From Waiting Tables to $13,000+/Month in Just 3 Years (Thanks to Rentals)

24 Aug 2026 · 32 min · 19 chapters

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In short

Andres Martinez’s journey from waiting tables to building a rental portfolio (10 owned, 4 managed) generating $13,000+/month cash flow via creative finance and co-living in DFW/Fort Worth, plus lessons on wholesaling, renovations, and tenant management.

Guest backgrounds

Andres Martinez is a Dallas/Fort Worth, Texas real estate investor and co-living operator. He started real estate in Jan 2023 while working as a waiter; he studied jazz in college; he’s an immigrant who began working at 14. He later shifted into being a GC/operations lead for other investors.

Key claims

Direct-to-seller marketing works if you persist (500–600 calls). Co-living can stabilize occupancy with month-to-month onboarding then 12-month leases. Most co-living success comes from tenant pre-screening and systems; contractors are a major risk.

Notable examples

First wholesale deal after 500–600 MLS calls; first co-living property (5→8 rooms) bought sub-2 with $3,000 down, renovated with ~$58,000 raised, launched March 1, rented rooms at ~$8–$8.50 plus $1,000 private bath; net ~$2,700–$2,800 on ~$2,100 PITI. Two contractor “scams” led him to become the operations/GC, and he’s completed 29 co-living projects. Portfolio averages $1,900–$2,000 net per property; he takes home ~$12,000–$14,000/month.

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Introduction to Andres Martinez

0:00 to 1:10

Learn about Andres's journey from waiting tables to real estate success.

“Three years ago, Andres Martinez was waiting tables.”

Andres's Real Estate Journey

1:10 to 9:48

Discover how Andres transitioned from a waiter to a successful real estate investor.

“And today on the BiggerPockets podcast, we're bringing you an investor story with Andres Martinez from Dallas, Texas.”

Andres's Real Estate Journey

9:51 to 10:42

Discover how Andres transitioned from a waiter to a successful real estate investor.

“Most deals don't fall apart because of the numbers.”

Transition to Co-Living Strategy

13:26 to 14:01

Andres discusses his transition from wholesaling to the co-living model.

“All right, we are back on the BiggerPockets podcast with investor Andreas Martinez.”

From Restaurant to Real Estate

14:01 to 17:00

Andres shares his journey from working at a restaurant to acquiring a property.

“And I was like, you know, it was like January 2nd, brand new year.”

Challenges and Solutions in Renovation

17:01 to 22:50

Andres discusses the renovation challenges faced during his investments and how he overcame them.

“And how much were you renting each bedroom for?”

Understanding Co-Living Operations

22:51 to 23:26

The intricacies of managing co-living spaces and operational considerations are discussed.

“I own 10 of them and I have four under management.”

Understanding Co-Living Operations

23:43 to 24:23

The intricacies of managing co-living spaces and operational considerations are discussed.

“Do you ever notice how every passive investment somehow turns into a very active lifestyle?”

Understanding Co-Living Operations

26:04 to 27:06

The intricacies of managing co-living spaces and operational considerations are discussed.

“We spent our days at the beach and the pool.”

Understanding Co-Living Operations

27:11 to 28:01

The intricacies of managing co-living spaces and operational considerations are discussed.

“Sometimes I need to pay someone who doesn't take credit cards, or if I want to split a check, or just to pay back a friend for a shared cost.”
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Introduction to Co-Living

28:01 to 28:38

Learn about the growth and importance of co-living in today's housing market.

“All right, we are back on the BiggerPockets podcast with investor Andres Martinez, who started off in this business wholesaling, but transitioned into a niche called co-living.”

Challenges and Strategies in Co-Living

28:38 to 29:21

Discover the key considerations and strategies for operating a successful co-living business.

“And so for people who are interested, what are some of the most important things they need to be thinking about when operating a co-living business?”

Mythbusters: Co-Living Turnover

29:21 to 30:29

Understand common myths about co-living turnover and how to manage tenant stability.

“Let's play a game of Mythbusters because there's a lot of assumptions that people make with co-living.”

Managing Tenant Relationships

30:29 to 33:05

Learn how effective tenant screening and clear communication can reduce conflicts.

“stabilize the property, you don't have turnovers.”

Co-Living Property Selling Insights

33:05 to 34:14

Explore the considerations when selling a co-living property and maintaining value.

“All right, here's one that you may not have had to experience yet, but it is one that people think about.”

Parking Issues in Co-Living

34:14 to 34:48

Discover the importance of managing parking to maintain tenant satisfaction and neighborhood relations.

“My first house, my neighbor, he wanted to call the city with me.”

Finding and Learning from Andres

34:48 to 35:51

Learn how to connect with Andres Martinez for further insights on co-living.

“Thank you so much for playing that game.”

Finding and Learning from Andres

36:04 to 36:28

Learn how to connect with Andres Martinez for further insights on co-living.

“Close your eyes, exhale, feel your body relax, and let go of whatever you're carrying today.”

Finding and Learning from Andres

36:33 to 36:59

Learn how to connect with Andres Martinez for further insights on co-living.

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0:00Brandon Turner:Three years ago, Andres Martinez was waiting tables. Today, he owns 10 rental properties, manages another four, and has a rental portfolio that brings in over$13 ,000 in monthly cash flow. He's even been able to quit his job and focus on his rentals full time. So how did he pull all this off starting in 2024? Early on, Andres had one goal, maximize the cash flow on every property he bought. But this led him to co-living, a strategy where you have multiple tenants living under the same roof. The cash flow was so strong that he deployed this strategy across his entire portfolio. But the journey hasn't been easy.

0:40Brandon Turner:In today's episode, Andre shares all the growing pains, from making 200 cold calls a day to find off-market deals, to working with shady contractors and navigating difficult tenant disputes. Through it all, his pure hustle and grit have paid off. Whether you're looking for creative ways to scale your portfolio or create enough cash flow to replace your salary, Andres has the blueprint that works, even here in 2026.

1:09Brandon Turner:What's going on, everybody? I am Henry Washington. And today on the BiggerPockets podcast, we're bringing you an investor story with Andres Martinez from Dallas, Texas. Let's jump right in. Mr. Andres Martinez, welcome to the BiggerPockets podcast. How you doing, Henry? Thanks so much for having me. Glad to have you, man. Excited for you to be here. Now, I understand you've been on the Rookie Podcast before, but for those who haven't heard your story, why don't you give us a little bit of your background and how you first got into real estate? I've been doing real estate since January 2023. I was working full-time as a waiter.

1:41I went to college for music. I studied jazz, as you can tell from my audience here. That did not go well. every other starving artist i was working as a full-time as a rest in a restaurant business and then i started making pretty good money as a waiter honestly i was i was very close to the six figures uh yeah on the years and then i got married my wife is like you need to buy a house so perfect we need to buy a house and then even though i was reporting all my income because it was cash we couldn't really qualify for the house that we wanted this is the time where the interest rates are just starting to go high so we missed the three or four percent but now there are seven

2:16Brandon Turner:and a half. So this was like 2023, late 2023. Late 2023, exactly. November, December. And we missed it because we couldn't find the right lender. So now when we find the lender in December, he's like, well, sorry, now it's 7%. Oh, wow. So I was like, how do you buy a house without a mortgage? So I fell into the rabbit hole of creative finance. I jumped into there. I didn't know what wholesaling was back then. I just started making calls. I found my first deal in two weeks, take my wife to see the house and she's like absolutely not so i was like okay so i told the agent look uh it didn't work for us thank you so you know now i was part of a real estate mastermind so i go to our local meetup meetup and i told the guys like yeah i found this deal i just didn't know what to do with it and this guy is like why why don't you wholesale it i said what do you mean he's like you can make money just by flipping the contract and i was like teach me so we go call the agent again that same on that same meetup call the agent i was like we'll be we'll see the property again tomorrow we go he runs the numbers he's like this is a good deal man we can make some money here he get under contract and he showed me how to flip that paper and i was like we just make ten thousand dollars in a few phone calls yeah i at that time when i was doing the waiter stuff i was flipping furniture online i was trying to start any type of side hassle flipping phones uh washers dryers clothing on on ebay anything i could get my man my hands of make money.

3:38But I never really thought I could make money on real estate because, you know, I don't come from a family with money. I'm an immigrant. I've been here since I was 18 only. So when that happened and I was like, OK, this is this is this is it. You know, I saw Doctor Strange and the Marvel movies, you know, this is the one. And I just I went straight ahead, start calling nonstop.

3:59Brandon Turner:OK, so you said you found that first deal in two weeks that you ended up eventually wholesaling. How did you find that deal? Just calling agents on the MLS? obligations in the LMLS. Imagine three days in the real estate. Yeah. Do you want to do seller finance or sub two? No. Like I get 500 calls every day. I was like, okay. And then eventually this girl's like, yeah, we had this property on a contract with somebody else, but they couldn't perform. Do you want to come see it? And she sends me the terms. She sends me the mortgage sheet. I got lucky. You know, after 500, 600 calls, somebody say yes.

4:30You called 500 to 600 people? Every single listing in SILO.

4:34Brandon Turner:Folks, if you are listening right now, that is absolutely not luck. That is hard work paying off. Yes, that seems like a long shot. Sure. But if you sit down and you put effort in and you call 600 people determined to get a deal, you're probably going to get a deal. And that goes for almost anyone. If you are in a market and you call the right list and you have that much dedication, you're going to stumble across a deal. So no, that's not luck. I call that positioning, right? You put yourself in the position to be ready to capitalize on a deal. You got paid to get an education in how to do a wholesale deal.

5:16Brandon Turner:So how long did it take you to land your next one? Nine months. Nine months. I didn't know that you can pull lists of low equity or seller finance. I was just calling every single listing. Yeah. So now I'm pulling lists. I'm making calls. I'm getting better at sales. I'm getting better at my pitch. Nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing. nine months later, it was a very humbling lesson because I was about to give up. Actually, I had given up two weeks prior to that because we went to the doctor with my wife and we found out she was having some hell of a leisure. So I need a lot of money.

5:45I was about to sell the house. All my servants were about to go there. No more wholesaling. I was like, because at this point, in these nine months, I got fired from my job twice because every time a seller calls me back on a Friday night, instead of having fajitas on my hand, I have my phone. And my manager's yelling at me. I was like, hold on. If this is the 10K call, I'm about to walk out. right this is my my real proof of concept it never happened so we're driving back from the doctor's appointment and i'm just like okay uh i tried i tried i like i made two 300 calls every day manually until somebody pick up the phone right it didn't work like i really did my best i didn't take this off monday to sunday like it's not for me and then on that drive home i get a text message back hey andres this is andre you called me a few months ago uh you explained me about the seller financing and you were right the person who got me in their contract for this price they couldn't close can you help me out because now i already moved out of the house and i am behind one month of the payments and i met him in person and we got under contract and that was my first wholesale assignment fee of ten thousand dollars a week later i get another message back hey do you still want to buy this house and then you know the cycle of wholesaling you need to build a pipeline the pilot came back to me so yes i start making money now this is how direct to seller marketing typically works for anything, whether you're going to wholesale it, whether you're

7:02Brandon Turner:going to keep them for yourself. When you're doing direct to seller marketing, sometimes what you're doing is you're starting to roll that snowball, right? Because you're putting in effort and people are saying no, but you're also giving them the idea that working with you or your creative strategy, or even the idea to think about selling is just now popped in their head because they weren't thinking about it before until you called. And so they said no, maybe because they didn't understand it, maybe because it wasn't the right time. But once you plant that seed, it starts to grow. And then at some point they may decide, oh, let me call Andreas.

7:38Brandon Turner:He called, he said he could do this. Now I'm in the right space. So you got to get the snowball started. And where people fail with direct-to-selling marketing is they quit before their snowball gets big enough to start producing results for them. And so they say it doesn't work and they're done. And then they missed their opportunity because maybe somebody else starts marketing in the meantime to that same list. And then those leads that they started to foster end up going to somebody else, man. So that's super cool. So you're wholesaling, your proof of concept worked. Then you start popping off$10 ,000 checks,$7 ,000 checks,$9 ,000 checks.

8:14Brandon Turner:So it's working. What did you move into after that? When I got started, even before real estate, the reason I was doing the side hassles is because I've always wanted to achieve the point that I achieve now where like I have enough cash flow. I don't have to leave my house. I leave my house right now once or twice a month. I don't pick up the phone for anybody except if it's an emergency for my tenants because now I have AI running everything. That level of freedom for somebody like me who had to start working at 14, right? who has always depending on somebody else. I wanted to flavor that. And once I did, I realized I really like it and I don't want to go back to being on the hustle.

8:53A lot of people think because I hustle hard is because I have the alpha type. I want to be the big CEO. I want to make the billion dollars. I am very okay making my 20, 30K a month passive income, working maybe 20, 30 hours a month, not having to talk to anybody on the phone. I don't have to talk to sellers. I don't have to talk to agents. But the transition was, it's very interesting. So going back to the beginning, on that deal with the real estate investor, we went to the home and he's like, okay, I will make this work, but I need to put 10 rooms. I was like, absolutely not. You're not going to raise money for that.

9:24You're going to borrow from somebody money. You're going to steal it. Then you're going to walk away. No, I passed on that deal. But I kept me thinking, hold on. Maybe there is something here I don't know about room rentals. And, you know, I'm already part of a mastermind. So I start talking with people. Have you heard of this? I was like, oh, yeah, I've heard about this. I have it. Yeah, this, this, and that. I was like, holy shit. Okay, that's it. That's the end goal, cash flow.

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13:26Brandon Turner:All right, we are back on the BiggerPockets podcast with investor Andreas Martinez. Andreas started off wholesaling, did several wholesale deals, made good money, and then decided, you know what? I'm not going to do that anymore because I want to try this co-living thing. So you started to research, you learned about co-living. Did that deal that you were trying to wholesale become your first co-living property or did you end up wholesaling that? No, that same meetup that I went where I made my first wholesale deal for$500, it happens every Saturday of the first month. I was on the way there and I get a call from my boss because I'm still working at a restaurant.

14:04I was like, I need you. And I was like, you know, it was like January 2nd, brand new year. Like, you know, I woke up early, I shaved, I worked out. I was like, I'm going to go meet a lot of people. This is my year. And I missed the meetup. and I get a text message from another guy that I was kind of coaching, teaching how to do wholesale. He's like, hey, this agent was walking around the meetup. And this is a creative finance meetup full of creative finance investors. He was describing this property, these five rooms, three bedrooms, and the seller is in pre-foreclosure and he doesn't really want to make a lot of money.

14:33He just wants to help the seller. But nobody else pay attention to it. And I automatically, nobody pay attention because they don't know calling me. Text the agent, I was like, I'll call you as soon as I get out of work. I was supposed to get out of four. I didn't get out until 11. I give him a call. He's like, I was waiting for your call. I was like, can we jump on a Zoom? Saturday at 1130 at night, we're on a call for an hour. The next morning, we're meeting at the property with the seller before I go to work. Property under contract. $3 ,000 down. I got a 2019 house, quarter lot, five bedrooms, three bathrooms, ready to go for co-living.

15:03Brandon Turner:And so you essentially take over payments on this property and you convert it to co-living. Did you have to add any bedrooms or did you just do it co-living as it sat? So I bring the deal to my mastermind and to make sure that even though I already knew it was a good deal, I just needed, you know, I was about to put a lot of money in the conversion. It was about$40 ,000 to have three more rooms. We needed to redo the flooring because it was carpet. I need to put now LBP paint. And I don't know anything about construction yet. And the guy who's hosting those mastermind, he's like, Andres, do you want to sell me this?

15:34And I was like, oh, I really got a deal. You know, I really got a deal. and he was like, this works long-term rental, section A, mid-term rental, Airbnb, and you're going to go for the worst strategy called living. I was like, that's what I want to try because it's in a great area. It has already five rooms, but I need to put three more to make maximum profit. And on that call, I was like, it's going to be a lot of money, but I wish I could partner with somebody. I don't have to use my money.

15:56Brandon Turner:So the money you were raising was the money for the renovation because you bought it sub two, but when you buy it sub two, that just gives you the money to buy it. You don't, if you're going to renovate it, that's got to come out of your pocket. You need the renovation. You need the furniture. You need the refrigerator, the stove, holding costs. So about how much were you trying to raise to get all this done? $58 ,000. And on that Zoom chat, somebody texted me. He said, hey, Andres, we have money. Can we partner? And I said, okay, let's talk about it. You bring all the money. I'll bring everything else.

16:24I'll manage it. And then we'll go from there. We go under contract. We close. We start renovations. My contractors end up stealing a lot of money. No problem. I lost at that point because it was my responsibility,$40 ,000 out of my pocket to rebuy all the flooring. The guys who were doing the work at the house, she never paid them. So they were trying to come back and to destroy the bathrooms that they had built. I had to stay at the property. Oh my goodness. Heart attack after heart attack. I was going to home depot in the morning, doing the renovation of myself at the end, going back to work all day, double shift because now I needed money.

16:54Everything that I made from all selling was kind of gone. Yeah. Going back at night. Anyways, we went live on March 1st. I was full in two weeks. Oh my goodness. And how much were you renting each bedroom for? At the beginning, it was between$8 and$8.50. The private bathroom was for$1 ,000. So the total income was somewhere around$6 ,500.

17:11Brandon Turner:$6 ,500 a month. And what was your mortgage taxes insurance? $2 ,100. Oh my goodness. After expenses and everything, the net was at the beginning somewhere around$2 ,700,$2 ,800. Yeah, man. That's a phenomenal cash flowing deal. What area of the country or what city are these deals being done in? Mainly Fort Worth, Texas. Now I'm in DFW, you, but at that point I started mainly in Fort Worth, Texas. So what did the next deal look like and how long did it take you to get that? Well, I was finished the renovation. I contacted everybody that I knew, like I need help. I ended up meeting this investor who already had another property coming up.

17:47And he was like, Hey, since you know how to operate, right? You can get the properties. You can find the tenants. Let's partner up because I'm already partners with a contractor. And I was like, okay, perfect. That's the second property. We jump into it. Turns out the contractor ends up scamming him and scamming me. Boy. 0 for 2 on contractors. The main guy who was working for the contractor ends up renting a room in the second house. Oh. So I'm walking through the house. I was like, hey, bro, like you're still missing trim here and there and there. Eventually, three days later, I was like, hey, rent is due.

18:17And then he explodes like, you haven't paid my boss. She says you haven't paid her for a month. That's why she doesn't have money. And I showed him the receipt like we already pay her. She was gone. So he was like, I don't have money. And I was like, OK, let's get to work. And then I started just asking people, hey, do you need a contractor? He did a good job. And you know, he's the main guy. Find him a job, find him a second one. I was like, okay, can you find bigger houses? Like, yeah, let me keep buying them. So now I was doing my food renovation. I learned a lot of construction there because he's been doing construction for 20 years.

18:46So we started doing more co-living for me, co-living for other investors, working with Coder Force, we're learning how to do permits. Now I had another deal on their contract that was a fix and flip. We did the flip, we did another flip. I bought another co-living. So now, instead of doing the wholesaling, now the contractor gig took up. And if you ask me between being a contractor and a wholesaler, I would take being the contractor.

19:08Brandon Turner:So that first co-living deal, you had a partner. So because the partner gave you the money for the renovation, the furniture, and then you guys were 50-50. Second deal was a different investor than who you were partnered with before? Yes, it was a different investor. He already wanted to invest in co-living, but he was missing the operations because operations is very heavy in co-living. So it was the same deal, 50-50. But he was like, since you are messing up on the contractor stuff, let me bring my partner. Because she's the contractor and then the whole thing. Got it. So that ended up being a debacle from the contractor side.

19:40Brandon Turner:But it sounds like you were still able to get the house fixed up. And then were you able to get that one rented out? And how many bedrooms were in that one? That one was eight bedrooms with an ADU in the back. And you were renting the rooms in that one for about how much? A little bit less, like between 750 and 800. So give us the breakdown on that. What was your mortgage taxes, insurance, and what were you bringing in a month? Gross income was around$6 ,400,$6 ,500 as well. Pretty similar because we didn't have the ADU fully functional yet. That would have been an extra$1 ,000. Wow. We would have killed it.

20:10PITI on that one was like$2 ,300, but we had a HELOC that we also took on second position because the start had a HELOC, so it was like an extra$300. But the net was still around the same,$2 ,200,$2 ,300 at that time. Yes.

20:23Brandon Turner:That's super cool. You're finding the people who either have the deals or can find the deals and you bring the operations and the experience. And then you're typically 50 50 in those deals. So either somebody brings the money or the deal, you bring the operations, the experience, and then you 50 50. But it sounds like you realized after two failed renovation projects with contractors running off with some money that you were like, this is a gap that I need to fill. So tell me about that. Did you go out and hire guys that you keep in-house? Or do you have just like other GCs that you work with that mainly only work for you?

20:59Brandon Turner:Like, what does that structure look like? So what I realized at that point was this contractor, she did not anything about a contractor. She just happened to find her main guy and his team was doing the stuff. So I was like, I can do the same. I can find the deals. I can find the houses. With a difference, I can work. Because I already finished my house. I did the flooring. I did the tile. I did the drivel. I have a better understanding of that. So I was like, look, if you help me learn this more, I can get you jobs, right? Because as a wholesaler, if I come with a contractor, at that point, I was still thinking about wholesaling.

21:28It's a double win. So we started doing that.

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21:31Brandon Turner:So this was the guy who was living in the place. You said he did good work. So you said, I'll be your new GC if you start working for me. And so you kept him busy. So now you're able to manage the renovation and then manage operating the property. So that's the value that you bring to the deal. and then somebody else either brings the deal or brings the money and then you 50 50 on the co-living yes so we did that one a month after i did one more because i still had the leads coming from wholesaling so i bought one more house i raised the money i did my own construction usually contractors uh contractors are saying you know six to eight weeks i was able to do it in two weeks and i started realizing like okay all these people are just talking bullshit because they need to split their teams here and split their them if you keep a group in one house framing takes one or two days.

22:16Drywall takes two more. Then you put the texture, it dries, it paints. That's done. Because the electrician can come in the morning, it can come at nine, the AC. So it doesn't take, unless you're doing plumbing, electrical, of course, all of that. So I started keeping the guys busy. I started making money there. I slowly fade away from wholesaling.

22:31Brandon Turner:So you're GCing for other investors, either on flips or other co-living properties? Mainly co-living. I've done 29 now. That's really cool, man. I love to see that transition. So that's on the GC side. Would Would you mind just giving us a total breakdown of your portfolio as a whole to get an idea of what your business looks like? Yes. So I have right now 14 properties. I own 10 of them and I have four under management. On average, each one nets$1 ,900 to$2 ,000 right now. All right. So across that portfolio, Andreas, what is the net cash flow? What do you put in your pocket every month? So all the properties net around$26 ,000,$28 ,000 a month, depending on the vacancies and all of that.

23:13And I take 50 % of that. So I take home myself$12 ,000 to$14 ,000 a month.

23:18Brandon Turner:Man, that's super cool. Congrats on building that. I do have some more questions because I know there's people listening who are very curious about co-living. So I'd love to get some of your thoughts around best practices, things people should avoid if they're getting into this business. And also just thoughts around the management because it is a very management-heavy business. Leases are a big thing and making sure all that's sorted out. And so I'd like to dive into that. But first, I want to take a quick break. Do you ever notice how every passive investment somehow turns into a very active lifestyle?

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28:09Brandon Turner:All right, we are back on the BiggerPockets podcast with investor Andres Martinez, who started off in this business wholesaling, but transitioned into a niche called co-living. Now, co-living has been a buzzword for the past couple of years. It's really started to pick up steam. More people are getting into the space. mostly because affordability of housing is tough, especially in larger metro areas where real estate prices are higher. And so for people who are interested, what are some of the most important things they need to be thinking about when operating a co-living business? This is not a passive strategy at all.

28:49You're having the complexity of having multiple personalities living under one building. So everything that you're thinking right in your head that it's a red flag, it is a red flag. But there are ways to go around it. There are ways to fix it. There are ways to manage it. So you need to develop a lot of systems to be able to run this because for people who are starting it out, if you've never run a side hustle, if you've never run a business on the side, if you've never had that mentality, it could be overwhelming for you if you start growing your portfolio a lot. So just to start with one, start with two, give it a few months, see if you like it, and then decide to move forward.

29:21Brandon Turner:Okay. Let's play a game of Mythbusters because there's a lot of assumptions that people make with co-living. Myth number one, or truth, is that co-living is going to have high turnover. So you're going to have people moving in and out all the time, short leases. It depends what type of business you want to run. If you allow somebody to come for three months in your house because they are on an internship or just because they're getting divorced, then yes, you're going to have turnovers. and this is what this is what i try to explain people when they come to my groups and want to learn about co-living i am focused on co-living because of the affordability issue i don't want to have people out of state coming here for a month or two i am targeting the guy that works at the gas station the lady that works down at the mcdonald's they don't make enough to rent their own studio but they have a job here they have their family here but they want to be independent so they come to my house i always start on a month-to-month lease because in texas if I don't like them, I can let them go.

30:19If they don't like me, we can just part away samically. And I always tell them, look, it's a month, maybe two months, make sure you like it. And at that point, either you sign a 12-month lease or you're out. So once you stabilize the property, you don't have turnovers. And it's 107 rooms that I have. It would be impossible for me to run all of these by myself with no VAs if I had high turnover. The problem of the weekly rent and all of that, that's... Imagine you have to move so many people quickly. Like you need a big team. And every time you bring a personality into the house, like, oh my God, who's coming now?

30:53Right. It's, it's, it's a big gamble.

30:55Brandon Turner:Given this method, do you find that you usually have people that stay their entire term and then release up with you? I have five people that I've had since my first house. Actually three of them on my first house just signed in January and another one year lease. Oh man, that's really cool. You have to think about it. And that's what I tell people. Why would they leave? They have the same job. They haven't gotten a pay raise. They are not going to college. They're not going to get a higher paying job. They have not found a partner yet. And this is, you know, people between 25 and 35. We're not talking about elderly or any people disabled.

31:25The house runs well. The house is clean. The house is safe. They know that management is on top of everything. Why would

31:30Brandon Turner:they leave? All right. Myth number two or truth is that there's too many people issues and my phone is going to be going off all day long with tenants complaining about their housemates. Yes, if you don't know what you're doing. For example, a lot of people don't want to talk to them up front. They want to have, you know, a message and auto approval ratings, like no background checks. If you allow that type of people in your house and then you get mad because they didn't wash the dishes, that's on you. You're a terrible operator. You're a terrible manager because you have to realize everybody comes from a different background, right?

32:04For this person, that means clean. If you rent the same house and you have somebody else who comes from a different background, they know what clean is, and they come in and they see dishes all the time, I'm out of here, bro. The model that we run is we are very upfront. Before they even come to the city of the house, there's eight people here. You're going to have to be extremely clean, especially in the bathrooms. If you don't like it, just let me know. Cancel the show. And a lot of people do. That's good. Go live somewhere else. I want to have people here who need it in my houses. And when they come, they follow the rules.

32:33I really have almost no problems with dirty dishes or people fighting in the house or that they don't take the trash. It's all about pre-screening, man. Every landlord's secret is pre-screening.

32:44Brandon Turner:We as landlords have to stop putting off our failures on our tenants. Our job as landlords, no matter what type of landlord, is to be great at tenant selection. The better we are at tenant selection, the more profitable that we're going to be. All right, here's one that you may not have had to experience yet, but it is one that people think about. When going to sell a property, do you have to un-renovate and put it back in its original condition? You can sell it as a living to another investor. But you heard me say, I bought a five-bedroom house and I added three rooms. That's only two by fours on drywall that can be taken out in one day.

33:29maybe going to cost me three to four thousand to repair the house and put it back to normal now i can resell my property to the normal world i don't have to wait for a co-living investor to come and buy this house because if you're buying a house that is already renovated if the investment was so good why are you selling on top of that an appraiser walks into the house and they don't see a living room they're like what is this how do i comp it so there are very few lenders who can who will help you uh finance already converted co-living but as an investor i want to keep my options open.

33:58Brandon Turner:The other myth slash truth is parking is going to be an issue. Everybody's going to fight over parking spots. The neighbors are going to complain because there's cars on the street. Yes, that's true.

34:12And how do we deal with it? My first house, my neighbor, he wanted to call the city with me. He was very mad that we were going to rent. And I was like, I have my own parking in my corner, bro. And all my houses are either corner lot. I have parking in my backyard. So there is absolutely no reason why my tenants would park against their houses. In fact, it is in my lease. If you walk into any of my houses, we have parking pictures there, like where they're supposed to park. I check the cameras once a week at the beginning. Once the tenants are on their behavior, like, okay, we only park in our house, they stick to it, right?

34:42So I don't have parking issues after that. But it's true. If I didn't buy the right house with parking, I would be struggling.

34:48Brandon Turner:All right, Andres. Thank you so much for playing that game. I know a lot of people have similar questions. There's probably even more questions. So if you're listening and you've got questions, drop a comment below and maybe we can help you get some answers to those questions or check out the BiggerPockets forums and make a post in there. And there'll be tons of investors who can help you with some of these ideas. Andres, is there a way people can find you if they wanna learn more about co-living or just learn more about you in general? Yes, my name is Andres Martinez, REI on YouTube and Instagram.

35:20I have a lot of free content on YouTube. So for people who are curious and want to hear more about the actual Colibian, you can go in there. If you want to message me, you can find me on Instagram, Andres Martinez REI. And also I have a school group now that is free to join. We meet once a week and I hold two or three hour calls for people to come ask me because my inbox is full of like the same questions over and over and over. And it's not I don't want to answer, but I don't I don't I don't have time. So I just if you want to get free game, I host a call once a week. Come in, ask me. I'm live for two or three hours.

35:49And then after that, you know, go go home.

35:51Brandon Turner:Awesome. Thank you so much, Andreas. Thank you for sharing your journey. Thank you for the lessons and being open and honest with us. And thank you so much to the BiggerPockets community for listening. We'll see everybody on the next episode of BiggerPockets. Close your eyes, exhale, feel your body relax, and let go of whatever you're carrying today. Well, I'm letting go of the worry that I wouldn't get my new contacts in time for this class. I got them delivered free from 1-800-CONTACTS. Oh my gosh, they're so fast. And breathe. Oh, sorry. I almost couldn't breathe when I saw the discount they gave me on my first order.

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From the publisher

Three years ago, Andres Martinez was waiting tables. Today, he owns 10 rental properties, manages another four, and has a rental portfolio that brings in over $13,000 in monthly cash flow. He’s even been able to quit his job and focus on his rentals full-time. But how did he pull all of this off—and in such little time?

Early on, Andres had one goal: maximize the cash flow on every property he bought. This led him to co-living, an investing strategy where you have multiple tenants under the same roof. The cash flow was so strong that he has deployed this strategy across his entire portfolio.

But the journey hasn’t been easy. In today’s episode, Andres shares all the growing pains—from making 200 cold calls a day to find off-market deals to working with shady contractors and navigating difficult tenant disputes.

Through it all, his pure hustle and grit have paid off. Whether you’re looking for creative ways to scale your real estate portfolio or create enough cash flow to replace your salary, Andres has a blueprint that works—even here in 2026!

In This Episode We Cover

How Andres went from waiting tables to making $13,000+/month with rentals

How to scale your real estate portfolio faster using other people’s money (OPM)

The biggest myths (and truths) surrounding the co-living strategy

The number one thing you must get right when operating a co-living property

The real estate markets where the co-living strategy works best

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