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29:19So like, we're almost outgrowing these versions of ourselves. So we're outgrowing this, um, manifestation, just feel good and sit on the couch. We're outgrowing this whole, like trust the universe kind of thing. Right. And I think that there is a, that's, that's, that's what people are kind of like, eh, you know, there's a reason for that. And so, um, getting more into this, that we're actually creating, I mean, is there even a cycle, right? It's really, it's just us evolving into that next version of us. And we actually have to, in order to do what we love, we have to drop who we're not. so it's not just I'm doing what I love every day that's the that's sort of like the kindergarten version my opinion is that doing what you love is is is the unbecoming of actually that part of you that you love that you think is going to get you there yeah because we have all these things about ourselves that we love we have all these wonderful things but it's still ego it's still keeping us Like, I mean, I didn't make any money at all in the spiritual.

30:35I've been running it for eight years. I didn't make any money at all for the first two years. So I came out of corporate as an energy trader making six-figure bonuses, for Christ's sake. So I was like, money wasn't an issue. And so here it is. I got slapped in the face with it. I was like, of all the people who, right? Interesting that you were an energy trader. Isn't that fascinating? I know, I know. When I read that, I was like, wait, is that a typo? I was like, is she just calling it energy training? No, it's interesting. Yeah, electricity, oil, natural gas, all that. Yeah. And so the way that I made that switch, and it happened immediately, happened within just a couple of weeks, is I'm like, oh, I am filtering what's coming through that I'm supposed to just say.

31:22And then when I started the podcast, even, I thought, okay, well, the only thing that I'm going to think about is I'm just not going to filter. So then it became that became my work as I chose I chose the unbecoming as the work. And then all of a sudden I started getting messages like you're in my head. And I'm like, OK, this is the abundance. The messages are the abundance. And then you I mean, you know, inevitably you can see things are opening up. Yeah, of course, the money would start coming in. Yeah. And of course, I would start helping people. And then I remember, you know, my I I had my my best friend from kindergarten.

31:58And I was like, do you want to help me, you know, with an online business? She's like, Elizabeth, I'm a scientist. I know nothing about money or online business. I'm like, well, I'll show you. I don't even know myself. Right. And I remember the day where she's like, Elizabeth, we finally have people in the program where we don't know that we don't know them like it's a new name. So those are the abundant moments that you're looking for. And it never looks like we think it is going to look. So why are we so freaking adamant about the way that it looks? Yeah, we miss because we just associate abundance with a dollar sign of money.

32:37Yes. And so if we don't recognize the other forms of abundance, then we won't recognize what we have. And we just recognize what we don't have. Is that? Yeah. And you can almost let your own intuition even lean into that. Of course, if I'm getting three messages a day with people going, you know, you've helped me, you've changed my life, you've done this. Would I not expect the business to open up? Would not expect that I have changed? You know, that's another thing, too, is that we change. And it's like we're okay with connecting with our own personal growth. But why do we not expect money to come to us based on that?

33:18Why do we not expect that money would be a match? I think that's a more powerful place to be than it is this whole, let me like, you know, sit in a goal and just keep every day thinking about 50K months and all of that. Again, I think it's an old conversation. Yeah, I agree with you. Yeah. Yeah, I totally agree with you. That stuff never really resonated with me. And I was like, oh, Linz, you're just being avoidant. Like, you know, you're not letting yourself be in that practice. but I was like it never really resonated with me or like really felt powerful I guess or just like in my cells like oh yeah that feels true for some people it's I've seen it work beautifully but um I'm curious though about we haven't had any conversation yet around like specificity so if people because I think in a lot of manifestation conversations there's this talk of like specific versus non-specific manifestations.

34:18Should we say the dollar amount? Should we say, you know, just the specific thing we want, the opportunity, the job opportunity, the person coming in, should it be that specific or is that trying to control? Well, manifestation itself is we're trying to figure out how quickly something's going to come us in the 3D world based on the energy. And so that to us, our interpretation of that is time. And so it's specific versus non-specific. It's what is your relationship to it, because your relationship to it is how it's going to be grounded in time. If someone believes that if they're specific about 50K months, and they have a clean relationship to that, like their connection to that is literally like an opening, almost like a spiritual practice, then great, be specific.

35:15If it's non-specific and that becomes a spiritual practice, then that's the way to go. Right. Because all that we're doing here is we are coming in and out of time. We talk about the 3D versus the universal field. All we're doing is we're literally we're either here, just like I said, nothing exists around it, or we're grounded in time. And what grounds us in time is language. So if I said to someone and I had them like close their eyes and people could even do this if they want to right now. And I said, it's closer than you think. And then you let that go through you. and then you became the self-expression of that version who just is starting from that place, then you've shifted the whole landscape of manifestation.

36:10So the manifestation is just the power of you. It's not anything separate from us. But it's closer than you think is actually a statement that includes time. But if you use it, you can shift yourself on the time span. So we're just moving ourselves up and down the spectrum all the time based on our choosing and our agreement. Do I agree that my starting place is now going to be it's closer than I think? Or do I agree that my starting place is going to be I'll make a million dollars this year? Because that's way out there. And that's my agreement is that it's way out there. That's manifestation to me in a nutshell.

36:58You talk about the collapsing of time. Yeah. So should we, is it okay to go in and out of time? I guess we are. Supposed to. Okay. That's what we came here to do. Yeah. Because the contrast only exists in time. Right. Okay. So source is certainty. When you feel certain about something, that's source, right? We're supposed to go feel uncertain to a certain degree. So we go back into time and we see the contrast. it's the entanglement that actually causes that diminishment, that collapse of time. How entangled am I getting? You can almost think of it as walking into the room. Can you walk in the room and cleanly move through all of the people and the energy in there?

37:40Can it be your experience? Can it be not about you? Can it be just something that you're in discovery? What's your level of listening? Because all the answers are in the listening. And then can you walk out? That's the bridge. I call it the bridge. I'm writing a book on it right now, actually. And it's that diminishment of that. That's how you actually take something immediately from the energy world to the 3D. Yeah. And there's not anything else that people really need to know, honestly. Would you say that the mind gets in the way? What gets in the way of us being able to just do that? I think that it is the mind, but I think it's actually the emotions that actually get created in our body from what the mind has connected the emotions to.

38:28Because the emotions is really what's guiding us sort of like we call it like subconsciously or whatever. Like the emotion is going to cause me to direct this way or this way. So can I disconnect that story that went on that, oh my God, someone is going to take the money from me. So you feel like someone's going to like, like, let's say that someone wakes up and their accounts are all zeroed out. Typically, if someone like sits and they think about that, oh my God, the emotions that are coming in their body, right? But that's just something that we've related. Like if we started on this earth today and had no past, that emotion would not come up based on that language, those words that have been said.

39:10Right, right. And so we are bypassing, we're bypassing ourselves, but I think it's more than just the mind. Yeah, because the visual of like going into a room and kind of navigating a room full of people and the energy and kind of being able to be open. And I love that example because I've been in many rooms with lots of people. And I've had experiences where I've felt so present and open and almost like unattached in a way. Like unattached sounds not quite the right word, but it feels like I don't have any expectations, but I have intention. So going into a room and saying, you know, I just want to be myself.

39:59I feel like myself and be open and just, yeah, I'm open to the people I'm going to meet. And yeah, I'm in my curiosity, et cetera. um and then I've had times when I'm like super anxious and I'm thinking about was I weird in that conversation and like does that person like know me but they're not saying they know you know like just weird psychic conversations I'm having and it totally and then I leave that experience just with a weight that I didn't have when I walked in the room yeah I'm glad it's so great you brought this up because it also ties into the to the cyclical thing. So that first example you gave, you're whatever's going on in your life and your state of being, you're not in a state of needing.

40:46Right. So then you walk in the room in a different way, right? And that does tie into cyclical nature within ourselves and astrologically. And there's a lot going on there, right? That second state, you're needing something from the room. Validation. Something. Something. There's something missing when you walk in. So, you know, my mantra for my life is, you know, show up needing nothing, receive all. I love that. It's beautiful. And so how can we do that when the conversation turns to money? Most people can't. Most people can be just themselves and fully open and present when it's a conversation about spirituality or children or.

41:31anything, but then the moment it shifts to money, why is it that it's energetically different? Yeah. It's so, I feel like it's so culturally coded. It's coded in our past. You know, it's like, it's such a, I can feel the shift and it's not necessarily me, but I've witnessed people, whether it's like they need to get a deal done or they need to raise money or, you know, there's just, there's like an agenda. Yeah. But that's actually, that's actually when money goes back into the 3D because then that's when money becomes limited because the agenda is limited by our own limited beliefs of how it needs to happen.

42:09So the greatest opening to money, money neutrality would be, you know, when I walked in and then I hugged you and I just felt like a warmth, right? So I didn't need to know anything about your past. I didn't need to know anything about you at all, but that was a powerful moment. And so then I guess the question becomes, why aren't we living for those? I think it's because we don't believe that money is going to come to us or let's just say abundance. But how could we not? Like the most powerful moment is when a child is born. We all feel love there, right? What brings us out of that state is the more interesting question because in that state, anything comes to you.

42:51Yeah. From that place, I think I felt my most powerful. I felt my most myself, even though I'm like completely new. So I guess that's kind of likened to like every moment. Yeah, like every moment. Your self is completely new. Yes, yes. We think ourselves is the old version. And that's why, again, let's talk about this language that we're outgrowing. Be your authentic self. What is that? Right. That's ego. Totally. That's ego. I know, Grissa and I, every time we say the word authentic, we're like, exactly. Because it's just so overused, too. Yes, exactly. Exactly. But it's like we go through and we have all this and then we're like, okay, if we didn't have it, we could now grow it.

43:37And that brings me to kind of this idea and like the world that we are in of just like self-development and growth and healing and like fixing ourselves on this never ending train ride of just like what's the next thing I can fix about myself and I was on that train for a long time and I think it was a it was helpful until it wasn't and then it became like my personality and all I felt like I needed to do and then I wasn't really living my life I was just kind of like trying to fix myself in order to live my life so what have you seen I guess in your and your work with people related to this kind of new age obsession with trying to like heal ourselves and better ourselves and how it's kind of how that's related to money?

44:29Well, I think there's two sides because like you help so many people. I mean, you're a voice for so many people. So I mean, we can look at this as had you not gone through that and almost hit a wall with it? Would you even have an empathetic connection or level of understanding to even bring that forward even in this conversation? Because someone else out there is like, holy shit, I feel like that, right? So to a certain degree, we can say everything is perfect, right? But then the other flip side of the coin is when personal development actually becomes ego. And I think that actually, it's kind of like the snake eating the tail, though, because personal development is increasing our level of awareness.

45:11So it kind of is its own designed system to fix itself because at some point your level of awareness is going to be to the degree that you're going to feel your ego in that. Right. And I think I got to that point. Yeah. And then all that happens is you just go perp and you just take a hairpin turn with it. What I find that really helps people is, and I always say this, I say this in the programs too, which is whatever lands with you, like even listening to this, like if you've taken one thing, if you get one takeaway, I think that people are better off just completely going vertical on that rather than trying to take in the whole thing and trying to figure out the whole thing.

45:54Because going vertical is how you're discovering the new version of you. And that's really all you're trying to do. You're not trying to make it look like I think or somebody else thinks, right then from there is where you're going to find the answer you know people come into the program and the first thing that I do is it's scramble it's leave it all behind because you're not really listening when you're trying to figure something out it's very true in your work you talk about legacy and you also talk about wealth and I think they're obviously connected but I the The language around that is interesting to me because I feel like I don't hear a lot of people, and I could be wrong, maybe I'm just in weird circles, but like talk about legacy.

46:40It's about this kind of like very immediate moment wealth rather than thinking about legacy. Explain the difference in your mind. um i think i think about legacy in the like the frequency of what you've done on this earth how that has impacted the people around you especially i feel like family and friends or just kind of community. And that might include money. That probably has money involved. But there's like a richness to legacy. There's like a, yeah, it's not just like a, you know,$5 million trust. It's like, yeah. What does legacy give us? That's a great question. I think for me, a sense of direction almost, a sense of, I think there's like purpose there.

47:44but it's almost like if someone has a legacy, it's almost like it inspires me. If there's a positive legacy, it, yeah, it makes me feel something. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think, I think legacy could be an avoidant, like we keep going back to this, but almost like, okay, you want to leave a legacy. You want to leave like tons and tons of money for your, of money for your children. That's one aspect of it, right? That could be a fear thing. legacy is a function of i'm not here working for me i'm working for others is one thing but you can't work for others until you work for you and so the the greater wealth that you allow in it's just like love because it's the same thing the greater love that you allow in is the greater that you're in the self-expression of that.

48:41And so I think legacy is actually starts within and then radiates out. And so people who were trying to build legacy wealth from a spreadsheet type of formula, I don't know that they're really tapping into the benefit of what legacy is. And I think it's much more powerful to do it from a place of you can't give from an empty cup. Right. See, I can't figure out. This is something that's fascinating to me. I can't figure out why people don't see wealth as one of their greatest responsibilities because most people believe that if someone came up to them and gave them a billion dollars, that they could go out into the world and be the light.

49:35that they wanted to be. They could go like, you know, pull through the drive through at a, at a fast food restaurant and tell everyone to quit your jobs and go do what you love. Like the magnificence that people can get into when they feel like they would have that, like money's not a thought even like, like money is not no longer an issue yet. That's not what people are doing. Like they don't feel that responsibility. They're not building their life around. They're not getting up every day going, seeing that wealth is freedom. Right. I can't figure that out. Do you think we have kind of like an upper limit on that based on?

50:16I think it has, it's something to do with worthiness. Yeah. But the thing is worthiness is ego because if I was thinking about everyone else out there, I would be more responsible to be wealthy. but I also think with just this ability now to see other people's quote lives I think they're like highlights of people's lives on social media and what we you know what we're seeing it's just like an onslaught of like other yeah all day long for a lot of people who have you know a phone in their pocket yeah um I've experienced this where it's just like this well why me or why or how or will they have it so I just create this whole reasoning or even non-reasoning why it's not possible or why you know I have a limit on what I can do or create or earn I've been there and so I think in seasons where I've really cut out the noise and not looked at other people's lives and stuff and all the things.

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54:07Yeah. I think it's the same thing as walking in the room because the phone, the scrolling, they're the entities in the room. Yes, yes, yes, yes. And so it's going back to what's the entanglement. Very, very, very, very much so. What are we needing in that? Because I think that we're needing to see ourselves in someone that we're scrolling through. We're needing that jolt. Give me that burst. It's almost like give me that hit of I'm going to feel better. You see the post where it's just like the statements and like all the spiritual statements. And it's like we feel like we need a download of these things when that's not a download.

54:45What is that? Validation. Yeah. Propping up. Avoidance. How do you get your downloads? I create effortless in my life. I get more when I look at my life as a whole. So I look at wealth from a 50 ,000-foot level. I look at my life as that. and I go, okay, well, where in my life is, do I have a relationship that's not, that's not good, that needs some attention? Where in my life am I not like, you know, have I not been getting sleep or eating and to a certain degree, like that's kind of the easy stuff because that will raise our frequency. But I look at what's not working in my life. And as soon as I open that up, then I can actually go back to I have this practice I do and it's just like I learned it from show jumping because I would like the they would blow the whistle before you got in the show jumping ring and you had to go to the judge and you salute and I would just on my horse I would just drop my weight in and I would just go empty, empty, empty and I literally can visualize that there is nothing in my body and then I would go into the course and And it was just my horse and I, and we would just completely flow together.

56:04And I knew that I already knew the course because you have to memorize it. But I knew that it was going to be there when I needed it. You know, it was going to come into the 3D and all that we've learned. Our past is going to be there when we need it. We don't have to keep creating from it. We can be fully present here in the moment, and our past is going to come up when we need it. Like if you go to step out on the street, you're going to know to stop if a car is coming. I don't need to repeat to myself, the car's coming, the car's coming, the car's coming. But that's what people do in their lives.

56:35They're constantly beating themselves up with all they've got to do and all they have to do with money. And there's all these rules. And what if we just let that go? I think we have a discomfort with being out of some form of control. It's a control thing. And even though it's not really control, it's not always controlling the thing. it's just the act of trying to control that I think gives us that sense of something I don't know do you think that it's people are afraid to meet that version who is quote-unquote out of control yeah oh for sure yeah for sure and that and that um being energetically tapped in has been sold to us as being out of control because that's actually our point of greatest control and we can't be controlled.

57:25I don't know. In my world, I don't feel like it's been sold to me as out of control to be energetically tapped in. I think for a lot of people, they feel like it's out of their realm of possibility, which is crazy. But I feel like, and this is just my experience when I was, there was a point at which I kind of felt like I was, like there's this hierarchical thing of like that person's more psychic that person's more intuitive I'm on the outside like I'm not quite there yet like just kind of creating this weird hierarchy of like I can't energetically tap in you know that's for someone like you you know do you ever meet former co-workers people in your former industry that feel that or like kind of give that energy of like, yeah, I can't do what you do.

58:20Like I can't. All the time. Yeah. And it's just, it's, it's fascinating. Cause I think it, I think there's a deep, there is a part of everyone. Oh, obviously everyone can do this, but it's like, what is that? What stops them? It's how they would be seen. Well, yeah, I'll tell you what it requires. Yeah. I'll tell you for me, and this is probably going to sound like the, like the silliest thing in the world, but And to be honest, like, I think the secret to it is I just don't care. Yeah. Like, I deeply care about people, of course, from an empathetic. But I really don't. I don't care. Like, I don't go into a room and think about what are people going to think about what I look like?

59:03Or what are people going to talk to me? Or I don't feel different if I'm standing there on my own or if I'm in a conversation. Like, and I've always been like that since a child. And I think that that has been a little bit more of it, not to say that I haven't, you know, had to also like, you know, look at myself and stop filtering in some areas. But I bucked the system on that conditioning. It's powerful. And I think a lot of the, especially like the kids now, I think they're, I think they're, they are in their own power a lot more. I agree with you. Because we don't have that. So I think if we just really see that it's just simply like, can you just give yourself permission to not fucking care?

59:46And you could probably stop all the personal growth, right? It is. It is so much because I think so much of what drives our personal growth these days or in a lot of scenarios is for other people and we don't even realize it. Like I worked with a lot of women during, for many years during their single season and like they wanted to like heal and fix themselves in order to be in there. Oh yeah. Isn't that great? Oh, I love that. I love that. We could, I mean, that's one of those things. It's like, okay. And I get it because I feel like I had a moment where that was my truth as well. But then when you realize that that's like an itch you'll never truly scratch and also that like even more so in a relationship to be an imperfect in process, like parts of you unhealed person is actually like kind of the dimension.

1:00:49Yes, you're right. Of the relationship and some of that growth is supposed to be done together on a soul level. And you're supposed to be witnessed by someone. Like part of what has been so uncomfortable but also incredible for me is being witnessed by my husband as I've grown through things. Yes. And being okay with that and being okay to be like, this is like so ugly, uncomfortable, whatever. And him still being like, I love you. Like, what do you, I'm not going anywhere. And so I think we rob ourselves sometimes when we're so head down, so focused and obsessed with ourselves, trying to heal ourselves.

1:01:30And we don't pick our head up and just be like, wait. You're so spot on with that. You're so spot on. And you really actually just explained like the nonlinear aspect of money because what you said is dimension. so in a relationship we understand the value of of and the healing that goes on when we're in the dimension of a relationship we understand and we're okay that it's not supposed to be a linear aspect to it it's not supposed to exist in time it's a relationship and then we go over here boop over here to money and we go money is energy most people will say that but that's just a concept the embodiment of it is are you willing to live and operate with money as it is a dimension and i love that you use that word because if we are then we would look at ourselves inside of that dimension what i'm hearing too is just this ability and gift of seeing ourselves as so much more than just like a person on earth trying to create wealth and you know make it in this life and be successful and and not not selling ourselves short and just kind of living on that one linear kind of track and being able to see and tap in as much as we can to those different dimensions of ourselves of our energy and then experience the multi-dimensionality of everything else of money of relationships of yeah all the things yeah yes I think that's it and and I will so I'll add a flair to that right which would be expect to be the wealthiest person that you know and if that if there's something that comes up in your body when you say that to yourself like just look at that, why would you not want to be the wealthiest person that you know?

1:03:29It's because you have some kind of relationship that's going to take something away from you. It's going to cause you to be something that you don't want to be. There's some sacrifice. If you wouldn't want full, full abundance, there's a sacrifice there that's hiding. Because full abundance in any area is just going to make it's just going to help you open up more and more of your power that's it and so it's expecting to be wealthy yeah from a place of of ease and kindness and joy and it feels also like being open and willing to kind of what how money helps you to evolve because I feel like I feel like there's a money helps that person that you don't want to talk to every day go away that that conversation in you yeah I think yeah I I completely feel that and I feel like for me I'm just hearing like a shift in instead of money kind of like solving a bunch of problems for me it's like actually inviting money in and embodying that belief of I am the wealthiest person I know cracks like some of the lies and like kind of opens me up to that next level of me so it's almost like this evolution partner yes like where if you're willing if you're willing to be in conversation and just really look at that then it could be your greatest partner in like your evolution absolutely yeah you're exactly right it's your agreement are you agreeing to be that that's that's the only money block there is yeah all this stuff about conditioning and i need to heal all the and my my father did this and all that like that's just slowing us down.

1:05:30I know. It's are you in agreement to being the wealthy person that you the wealthiest person you know? Because you should be. I mean, let's talk about you. You're out here speaking to millions of people like I mean, you please be one of those people. Yeah, please be because you're you're you're the self expression of you is changing the world. don't we want to have full abundance to people that are doing that and if you believe if anyone believes that they're one of those why how could you possibly not believe that you should be the wealthiest person that you know right and then that in itself that belief automatically causes you to make decisions boom boom boom it'll come in so fast because you can't be the wealthiest person that you know and not look at your account.

1:06:27You can't be the wealthiest person that you know and not invest. I don't know a single wealthy person who does not invest. In this economy, you cannot save your way to financial freedom. It's just not possible. So get in reality with where you are now. If you have debt, okay, that's abundance. It's money. It was abundance at one time. It still can be abundance. See money as ones and zeros. Money is only the energy that you put into it. The moment that you're in agreement that you are the wealthiest person that you know, everything will shift with your money because you will be responsible for making now instead of 15 decisions a day that are just reiterating your past self with money and trying to fix it, trying to get better, trying to get up an hour earlier, you'll be done with all the doing and those 15 decisions will be new.

1:07:20And then your work becomes to allow them to be so new that you're literally like looking at yourself going, did I just do that? It's that feeling like, did that just come out of my mouth? Have money, have that place at the table with you. Yeah. Where you're like, shit, who is that? It will change everything. Yeah, I think, I love this. I think I feel a lot of people's heads nodding. I think that's such a powerful example of what that feeling is because I think so many of us walk around, myself included, sometimes where I get so – because I'm to a fault like very self-aware. So when I am reverting back to that past self or I'm thinking about her or I'm judgmental love her or I'm like wait I'm doing that thing that I did you know like just very in that yeah I feel so trapped I feel so uninspired I feel so down on myself like and I and and logically speaking like there's no way that I am going to be able to walk into any room create from a place of like just full-blown openness and abundance.

1:08:42And it's just so interesting how that happens and how that becomes kind of a little loop that we hop on. And so to kind of like shake us from that and be able to make, simply make everything feel like new, those decisions feel new. For me, that just like turned on a light bulb where I'm like, oh, right. Because so much of like my daily, I feel like I'm in decisions or moments where it doesn't feel new. Some does, but like where I'm really making decisions based on, well, what did I do before? Or like, let me fix what I did. You know, just always kind of connecting dots to the past. And it's holding me down.

1:09:32Yes, I love this. It's the normalization. Yeah. normalization doesn't mean right yeah totally and and just a pattern you know like it's just like so funny how we can become just like these little pattern followers so easily and not realize that at least for me sometimes that becomes like the root of my unhappiness yes because i'm just stuck in a pattern it's not the thing it's not not having the thing it's just like i'm stuck talk this is really frustrating to my soul like where are we like getting out of here you know yes yeah amazing yeah I think that you've shifted a lot I know this conversation have you learned a lot I feel like we had a conversation already before I will say being pregnant again has made me even more intentional about the choices I'm making I've done a few episodes on this I found myself reading labels more closely investing in higher quality products and asking what do I actually trust enough to use every single day.

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1:11:13And I love that ritual aligns with the choices I am already making. They're non-GMO, gluten and major allergen free, and don't use synthetic colorants. Don't settle for less than evidence-based support. Save 25 % on your first month at ritual.com slash almost 30. That's ritual.com slash almost 30 for 25 % off your first month. A little bit. So we'll talk about it. Yeah. I feel like I was, I was picking up on Ari. I'm like, wow, Ari needs to hear this conversation too. Um, last question. I'm just, I'm so curious how you work with people, um, and just what that looks like. And,

1:11:58And I feel like we're coming and what differentiates kind of the experience. And this is not like a sales thing. It's more so I feel like we're coming out of an era, at least in my world, where there was kind of this onslaught of like the programs and the memberships and the people and the coaches. And then you're like, wait, who should I work with? Or like, is this, you know, just all of this stuff, you know. And so who is coming to you and how would you describe the experience for people listening? I think, you know, we talked about like the advanced conversation. So people who come to me, they're just tired of the words and the kind of the stuff that we talked about, right?

1:12:47I'll say only work with people because this is really true. I think that honestly, by the time you get to where we're working together, you're going to be willing to go vertical. Yeah. You're going to be willing to take on what you just went through with that agreement. Because otherwise, we're not a match. Like if you're not willing to not be who you were. And like I always tell people when they come in, I'm like, you didn't pay me to be your best friend. So it's, I don't want to say intense because it's not. it's just very deep work and it's in in linear time it's actually quite fast like I run a mastermind that's 12 weeks and by week three um people are looking around blinking and what they find is that is that they say the same thing they're like we definitely you know we're here to learn about investing in money because we do that we all invest together and all that but like Like we've realized now that's not the only reason we're here, right?

1:13:47And so it's like cracking open something where they're going bigger in the world. And so it's a parallel thing. You're helping people be wealthy. And I'm meeting them at a level where it is a greater level of consciousness. They've done what they need to do. But it's also they're willing to take on a new agreement, like a bigger agreement than they've ever taken on, right? So it's meeting them at that level. Then I come in with the, okay, this is how you read the market. I mean, I've been investing for 25 years and it's not that difficult. You can read between the lines of the market. You can make money in any stock market.

1:14:27All this you see on the news about, oh, the market's up, the market's down, da-da-da-da. You can see right through that. And so it's actually empowering people with that type of knowledge. And I'm always working with people in a way that they don't need me anymore after this. Like you can come into this container again willing to. It's not about time. It's about energetic connection to it. and then you go out and either you're helping other people or you're some kind of greater self-expression in the world. And it's just sticking with that. And it's an emotional journey. It is a shifting journey.

1:15:12But it's not just shifting for them. Every mastermind, and we do have, you know, you talk about the memberships and stuff, we do have sort of like lower price points where people can jump in, you know, the SI clubs like$17 a month or whatever, that you can sort of get your feet wet, but I change. I mean, I am so different after every mastermind, you know, or event or whatever. And I'm discovering the new version of me, but I'm not there for me, if that makes sense. That's just happening in the process. But I think that's what you were talking about earlier, too, of like, that is the state in which you should be in.

1:15:51Yes. It's an easy, it's such an easy way to live. Yes. Would you also liken it to and simplify it to people doing what they love or being lit up by? Or is that different? I think that's different. Oh, interesting. Okay. Yeah. Because I think you can still, I think you can be doing what you love. Yeah. And then in the background, what you're not saying is you're still scared shitless. Mm-hmm. And people think doing more of what you love is going to help you not be scared. Doing what you love from a place of you actually not, you almost not being there. I think that is a completely different state of being.

1:16:36Yeah, I felt that, yeah. That we're not really actually just talking about just yet. I think conceptually we've been sort of like dancing around it. Yeah. But I don't think we've brought it in yet to a fully integrated place. And I liken it to, you know how when someone, you know, you're going back to this walk in the room. You know when someone walks in the room and you're like, you kind of have to look. That's the energy I'm talking about. Are people doing what they love from that energetic standpoint? Oh, we could talk for hours. I wish we could. This has been incredible. Thank you. We should probably do a part two and I'll come to the farm.

1:17:15Yes. How about it? Let's do that. um thank you thank you thank you I I know that at least one thing I'm I'm pretty certain more has deeply resonated with people listening um I'm someone who loves to like write things down and even if it's just like words one-liner like the power of language you know and just to kind of have that um so I just encourage people to write anything down in this moment if it just feels really resonant in your heart. Um, but where can people find you connect with you? Thespiritualinvestor.com. I think that's probably the best place. It'll tell all and the spiritual investor podcast.

1:17:56I mean, that's a bit of it. That's a bit of a deep dive right there. Yeah. Amazing. Dig in, subscribe. Um, and you were so generous. You're giving our audience three free months of the SI club. Yes. Yes, we are. Yeah. Amazing. So that's$70 a month value. They can sign up. Um, we have a link in the show notes, use the code almost 30 to get the discount. Um, yeah, I'm so thankful. Thank you for that. That would be so great for people. Thank you for doing this and your resonance with people, you know, like, yeah, I'm thankful. I think incredible it's a it's been a very unexpected gift you know like I we didn't plan to do a podcast we didn't plan to be here 10 years later but it's just an interesting um it's part of what we've been talking about you know just like really embodying I think what we know is um the mission which I think has like put a put us out of the way and really served people you know even though we're the face of the brand I sometimes we forget that we're like wait what see so you're already doing what we talked about right because you are just being you here because this is a thing people can only connect with just that version of you and so your presence here creates that resonance and so it's like this it's like this language that you're speaking to so many people.

1:19:24So thank you for that. Oh, thank you. Yeah. Appreciate you. Amazing. All right, everybody. Thanks for listening. We'll see you on the next one. Thank you so much, Elizabeth Ralph. She is the spiritual investor. She has a podcast and you can find more information about her masterminds and retreats at the spiritual investor.com. All right, guys, enjoy this one. Remember morning microdose also is there for you five days a week, ad free, just providing you with inspiration and insight. It's between five and 10 minutes on your phone. That's Morning Microdose. All right, everybody. We'll see you on the next one.

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