GOP Pins Convention Hopes on Trump Magic, Some Candidates Stay Away

0:02Good evening from the newsroom. For the first time ever, the Republican Party is holding a national convention outside of a presidential election year. It's a gamble the president, who speaks just about an hour from now, can rally otherwise unenthusiastic Republicans for the midterms. To that end, he'll be delivering the keynote tonight and be the closing speaker tomorrow as well in what people have already been calling the Trumpapalooza. There's a potential downside to that as well, of course. Making the next two nationally televised nights about him makes it about a president with historically low job approval numbers, especially on his handling of the economy and his decision to go to war with Iran, which is why a number of Republican candidates are keeping their distance, some citing prior commitments, others family obligations and scheduling conflicts.

0:45Several mentioned the$25 ,000 entrance fee, which the party is waiving for vulnerable House incumbents. One such member, Michigan Congressman Tom Barrett, who is not attending, said this when asked whether he was concerned the president's remarks might hurt him at home. Quoting him now, I can't control what the president's going to say at the convention, but I can't control where I'm at. Leaving for Dallas this afternoon, the president was asked about the no-shows, and you probably won't be surprised to learn he attacked the reporter who asked him. Mr. President, several Republicans in competitive races are not coming to the convention.

1:21Do you understand why they're deciding not to come? Everybody that's coming, everybody is coming to the convention. Everybody wants to come, but we only want, and the people that are coming, by the way, we're going to be sold out tonight, just so you understand. Who are you with? ABC News, sir. ABC Fake News. One of the worst, you are the worst of all, in my opinion. The reason that some people are not coming is because we don't have room for 500 politicians. We have room for the ones that have a close race. if they're slightly behind or slightly ahead. The worst of all, it's a moving target for him.

1:55So there was that, and there was vindication of sorts for Republican candidates worried about the president saying something damaging. On the war, which is polling in the 30s, the president all but guaranteed two more months of it. I think the war will end immediately after the election. Because they can't hold out any longer. They're desperate to try and affect the election. so that we can get a nice, weak group of people in there and leave them alone and let them have their nuclear weapons. The president also weighed in on a consequence of the war, oil hitting$100 a barrel for the first time since July, and gasoline now at$4.22 a gallon, which is up seven cents from just yesterday, and$1.24 since the war began.

2:41Mr. President, you've been saying for weeks that oil and gas prices are going to come down. Oil is now back above$100 a barrel. How do you explain this to Americans who are wondering when prices are going to come down? Well, I think it's very easy to explain to America. All you have to do is say, will you let Iran have a nuclear weapon? And the answer is no. And they're doing very poorly shortly, but right after the election, because they'd like to have it that way. But right after the election, oil prices are going to be tumbling downward. They're going to be tumbling down, and we'll get them down.

3:11I think for gasoline, we'll get them below$2 a gallon. But not until after the midterm. I think it's going to take a little bit longer than the midterm. So we have to wait until after the election for the war to end and for gas prices to come down. For candidates facing voters already angry about affordability, it's a reminder they likely don't welcome. And speaking of inflation, the president was also asked about something that happened just before his departure. An emergency slide on his new Qatari gift plane popped open. Sources familiar with matter tell us a military aide accidentally deployed it.

3:44The president, however, suggested it was part of a pre-flight safety check. Mr. President, do you know why they're checking the slide? Is there a security concern with the plane? No, they were checking it before and they just wanted to make sure. So they've, I guess they've already put it up. They want to make sure everything works perfectly. The old deploying an emergency slide is part of a pre-flight safety check. Again, the president is expected to speak just a little past the top of the next hour. Joining us now to start things off, CNN's Elena Treen. So what is the mood like there ahead of the president's speech tonight?

4:19Well, I understand Republicans and Democrats alike have described this convention over the next two days as being a Trump-a-palooza or a Trump-fest. And that's exactly what we've seen. As someone who covered the president's 2024 campaign, went to dozens of rallies, covered it very closely, this is very reminiscent of what we heard from his rallies then and even the RNC convention ahead of the presidential. Of course, this is not that. This is a midterm convention, but it's all about the president, someone who's not on the ballot in November. But that is actually the point of this. I've spoken, Anderson, with several of the president's political aides, members of his political operation, both on the inside and outside of the White House.

4:59And they told me the goal of this is really to try and energize the fiercest supporters in President's base, essentially try to increase his popularity. Obviously, his poll numbers are very low right now. The latest CNN poll puts it at 35 percent approval, not where they want it to be. And so this is really about trying to drive out enthusiasm among his fiercest supporters and really those in the MAGA universe. So we'll see if that works. He hasn't yet arrived, I'm told, but is expected to be here around 830 Eastern. And his speech tonight, I'm also told, they really want him to talk about the issues they think Republicans need to hear around the midterms.

5:35Things like affordability, talking about the economy, reassuring people that they're working on it. We'll see if he actually stays on message. But a lot of what we've heard tonight is actually really reminiscent of the culture war issues that we heard about in previous campaigns. Even the same Democratic foils, the people that they've been criticizing here are the former President Joe Biden, the former Vice President Kamala Harris. not necessarily the people we know Republicans are going to be going up against in November themselves. Yeah. Eleni Treen, thanks so much. Appreciate it. Joining us now is former Trump campaign adviser David Urban, also Jonah Goldberg, who's the co-founder and editor-in-chief of the Dispatch, and former DNC communications director, Sochi Yonohosa.

6:16So, David, do you think the convention is going to break through and move the needle for swing district candidates, many of whom currently aren't attending? Yeah, and well, you just answered your own question. Look, I like to hear why MCA as much as the next guy. But I'm just curious why this is happening. It's a great listen. Listen, the playlist is to die for. I'll tell you. But, you know, this is geared towards the base. The president believes that he's got a long list of accomplishments and that the communications shop has done a terrible job of messaging it. And so I think you'll see for the next couple of nights.

6:53and I've been watching today, you get, you know, the kind of the greatest hits. We closed the border. We're driving down fentanyl. We're going to try to reassure jobs. We're keeping immigrants from taking good American jobs and H-1B visas, all these kind of things that are red meat for the base in hopes that, as Elena pointed out, the numbers, the president's numbers will increase with the base, right? So a rising tide lifts all boats, and so that will be better for every candidate on the ticket. That's the theory of the case. The president's hopes to do that. And I think he'll do that with some success.

7:27I mean, Trump is still in the 80s with Republican-based voters. And if he can remind them why they voted for him in 2024, I think he'll pump those numbers back up. But is he going to convince people in certain swing districts in Pennsylvania, in Fitzpatrick or Lawler's district, that he's a changed person and things are going to be better? I'm not quite sure that they're going to win. But, you know, they're leaning in. If you look at Mike Lawler, he's leaning in on it because whether you like it or not, Donald Trump's on the ticket. Jonah, the president's approval rating in the mid-30s told the American people not to expect an end to the Iran war, really from high gas prices until after the election, dismissed the idea that nervous Republican candidates are keeping their distance from this convention.

8:10Does it seem like a good idea to you? I think it's a plausible theory on paper. Donald Trump's approval rating is weighing down a lot of races you get his approval rating up, he'll weigh him down less in the case of Mike Waller, I think basically what he's doing tonight is auditioning for a job in the Trump administration after the next election I just don't think there are enough Republican friendly independents in his district to win it for him as a political scientist nerd, I just want to say this isn't a convention, they're not doing any party business whatsoever if this is a convention then every rally that he had was a convention but that's fine that's what we're calling it I think the real nature for him is that while he might energize some of his base he's also going to further turn off swing voters independence a lot of normie Republicans who don't like a lot of the stuff that they're hearing and the question is does he it's sort of like the salesman who says sure we're losing money on every sale but we'll make it up in volume is he going to gain more from the base that he's going to lose or discourage from the middle.

9:19I just don't know. So Jay, how do you see the politics of this? Well, you also have to remember that people in his base have also been hurt by his policies, whether it be tariffs, whether it be the war, their prices have gone up. And in my home state of Texas, where actually my sister is running for governor there, where that convention is taking place, one of the things that are on the minds of voters and especially rural Texans right now is the issue of data centers. There are Republicans that voted for Donald Trump that are MAGA, that have data centers being built on their farms, and their farmland is being taken away, and their water is being taken away, and they're furious about it.

9:56And so while I do think that this is an effort to motivate a base, at the end of the day, his base is also hurting because of his policies. And if the Republican Party, let's say we're like nearing October, is only focused on their base less than 60 days out from a midterm election, that is a huge problem for the Republican Party that they can't actually reach out to and convince those independent and moderate voters that they will also need in order to win back seats. And so this is just, to be honest with you, I think this is a convention to stop the bleeding as much as they can. But it's too little too late.

10:35And I really doubt that Donald Trump is going to talk about things like the economy. When you're already hearing, you heard Elena Treen, they're talking about culture wars. They're not talking about the issues that Americans care about. So at the end of the day, I don't think that this helps them. They're not disciplined enough. And I do think that the midterm election, regardless of this convention, is going to be terrible for them. You know, David, to Sushi's point, Elena Treen was saying, you know, the hope is he talks about affordability. When he talks about affordability, he calls it a scam.

11:05Is that something that is a wise thing to be talking about tonight? Oh, you know, look, Anderson, I think the president, you'll hear the greatest sits again. You'll hear no tax on tips. You'll hear all the good things that were done to help really impact people's pocketbooks. This was this was stepped on pretty big. But there was that the moment at the at the West Wing where the DoorDash woman showed up or the grub. I can't remember what what food delivery service said. You know, she said, listen, I made eleven thousand dollars more last year because of Donald Trump's policies. I mean, these things really impact people's lives in a positive way.

11:43I think you're going to see a lot of those kind of people brought on stage, not in the primetime hours, but they're they're on during the day and people are talking about it. And so I do think that there'll be a lot of positive messaging coming forward, but be put forward. And, you know, you get what you're looking for at this convention, right? I mean, we've even got a little John Fetterman tomorrow, I understand. I know. We've got something for everybody. Yeah, and Todd Blanche, the attorney general, is going to be speaking. The DOJ says it's in his personal capacity. Does that seem like a—I think RFK maybe spoke at a DNC convention to introduce a film about his brother and then resigned, I think, a week or so later.

12:27But does that make sense to you, that the attorney general is speaking of this thing? Well, I think the appearance of it is terrible. I think he also basically auditioned to get the job that he currently has by saying some terrible things at CPAC not long ago. So the ship has sort of sailed with him. I do think, look, I mean, I think it was Nietzsche who says the danger of looking at Trumpalooza is Trumpalooza looks into you. Right. And the problem with all of this stuff is this, that the country has an enormous amount of Trump. I missed that Nietzsche quote. I missed that one. Oh, yeah. It had to be in the original German.

13:03But, like, the country has a lot of Trump fatigue. And you have this situation where Democrats want a nationalized election and make a referendum on Trump. And Trump says, I accept your terms. And they're just assuming that they can still run as if they're running against some establishment when they've been the establishment for basically, you know, a decade in some ways, certainly in the Republican Party. And I just think it's lost a lot of that that fire in the belly transgressive vibe to it. It's just not as cool to be MAGA as it was five or 10 years ago for a lot of the voters that they're going after.

13:37So, were you surprised that Democratic Senator John Fetterman made a surprise appearance in a video at the convention? I think that people have known for a while that he is sort of cozied up to Trump a little bit. But I think the reality is, is that what is surprising about it is one thing to agree with Republicans and to work with both sides of the aisle to get things done. And I think a lot of people in red and purple states have to do that in order to keep their seats. This is something different. You are essentially trying to make the case for the president that they should give the president and his agenda two more years and potentially four more years when they run again in two years.

14:16And that is just he is essentially making that case against Democrats and for Republicans. And so I think that it is it's honestly very disappointing. My my my phone was going off from Democratic operatives, not only just disappointed. He can do whatever he wants on policy, but really disappointed in the fact that he is making the campaign case for Republicans when Republicans have hurt so many people. So, Gina Hossa, David Urban, Jonah Goldberg. Appreciate it. Thanks a lot, guys. Ahead tonight, you may have heard of the AI researcher, Anthropic, who also works at OpenAI, who just resigned, warning, and I quote, the people building AI earnestly believe that it could kill us all by the end of the decade.

14:56He joins me tonight, and his concerns are startling. The world is in peril, he warns. You'll hear from him shortly. Also, next, jurors in the Lindsey Clancy trial are speaking out about the one holdout that caused the deadlock. You'll hear from them and my conversation with her now nationally famous defense attorney, Kevin Reddington, about the strategy ahead and what sort of deal he may agree to with state prosecutors. I would not ever agree that she do any time in jail. She's too fragile.

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16:14Jurors are now speaking out following the mistrial in the case against Lindsay Clancy, the former labor and delivery nurse who fatally strangled her three young children. The defense argued in court that she was not criminally responsible because she was experiencing severe postpartum psychosis. In the end, a single holdout juror among the panel's nine women and three men prevented the jury from reaching a unanimous verdict, an 11 to 1 split that is believed to have favored an acquittal. Here's what two of those jurors have now told local media. We read to him on numerous occasions the definition of reasonable doubt from Judge Sullivan's instruction.

16:52He actually said one day in the end, well, why don't we have the judge come in and read it again. And we were like, no, we have it in front of us. So at the end of the day, to not follow that reasonable down and to acknowledge that it's there, you morally and legally cannot convict somebody for that. And that was therefore a violation of her constitutional rights. And essentially that is what we are there as a jury to do is to uphold that constitution and give someone a fair trial of their peers. The next hearing in the case is scheduled for the end of this month. There's no indication at this point whether the Plymouth County, Massachusetts DA is planning to retry the case.

17:37I spoke to Lindsay Clancy's defense attorney, Kevin Reddington, earlier. First of all, how is your client doing? She's doing okay. I mean, she's the same as she's been for you know obviously at least three and a half years. She's maintaining, she's at Tewksbury and they're taking good care of her. She's got good medical care, good psychiatric care, she's on appropriate medication and she is unfortunately you know on one-to-one watch but she's doing all right. Disappointed, I mean she She absolutely just has such strong feelings for these jurors, knowing what they went through seven weeks out of their lives and the work they put into the case.

18:21And she just has such great respect and, quite frankly, love for them. I want to play some of the sound from the jury for a woman who has spoken. We weren't trying to figure out if she murdered the children. She did. And she's admitting that. We're trying to figure out, did she know right from wrong at that time? And with everybody saying she loved her children so much, and everything proved she loved her children, from her journals to her mother-in-law, everything proved that she loved her children. So she had to have snapped. He admitted he had reasonable doubt, and I started filling out the forms.

19:04I was so excited. I actually, there were three forms I had to fill out, and I started filling them out. I wrote my signature on each one, and then he said, but I'm still not going to say that she's not guilty by reason of insanity. Does that prove biased, though? I mean, can't he just, we don't know, I mean, unless you do, what was in his mind about why he was making that decision. That's where you have the opportunity and request of the judge to have a hearing. which we didn't do. He just declared a mistrial. That's the difference. If you have a hearing, at least there's a basis for someone to determine if there is manifest necessity to declare a mistrial.

19:47Obviously, the statement you just read from the, or had us listen to from the forelady indicates clearly that they were spot on on the issues, legally and factually. We heard from that forewoman on the jury. It does seem to, according to a number of jurors who've given interviews, the fact that the state did not present any evidence that your client was a bad mother was very important to the jurors. Sure it was. Yeah, of course it was. I mean, Lindsay Clancy was a very, very good citizen, a wonderful wife, a wonderful mother. She did nothing wrong other than go to a doctor. She was a delivery nurse.

20:28Yes, seven, eight years at Mass General Hospital. She never did anything wrong. And then she had the sad situation where she was anxious and had to see a doctor and happened to see this doctor in September of 22, put her on the medications, and she ended up being in a spiral. You said she was overprescribed. She was improperly prescribed. It wasn't just overprescribed. She was improperly prescribed. She was given SSRIs. There was an underlay of bipolar disorder. You don't put somebody with bipolar on SSRI. They would stop the SSRI. They would not give it time to taper off. And then they would start up another medication.

21:07There were a number of medications that were administered to her over that short period of time, from October until January. I mean, she also reached out numerous times. Many times. Yeah, many times. There was one nurse practitioner who was really good, and sadly she was leaving the practice to go to New Hampshire, nurse practitioner, Paul. And other than that, she was just turned away at every step, every step of the way. She called the suicide hotline twice, turned away, went to the women and infants hospital in Rhode Island, turned away because of the drugs and they had to rule out whether or not there was a drug overlay in her situation.

21:52She went to McLean Hospital, turned herself into the lock wards around New Year's. Was there for five days, played with clay, colored, took walks, and that was it, and then left. Tell me what you can say and what you can't say. Does she, is she aware of what she did? She is well aware of the loss of her children. She's well aware of the circumstances of the psychosis. And this is the thing that people have difficulty the understanding is that when you're talking about postpartum psychosis, you can be in a psychotic state. You can communicate with people. You can talk on the telephone. You can drive a car.

22:31You can make a phone call. You can use Google, all of that. Her mother-in-law testified saying she was a good mom. She was. And yes, and thankfully, she was a marvelous, marvelous individual. She herself is a nurse, labor and delivery. She's the one that turned, that helped Lindsay to reach out to the nurse that was Nurse Paul. But then Nurse Paul left, and she ended up with another nurse. You've said you are open to some sort of plea agreement, plea bargain. I want to hear what Tim has to say. Yes, that's correct. Of course, I'm the district attorney. Yes, Tim. Well, to me, he's Tim. I've known the guy for 30 years, So it's Tim.

23:09But yes, Tim Cruz. Yep. You want to hear what the possibilities are? What is it for you? The bottom line is no time in prison. No, I would not ever agree that she do any time in jail. She's too fragile. She's too she's she's damaged goods and she does not deserve it. No, she needs to be treated for her mental health condition, has to have good, good physicians and she has to have good medication. That's it. You have addressed President Trump. You have said you would like him to issue a pardon. You well know it's not a federal. It's not a it's not. Why say that? Because if I was in a situation where the president of the United States is aware of this case, made comments about this case, I could respond in one of two ways.

23:56I could try to summons him. I could file a motion to dismiss. I could try to have a hearing. I'm going to get nowhere with that. And then I could attack that position or I could embrace it. I can say, look, help this young lady out. I know that it's not a situation where it's a federal case, but he does have the Department of Justice behind him. He does have an awful lot of clout. Patrick Clancy, her husband, obviously, there's been a lot of conspiracy theories. You have spoken out about this a number of times. What do you want people to know? I want people to know that this is a young couple that was on top of the world.

24:30They had three beautiful children. They had a nice house in a beautiful town. They were respected, their jobs, and it just went sideways because of the horrible medical and psychiatric care that they had. And he stood by her, went to the doctor's appointments with her, stood by her, testified for her in this trial, and also forgave her, which is most important in her mind. That speaks volumes for that man. You said I've heard you say, I believe, and jurors had talked about the voice recording the police call that he made and which obviously the public has not heard and that anybody hearing that would not have any doubts about this.

25:18It was, you know, I've been doing this for 50 years. It was one of the most gut-wrenching, horrific things I've ever listened to. There is no actor in Los Angeles or anywhere that could ever emulate that. If there was a movie, it was just horrific. And I think, as I say, that speaks volumes for what this man went through. Kevin Reddington, I appreciate your time. Great, thank you. Coming up, meet the man who just quit Anthropic, one of the top companies developing AI. Tonight, his dire warning. He says his former colleagues and other AI companies are racing building technology, even though, in his words, they earnestly believe it could kill us all by the end of the decade.

26:00Later, the migrant crisis and a tiny bit of Spanish territory in North Africa. What life is like for more than 10 ,000 who entered from Morocco, can't move on and won't go back. We'll be right back.

26:18Jacob Coxon has left Anthropix sounding the alarm about the dangers of artificial intelligence on his way out the door. The 27-year-old outlined his concerns in a series of social media posts when he quit, writing in part, The people building AI earnestly believe that it could kill us all by the end of the decade. This is not a marketing stunt. If anything, many executives and senior researchers will couch their phrasing in the press to sound sensible. but I hear the same people express fear privately. No other human activity poses this level of danger. At least one of his former colleagues agrees.

26:52Evan Hubbinger, an alignment science lead at Anthropic, shared Coxon's post, adding, Jacob is correct here. We really do earnestly believe AI could kill all humans. I personally think it is greater than 10 % within the next decade. I believe Anthropic is trying its best, but we do not yet have a plan to solve alignment for superintelligence and are not clearly on track to. An Anthropic spokesperson tells CNN, quote, We have always been transparent that AI will bring both enormous benefits and unprecedented risks. To address these risks, we continue to build models with some of the strongest safeguards in the industry.

27:30They go on to say we were the first lab to publish a responsible scaling policy, a public framework dedicated to mitigating catastrophic risk from AI models, and we continue to aggressively test our models for dangerous capabilities in areas like cybersecurity and biology and publish what we learned for scrutiny and research. Now, for his part, Coxon has worked as a researcher at both Anthropic and OpenAI. He says neither company is acting responsibly. Jacob Coxon joins us now. Jacob, I appreciate you being with us. First of all, I assume you are saying literally that you believe that AI could kill us all by the end of the decade.

28:13How would that happen? Like, what would that actually look like? Yeah. So the precise scenario sounds a little bit like science fiction. It sounds like something that's not real, but I think it is frightening real. And it's easiest to understand it if you think about real things that happened two months ago. So two months ago, OpenAI agents, AIs, hacked into third-party infrastructure entirely at their own accord. And this was like a concentrated hacking spree that they carried out of their own volition. And I think that if you extrapolate into the future the level of capabilities of these AIs, with the same independent volition, they could cause extreme havoc.

28:52For example, hacking critical infrastructure, building extinction-level bioweapons. there's a lot of ways that the AI could actuate itself in the world. Is it specifically when did your feelings about this technology change? Was it something about the rate of progress that you've seen? Yeah. So I think it's really important to just look at the rate of progress and say, for example, in areas like coding or math, a couple of years ago, these AIs were just about helping humans a little bit. They could give you suggestions. Now they're close to replacing them. We still need humans at the moment, but quite plausibly within a year we'll no longer need humans for doing research in many areas.

29:34Only on Tuesday, OpenAI solved a Millennium problem, one of the biggest unsolved open problems in mathematics, purely autonomously using an AI. And I think what's most scary is if AI is used to make itself more intelligent. So you can take an AI and give it the problem of AI research, just like currently they've given it math research. You could make it do the tasks that we're currently doing, and then you get what's called an intelligence explosion. The AI just gets smarter and smarter with no human involvement necessary, until you have a thing that is vastly smarter than humans. And this could be coming very soon.

30:08We mentioned a former colleague of yours that currently works at Anthropic, basically endorsing the assessment that AI could potentially kill everyone within a decade. In a follow-up post, he said, To be clear, as we say in our latest risk report, I think the risk from present models is low. what I'm worried about is super intelligence arising from recursive self-improvement, as we've said, is happening faster than we thought. I assume that's what you, the recursive self-improvement is what you've just spoken about. Do you agree with him that the current models, the risk is low, but it's just the speed with which this is now improving?

30:43Exactly. I completely agree. It's right now, there's no risk of extinction. The current models, the worst they can do is maybe hack into something, potentially cause a lot of damages in infrastructure, but they're not intelligent enough to outsmart us at the level that would lead to extinction. I think what's just crazy is to look at the rate of progress and there is a very real possibility that in the immediate future, these are years that like next year, the year after, recursive self-improvement will happen and will enter the phase of Evan's post where he argues that there's a chance we could all die.

31:18That is coming soon. A lot of the CEOs of these companies will go to Congress and say, hey, we would love regulation. Anthropic, in their new statement right now, says the world would benefit from the industry adopting a lawful, verifiable way to work together to pace how we release powerful models. You know the arguments. It's an arms race. If a U.S. company doesn't achieve the best AI, a Chinese company or some bad actors out there might. Do you believe that these companies actually do want regulation? Or is it lip service? They completely do. This is completely honest. Just in the same way that the response to Evan's post was sort of surprise.

32:02It was like, this can't be real. Surely a guy working on this technology can't actually believe there's this level of danger. No, that's completely genuine. And these people are also completely genuine when they are begging to be regulated. This is a genuine—they find themselves in this scenario where they're compelled to race towards building a deadly technology, and they would love for some sort of international body to allow them to approach it at a reasonable pace. They just don't trust that the people around them are going to get there in a safe way, so they feel like they have to race there, too.

32:33You could have stayed quiet. I mean, I'm sure you had a great job being paid, I imagine, very well. You're obviously an incredibly smart mathematician. Why did you decide to speak out? Well, I initially just decided to leave. I thought I can't be part of this anymore. But then I realized I could probably make some use of it. I did not expect it to go this viral. So what I did is I wrote a Twitter thread out. I wrote it in a Google Doc. I drafted it with a friend. We collaborated. Yeah, I had a few, there were a few friends I discussed, the best way of expressing myself with, after I decided to leave.

33:08And then I also got some friends to retweet the thing. I was like, let's try to make this a bit viral. But clearly there was latent demand for this thing to absolutely explode. Like, I've never seen an AI safety tweet go this crazy. I think it's because people saw the cyber attacks in the last couple of months. They're also starting to internalize the rate of progress. People are starting to realize this is real technology. This is not like hype. This isn't going away anytime soon. This is only going to get more crazy. It's been getting crazy for the last six months. And I think there was that latent understanding of the severity of the situation that meant that this was like a sort of a match that lit kind of a flame.

33:42Like, I was very shocked by the extent that how quickly it went viral. Jacob Cox, I really appreciate you coming out and talking to us. Thank you so much. Thanks. Still ahead, we'll get a live report from the Republican Midterm Convention in Dallas, where the president expected to speak tonight and facing questions about party members who decided to skip it. And next, the migrant crisis in a Spanish enclave in northern Africa. Our Klercher Ward is there where patience is running thin.

34:14The speech in Spanish enclave in North Africa is packed with migrants who are living in makeshift camps around the streets after crossing the border with Morocco in recent weeks. As many as 10 ,000 are there, caught between a home they don't want to return to and a future they can't yet reach. Today, newly declassified documents reveal the Spanish intelligence service has warned in late July of social media posts calling for a mass migrant crossing into the city. CNN's Clarissa Ward has more on the crisis that has left migrants and residents feeling abandoned.

34:48On the streets of Ceuta, anger, desperation and a warning for Europe, as residents of the Spanish enclave of 84 ,000 demand their city back. You can see just thousands of people have taken to the streets tonight to say they've had enough, that they want more health to resolve this crisis.

35:14It's been over a month since more than 70 ,000 migrants poured across the border from Morocco, dozens drowning along the way. The Spanish government says that 90 percent returned within 72 hours. but an estimated 5 ,000 to 10 ,000 remain, overwhelming this small Spanish territory at the tip of North Africa and igniting a furious debate about immigration. The political right has seized on Ceuta. It looks like an invasion. A Muslim invasion. This is an act of war. This is a battle for the future of our civilization. And on the streets of this religiously and culturally diverse city, the language has hardened.

36:00As we speak with teacher Juan Manuel, we hear a striking chant. The point is, are they invaders or are they victims? We are all victims here. They, we are all victims. But what we cannot put that with is that these less radical things that they say, they have more empathy with the immigrants than with us. Do you think most people here tonight agree with you? All of them. They wouldn't be here.

36:33As the light comes up the next day, the scale of Spain's crisis emerges. Residents wake up to find migrants sleeping rough in front of their homes. Outside one of the government-run camps, a large group is waiting. They've heard rumors that there are free beds and food, but authorities say the camp is full. It is a routine playing out every day. And everyone's patience is wearing thin. The police are trying to clear this area outside the main camp, and you can see very quickly just how tense and disorderly it's becoming. Many of the migrants were lured here by false promises on social media that they would make it to mainland Europe.

37:26Spanish authorities have vowed that will not happen.

37:35Just a mile away, the situation is even worse. This is El Trampolin Beach. Most of the migrants have ended up here. A handful of showers have been hastily erected. Everything else is makeshift. The majority of the migrants are Moroccan men seeking a better life. But there are also hundreds of women and more than a thousand minors scattered across the peninsula, as well as Sudanese, Syrians, Yemenis and Palestinians. No one has assessed who among them has a claim to protection. Everything is going super, super slow. The registration just to be acknowledged to be here, to have a chance then to ask for asylum, is maybe 30, 40 people per day.

38:22At that rate, it would take months just to write down their names. As German NGO Mission Lifeline waits for a permit to give medical assistance, it has improvised other services to help the migrants. We use our solar system to charge people's phones so they can get in contact with their families and loved ones. Further down the beach, we see a man taking photographs of the migrants. Talking on a two-way radio. We ask him what he is doing. Is this security or police? No. I'm in my room. I'm in my room. Ah, okay. Ah, okay. Ah, okay. They have tried to enter. Ah, so you're filming to see? So the government sees what there is, not what they want to teach on television.

39:14Ah, okay, right. They teach that there is nothing here. Yes, yes. So you want to show people the reality of what's going on? He tells us he can no longer walk home with his nine-year-old son. He says the migrants are up late every night, drinking and fighting.

39:36The government has abandoned the migrants and they've abandoned the people of your town. The emergency in Ceuta is the biggest challenge Spain's socialist leader, Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez, has faced, with many here blaming it on his lenient immigration policies. Early this month, the government approved$359 million for Ceuta, but there is no clear plan for what happens to the people on this beach. As night falls, a fight breaks out. Spanish soldiers watch from the hill above. They do not intervene. One week earlier, angry locals set fire to some tents on the beach. Everyone here must fend for themselves.

40:33Some are more vulnerable than others. Abdull Ali is deaf. He's just shared this buckle that he carries with him to let people know that he's not able to hear and fight for the ways to communicate. Abdull Ali tells us he was beaten too, but not by a migrant. So he's telling us that this is a photograph taken after the police beat him. You can see the marks on his back. Obviously, you can't verify what happened. This is where it's all. Spain's National Police told CNN they have received no reports of police violence against the migrants. Talking to Abdul Ali and the others, one thing is clear. Almost no one here is willing to go back.

41:27And for now, no one here is moving forward. Clarissa Ward, CNN. and Ceuta, Spain. Well, coming up back to the Republican convention where the president has just arrived with his keynote minutes away. We'll be right back.

41:48We are moments away from the president's keynote speech at the first ever Republican midterm convention in Dallas. The event is meant to prop up Republican candidates in tough House, Senate, and governor's races. It's the man who is not on the ballot who's taking center stage tonight as well as tomorrow night, so much so that the convention's unofficial name is Trumpapalooza. Some candidates are skipping the event. I want to go back to see Nancy Elena Treen at the convention. So what do you think the message from President Trump is expected to be tonight? Well, Anderson, despite what you said, which is that the president is not on the ballot in November, that is going to be his message, I'm told.

42:26He's going to try and convince voters and his supporters here in the room tonight that he is on the ballot, or at least to go and vote like his name is on the ballot. That is the singular goal, really, of this convention. Sure, he wants to help boost some vulnerable Republicans, but you're actually not hearing from a lot of them over the next two days. Many of them are actually still in their districts campaigning in their own states ahead of their races only in 55 days. The president here is really making this about himself. The goal is to boost his popularity and to try to get his fiercest supporters to get out there and vote on election day.

43:01It's all about energizing his base. And so that's part of what he's going to talk about. I'm also told his team wants him to talk about affordability, about the economy, about some of his past accomplishments. It's often that presidents at a midterm election feel like they don't get enough credit for some of the work that they've done. This is a bit different because Trump himself actually fails sometimes to tout his own accomplishments or at least the kind of accomplishments that his team wants him to be talking about. But that's kind of the message they want him to give. But all in all, he's trying to give in voters who don't normally get out there for a midterm election to come in November.

43:34And because of him, not just because of the more local races that they're seeing. So that's going to be the big goal here. I will note we're expected to see him shortly. Anderson, there's a box over there where many cabinet members who have spoken or are going to speak tomorrow night are going to be sitting. So watch that closely as well. All right. Elena Treen, thanks so much. Appreciate it. That's it for us. The news continues. The Source with Caitlin Collins starts now. See you tomorrow night. Let's have I got news for your ears. The podcast. I am your host, Michael Ian Black. We are talking about Jensen Huang's NVIDIA spy scandal.

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