Daybreak Weekend: US Housing, Europe Data, Yen Intervention

14 Aug 2026 · 39 min · 15 chapters

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In short

This Bloomberg Daybreak Weekend episode previews the coming week for investors across housing, retail earnings, Europe’s data, the Japanese yen, and Hong Kong’s finance sector.

Guests and backgrounds

Drew Redding, U.S. Home Building Analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence, covers U.S. homebuilders. Avalon Purnell, Bloomberg equities reporter, discusses big-box retail and other earnings. Stephen Carroll and David Powell (Bloomberg senior euro area economist) and Sagarika Jason Ghani (Bloomberg EMEA equities macro/investment strategy) analyze Europe. Michael Ball, Bloomberg macro strategist, covers yen intervention. Shuli Ren, Bloomberg opinion columnist in Hong Kong, covers cross-border wealth and finance.

Key claims

U.S. housing starts down ~5% YTD single-family; spec inventory is taking longer to clear; affordability favors renting; luxury is relatively stronger (Toll Brothers insulated via cash buyers and down payments). Target and Walmart results will be a test of the American shopper; analysts are split. Europe’s PMIs/ZEW and inflation will show whether strong Q2 momentum persists; banks favored as ECB likely hikes. Yen intervention helped but gains faded; Treasury/BOJ signaling and BOJ rate hikes are pivotal. Hong Kong’s wealth hub status faces a tax-and-Beijing-influence risk, but IPO activity and hedge-fund office expansion remain positives.

Notable examples

Toll Brothers KPIs (order growth, gross margin, mortgage rates near 7%); Target expected ~6.2% post-earnings move; Deere viewed as nearing a 2026 demand trough; Hong Kong hedge funds like Citadel and Jane Street expanding; yen “160s” as a market defense line.

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Podcast Preview and Global Overview

0:19 to 1:30

Hosts provide an overview of the topics covered, including housing data and economic indicators.

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U.S. Housing Market Insights

1:30 to 2:30

Nathan Hager introduces Drew Redding to discuss the U.S. housing market trends.

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Current Trends in Home Building

2:30 to 5:20

Discussion on housing starts, production pressures, and market dynamics.

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Shift Toward Renting

5:20 to 6:15

Exploration of the trend towards renting over owning and its implications.

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Luxury Home Builders and Market Strength

6:15 to 7:50

Analysis of luxury home builders like Toll Brothers amidst market challenges.

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Stock Market Insights: Earnings Reports Ahead

7:50 to 14:01

Discussion on upcoming earnings reports from major retailers and their market implications.

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European Economic Outlook

15:40 to 17:31

Discussion on Europe's economic performance and upcoming data releases.

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Strong Earnings in Europe

17:32 to 21:38

Analysis of recent European earnings reports and growth expectations.

“If this is the status quo right now around Iran and that is prolonged, how do you hedge around that?”

Inflation and Its Risks

21:39 to 23:38

Exploration of inflation dynamics and their implications for the economy.

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Investor Sentiment and Asset Trends

23:39 to 27:48

Insights into European investor sentiment and asset class behaviors.

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Introduction to Key Contributors

28:00 to 28:30

Learn about the Bloomberg team covering EMEA equities and macro strategy.

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The Yen's Persistent Weakness

29:20 to 30:20

Explore the implications of the yen's weakness for Japan and the U.S.

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Interview with Michael Ball on Yen Intervention

30:20 to 36:30

Insights on the coordinated effort to strengthen the yen and market impacts.

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Hong Kong's Position in Wealth Management

36:30 to 41:40

Discussion on Hong Kong's asset management industry and its challenges.

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Technological Trends in Asset Management

41:40 to 42:00

Understand the impact of AI on asset managers in Hong Kong.

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1:30Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio, news. This is Bloomberg Daybreak Weekend, our global look at the top stories in the coming week from our Daybreak anchors all around the world. Straight ahead on the program, we look to some key housing data in the U.S. I'm Nathan Hager in Washington. I'm Stephen Carroll in London. We're looking ahead to the next economic indicators for Europe and what it signals about the trajectory for stocks and the economy for the rest of the year. I'm Doug Krizner looking at the fate of the Japanese yen and a reality check for Hong Kong. That's all straight ahead on Bloomberg Daybreak Weekend.

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2:29Good day to you. I'm Nathan Hager. We begin today's program with a look at the U.S. housing market. This week, we get figures on housing starts and pending home sales for the month of July. For more on this and the latest in the home building sector, we are joined by Drew Redding, U.S. Home Building Analyst for Bloomberg Intelligence. Great, as always, to speak with you, Drew. And, of course, it's been a pretty hot summer. So are we expecting many projects to have gotten off the ground in the last month? So when we think about housing starts, we're down about 5 % year to date on the single family side, and we expect to see further pressure from that side of the market.

3:06We see builders that are continuing to scale back production, giving in an already elevated supply of spec home inventory that they still need to work through. And we've got sales in the new home market that are up just about 2 % year to date. So it's taking a little bit longer to clear that inventory. You know, now the large public home builders have done a pretty good job in drawing down their complete home inventories. Of course, they've had to remain pretty aggressive in their use of incentives to do so. But we are starting to see more of a shift away from that spec production model, which is building the home before you have a buyer.

3:45You know, many of the builders are looking for a better balance. So what they're trying to do is basically match production with the sales pace rather than putting more specs into a slow market. Sounds like that speaks to an overall trend of the home market in general moving away from buying toward renting. Is that kind of what you're pointing to as an overall trend here? Yeah. So I think when you look at the for sale market relative to rentals, when you think about affordability, the high price of the homes, mortgage rates back towards 7%, you know, the math certainly does favor renting over owning.

4:22We've done some survey work that shows the same. And it's not that current renters don't want to own, but we find a majority of them do. It's simply the economics of it don't make sense right now. So what does that do for the overall sentiment in the home building market when we're seeing a trend toward more of those multifamily projects as opposed to the single families that you would think have better profit margins? Well, it's a good question. And, you know, I mentioned that in the new home market, we have sales paces down significantly from last year. The market as a whole is up only about 2 % year to date.

5:02And really the way builders are having to grow is to expand their community count. So they're not seeing it on the pace side, but really by increasing the number of subdivisions that they're operating from. So it's really a tough growth environment on the single family side. And if you think about the market, certainly there are pockets of relative strength and relative weakness. When you think about the entry-level buyer who is typically someone that may be coming out of a rental situation, we see more stress, as you would expect, across that part of the market because those tend to be the most price-sensitive homebuyers.

5:41On a relative basis, we have seen more strength at the move-up in luxury segments. These are typically the buyers that are coming out of an existing home, so they've built up equity over the last couple of years. In the luxury side, they're benefiting from the run-up in equity markets. They tend to be less sensitive to mortgage rates. We're seeing relative strength on that side. But there's really not a part of the market that is completely immune to what's happening in the broader economy, affordability, economic and political uncertainty. So there's broad challenges, but there are pockets of relative strength.

6:19Well, we are going to hear from one of those luxury home builders when Toll Brothers reports earnings this week. Are we expecting some positive signs there in terms of a lot of the factors you've just been talking about? Yeah. So we like the relative position of Toll Brothers. As you know, they cater to the luxury market, so their buyer is more affluent. As I said, the customers are less sensitive to interest rates compared to the entry level. About a quarter of their buyers paying cash. For those that do take out a mortgage, they put about 30 % down. So the buyer's very strong. So they're certainly more insulated to the macro.

6:56In terms of the upcoming print, I think the KPIs we'll be looking at are order growth and gross margin. And we particularly are interested in hearing how demand has trended intracurorder with mortgage rates climbing back up towards 7%. But that being said, we still expect toll to report high single digit growth in orders. And importantly, that's being driven, as we mentioned before, by community count growth, which is helping to offset muted sales absorptions. And that's really what sets Toll Brothers apart from a growth perspective, both for 2026 and looking out into 2027. Now, on the margin side, gross margins have been very strong.

7:36The outlook's really going to come down to how aggressive they've had to be on their use of sales incentives. Toll primarily prescribes to a price over pay strategy. So we do think that near-term margin should hold pretty well. Thank you for this, Drew. Great having you on with us. That's Drew Redding, U.S. Homebuilding Analyst for Bloomberg Intelligence. Let's take a look now at some stocks making news in the week ahead. I'm Nathan Hager, joined by Bloomberg Equities reporter Avalon Purnell. We're sort of winding down earnings season here, Avalon, but we're going to hear from some of the biggest names in big box retail this week, starting with Target on Wednesday.

8:14There has been a lot of drama around this stock. What are we expecting this week? Absolutely. We're definitely going to get a lot of visibility on the state of the American shopper. Sales trends and progress on Target's broader recovery will definitely be top of mind for investors, especially as they head into their second quarter earnings next Wednesday. The company is still really trying to regain its sparkle and pinpoint what exactly made the company Targe as opposed to just Target. One thing of note, though, is that definitely analysts remain mixed on the company's performance moving forward, especially given guidance they had in their earnings call last quarter, noting that they did have a little bit of concerns about tougher comparisons moving forward.

8:53You have UBS's Michael Lasser remaining quite bullish, expecting the results to provide the next proof point that broader recovery may actually be sticking around for the company. Whereas Barclays, Seth Sigmund saying that, you know, meaningful upside to results will really be needed to push the stock from here. He notes also that he believes the big box store likely had a solid quarter. However, he still views improvement as just recovering from last year's issues as opposed to moving forward into the next chapter. So worth noting that the options data that we're currently seeing at the moment is implying about a 6.2 % move after those results.

9:30Well, you wonder if we're going to see something of a similar move from Walmart when they report on Thursday. day. If you think about some kind of indicator of the American consumer, it's hard to think of a company that's more of one than Walmart. Absolutely. And a similar story that we were seeing in Target definitely still playing a role here for Walmart as well. Analysts still quite mixed on how exactly this big box stores, e-commerce, and also delivery businesses will perform as they report second quarter earnings. KeyBank is expecting pretty healthy results from the store, noting that the company remains one of their top picks as growth initiatives and also further share gains continue to build momentum despite a fairly volatile macro and geopolitical environment.

10:16They also expect Walmart to be fairly vocal about how exactly they're using those tariff refunds to fund rollbacks and ultimately drive future business gains by bringing people back into the store with slightly lower prices. Others are not necessarily as rosy about the company's outlook. Barclays noting that the optics don't look too great given expectations for sales moderation from the last quarter. Barclays, though, still saying that they believe this could be the trough as price investments and other initiatives support accelerating share gains in the second half of the year. Worth noting, retailers are still expecting back-to-school sales and Black Friday, which obviously won't be penciled in for the start of the year.

10:55Right, but definitely something to keep an eye on as we wait to see what the outlook is going to be from both Target and Walmart. Also on Thursday, we're going to hear from one of the biggest names in the ag sector. What are we expecting from Deere and Company? Yes. Investors will be looking for more data that reinforces Deere's view that 2026 will be the trough, the bottom of this quite complicated situation for the company. The world's biggest farm machinery makers' second quarter results are expected to be slightly mixed again this quarter. Bloomberg Intelligence expecting the results to still reinforce that expectation that 2026 will mark a trough in large ag demand as attention shifts towards how fast will that recovery be next year.

11:41However, that analyst is also noting that they're still expecting large agriculture retail sales to remain quite soft, though they do appear to be tracking better than industry forecasts as inventories continue to normalize. RBC also highlighting that their big question is continuing to be what exactly does the pace of Deere's recovery look like, especially as there continues to be a lot of volatility in the macro environment and also the tariff situation that is somewhat improved, but still kind of in the balance. That's obviously kind of interesting, especially with the Iran war, in the background as to how exactly that's going to be impacting farmers who are continuing to struggle to manage prices, not necessarily keeping pace with very elevated cost in.

12:25The options market also continuing to price a potential move of nearly 5 % after the company reports earnings. Yeah, still a lot of back and forth when it comes to that situation in the Middle East and the post-tariff situation as well. Just time to talk about another stock that's reporting this week, Estee Lauder. There is a lot more competition in the beauty space. How are we thinking Estee Lauder is going to be handling it? There sure is. To say the least, this company has had a rollercoaster ride of a quarter. Just a couple of months ago, they were talking about merger talks with the Spanish brand Pooch, which was on the table and then later scrapped after investors were quite negative on that idea.

13:05And like a lot of other companies that we've already mentioned, they are in the midst of a broader recovery as consumers are continuing to kind of pull back from spending on these various luxury brands that are under the Estee Lauder umbrella. That being said, RBC does continue to favor their turnaround, noticing that potentially important brands continue to outperform. And they also noted that the broader turnaround at MAC continues to kind of bode well for the company, though they do still question how Estee Lauder will continue to fare with holding on to Smashbox and Too Faced, which are fairly popular brands amongst maybe millennial crowds, and whether it still makes sense for Estee Lauder to hold on to them or maybe look for a play to sell them at some point.

13:51We'll see. Yeah, we'll see if a lot of those sales are happening in Target as well. Thanks, Avalon. As always, good to have you, Liz. That's Avalon Purnell, equities reporter for Bloomberg News. And coming up on Bloomberg Daybreak Weekend, we'll look at whether Europe's future economic data can live up to the promise of a bumper second quarter when it comes to Europe's earnings. I'm Nathan Hager, and this is Bloomberg.

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15:39This is Bloomberg Daybreak Weekend, our global look ahead at the top stories for investors in the coming week. I'm Nathan Hager in Washington. Later in the program, we'll take a closer look at the fate of the Japanese yen, plus how Hong Kong's competitiveness as a financial center is about to be tested. But first, Europe's biggest economies report inflation and purchasing managers index data next week against a backdrop of geopolitical uncertainty and higher energy costs driven by the war in Iran. Let's get more now from Bloomberg Daybreak Europe anchor Stephen Carroll. Nathan, European economies and companies have defied the doom-laden forecast that the Iran war would tip the continent into stagflation.

16:19We've seen the best earnings season in nearly four years, pushing key stock indexes to new records. And the signals for the months ahead look strong too. In the coming days, PMIs and the ZEW survey in Germany will give fresh insight into how the biggest economies are performing, along with updated readings on inflation. And investors seem bullish on European stocks too. Benedicte Lowe is equity derivative strategist at BNP Paribas. Here's what she told Bloomberg's Tom McKenzie earlier this week. So it's undeniable that the macro story is speaking up in Europe. We've got growth that is surprising to the upside, activity on the rise, and earnings that have been good.

16:56Actually, earnings have been exceptionally strong in the US, but also very good in Europe. It's been one of the best earning seasons over the past few years. And all of this is happening in a context where positioning is low to neutral. So that points to a positive picture for stocks. Now, the counterpoint to that is that a lot of positive news is already in the price. And with seasonality that is not supportive for higher stock price up until the end of September, October, we like to position for what we call a grind higher in stocks. And we like to minimize the premiums that investors are spending on upside positioning.

17:30How do you mitigate the risks around inflation, whether it's soft commodities, whether it's diesel, whether it's gas, oil prices? If this is the status quo right now around Iran and that is prolonged, how do you hedge around that? So one of our top pick at the moment is the banking sectors. We think the banking sectors is one of the best sector positions for end of year. First of all, PMIs are on the rise, as I mentioned, activities picking up, earnings that have been good. But also higher inflation means higher rates. We're expecting the ECB to rise rates come September meeting. And that is positive for the banking sector, a cyclical sector that has, yes, really performed well over the past few years.

18:07But we think there's some upside for that sector. So, Benedict Lowe from BNP Paribas, optimistic there. But there are risks to the outlook, not least from oil and gas prices grinding higher. Let's discuss now with David Powell, Bloomberg's senior euro area economist, and Sagarika Jason Ghani, who covers EMEA Equities, macro and investment strategy. David, let's start with you. We're looking ahead to these economic surveys coming in the next few days. What are we expecting to learn about the state of Europe's biggest economies? Well, essentially, we're going to be focusing on the PMI survey. And that's going to give us indications to whether the strong growth that we saw the second quarter continued in the third quarter.

18:47Euro-area GDP extended by 0.4 % in the second quarter this year. That was basically double consensus. Part of that is because of a rebound in Ireland. But even without that distortion caused by Irish GDP, the economy probably would have expanded by about 0.3, which is above expectations and is certainly defying the negative forecasts or the gloomy forecasts that were put out after the sharp rise in commodity prices earlier this year. So, Agarika, we've just wrapped up, or we're just wrapping up rather, a very strong earnings season in Europe. But can you give us a sense of perspective on this?

19:27How good has it been when we look back at how European companies have reported? It's taken a lot of market participants, both investors and sell-side strategists, by surprise. And I want to put that in context a little bit, because European companies in the last two years have had essentially zero profit growth. And that was underpinned by poor economic growth, both a lot of it domestically. But this year, what happened was European stocks started off the year on a really solid footing, right? You had the AI trade cracking in the US. But at that time, Europe was turning attractive because it had these, there was a new buzzword on Wall Street at the time, it was called halo, heavy assets, low obsolescence.

20:06So suddenly the asset heavy, old economy stuff is becoming attractive. But before that could really take off, you had the US-Iran war. And that exposed a lot of European companies to the potential for higher oil prices. There were worries that European economies would tip into stagflation. So expectations had, on the macro front, been tempered a bit. But coming into the second quarter earnings season, analyst expectations were incredibly strong. Analysts were expecting MSCI Europe companies to post a 12 % increase in profits versus a year earlier. As I said previously, after two years of no growth, that was already a high bar.

20:48What's been astounding is that not only have the companies met that bar, they've actually beaten it by quite a wide margin. So they've posted 17 % increase in profits, and that's the best since late 2022. Of course, the economy has been surprisingly resilient to the oil price shock. We haven't quite seen that feed through to inflation to a degree that had been feared. So that's been underpinning that. But the really big takeaway for us this season has been that the typical pattern in a year is generally that analysts start the year really bullish. And then through the year, they downgrade earnings expectations.

21:27This year, it's been the opposite. Not only have they come in bullish, but they've actually raised earnings expectations for 2026 by 5%, which is really atypical. So that bodes well for further bullishness. Okay, I mean, the inflation concerns, David, really are central to what things look like for the rest of the year as well. We've talked about the resilience in the European economies that we've seen so far. But given that energy prices still remain elevated, how big is the inflation risk when we're thinking about the picture for the coming months? There were these fears of stagflation. We haven't had the stag, but we've had the flation.

22:01So if we look back at headline CPI in January, it was 1.7 percent. Commodity prices started to rise in February in anticipation of a conflict in the Middle East. And then when it actually began at the very end of February, commodity prices shot up. And the latest inflation reading is 2.9 percent, so well above the ECB's 2 percent target. And that is really what's driving the ECB's decisions right now. We expect another hike from the ECB in September, and that's universally expected by most economists and priced into the market. And really what's going to drive their decisions after that is how commodity prices are affecting inflation.

22:49And that, of course, is tied up with the outcome of the conflict in the Middle East. And no one can say with exact certainty where we're going to be at the end of the year in terms of that. But we're on track for another hike. And if this persists, we could have more tightening as the ECB worries about inflation. However, the good news is that core inflation is unlikely to rise as much. We have had some increase. things that are particularly vulnerable to commodity prices like airfares have gone up but the weakness in the labour market is unlikely to allow workers to ask for huge increases in pay that we saw after the pandemic that really boosted inflation keeping underlying inflation pressures limited this year.

23:40Indeed so the risk of a wage price spiral not looking looming large at the moment. Sagarika, in the earnings pictures, did we hear much from companies about their inflation fears? I think in terms of inflation, the sentiment from management has been really positive. They have sounded really confident on profit margins. And actually, a really key part of that, and this goes back to the AI story in the US, one of the other fundamental reasons why this bullishness toward European companies and the European stock market It is that changing attitude from investors on who are the next AI winners. So that was a key focus for how are companies in Europe being able to monetize productivity efficiency from AI.

24:23And we're seeing nascent signs of that now. Initially, in the first leg of the AI rally, it was all focused on the big spenders on AI, on developing AI. And those companies are based in the US. So Europe had been at a disadvantage then. It had underperformed US indexes because you don't have those big AI developers here. But what you do have are both sides of the other sides of that supply chain where you've got the semiconductor parts makers that allow for AI to be deployed. But you then also have companies, and Benedict was mentioning this earlier in her snippet, you have companies like banks who have already started to show that they can monetize AI in a way that is translating into earnings growth and margin growth.

25:06And they're confident that they can defend that going forward. So that's keeping optimism alive as well. What about the other asset classes? We're talking specifically about equities so far. But I mean, in terms of other European assets, are there interesting trends to be watching out for? Definitely. We were looking into this theme earlier with my cross-asset colleagues. And it's quite notable, economically speaking, or economically speaking, stocks and bonds generally behave in opposite directions. That's the fundamental rule of economics. This time around, we noticed that European stocks are rallying at the same time as there's growing bullishness on bonds.

25:46And the reason for that is that, and David mentioned this earlier as well, the economy is in a sweet spot at the moment where economic momentum is picking up from lows. So there's a Citigroup index which measures the degree to which data are coming in better than expected. And that economic momentum is the highest since March 2023. But at the same time, absolute growth figures are still trailing the US. And there is more policy certainty at the moment in Europe, or at least it's being viewed that way, versus the US. So investors are certainly bullish on stocks and bonds at the same time, which is really rare.

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26:22David, we're sort of belying the dismal science of economics by being so positive about the picture going ahead for the rest of the year. I just wonder what risks we should have our eyes on when we're thinking about what could derail this momentum and this resilience for the European economy. Probably the biggest risk is the obvious one of commodity prices shooting higher, much higher, again, if the conflict in the Middle East were to escalate. And beyond that, it's probably that the increase in commodity prices that's driving up headline inflation, if that starts to appear more strongly in underlying inflation, even though the labour market is weaker than it was several years ago, because that would probably cause the ECB to tighten much more aggressively than we currently think it will.

27:09Okay. So, the question of investors diversifying away from the US, looking for other options away from the US has been something that's benefited Europe in the past. Is there any sign that that momentum could continue or be a theme as we're looking towards the rest of the year? Absolutely. And that underpins the broadening trade that has been going on this year. So, investors are looking within the US, but outside of tech. But that is also leading them to other more attractively valued stocks, which are in Asia or Europe. And again, it goes back to the economic momentum because Europe is chock full of sectors that are very closely linked with the economic cycle.

27:47Again, banks, industrials, miners. These companies tend to do well when the economic growth is sustainable and it's resilient. That's what's drawing investors this time around. And we've seen that in the earnings picture as well. it is the miners, energy, industrials, financials, which have really contributed the most to profit growth. Okay. Sagarika Jason Ghani, who is covering EMEA equities, macro and investment strategy at Bloomberg. Thank you. And from Bloomberg Economics, David Powell, our senior euro area economist. We'll have more on those data points and the PMI surveys for France, Germany and the euro area on Bloomberg Radio this week.

28:23I'm Stephen Carroll in London. You can catch us every weekday morning for Bloomberg Daybreak Europe, beginning at 6am in London and 1am on Wall Street. Nathan? Thanks, Stephen. And coming up on Bloomberg Daybreak Weekend, we'll take a closer look at the fate of the yen. I'm Nathan Hager, and this is Bloomberg.

29:01innovation, and the future of business. Every weekday, we bring you the latest insights on Silicon Valley's top companies and conversations with tech's biggest decision makers. Listen to Bloomberg Tech on your commute home and stay ahead of the news cycle. Subscribe today on Apple, Spotify, or anywhere you listen. This is Bloomberg Daybreak Weekend, our global look ahead at the top stories for investors in the coming week. I'm Nathan Hager in Washington. The persistent weakness of the yen continues to be a troubling issue for Japanese policymakers. For a closer look, let's get to the host of the Bloomberg Daybreak Asia podcast, Doug Krisner.

29:39Thanks, Nathan. The yen's weakness is a problem for the U.S. as well, so much so that two weeks ago, the U.S. and Japan surprised markets with a coordinated effort to strengthen the yen for the first time since 1998. The problem is, since that intervention, half of the yen's gains have been wiped out. Now, several factors are weighing on Japan's currency, including the gap between Japan's ultra-low interest rates and those in the U.S. and other major economies. Now, the situation could be remedied to some extent if the Bank of Japan were to raise rates. We know that inflation in Japan has been above target for years.

30:17Now, in the week ahead, we'll get fresh price data for Japan with the GDP deflator. For a look at the dynamics, I spoke with Bloomberg News macro strategist Michael Ball. I started the conversation by asking whether the intervention was a watershed moment or whether we're making too much of this move. No, I don't think we're making too much of it. I think, again, we've crept up back to this 160s area. And again, that seems to be the line in the sand that the market has in mind for that's where coordinated intervention, both Treasury and the MOF and the BOJ together all have to basically signal that this is where we're going to defend.

30:51until we get to September or potentially October, where you could see rate hikes from the BOJ to, again, give a more fundamental story why the yen should appreciate and to change this feedback loop. It's just a negative feedback loop of weaker yen, me getting weaker yen because of positioning. So from the U.S. position, is Treasury Secretary Besant looking more at what's happening in the U.S. Treasury market than he is the currency market? And he's concerned that we may see a backup in U.S. yields? Yes, I think that's the primary goal here. And I think he signaled that in several ways. One, obviously, for his worry that the intervention will not only be the selling of bills, which has been up to date now how they've done it, but more on actually the long end.

31:29So again, if they didn't have access, let's say, to the FEMA kind of facility as a backstop, or they didn't have access to the international repo market, or even the repo facilities, the other ones that are available at the Fed, then they would have to sell longer end treasuries, whether the 10s or 30s. And the curve, which has already been under pressure since the July FOMC would come under further pressure, and that would actually force the hands. So you mentioned FEMA. Just to unpack that a little bit, this is a vehicle that would essentially allow Japan to borrow dollars to post U.S. treasuries essentially as a form of collateral so they wouldn't be net sellers of U.S.

32:03treasuries to dump that inventory into the market and run the risk of pushing U.S. yields even higher, right? Exactly. And there is a limit to that amount. I think it's around$60 billion, which in a sense is a little bit small for what is needed, because let's keep in mind, the initial intervention that happened last week saw about$80 billion of bill selling by the MOF to actually support and buy yen. So this one itself is, you know, more of a backstop. It hasn't been used yet because it's more expensive. It's about 25 basis points over what a normal repo rate would be to do something like this.

32:34But in its signaling effect, it's much larger because again, what we may see from with the new Fed leader, Kevin Warsh, is to lift the limit there, which then would be a much bigger signaling effect. And overall, with all the other tools, the Japanese then could just have this as well as a backstop. So take me back to the currency market, what this means for not only the dollar, but the Japanese yen again. Yeah, exactly. And again, there's other things going on in Japan that is making us worry that they'll be selling treasury holdings. And as they sell treasury holdings, obviously, then they weaken sort of the dollars.

33:05They bring money back into the yen. But specific to what this intervention was about, again, it was to initially stop official account selling of the treasury market. And what it really means for the dollar is, you know, for that cross itself, it would weaken the dollar against the yen and effectively put more pressure even on long end real rates, which is counterintuitive because the rate differential story would be off there. But then it's a capital flow account thing where basically you're just seeing selling of dollar assets by Japanese holders. So we know what the disinflation or deflation story in Japan has been like for three decades.

33:35and we know that the BOJ these days has been very, very conservative, moving very gradually. You could make a case, given the level of inflation now in Japan, that the BOG needs to be a little bit more aggressive. That's not happening. Is there the risk, though, that if they begin to lean into more of a tightening, that we could see a repatriation of Japanese assets leaving global markets like the U.S. and coming back to Japan? Well, it might actually be the incident. I think you actually nailed on the head. I think they took so long for them to get inflation to kind of get going again. And it has gotten going again.

34:10Obviously, they have more energy sensitivity and we know what's going on there. But it took them so long to get rates off the ZERP and get them off the floor and get inflation back ingrained in sort of the day-to-day consumer that they're very worried that if they sort of even tighten a little bit, they're going to lose that progress. But to your point, if they do tighten, if they come out in, say, September and they issue maybe a statement that's more hawkish than expected, and October is getting priced up again, because right now September is about two-third price for hike. And if they don't go then, the expectation will be 100 % for October.

34:38But let's say they just do back to back. You would see that curve flatten. So you'd see the long end of the treasury curve, their treasury curve over there, come off and get a rally. And that actually would give you less incentive to repatriate back into the Japanese assets, effectively into their bonds, because one, liquidity is not great there. Two, then your rate differential story is not as compelling anymore, because by hiking in the front end, they're effectively showing that they have more responsibility towards the back end as far as monetary policy. So what's your sense in terms of yen weakness?

35:08Is the worst over, at least in the near term? Yeah, I mean, that's a great question. I think a lot of that has to do maybe with energy as well. Obviously, they have some sort of, well, not some sort of, they have a higher correlation here with oil prices. Oil where it is now and the rate of change there stays stable, then it's less of a pressure on them there. I think you're right. I think in a lot of ways, well, not that you're right, but what you're hinting at is that the worst could be over if we see this coordinated intervention lead to basically hold a period of time before you see actual rate hikes.

35:35To what extent could the market be surprised right now? Is the trade so crowded that we risk maybe a kind of, I don't want to say a violent adjustment, but something that could be dramatic? So the trades come off, to your point, I think what a lot of that was last week was that people were caught off sides by the coordination. And now obviously the size. It was a somewhat large imprint they had in the market. And people were basically still leaning very short yen. And that's cleaned up nicely. We get the CFTC data. That's one way to look at it. But also we're hearing sort of from flow traders that a lot of that has come off.

36:07And it's a much flatter position. People are more nervous now. There's two-sided risks to where the yen can go. And again, this 160 level is sort of the pivot, where if we drift above 160, I think people will be more empowered to short it. Traders will think that the intervention was a one-off and they're not really disciplined or committed to it. And if it goes lower, then the feedback loop, actually, people will probably try and rush into it to get ahead of maybe a more structural change, which would, again, be real rate hikes coming down the road. Michael, we'll leave it there. Thanks for your perspective on the end story.

36:34That is Bloomberg macro strategist Michael Ball. We turn next to Hong Kong and how its competitiveness as a financial center is about to be tested by two opposing forces. Bloomberg opinion columnist Chuli Ren is based in Hong Kong, and she has been writing about what she calls a reality check. Chuli joins us now from Hong Kong. Thank you for being here. You've been writing in your latest piece that last year Hong Kong overtook Switzerland as the world's largest cross-border wealth hub. I didn't realize that. Talk to me about the positive forces that could further cement that position. What we are seeing is a rebound in Hong Kong's asset management industry last year.

37:17A lot of global hedge funds, they were opening a shop in Hong Kong and they were actually expanding their office space. We're talking about Citadel, Jane Street, point 72. One reason is that they want to be close to the deep talent pool in mainland China. For educated, smart mainland Chinese to move to Hong Kong, it's very easy, whereas it would be very difficult for them to move to, say, London or New York. And with global hedge funds stuck in a very heated talent fight and paying more and more money to young analysts, they find Hong Kong quite attractive. So when you look at the possibility that things could change, let's go to the negative side of the equation now, which would maybe erode Hong Kong's standing in terms of the asset management industry.

38:11What could be a negative in this story? At the end of the day, Hong Kong is still very integrated into China. Sure, Hong Kong is the world's largest cross-border wealth management hub. But according to Boston Consulting Group estimates, 60 % of the money still came from mainland China. And right now, the problem is that the Chinese government is a bit short on cash. So they want the mainland Chinese to cough up unpaid capital gains taxes. The Chinese government is a little bit short on cash. So they're in a global tax hunt for capital gains that mainland Chinese made overseas. And a lot of that money is in Hong Kong.

38:56So we're talking about billions of dollars of unpaid tax bills that mainland Chinese will somehow have to cough up to liquidate their existing assets in Hong Kong. And that hurts Hong Kong's asset management industry. So we've talked about the polarity here, these two opposing poles, one that would prove to be very positive for the asset management industry in Hong Kong, that tax reform. The other is obviously the influence on the negative side that Beijing would have in terms of the crackdown on a lot of cross-border activity, including a levy on overseas capital gains, which I think is 20%. Do you have a sense of how this may shake out and what may happen at the end of the day?

39:41I think what will happen is that traditional investment banking services, for instance, crime brokerages, sales and trading, they will do very well. On the other hand, private wealth management, which has been the fastest growing sector, they are likely to have peaked. So it's an issue of whether or not Hong Kong is going to preserve its competitive edge as a financial center. Do we need to talk about what's happening with the IPO market, particularly as mainland Chinese companies are concerned? Well, the IPO market is doing very well. And that's the thing. The Chinese government is happy with that.

40:22They think, oh, it's great, you know, Hong Kong could be a good capital allocation hub for mainland Chinese companies to get financing, to develop their AI capabilities, etc. And that is where Hong Kong politically stands on the good side of Beijing. On the other side, Hong Kong shouldn't continue to be seen as a place where wealthy Chinese hide their assets from their government's watchful eye. So you know very well when we talk about talent in the financial services industry, we have to talk about the technology that some of these firms are using. Talk to me about the extent to which asset managers in Hong Kong are using artificial intelligence these days.

41:09Well, this is an interesting development because the Western artificial intelligence labs, they don't allow people in Hong Kong to use their products. For instance, we cannot use open AI or Anthropics products. So what will happen is that these global asset managers will end up using cheap Chinese models because they have no choice, right? And I think that actually might help the proliferation of Chinese models in the asset management industry. Shuli, we'll leave it there. Thank you so very much. That is Bloomberg opinion columnist Shuli Ren. Her latest piece, Hong Kong's low tax lure is getting a reality check.

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