Quince’s $50 Cashmere, Supply Chain Savvy Beat E-Commerce Curse

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2:09If you spend time on Instagram or listen to a podcast at all over the last few years or maybe you're of a certain age, then you know all about quince. It started just before the pandemic. And as Amanda Mollwright. Did you not know about quince? Of course. I can see the packages arrive. at my home. Oh, okay. Go ahead. Continue. Somebody in my household ordering things from this company. That's how old. And it's not me. It is my wife. Go ahead. Go ahead. As Amanda Moll writes, the San Francisco-based online retailer specializes in selling its own brand of low-cost luxury goods, the kinds of things designed to lessen the tension between your aspirations and your budget.

2:46Amanda Moll is Bloomberg Businessweek senior reporter. She's author of the Buying Power column. As Carol was alluding to, over the last few years, they've expanded into a surprising variety of other products as you write, American-made sofas, 14-karat gold jewelry, fragrances, nutritional supplements, direct-to-consumer. It was big a few years ago. Not doing so well unless you're all birds and you're pivoting to AI infrastructure. How has Quince been able to pull this off?

3:12Amanda Mull:Well, I think that what Quince has done is to take some of the complaints that undergirded the big DTC boom in the 2010s and find like... DTC, direct-to-consumer. consumer and find some opportunities to actually, you know, create more efficient supply chains that address some of those problems. Because, you know, the Everlanes and the Allbirds of recent past identified a lot of weaknesses in how we move clothing in particular around the world, but textile products of all types, really. And so what Quince does is sort of similar to the Shein model. They take products from manufacturers and they say, manufacturers, wherever you are, China, Vietnam, Cambodia, keep them.

4:03Amanda Mull:We'll let you know when we have an order and then you ship them directly to the consumer. So you're skipping container shipping. You're skipping over the road freight in the United States. No warehouses. They're building some infrastructure in the United States, but right now it's all manufacturer to consumer. So you skip a lot of the sort of like lead time. And then you skip a lot of the infrastructure costs and the logistics costs that you're incurring otherwise. That means that they order in smaller batches, they order on shorter timelines. They are able to just like cut out a lot of the guesswork because they don't have to order six months to a year in advance.

4:45Amanda Mull:And when you're dealing with products that are subject to trends, that are subject to tastes, that can make a lot of difference. So you cut out a lot of like overstock waste and then you cut out a lot of the steps in the logistics change, which all cost money. Well, fast fashion was very good at this for a period of time. I mean, there are case studies from Harvard Business School about Zara and how well Zara did when it came to fast fashion and trends. How do you do this direct to consumer, especially when it's such a wide variety. We're talking couches to jewelry, to fragrances, to supplements.

5:14Amanda Mull:Yeah. Well, what Quince's CMO told me is that they have sort of gone all in on building out like a systemic approach to supply chains. So once you have a system that allows you to scrape data on what consumers are looking for, you know, analyze your own data for what they're buying from you and what they're not, and then a framework for working with suppliers, you can sort of apply that to any kind of product as long as you can find suppliers that are willing to work with you. So they're very good at, they use a lot of AI, they have a lot of internal technology that they've developed over the past few years.

5:51That, you know, when you're not housing

5:54Amanda Mull:any of the infrastructure yourself, and there's suppliers all over the world that can already make couches, can already make jewelry, can already make cashmere sweaters. so if you can find exactly the type of couch you need them to produce and exactly the type of sweater and exactly the type of jewelry then you can really uh speed things up a little bit it's kind of brilliant to be honest with you but the thing is i was thinking okay 50 cashmere sweater sounds great but the quality's got to be there right and we know they've come up and i said to you before we got going constantly seeing this company come up when it comes to wire cutter comparisons.

6:27The quality's been there. Well, I think one of the most interesting things about

6:33Amanda Mull:Quince is that you have to sort of remember that we're talking about quality in the context of the modern consumer who wants better things but doesn't want to buy fewer things. The general advice is buy fewer and better. So how do you figure out how to buy better if you're not going to buy fewer. So Quince's quality, they are very proud of it. I would say that generally it is like a$50 cashmere sweater is probably going to be better than any other$50 sweater you're going to find on the market because all the other ones are going to be polyester or acrylic or nylon. So if you have a system that allows you a leg up on more traditional supply chains that are using worse materials, then even if it's not the best cashmere sweater in the world, your customers are going to be overjoyed with what they get.

7:19Amanda Mull:Because it's$50 versus, you know, we know. Is this the secret sauce for the company? Because if we think about the path to successful DTC, direct-to-consumer brands, it's just literally a graveyard of like mattress, box mattress companies that, you know, initially seemed really innovative and then everybody else did it and they all went out of business. Right. Is this, what's to stop somebody from copying Quince's success? Right. I asked their executives and their investors this. I didn't get really a super straight answer, except that the systems that they've built out do take quite a while to build them out.

7:57Amanda Mull:And you would have to be, this doesn't work if you have a bunch of stores, I think is the biggest thing. So companies that are, have already achieved this scale in the U S are generally companies with a lot of brick and mortar. And like, if you, if you need to distribute to wholesale, if you need to distribute to your own brick and mortar locations, the system doesn't really work. So you'd have to be an online only company and building that up from scratch is going to be difficult. If there's already somebody that consumers go to feel like if you ever watch, I know I bring this up all the time, but I used to watch shark tank all the time.

8:27I still do, but it's like whenever somebody an entrepreneur is like, let's, let's build stores like, no. One last question, because we've got to run. You always have so many nuggets here. But I get the model, but then why are they doing Dom Perignon champagne? Why are they bringing in? You've got to treat yourself, Carol. No, I totally get that. But I mean, why are they bringing in third-party products?

8:50Amanda Mull:Well, I think that there's probably a couple of reasons. But the one that I find most compelling as a real explanation is that you need things that are going to bring affluent consumers. to your website. And these types of goods that are going to be difficult for Quince itself to make, even though it has this pretty interesting system for doing all kinds of stuff, you need name brands that create this halo of luxury across your assortment. And if you can get those brands in and offer like an interesting value proposition, then you place them next to your products and suddenly your products are better positioned than they would be otherwise.

9:31Amanda Mull:It's kind of luxury by association. Yeah, absolutely. It's kind of a cute halo. It's fabulous. I mean, I see it all over. I actually haven't bought anything. Have you bought stuff? I haven't, but basically everybody I know has. I know. Tim was saying that there's been a few packages coming in at his home. Yeah, I think. I haven't bought yet. I don't know what. I don't open them. It doesn't have my name on it. It's a married couple for you. Yeah, I mean, you know what? It's important for the longevity of the relationship. Honey, that's some packages. I don't need to know. She's very good about this stuff.

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