In short
Bloomberg Daybreak Weekend’s outlook for the coming week: U.S. jobs and inflation data for the Fed, UK Labour Party conference and Andy Burnham’s upcoming budget, and the Reserve Bank of Australia (RBA) rate decision amid diesel-driven inflation risk. It also includes stock-earnings previews (Carnival, Micron, Nike) and a tech segment on Suno AI music.
Guests (backgrounds)
Edward Harrison, senior strategist for Bloomberg News and author of Everything Risk; Judy LeGroux, Bloomberg News reporter covering stocks/earnings; James Wilcock, Bloomberg UK politics reporter; Lizzie Galbraith, senior political economist at Aberdeen; Doug Krissner, host of Bloomberg Daybreak Asia; James McIntyre, Bloomberg economist covering Australia and New Zealand.
Key claims
U.S. jobs likely strong; PCE may stay above 3% and keep Fed pressure on; October hike odds could rise. UK budget likely “contained/small,” with fiscal headroom tight after tax rises. RBA expected to hike again due to diesel/energy inflation and inflation expectations, even as unemployment rises.
Notable examples
U.S. Atlanta Fed GDP tracker ~5.1% real (implying >8% nominal). Carnival faces oil/spot fuel risk; Royal Caribbean buying a 50% stake in Sandals. Micron benefits from AI memory demand but faces contract/upside warnings. Nike faces China/inventory/discounting scrutiny and Kylian Mbappé’s move to ON. Suno TikTok trend turns text messages into songs.
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0:00 to 0:30
Learn how IBM is integrating AI into HR systems, achieving significant efficiency.
“So there's a lot of noise about AI, but time's too tight for more promises.”
Show Overview and Hosts Introduction
0:57 to 1:26
Introduction to Bloomberg Daybreak Weekend and the hosts discussing upcoming topics.
Show Overview and Hosts Introduction
1:30 to 1:40
Introduction to Bloomberg Daybreak Weekend and the hosts discussing upcoming topics.
Economic Data Insights
1:40 to 2:58
Explore the upcoming economic data and its implications for the markets.
“This is Bloomberg Daybreak Weekend, our global look at the top stories in the coming week from our Daybreak anchors all around the world.”
Discussion with Edward Harrison on Economic Risks
2:58 to 7:58
Analyzing the economic landscape and potential risks associated with inflation and employment data.
“and author of the Everything Risk newsletter.”
Stocks to Watch This Week
7:58 to 14:00
Insights into major stocks reporting this week and their market implications.
“That is Edward Harrison, senior strategist for Bloomberg News and author of the Everything Risk newsletter.”
Nike's Changes on the Horizon
14:00 to 14:27
Learn about the significant changes expected for Nike from both consumer and company perspectives.
“And so definitely a lot of changes there for Nike on the horizon.”
Nike's Changes on the Horizon
15:24 to 16:29
Learn about the significant changes expected for Nike from both consumer and company perspectives.
“AI is creating a new path for musical stardom.”
Nike's Changes on the Horizon
16:51 to 17:10
Learn about the significant changes expected for Nike from both consumer and company perspectives.
“Hear from influential corporate and government leaders as they discuss the strategies shaping Canada's economic future.”
UK Prime Minister Andy Burnham's Challenges
17:10 to 17:45
Discussion on Andy Burnham's leadership challenges and upcoming budget release.
“This is Bloomberg Daybreak Weekend, our global look ahead at the top stories for investors in the coming week.”
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Tax Increases and Economic Balance
17:45 to 19:46
Exploration of the fiscal pressures the UK government faces regarding tax increases.
“Recently, Burnham has hinted that he doesn't want his government to repeat the tax increases of the last two Labour budgets.”
The Future of Fiscal Rules in the UK
19:46 to 20:38
Insight from Lizzie Galbraith on the potential changes in fiscal rules.
“We do think they're going to be looking at additional capital spending, particularly to get to things like the defence spending targets without needing to go to taxation.”
Party Conference Dynamics and Reactions
20:38 to 23:06
Discussion on the dynamics of the Labour Party conference and Andy Burnham's leadership.
“And what should we be looking ahead to as his party gathers in the next few days in Liverpool?”
Budget Challenges Ahead for Labour
23:06 to 26:06
Analysis of the Labour Party's budget challenges and potential strategies.
“And will he sort of acknowledge that there are some more difficult times ahead?”
Fragmented UK Political Landscape
26:06 to 28:01
Examination of the current fragmented political landscape in the UK and its implications.
“And that was seen by many experts at the time as one of the lowest figures in record.”
UK Political Landscape and Challenges
28:01 to 29:35
A discussion on the fragmented nature of UK politics and the implications for governance.
“We are used to a two major party political system, Labour and the Conservatives, the left and the right fight.”
Upcoming Labour Party Conference Coverage
29:35 to 30:47
Preview of the upcoming Labour Party conference and its significance.
“And we are going to bring you full coverage of the Labour Party conference in Liverpool across Bloomberg platform.”
AI in Music Creation with Suno
30:52 to 31:57
Exploring how AI is changing music creation and its implications for the industry.
“AI is creating a new path for musical stardom.”
RBA's Upcoming Rate Decision Preview
32:44 to 34:47
An overview of the Reserve Bank of Australia's expected rate decision and economic implications.
“This week, the Reserve Bank of Australia is expected to raise its policy rate.”
Impact of Rate Hikes on Housing Market
34:47 to 39:56
Analyzing the effects of interest rate changes on Australia's housing market.
“What do we know about what Australians are feeling about future inflation?”
AI Infrastructure and Investment Trends
39:56 to 42:03
Discussion on the trends in AI infrastructure investment in Australia amidst economic challenges.
“and some tax changes from the government that have dented confidence.”
Australian AI Infrastructure and Investment Boom
42:03 to 45:19
Discusses the current state of AI infrastructure investment in Australia amidst economic conditions.
“Not a day goes by when we're not discussing the build-out of infrastructure related to artificial intelligence.”
Australian AI Infrastructure and Investment Boom
45:46 to 46:48
Discusses the current state of AI infrastructure investment in Australia amidst economic conditions.
“Top stories and global business headlines are coming up right now.”
Australian AI Infrastructure and Investment Boom
47:22 to 47:38
Discusses the current state of AI infrastructure investment in Australia amidst economic conditions.
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Transcript
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1:26Learn more at mastercard.com slash small business. Bloomberg Audio Studios. Podcasts. Radio. News. This is Bloomberg Daybreak Weekend, our global look at the top stories in the coming week from our Daybreak anchors all around the world. Straight ahead on the program, we look to a busy week of economic data. I'm Nathan Hager in Washington. I'm Caroline Hepker in London, where we're looking at Prime Minister Andy Burnham's plans ahead of his first Labour Party conference as leader. I'm Doug Krissner looking at whether higher inflation in Australia will push the central bank to raise its policy rate.
2:09That's all straight ahead on Bloomberg Daybreak Weekend. On Bloomberg 1130 New York, Bloomberg 99.1 Washington, D.C., Bloomberg 92.9 Boston, DAB Digital Radio London, Sirius XM 121, and around the world on BloombergRadio.com and the Bloomberg Business App.
2:32Good day to you. I'm Nathan Hager. We begin today's program with a busy week of economic data to look forward to in the U.S. The Fed's preferred gauge of inflation, the personal consumption expenditures index for August, comes out Wednesday. Then we get a broad read of the labor market in the September non-farm payrolls report due out Friday. Plenty of risks to consider, so let's bring in Edward Harrison for more on this. Ed's the senior strategist for Bloomberg News and author of the Everything Risk newsletter. Great to speak with you as always, Ed, and dare I ask what the bigger risk is this week.
3:07I mean, the Fed's been laser focused on the inflation side of the mandate. Does that change after this week? No, Nathan, I think it doesn't change. The last time you and I spoke, we spoke about the jobs number. We talked about the potential for that number to undershoot as a result of people who have temporary protected status leaving temporary protected status. That didn't happen. The number was actually ahead of expectations. And on top of that, there were backward revisions that were up. I think that in the interim, we've seen the data come in very strong. So this week, we should be looking for strength and that strength potentially having a negative effect on the bond market in particular by sending yields higher.
3:58Now, what about the inflation side of the mandate? We do, as I mentioned, get that PCE index on Wednesday. Where do you see that coming down? Well, you know, the consensus is for it to stay put at 3.7 % in terms of the headline number, but the core is actually supposed to go up from 3.3 % to 3.4%. My understanding is there may be some slight changes in how they calculated. That means that it could go under that number 3.4. So my expectation is definitely it will be above 3. But there is more risk that it goes lower than the consensus has right now. Okay. So what has you thinking that it could potentially go lower, especially when we think about the surge in energy prices that we've seen this month?
4:54It's purely just in terms of a mechanistic recalculating of the input for PCE. They've talked about that. And my understanding is that that should be beneficial despite the fact that we've had inflation being problematic. But let's remember that this is the number that the Fed watches and both the core and the headline number are going to be above 3%. And their mandate is for a 2 % inflation target. So however you slice it, the number is going to be elevated. The only positive is if the number is slightly lower than expected, but that doesn't take the pressure off of the Fed. When we think about the pressure that has been on the Fed right now with so many officials saying that there is more work to do to get inflation back to the 2 % target.
5:49Could this PCE number bring an October decision into play? Definitely. Because if you look at the swaps market, as late as Thursday of last week, we saw something in the order of two-thirds priced in for a rate hike in October. We also saw that it was fully priced for December so that pricing could move up from two-thirds price to a fully price and perhaps even pricing in both a rate hike in October and December. And of course, then the question becomes, what does the GDP number look like after that? And what are the jobs numbers look like after that as well? And thinking about the GDP number as well, How much of this inflation, the fact that we are continuing to see elevated inflation well above the Fed's target, driven by strength in the economy itself?
6:44I mean, we just got those survey numbers from businesses this past week that point to a pretty resilient economy still. Yeah, those S &P PMI numbers were really very strong last week. My sense is that the watchword is overheating. That is, the potential is that the economy is so strong that inflation has become more embedded, and it's also become stronger as a result of diesel prices going higher. If you look at GDP now, which is the Atlanta Fed's tracker for the quarter of GDP, it was running at 5.1%. Now, 5.1%, not including inflation, if you take inflation into account, that gives you nominal GDP in excess of 8%.
7:42That's a number that you almost never see. And that shows you an economy that's hot, almost to the point of overheating. And that's negative, obviously, for inflation, and it's also negative for bonds. Thanks for this, Ed. Always good to talk with you. That is Edward Harrison, senior strategist for Bloomberg News and author of the Everything Risk newsletter. Let's take a look now at some stocks making news in the week ahead. I'm Nathan Hager with Bloomberg News reporter Judy LeGru at the tail end of earnings season. We've still got some pretty big names getting ready to report the results this week, including Carnival Cruise Line on Tuesday.
8:23How's travel demand right now, Judy? I mean, when we look at travel demand, we have to really also talk about oil prices and fuel prices and how much the consumer is willing to take. And that, I think, is definitely going to be the theme of Carnival Cruise Line's third quarter earnings that are expected to be released before market open on Tuesday. So, analysts are expecting roughly$8.4 billion in revenue, which would be a record high for the company. But on the flip side, Nathan, it would also represent its weakest growth in over five years. So definitely like a tale of really conflicting messages here that I think analysts and investors will definitely be looking forward to sorting out.
9:06Carnival, the stock itself is down about 30 % this year. And I think also Carnival is a really interesting case because they don't do futures for oil or fuel. So they're really reliant on those spot prices. And that is something that Bloomberg Intelligence has actually pointed out as a big risk for the company. So a lot to see there with respect to oil price volatility and travel demand all in the same package. Yeah. You wonder whether they're going to have to raise the ticket prices that people pay to get into those rooms when we are seeing energy prices surging the way we have. It's also kind of an interesting time as well, isn't it?
9:47When we just heard over the last few days that one of Carnival's competitors, Royal Caribbean, is kind of in deal mode a little bit. What are we thinking in terms of how that affects cruise lines more broadly, what the competition looks like in the space? Nathan, that's a really great question. Yes, Royal Caribbean this week agreed to buy a 50 % stake in sandals for about$3 billion. And so this will give Royal Caribbean access to the all-inclusive resorts all across the Caribbean that are owned by Sandals. And so I think what this will really drive is competition among cruise lines to answer the question, what else, right?
10:27We've got the cruise, but what else can you provide? What's the value add for the consumer in the environment of increasing prices? So I think that is really heating up the conversation, no pun intended, with the Caribbean mention there. But definitely fueling that competition among cruise lines for sure. Yeah, what's in it for me? Always the question, right? And speaking of rising costs, I mean, this has got to be the marquee earnings report of the week. We hear from Micron Technology on Wednesday. So much attention on the chip space. So much attention on the massive run-up in memory prices. That's right.
11:04And ticker MU Micron is definitely a name to watch for its expectations here. So, yes, earnings are scheduled to be released after market close on Wednesday. And this is really interesting from an analyst perspective. Analysts are expecting a$51 billion quarter for the company, a near five-fold increase from last year. And so, as we all know, we've said time and time again, AI demand is really driving the shortage of memory chips. So Micron is on the winning side of that. However, recently, actually this week, Morningstar analysts cut their rating for Micron to sell. And UBS issued a warning that long-term customer contracts could start limiting the upside for Micron, calling Micron, quote, the battleground between momentum and duration.
11:54That's just such an epic description. I had to really drop that in. But here, what to watch, investors and analysts alike will be looking at the forecast for next quarter. Micron really needs to show that demand and pricing can stay strong. And we'll also be listening for commentary from management about that sustainability, what will drive it and what are they looking at in terms of full-year outlook. Yeah, especially when there's been so much debate around whether to pare back the development of artificial intelligence, The whole pacing debate is going to be really interesting to hear if there's any further commentary on that from Micron as well.
12:33On Thursday, we hear from Nike. This company could use some good news, Junie. Nike, ticker NKE, right? The sneaker company is on pace, Nathan, to have its worst year since 1993, which is the same year as Michael Jordan's first retirement. So that's really a historic year for Nike. Doesn't that put it in context? My goodness. Oh my gosh. Certainly half our listeners were twinkles in their mother's eye that year, and the other half were their mother or father's eye, right? There you go. Recovering all bases there. But yes, for Nike, this is a major test of whether that turnaround is showing up. So analysts will be looking for how much North American profit growth will offset international weakness.
13:20And certainly China has been in the news for Nike in particular. Wall Street is expecting first quarter revenue to fall by 3 % to$11.3 billion. So the bar is low. It's low here. But investors are still cautious. If there are any surprises, definitely looking at margin in particular. Last quarter got a one-time boost from a tariff refund. So this quarter will give a cleaner look at whether discounting or inventory is actually helping. And then I would be remiss to not mention that the departure of French soccer star Kylian Mbappe, who was with Nike for 20 years, talk about another blast for the past, and recently signed with ON.
14:06And so definitely a lot of changes there for Nike on the horizon. And I think definitely of interest from a consumer lens and also from a company turnaround lens as well. All right. Got to be the shoes. Thank you, Judy. As always. Thank you, Nathan. Judy LeGroux reporting for Bloomberg News on stocks this week. And coming up on Bloomberg Daybreak Weekend, UK Prime Minister Andy Burnham faces Labor Party leaders ahead of the release of his party's new financial plans. We have the details. I'm Nathan Hager and this is Bloomberg.
14:53We'll see you next time.
15:10The key to being rich is knowing what counts. Let's find your rich together. Edward Jones, member SIPC. This is the Bloomberg Tech Minute brought to you by ChatGPT. Now with ChatGPT work. I'm Carol Masser. AI is creating a new path for musical stardom. As Bloomberg's Lucas Shaw and Ashley Carman report, Suno, an AI-generated music company, lets users generate a song in any style based on a text prompt. People can upload their own lyrics or start from scratch, record their own voices, or rely on ones provided by Suno. While most of the songs generated on the service go unheard of by the masses, a few have taken off, including a recent TikTok trend that involves users uploading text messages to Suno and turning them into musical performances, like taking that text from a crazy night out and making it a gospel song.
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17:16This is Bloomberg Daybreak Weekend, our global look ahead at the top stories for investors in the coming week. I'm Nathan Hager in Washington. Up later in the program, the Reserve Bank of Australia is expected to raise interest rates this week. We'll head down under for details. But first, in the coming days, UK Prime Minister Andy Burnham faces Labour Party members and senior figures at the party's annual gathering. But will he be able to maintain control ahead of releasing widely anticipated government financial plans? For more, let's go to London and bring in Bloomberg Daybreak Europe anchor Caroline Hepger.
17:49Nathan, UK Prime Minister Andy Burnham is just over two Two months into his tenure and perhaps facing his most significant challenge yet, the former mayor of Greater Manchester is gearing up for his first Labour Party conference as the leader of the party and prime minister, and even more crucially preparing to release a hotly anticipated budget in October. Recently, Burnham has hinted that he doesn't want his government to repeat the tax increases of the last two Labour budgets. Former Chancellor of the Exchequer Rachel Reeves delivered budgets that raise taxes by a cumulative£68 billion by 2029-2030.
18:30That's according to the Office for Budget Responsibility projections. That will lift the tax take to a record 38 % of economic output at the end of the decade. And avoiding further increases may be quite a tricky balance. Most economists expect that the government will have to raise some taxes to help plug the gap in public finances. Lizzie Galbraith, senior political economist at Aberdeen, has been talking about the pressures on the UK government. So we don't think that the government is going to be in a position to make any changes to the fiscal rules at this stage. Now, some in Andy Burnham's team have previously said that they would like to look at those long term.
19:14We still think that that is something that they will be considering further ahead, potentially as part of manifesto commitments, as an example. But for now, we don't think that they're going to be considering it, partly because of the international context in which the UK sits. It is facing concerns for investors about its fiscal position and we don't think they're going to be wanting to give that any more fuel by changing the fiscal rules themselves. Could more flexibility be found within the capital spending rules? Possibly. We do think they're going to be looking at additional capital spending, particularly to get to things like the defence spending targets without needing to go to taxation.
20:02But you're absolutely right to point out that spending is another area where I think there is a lot of tension at the moment. Now, we know that a lot of the big areas of policy change have been punted to the other side of the budget. So our expectation is actually that this autumn, we're going to see something fairly contained, fairly small, that actually kicks the can into next year on a lot of these issues. That was Lizzie Galbraith, Senior Political Economist at Aberdeen, speaking to me on Bloomberg Radio in the last few days. So, can Burnham balance the books? And what should we be looking ahead to as his party gathers in the next few days in Liverpool?
20:44Joining me now is Bloomberg's UK politics reporter, James Wilcock, because, of course, you and I are getting ready to join all of those activists, the MPs, the councillors, the think tanks and the media up in Liverpool for a few days of party conference. So what can we expect? You're a party conference veteran, James. I mean, it is the most fascinating gathering of the party faithful. Like you said, you have members who are trained to be councillors in the party trying to win an election. You have the donors and the businessmen trying to reach people. You have the ministers trying to put out their key messages.
21:18And that leads to some unlikely events. I mean, I've been in a karaoke bar listening to remixes of Margaret Thatcher pop at the Conservatives. I know. And I've also ended up at a reggae labour night run by a cabinet minister. And so these kind of big explosions where, frankly, political nerds and anoraks gather are unusual in sort of modern politics as a moment where the rank and file meet some of the most senior people in the land and senior ministers try to rejuvenate their bases, set a political direction, but also meet quite a lot of business people along the sidelines. Yeah, which is of interest to ask.
21:57I mean, what do you think is going to be the mood maybe and the significance of this Labour Party conference? It's going to be really strange because it's the mood I'm getting from talking to Labour sources is everyone is remarkably upbeat. They have a new popular leader, Andy Burnham. They are seeing the polls go up and they've had a summer of good vibes campaigning effectively. But take a step back a bit. Two years ago, Labour won a landslide majority to reshape the UK under Keir Starmer. They are halfway through that government and they have dethroned their leader and gotten rid of him. And now they face a difficult fiscal picture ahead.
22:39And it's unclear what Andy Burnham's political direction is. He has made a lot of messaging and good vibes and bringing optimism back and tackling the cost of living. He's very clear on some of those issues. But when push comes to fiscal shove and there is a UK budget ahead, it's going to be interesting to see how he comes to this, his first conference, and makes his name known amongst members. What is the messaging going to be? How will he rally the party faithful? And will he sort of acknowledge that there are some more difficult times ahead? Yeah, look, he's talked about nothing less than the biggest change in the UK in 40 years.
23:19And if you look at the pamphlet, the introduction to the pamphlet for the Labour Party conference written by Burnham, he says, together, let's bring back hope and get Britain believing again. So you get that idea that there's going to be hope and optimism. What are the key moments to watch out for? Because the other thing that I would add to that is that Burnham is also coming back and attending this conference, just as he's been in the US, in New York, and had quite a successful, by most accounts, meeting with President Trump. What are the key moments going to be to watch out for now here in the UK?
23:55Well, the two scheduled ones, and there were a couple of others I should mention as well, The two scheduled ones are the Chancellor speaks, Chancellor John Healy, also a new Chancellor, and also trying to sort of introduce himself to the party faithful and set out a message ahead of the budget, which is only in four weeks time by the time conference starts. And then Andy Burnham's leader speech. And again, those are the two we're all keeping our eyes on. But here are some of the other things. Famously, Labour is marked by protesters. Keir Starmer was covered in glitter in a recent conference a couple of years back and had to respond to that.
24:25But it's worth saying that it was last year's conference where Andy Burnham, then the mayor of Greater Manchester, caused consternation by talking about the UK not being in hock to the bond markets. And it was that. That was a pre-conference interview with the left-wing New States magazine. So there is plenty of room for former allies of Keir Starmer or other embittered Labour politicians to grind some axes on the fringes of conference. Boris Johnson, before he was prime minister, always used to almost make a massive stir as he would walk through Conservative Party conferences, getting more attention than the prime ministers at the time.
25:00So there's plenty of room for chaos, Caroline, as I'm sure you well know, being up there as well. Yeah, I think it's going to be very, very interesting to watch. Yes. And also, as, of course, Andy Burnham has stood by his bond market comments, which have been so thoroughly examined. It does feel like things have changed, though, in regard to those comments, of course, because, as you see, interest rates ratcheting up. A lot of countries around the world are starting to wonder about indebtedness. So, you know, maybe they're being cast in a new light as well. And on that point, the budget, that's surely going to be a big theme, what the party's plans are.
25:42How can you deliver hope and optimism and maybe some giveaways and changes to things like social care if there isn't the money there? Right. I mean, look, to that debate, there are two numbers that everyone needs to bear in mind in this conversation. One is the headroom. And this is the amount of money the government has spare to pay for emergencies, to worry for sort of bond market movements. Now, the story of Labour in power since 2024 is Rachel Reeves, the Chancellor then, came in and set the headroom at about£10 billion. And that was seen by many experts at the time as one of the lowest figures in record.
26:19And people worried there would be bond market ructions that would put her in jeopardy. And so they were. And so a year later, she, by raising taxes, put her headroom up to something closer to£24 billion. The bond market moves now have halved that. And so we are back near, according to most estimates, including Bloomberg Economics, that low figure. The other number is that Labour, despite putting a manifesto up in 2024 that promised to raise taxes by at most£8 billion, have raised them, as you said at the very start of this conversation, by£68 billion over the course of their two years in government.
26:56Now, Prime Minister Andy Burnham, just last week at the UN, said there has to be the right balance, with his words. And so they face the decision going into this budget. Do they go big and look at big tax rises, big spending cuts, potentially issuing more debt, even as bond yields hit record highs? Or do they try and muddle through and find a smorgasbord of small approaches? Do they try and cut down their headroom? but these kind of big bold ambitious or small muddle through is kind of going to be the question here and if you look at the language from the summer you might be thought of saying it's going to be big and bold if you look at what they're saying now i don't know but there's certainly a lot more economists saying the muddle through approach might be the one that's favoured yeah and so there might be a sort of smaller budget effectively okay um we should add that the other political parties in the UK have also been holding their conferences.
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27:52Has something else emerged of interest in any of those? The problem we have right now is Labour have this big new shiny leader and are resurging in the polls. But UK politics is totally fragmented. We are used to a two major party political system, Labour and the Conservatives, the left and the right fight. And then whoever gets the bigger majority in an election takes total control. That is the way that UK politics works and then gets to change the country as they wish. We now have five parties, Labour, the Conservatives, Reform UK, Liberal Democrats and the Greens, not even getting into the SNP, if we're just keeping it in England, who all poll within about five percentage points of one another, around 20%.
28:32In the UK's winner-takes-all system, that means that any one of them has a good chance of power. And so when the Liberal Democrats at their conference talk about major tax cuts, when reform had a major funding donor scandal at their conference. We haven't yet had the Conservatives, but there is talk of changes to inheritance tax coming there. These are all big, big policies that raise questions about their ability to govern, their big fiscal choices. And although we could be at most two and a half years out from a general election, it's the governing party that decides that in the UK, there are major questions for all of these parties about how fit they are to govern, how ready they are to govern, and what they would do about the difficult fiscal choices ahead.
29:14And yes, of course, it still does put pressure on the governing Labour Party, you know, because voters have a lot of choice. There are a lot of ideas, as you say, floating around and it comes to the kind of economic test, economic credibility test of all of them, which is what I think, I hope you and I are going to try and think about when we're actually up in Liverpool. And we are going to bring you full coverage of the Labour Party conference in Liverpool across Bloomberg platform. So I hope that you'll join our UK politics reporter James Walcock and I for that. James, thank you for being with us.
29:48I'm Caroline Hepker in London. You can catch us also every weekday morning here for Bloomberg Daybreak Europe. That begins at 6 a.m. in London. It's 1 a.m. on Wall Street. Nathan. Thanks, Caroline. And coming up on Bloomberg Daybreak weekend, the Reserve Bank of Australia is expected to raise rates in the coming week. We'll bring you a preview. I'm Nathan Hager, and this is Bloomberg.
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31:32Suno's pitch to investors is that it'll democratize music creation, leading to a more than$5 billion valuation for the company. The music industry, it's watching, as its biggest concern about AI is whether record labels, rights holders, and artists will be compensated for the work they claim built the training models for companies like Suno. Another question? Will these AI bangers have any staying power or just be one-hit wonders? That's the Bloomberg Tech Minute brought to you by ChatGPT. Put ChatGPT to work on your most ambitious ideas and projects. Get started at ChatGPT.com today by selecting Work Mode.
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32:43This is Bloomberg Daybreak Weekend, our global look ahead at the top stories for investors in the coming week. I'm Nathan Hager in Washington. This week, the Reserve Bank of Australia is expected to raise its policy rate. For more, let's get to Doug Krisner, host of the Bloomberg Daybreak Asia podcast. Thanks, Nathan. So far this year, the RBA has raised its policy rate three times. It's currently at 4.35%. Now, in the context of the approaching rate decision, we ask, where does the RBA go from here? The recent data on the Australian labor market shows the unemployment rate rising to 4.6%. So does that indicate that higher rates are beginning to bite?
33:23And does it mean that the RBA may pause with a rate increase in the week ahead? For a closer look, let's bring in Bloomberg economist James McIntyre. James covers the economies of Australia and New Zealand, and he joins from our studios in Sydney. Thank you for being here. So what do you think? What's going to happen this week? Well, I've changed my view, and I think that the RBA is going to deliver another rate hike this week. Wow. Yeah. So, for a long time now, I've been taking the view that the rate hikes that we've delivered earlier this year, I actually thought some of them were probably, maybe even could have been a policy mistake, a little bit of tightening too far.
34:02But what we've seen is that the circumstances have changed. With the persistence of the AI investment boom, we've gotten more and more confidence on that, but the energy story has changed. And that's changed in the matter of the last couple of weeks in particular. And the RBA's views around that and the feedback that they are communicating, that the central bank is communicating, they're getting from firms across the country and their liaison in discussions, is that the diesel price challenge hitting Australia as the world's largest per capita importer of diesel is going to be more of an inflation problem.
34:37And they're having to set aside the labour market in order to head off what is potentially a renewed inflation threat for the economy. So you know very well that for a central banker, inflation expectations carries a lot of weight. What do we know about what Australians are feeling about future inflation? There's the high frequency inflation expectations that we get every week. And there's a very strong correlation between those and what consumers are feeling at the pump. And what consumers are feeling at the pump is, in Australia's case, very much a direct and pretty rapid feed-through from what's happening within the Asian refining complex.
35:17Petrol prices are high, but what's also higher is diesel prices as well, with all of the challenges that are going on between Russia and Ukraine and the off-lining of a lot of Russian refining capacity, meaning that some of the crude price pressures for Asia are translating more than one for one through to the diesel price. And so from inflation expectations perspective, consumers, they've already seen it at the pump on petrol or gasoline, but businesses, and this is where the RBA is getting the steer from firms, businesses who in Australia's case around 80 to 85 % of our freight task within the country is done by road and it's done by road using diesel and those firms are finding that the surcharges on the freight charges that are coming through they're having to really consider that even though demand might not be that strong they've reached the point where they're having to finally begin to pass it through and with diesel prices continuing to lift it's likely that that pressure will come through for firms in november and december key seasonal purchasing decisions for Black Friday and in the run into the holiday season, that's going to be something where firms are indicating to the central bank that those business inflation expectations are tipping just over the edge.
36:37And then the RBA is hearing that and they're communicating that it's time to act. So if you're right, James, and the RBA indeed delivers a 25 basis point rate hike, I'm wondering what Governor Michelle Bullock may feel about doing a little bit more damage, inflicting a little bit more pain on the labour market. Do you think that she would be bothered by that at all? They are. They will be. And they've talked a long time, both Bullock and her predecessor, Philip Lowe, talked about trading a narrow path for the economy, about preserving the gains in the labour market. And Australia's employment-to-population ratio rose quite strongly after the pandemic.
37:14We've seen participation rates rise, and we've managed to bring a whole range of additional people, especially women and older Australians, more and more people into the workforce. And they see that as a policy goal and with a dual mandate. They treat that very seriously. But the comments from Bullock and others, other officials, over the last couple of weeks are that the inflation story is actually looking like it's going to be taking a bit more precedence and we're having to maybe look at sacrificing some of those gains. Bullock in some other commentary. She had a discussion just this week, a fireside chat, talking about how between four and a half to five will probably take the heat out of the labour market from an inflation perspective or ease labour market pressure on inflation.
38:02So we're really seeing that we're getting close to that with the unemployment rate data, while the energy threat and also the strong demand tailwind that everybody knows and businesses know is going to be there as a demand prop underneath the economy. That's still an inflationary, the inflationary tendencies and the pressure points are still there, that the RBA is having to face this very difficult choice of having to potentially sacrifice a little bit more and see that unemployment rate creep higher sooner than they're expecting over coming months to try and head off this inflation challenge.
38:38So as I mentioned a moment ago, we've already had three rate hikes so far this year, and I'm curious about mortgages and the state of the housing market in Australia. It's not great in the housing market right now. It won't take rate cuts to rescue it. The stabilisation could probably happen, in my view, if we actually got some clear signs from the RBA that the rate hike cycle is done. And that's not the message that we're getting right now. The September data is likely to show that we've got another large month-on-month decline in house prices with some of the smaller capital cities that had been more resilient.
39:15Sydney and Melbourne prices have been falling for a couple of months now since the beginning of the year or late last year. But these other smaller capital cities, which had been much, much stronger, had better affordability characteristics, etc., etc., they're now starting to show the same sorts of declines that we're seeing in the two major capitals. So there is a major wealth effect here hitting consumers. There's going to be a big slowdown, not only in housing turnover, but with house prices falling while construction costs are rising, it's an incredibly difficult economic pinch point for the construction sector and for developers.
39:52So we will see housing construction, that part of the economy, and consumer spending being hit again after three rate hikes already this year, and some tax changes from the government that have dented confidence. This part of the economy will be weakening and weakening further through the remainder of 2026 and into 2027, as the RBA does what it feels it has to do to get inflation expectations under control. It's very interesting because the day after this rate decision, we'll get the CPI data for the month of August. Do you expect that data to essentially support everything that you've said so far, where fuel prices were going to be the primary driver of retail inflation?
40:35Our view is exactly that, Doug. We see that there is going to be, from the fuel price data that we track, excellent resources there on the terminal for those that want to keep an eye on it on a day-to-day and weekly basis. and what that data on the terminal is telling us is that there is going to be a big boost to the month-on-month inflation from fuel prices. I estimate about 70 basis points in the month and that's going to see the inflation trajectory turn around in August and when we look at what we've got so far for September, it's likely to get a little bit worse still from the fuel price side of things.
41:10So that's something that's going to be supporting the RBAs, what we feel that the RBA will be doing the day before in hiking rates, that inflation story is likely to back it in. Whether it justifies the RBA moving again in November is much less certain, in my view. The risk is there that there is a further tightening in November, but it is going to be heavily data dependent on those other weak points within the economy that we just discussed, housing, consumer spending, labor market. If we do get some resolution around the Strait of Hormuz and energy prices pulling back, it could be enough to just thread the needle for the RBA to be on hold after this hike.
41:52But if there's still a major expectations challenge out there on the inflation front and those prices at the pump remaining quite elevated and causing a lot of pain, unfortunately, maybe if that's the case, the RBA might have to add some more pain in November. Wow. Not a day goes by when we're not discussing the build-out of infrastructure related to artificial intelligence. Give me a sense of what's happening with AI right now in Australia in terms of infrastructure, data centers and the like, and what the trend may or how the trend may be affected with higher interest rates. Well, the data centre investment boom is Australia has its own version of that and it's a fairly substantial one.
42:33The challenges for the data centre industry globally, we know the power challenges. And Australia does have one of the largest renewable energy resources in terms of solar and wind potential. We need something to tap it. So the AI investment boom for Australia is not just about our own domestic data centre and computing needs, But it's also about the potential for some of these global hyperscaler firms to utilise cheap Australian energy at the source as a potential way of powering the compute needs for the world. And so that means that the actual investment boom going into the economy is quite a substantial one.
43:15More than 2 % of GDP right now is what it looks like we might be moving to next year based on some of the surveyed investment intentions from firms. So that's a big part of the economy and the power and downstream investment that's required to feed into those centres is another piece of the story there. Now, in terms of whether this build-out and this investment in infrastructure in Australia is going to be impacted by interest rates, I think that there's likely to be very little denting of the sides. on the terminal again there's some excellent data around the rental prices for some of the CPUs and the chips coming from the silicon data information on the terminal and that's showing you that those rental rates on a per hour basis for the chips remain elevated the demand is still there for the for the compute and that's that's not that's not going away and so it really is going to be a case of interest rates from a monetary policy perspective at the short end and bond yields at the high end really crushing the other sectors of the economy so that this hyperscaler boom can continue to roll through and we make way for that in terms of what is the potential growth of the economy and how much of that activity is going to be going into this sector.
44:38In the Australian case, bond yields have moved around the usual correlation at the 10-year with the US 10-year rate. And that's at a time when we've seen major issuance in Australia's fixed income markets by some of the large hyperscaler firms doing Australian bond issuances in order to fund the expansion of their facilities here. And there's more of that to come. So there's nothing at the moment from a monetary policy perspective or a rates perspective that looks like it's going to be slowing this train down. Great insights. James, it's always a pleasure. Thank you so very much. He is Bloomberg economist James McIntyre.
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Bloomberg Daybreak Weekend with Host Nathan Hager take a look at some of the stories we'll be tracking in the coming week.
- In the US – a look ahead to the September jobs report with a focus on 3 stocks for the week ahead.
- In the UK – a look ahead to UK Prime Minister Andy Burnham's plans ahead of his first conference as Labour Party leader.
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