#DamnGood Celeb Special! Kate Middleton, Selena Gomez & Pamela Anderson: The Unsponsored Holy Grail Beauty Products They Actually Use

25:04So it just gives like a little bit of color correcting at the same time. I love the UV sheer. My daughter stole it from me. My husband uses it. Call me L2MD. And he also uses, I spotted this because it was the exact same one as me, the Philips Sonicare Diamond Clean. I love it. Yeah. And I knew it was the same one as me because it's very distinctively in that little glass, which is the recharger. Right. Well, that's the old school one. Exactly. Yeah. But he's brushing his teeth with that one. I had it. So I know that's the one that Justin Bieber brushes his teeth with. But interestingly, there was one Sephora product, which is the Paula's Choice Niacinamide 20 % treatment.

25:46I'm holding it here. It's the little purple. Yeah, it's a good one. I've used it. sale is$55 US and 80 in Canada. And that was very distinctively on the vanity as well. And would have been something that probably wasn't recommended by an esthetician. So I thought that was kind of interesting. Well, the whole time you're talking, my mind just went to this era where this documentary came out, what came out. How do we know that was Justin's? Because this could have all been groundwork Haley was doing for road. Well, which launched in mid June, 2022. too. Yeah. Well, I don't think she has a 20 % concentration of niacinamide, but I will say that's what I said.

26:25Some of those products could have belonged to Haley. Yes. You know, I think Justin being coming from a proactive pedigree, if I'm not mistaken, I don't know that he would have been using that moisturizing mask from Biologique Rocher. So I do wonder if that may have been Haley's. Right. Yeah. That would make sense. Yeah. In her. Well, Then she came out with a barrier cream and her own mask and all of that. So anyhow, that's interesting. Yeah. So that was my sleuthing job. Okay. I love it.

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28:45Now I want to talk about Taylor Swift because we have to. And we did an episode back in October when the Life of a Showgirl came out and we talked about a lot of the items on Taylor's vanity that we thought she used. And at that time, it was before her documentary came out. Her documentary about the heiress tour came out in December. We did that episode in late October. So there's some updates, everybody. The biggest update is about her lip combo that she actually wore on stage. And it was quite shocking. It was the most millennial lip combo ever. Okay. Because everybody thought she used Pat McGrath for years.

29:22And she still might. Right. To a degree, but not on stage. And we saw this herself putting it on herself. So this is and we mentioned this briefly in the episode and an episode we did in February, I believe. But the lip combo was the Smashbox Be Legendary Line and Prime Lip Pencil in True Red. It's$24 US dollars and$32 in Canada. And what she used on top was the MAC Locked Kiss 24 Hour Lipstick in the shade Ruby True,$34 US dollars,$47 in Canada. And how I clocked this in her docuseries was it's white. The Smashbox lip pencil, actual pencil part is very distinctive because it is white. And she had worn it down to this.

30:11The stub. And she was putting it on herself, putting it on all over. And then she put this on top. Oops. Amazing. And I love that it's called Be Legendary as well. You know, it's like the stars are aligning. Well, and I had made the video about it that then Vogue picked up. And then I got a press kit from. I saw that. From Smashbox that said at Broken Vogue. And I said, actually, oh, I didn't see that. I got a package from them talking about, you know, just they were getting press around and sending it out to people for people to try as they should. But the little card inside said as broke in Vogue.

30:46Oh, boy. Actually, I am adjacent to this because a little backstory. I made the video as soon as I saw it. Yeah. I videoed the TV and I made the video. I think it was like right before Christmas. Yeah. And that's how Vogue picked it up. And they did give you credit. They absolutely did. Yeah. But I just thought it was a funny little full circle moment. And then I actually saw and shot myself in the back end. Yeah. That when they approached us for some gifting or mentions or whatever, they had said, as seen on Taylor Swift in the documentary. And I was like, OK. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's I mean, yeah, you run with it.

31:20You see something like that. Oh, my God. It's gold. At the time I made my video, I said Christmas came early. The Smashbox. And we love the brand. And I'll be interested. I mean, when this episode comes out, I'm pretty sure by now it might be Mrs. Travis Kelsey. Will she wear this on her wedding day? We don't know. That would be pretty iconic to wear red lips on your wedding day. I don't think she will. I don't think she will. Isn't there some kind of a betting app we can use? Jackson, Polly Market is calling us. I joke I joke I I predict I predict not betting up prediction I predict that she will wear pink for once no she'll probably wear neutral it is true but I just think this is great and I thought one thing Smashbox said about it was that their lip liner lasts through 40 songs or more which is because like how she how many she did on the tour so I needed to give that little update and it does really last.

32:22Yeah. So that is really the best endorsement is when you see celebrities using products as opposed to even just on the vanity where there's still a bit of a guessing game. Like we said, is it Justin? Is it Haley's? When they're actually using it, especially in the wild, that tells you that they actually use it because there are, of course, the Vogue videos where they're in the bathroom. But those are so easily you could have like snuck in paid endorsements that are not disclosed. So I didn't look at any of those Vogue videos for any reporting. However, it is pretty well known that Kate Middleton was spotted in the wild using the Clarins Lip Perfector.

33:05Yeah. Lip gloss in the shade 01, very distinctive color. So that's how it was spotted in the UK. She used it back in 2019 at Wimbledon. But I have no doubt because of the, you know like fervor around what these what the royals use that people are still probably buying it based on seeing that in 2019 of course you can't believe they still make that that seems so old school i know applicator and stuff but it's honestly just so it kind of looks like a juicy tube like a juicy tube where the tip where it's just like you squeeze it it's got this little spongy tip. And then this is a very neutral peachy pink that you would imagine on Kate Middleton.

33:50So the thing about the royals is that they are not allowed to endorse anything. I forget what the decree is. I think even being gifted things is severely frowned upon. Yeah. Yeah. Working members of the British royal family are prohibited from endorsing, promoting or advertising any products. And I think that's why people are so interested, because that's why when you spot this, it's like, you know, she bought it. She, you know, she bought it. She used it. Let's talk about her. It's like the J brand jeans, the Smythe blazer and the LK Bennett pumps. Yeah, it was all it was all unmistakable. But she never once ever told anybody what it was.

34:29But you can just do some simple deductions. Right. And now we know. Well, I'm pretty sure that there are blogs that are 100 percent devoted to just following these people around getting the latest photos and trying to decode. And, you know, and of course, now we have affiliate links. So these people are like, I'm pretty sure I did find one of those websites. It's so janky, but you know that people are like swearing by it. And so anyway, it reminded me of Kate Middleton's wedding day, which we talked about with Bobbi Brown and how she used Bobbi Brown products. And that was confirmed. Bobbi Brown herself did not do the makeup.

35:04It was Hannah Martin. But that was a big reveal from Bobby's book because up until then, they neither confirmed nor denied that Kate did her own makeup. And in fact, now we know she did not. Correct. Hannah Martin did it. And it's one of our more viral videos, actually. Yeah. At the time, and this is just a sign of the time, she was like, well, it wasn't the thing to do to announce that Bobby Brown was used for makeup. You know, it was that whole idea that you wanted to be subtle, not subtle, I guess. Yeah. You don't want to be discreet. Discreet. You're respecting the privacy. Exactly. Exactly.

35:40So my times have changed. Absolutely. And now we know people's plastic surgeons names. Anyway. And what exact type of breast enhancement they had put in. I love when we do get to talk to real celebs on our show and we had Lily Reinhart on. And if you guys are listening and you have not listened to that episode, I highly recommend that you do because she really impressed me. I didn't really know that much about her before we researched her and talked to her. But by the way, her products, the Personal Day, it's her version of the road glazing milk. Right. I freaking love it. Oh, do you? I almost finished it.

36:15Oh, nice. So because the road glazing milk for my skin, it's like a little too rich. Okay. For the summer, I've been using the Personal Day one. And it's a squeeze. Yeah. So it's easier to put on. It's not like the dump in your hand. Yeah. You can squeeze it in control. like the packaging is good. Does it have an exfoliation factor in it? No, it's just strictly hydration. I love the strictly hydration ones. You need to get your daughter on that one, actually. Okay. Yeah. I will. Yeah. Well, the whole thing with Personal Day, which is Lily Reinhardt's skincare line, is that number one, it cannot be irritating for acne.

36:47Yeah. So you are in the clear. And honestly, that is a relief when you do break out and somebody explicitly says you will be good. Yeah. And she works with derms and all that. But we needed to ask her about her makeup because she famously does her own makeup for a lot of occasions. In fact, she did a whole get ready with me video and did her own makeup for that BTS video she was in, like the K-pop band. Oh, yeah. She did her own makeup. Oh, cool. So when she was on our show, I said to her, I really like your eye makeup. And she was like, oh, it's it's makeup by Mario. And I Mario. And I said, oh, is it the ethereal palette?

37:23She's like, no, I can't wear any sparkles. It's the it's the matte. Yeah. So we now know that she legit wears these. And my I have the original right here, which is the Mastermat's neutral palette. And then I also have the cool ones, which is very like 90s. Yeah. I love both of them. They're really soft, very blendable, not super pigmented. So they blend very, very well. Yeah. And for novices like myself. And I think they are and there's 12. No. Yeah. There's 12 shades in each. They're 56 US dollars, 84 in Canada. And Lily said, I developed a sensitivity to sparkles in the last few years. So this is one that I love.

38:06I just tell you that I have the cool one in my hotel room right now. I brought it on this trip. So I actually use it too. And I forgot to bring a brow product. So in a pinch, I used this gray on my brows today. Fantastic. So speaking of DIY, there is another celebrity who it's pretty well known is DIY on her hair color. And that's Pamela Anderson. Did you know that? I did know that. I also made a video about that. Okay. And it went a bit viral. This was a few years ago. Yeah. I love that. I don't know if this was on purpose, but you picked all Canadian celebrities. Oh, that was not on purpose, but I am feeling proud.

38:43The month of July. Yes. Yes. Yeah. So Pamela Anderson's documentary came out in 2023. Pamela, a love story. I loved that one. That was a good one. It was so good. Yeah. I loved the relationship between her and her sons. Yes. I really had almost like an epiphany about her after I watched it, which is I really feel like she's the modern day Marilyn Monroe in a way. The like persona that she created for herself. herself she's a hippie at heart though but there's just so many parallels in terms of like her voice and how anyway that's another story but spotted in the documentary very clearly first of all she talks about how her mom taught her yeah how to dye her own hair and so she always does it out of a box and there's a very uh there's two scenes in the documentary that show her with hair color and this is what makes it questionable to me on whether there was a paid product placement.

39:45So in the beginning of the documentary, she where she's talking about how she learned how to do it from her mom, she and her mom are in Vancouver. They're in the pickup truck and they stop at a they go to shoppers drug bar. Yeah. And she goes in, which is like a CVS. And she reaches for a box of hair color. L 'Oreal Preference. This is it here. It's the L 'Oreal Preference. And she says something, something Scandinav blonde, right? Scandinavian blonde. Obviously, she's rocking this white blonde. And then she buys it and she leaves. Okay. So I reach out to the PR and I'm like, oh, you know, can you confirm that it was this hair color in Scandinavian blonde?

40:35And they say, well, actually, we represent Garnier as well. And at the end of the documentary, you see the Garnier that she uses because she only uses vegan and cruelty free. So I watched the documentary till the end. And there's a very clear shot, not blurry like this one where I had to put my detective hat on of the Garnier Nutrice Ultra Color PL1, which the PR is able to, you know, they say this is most likely what she used. They don't say that she did or not. I see. And it's like, it's such a perfect picture that I was like, that actually looks like a product placement. Yeah. So I went back to the PR and I said, can you confirm whether either of these were product placement, paid product placement or not?

41:23And they said, unfortunately, we can't because that would be the USPR that might know about that. I see. I see. And so they could not confirm. But they did say Pamela Anderson only uses vegan and cruelty free products. OK. Therefore, it would have been the Garnier. So it's a bit of a question mark. So I went back and I said, well, isn't L 'Oreal in fact cruelty free? and vegan. And they said cruelty-free, but not vegan. So I don't know, guys, one of them was clearly a constructed scene and it could have been the L 'Oreal preference because this happens when you're making documentaries, right? They're like the photographer, the videographer, they're like, okay, now we want you to talk about this.

42:14So go ahead and reach up and grab that and then just go and pay for it. And like, this is sort of the scene in the documentary where you're going to talk about hair color. And so does she actually use the L 'Oreal? Like, or does she use both? What I'm going to say is we need her on the show to confirm or deny. Absolutely. And she's been on a hair color journey. She went red last year. Yep. You know, so what was that? I'd like to know. She also works now with Biola. So what is she using? Yeah, exactly. Come talk. Come talk to us. Yeah. She's a dream guest for me. Definitely putting this in the stars for the ball.

42:49Yes. 100%. Okay. Do you have anything else, Jill? Well, you mentioned the Vogue videos, the Get Unready With Me, Get Ready With Me. I agree with you. I don't really use those as a direct source. However, the Vogue videos they do of What's In My Bag, I think that those are more legit because they're more on the spot. And Bella Hadid actually did one of those and she recommended the You Beauty. Now, this is definitely a brand that seeds celebrities a lot. It's called the You Beauty, the Super Hydrator Face Moisturizer. It's$168 US dollars,$229 in Canada. And she said in her Vogue in the bag video, Bella Hadid said she pulled this product out of her YSL bag.

43:36And she said, if anybody wants like the perfect moisturizer for the morning, this makes your skin out of control. You don't even need to put makeup on after it. And then they have a similar product to this that Jennifer Aniston likes, the tinted version, which is like a no makeup makeup idea. Now, this product has shea butter in it, so I can't really use it as someone who... You can pass it right over here. Yeah. But You Beauty has tons of products that I've fallen in love with. That Bio Barrier Mist, love that. I also love the Plasma Lip Compound, even though it's so pricey. Yeah. It's very good.

44:12Oh, yeah. My friends asked me for that. Right? I would love to try the tinted version. I will say that. I have that coming in and there's 11 shades of the tinted version. And to me, that tracks totally that Jennifer Aniston would be a fan of that product. So I wanted to shout them out because YouBeauty is very interesting to me. A couple months ago, Puck did a whole roundup of the top 10 products being bought right now in beauty. And they had at least two. that is wild yeah it is in skincare they're not even in sephora yeah so their entire strategy is to stay out of sephora yeah so the other products in there were like in beauty project the extreme cream things we hear about a lot the resurfacing compound was the one that i really like that's better for like exfoliation and the reality is that tina chen she has insane skin yeah you know she's like a good face for, you know, she's not, she's walking the walk.

45:12She's walking the walk with her skincare. Yeah. All right. Well, our last ones of the hour, I don't have them here, but we were talking about Royals. Meghan Markle, if you follow everything that she does, ex-royal, I guess you'd call it, you know that she had With Love, Meghan, the - Certainly do. The show. Yeah. I know you were a big fan, Jill. It's my, what did I call it? Not comfort viewing. I had a word, I had a funny term for it. Yeah, it was so good. Comfort. Oh, my gosh. Comfort creator, something like that. She was a comfort creator. Anyway, as she was doing many things with her hands, apparently her nail color was getting a lot of attention.

45:51And so she took it upon herself to share with the good people what she was wearing on her nails, along with an affiliate link. and it is the CND shellac in satin slippers and CND shellac in romantique. They were layered and she posted this on her Instagram. A little tea. I knew that because I knew the girl who did her nails. Really? I was never able to say, but that is 100 % true. Okay. So I'm going to finish off with what I like to call the Swiss Army Knife of Beauty Products. This is the Elizabeth Arden 8-Hour Cream Skin Protectant And we've had countless celebrities talk about how much they love this.

46:32Reese Witherspoon and Victoria Beckham is like one of the biggest proponents of this. Pat McGrath as well. Yeah. Makeup artist. Yeah. One is sold every 30 seconds around the world. And you can use it on cuticles. That's what I love to use it for. You can use it for a little glass skin glow, rough heels, put on your face. It is amazing. and it was created in 1930. Yeah. So almost 100 years of people loving this product. So standing the test of time and nobody can forget in Prince Harry's memoir, speaking of the royals, he talked about how his mother loved this. That's how he knew about it. And he had to use this.

47:14Princess Di. Do you remember why? And from the book? No. He had to use this on a frostbitten nether region. No way. And he name checked it. Wow. So we know for sure that it is royal approved. Speaking of Harry and Meghan. Wow. And so this one is lightly scented to me. That is so iconic. I agree. I agree. And little fun fact, Jill, that was one of the products that inspired Cassette La Pomade. Oh, fantastic. My retinoid ointment. Yeah, as you should. You want your product will be around in what's 100 years from now? 20? I can't do math. In 2037? No, 2137? Something like that. Will some people still be talking about your Kiss Hat Beauty on a podcast in 2137?

48:02I sure hope so. But it was the time that I slugged with it and I loved the results. And so that sent me down this whole road of the idea of slugging and slugging with active ingredients and barrier support. So I'm a huge fan of that product as well. Well, I think this was really fun. I agree. And if you guys have any comments or if you have other celebrity approved products that you have in your routine that you love, I know we just touched the tip of the iceberg here. We didn't even really talk about Rihanna or fragrance and like all that. There's so many celebs that are out there talking about what they love.

48:41But less and less. Yes, absolutely. The more they own their own stuff, why would they talk about anything else? Absolutely. Unless it is pay to play kind of thing. But they can always come on our show. Open invitation. Talk about whatever you like. Maybe we need to be like a de moi. Is that what it's called? Where people, if you see a picture of somebody spotted in the wild, send it to us. And we'll do a little, you know, we'll do a follow up. It's really fun. There's a couple of beauty journalists in the UK that do videos that are the hashtag unsponsored products spotted in the background of the Kardashian show.

49:15Oh, yeah. And that's always fascinating to me because sometimes they go to great lengths. They will. It's clearly L 'Oreal Elnett, but they will tape it up. Yeah. They don't want to give anything away for free. Oh, yeah. Right. I was from our fashion magazine days. They used to always actually backstage. It was backstage when I'd be reporting at New York Fashion Week or Paris or what have you. And they were there courtesy of a brand. Usually it was NARS or MAC. Yeah. And then anything that was not that brand was black duct tape. Right. You know, they'd be using it, but it had to be taped. Yeah.

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