drive within them it's a little bit of a codependent thing where like they're waiting for your reaction how your mood is what's going on with you what you need them to change about themselves and they like do it but it's not integrated it hasn't landed it's not truly them they haven't taken accountability they're not super aware of how it affects you or them or their whole life experience, they're just like, okay, I'll do it because you're mad or you're sad or you want this to happen. If there's not that internal drive from them where they're like, you know what?
43:22Like becoming a better communicator would actually benefit me in all areas of my life. I actually think this is a really good thing for me to work on, not just texting you, you know, on a consistent basis, but like, I need to be a better communicator. Yes, please. But if that internal drive is not there, this is wishful thinking, period. Okay. So those are examples. And just to kind of like put the button with a little mind research or mindset research. Carol Dweck's research show that people with a growth mindset show it in multiple areas of their life, their work, family, health, etc. Mindset tends to be systemic.
44:12You can look for it beyond relationship. So you can see it in their work. You can see it in the way they take care of themselves, how they interact with their family, like it will bleed. So if you're like, is it just me? I am sure you will find it elsewhere. So this is powerful. You know, this is a very powerful indicator of how compatible you are. If this is bothering you, this little text thing is bothering you, I'm sure the communication is something that bleeds into everything, right? And again, it's not that this person can't change, but we need to be realistic about do they want to change?
44:51Do they see it as a problem? Is it important to them? Is it important to them that they, you know, improve themselves and grow over time? Lots of indicators.
45:06A question that I asked myself towards like the end of my dating years that I think was really powerful and sometimes confronting. And it was in that time of like having dated someone for, you know, a decent amount of time to the point of like loving a person, like feeling that love and that relationship grow and develop. Do I love who this person is right now, fully as they are today? or do I love who I believe they could be? And that would stop me in my tracks a lot of the time. I think early in my dating years, like in my late 20s, I was loving who they could be. I remember, so Sean and I met, my husband and I met back in 2012.
46:02And I remember wanting to change almost everything about him. There were aspects of him that really triggered me. And it's interesting because today those are some of the things that I love most and I'm most attracted to. I think it's how I have kind of integrated those things within myself over the years. but I realized that I was, if I were to have started to date him back then, I would have gone into that relationship just wanting to change him, change everything about him, most things about him in order for this to work. And that's not how it works. And I just remember it feeling so different when we reconnected in 2019, sitting down to that dinner and just being like, wow, you know, like I, I want to change nothing about you.
46:54It doesn't mean you're perfect, but like, I don't have that urge to be like, well, if he just did this or he was like this, then maybe, no, I was, I was, I was loving who he was today, knowing that he is a growth oriented person that we were going to grow and develop and learn over time individually and together. But just knowing like, I love you today for who you are today, for all of your faults, for all of your cracks, for all the goodness in you. But I didn't have that urge to change him in order for me to love him. And I think that's a really important question to ask yourself.
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49:44The road to the NBA Finals ends here. With star guards setting the tone. The Cavs eye another upset While the Knicks carry the dreams of all of New York Bang! The Eastern Conference Finals Cavaliers-Knicks Game 1 tonight ESPN Okay, I want to leave you With something that you can kind of put in your back pocket as you're dating. Okay. This is called the fit check. F-I-T, fit check. F for future. What does your imagination show you when you picture a future with this person? What's the, what is the emotional texture of it? Really feel into that. So again, going back to how we started this conversation, future tripping can be such a good tool.
50:53Let's zero in on the emotional texture of this, of the future with this person. Okay. I, intuition. So we talked about intuition versus anxiety. Intuition, when you get quiet, okay? When you get quiet, away from Instagram, away from friends, all the opinions of other people, what does your body say? What does that quiet knowing voice in your heart say?
51:32and T trajectory is this person growing not perfectly it doesn't have to be perfect it doesn't have to be a certain way but directionally are they growing and is the relationship itself growing in depth and safety and reciprocation so that is your fit check F future check on that future, how it feels, especially emotionally. Eye intuition. When all the opinions and the noise die down and you can really be with the voice in your heart and with your body telling you before your mind gets there, what does it tell you? And then T trajectory. Is this how it like a positive growth pattern happening?
52:22Right? It doesn't need to be perfect, but are we growing? You are onto something. If you are checking these boxes, right? You are definitely onto something. It might not be your person, but it's something that I think you should invest in. So to everyone dating, hi, I feel you. I feel you when it's hard. I feel you when it is euphoric and exciting. It is a very special life experience. So I know you want to rush out of it and find your person and get going on life, but this is a part of it. This is a part of the process. The version of you, and I'm talking to the version of me who future trips, right?
53:08You're doing something really, really wise. So make no mistake. It is not something that is too desperate or too much, you're asking yourself in this vision, does this person fit into the life that I actually want? Right? And the answer might surprise you, right? The answer might give you information that will help you make a decision. It'll give you data. It'll tell you about your own values and what's important to you. So don't take it just for like, oh, this person is a yes or a no. It's like, no, this is telling me something about what's important to me. And that is valuable. And I just want you to trust yourself, okay?
53:51This is a practice in trusting yourself, this whole dating process. I am here to answer any questions in the DMs. I am in my DMs. I would love to chat with you if you are someone who is dating. It was a profound period of my life that I look back on super fondly because I learned so, so, so much. so much about myself, about partnership, about what I wanted, and it changed me. So allow it to change you, allow it to move you, allow it to be something that makes you contemplate and really reflect on what you want, what's important to you in this life and in a relationship. Okay. I hope this was helpful, my future tripping babies.
54:37And I will see you on the next solo. If you're new to Almost 30, make sure to follow us on Instagram at Almost 30 Podcast, on TikTok at Almost 30 Podcast. And we're on YouTube, okay? I'm on YouTube. I'm very pregnant. You can check it out. I'm losing steam on my outfits here. But subscribe on YouTube. That would really mean a lot to us. Video is the future of podcasting if it isn't already. So YouTube, subscribe. and we have new episodes every week, two episodes every week. Thank you so much for listening,
55:10Lindsey Metselaar:for being here, for being an OG fan, and we will see you on the next one. Bye everybody.
From the publisher
In this solo episode, Lindsey dives into the dating pattern so many of us secretly fall into but rarely admit: future tripping. From imagining a future with someone after one date to wondering if they could be “the one,” Lindsey reframes future tripping as something deeper than overthinking.
Lindsey explores the psychology behind future tripping, the difference between intuition + anxiety in relationships, and how your nervous system often recognizes compatibility before your mind does. Lindsey also shares the powerful dating lessons she learned through years of being single.
This episode is for anyone who’s ever ignored their instincts, stayed too long because of someone’s “potential,” or questioned what they truly want. Lindsey shares a new framework for dating rooted in self-trust, and understanding what your imagined future may be trying to tell you.
We also talk about:
Why future tripping is actually rooted in neuroscience + attachment theory
Signs you’re confusing potential with reality
Why “I can change them” is often a dangerous mindset
The subtle difference between compromising + abandoning yourself
Green flags that signal real emotional growth in a partner
How to identify compatibility beyond chemistry and attraction
What your imagined future reveals about your deepest desires + values
Lindsey’s personal dating stories before meeting her husband Sean
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