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26:24Of course, She was the founder of Helena Rubenstein, and that made her one of the world's richest women. She was the eldest of eight daughters. That brand is still around, Helena Rubenstein. We don't know a lot about it because it's not in North America, but it is in Europe. And in fact, just in July of this year, they signed Adriana Lima as the face. I've been to the counter at Gallery Lafayette. Oh, yeah. Because it's, you know, there's that whole musical, too, that's like Elena Rubenstein and Elizabeth Arden. They were rivals coming at her. And they really like spurred each other on and stuff.

27:02There's so many examples of like eldest daughters doing the most. All right. Next song on the lineup, Ruin the Friendship. Yeah. This one made me tear up. Yeah. A lot of people were speculating initially that this song was going to be about Blake Lively. Taylor loves to do this. Yeah, because the headlines were going that are they on again? Are they off again? Yeah. But it very became very clear that this was not about a female at all. Right. And we will talk about Blake Lively a little bit later with another song. Yes. But this song is actually about obviously a past lover who was a friend and ruining the friendship as in like, shall we make out?

27:42Shall we take this step, take this chance and potentially ruin the friendship? Would it be worth it? is the gist of the song. Am I right? Yeah. I mean, I think it kind of samples a bit from her folklore era where she made up songs. And I don't think that this is necessarily about a Taylor specific scenario, but it's about looking back on your life and not having taken a chance on something that maybe you thought there's something there, but I don't want to ruin the friendship in life though. So maybe it's metaphorical. Okay. Well, it's, uh, you guys can weigh in on, in our Facebook chat room and on Instagram.

28:22I did think of a product for it though. What I always find funny about Taylor and Travis when they're out to dinner and they have been paparazzi so many times, every time they are out to dinner, they're snogging, they're making out. And I think the Ruin the Friendship song reminded me of her like signature lipstick, which is NARS Morocco. It's one of their original 12 lipsticks that NARS ever came out with. It's like an orange matte cinnamon, warm cinnamon color. She wears it all the time. She wore it on New Heights to talk about her, her album, dropping this album. She wears it on the red carpet.

28:56She wears it. She loves it. And so I just picture ruin the friendship. If you do go for it, you're going to not hold back and you're going to be smudging your lipstick. And I feel like she, Travis always has her foundation all over his nose and her lipstick is always messed up. Oh, that's so funny. But I would say if I had to guess, she would probably say that he's her best friend now. Oh, she said that. She just said that on the BBC radio this morning. Exactly. So maybe I feel like as somebody, when you get married, it's like you don't know what's going to happen, but you just take the step. Right.

29:36You know, so I wonder if it's about that. But I just want to say, I think we need to give some original credit. Yeah. Demi Lovato had a song called Ruin the Friendship. OK. It was from her 2017 album. Tell me you love me. Right. And the lyrics are pretty obvious. They she talks about a strong attraction and the idea of taking a risk, even if it might ruin the friendship. When it came out, a lot of speculation online was that it was inspired by Demi's longtime friendship with Nick Jonas. And so I just thought it was kind of crazy that there's a song literally with the same name, not that long ago.

30:19And really, it's literally about the same concept, the same idea of taking that friendship one step further. So, so right. I don't know if anybody else is going to call, call out this parallel, but I saw it. I will just say as a side, love Demi, that she's doing so well. There was a point there where I was quite concerned about her, but she seems really happy. Yes. And she's taking a piss out of herself on it, the internet, which I always think is fun and good to do. And she's, she's back. So yeah, I hadn't heard that song, but I will take a listen to it for sure. I literally wondered if it was a cover or a collab.

30:56Like I had no, it's, it's kind of weird. Yeah. Anyway, next song. This is a spicy one, actually romantic. Yes. And spicy in the sense it's a little, it's dramatic romantic. Yeah. There's drama here. There's beef. There's beef. Yes. Tell us about that. Okay. So in short, when Charlie XCX came out with Brat era, defining her in her own way, Brat in summer of 2024, for I'm obsessed with that album. She has this song and she talks about her insecurities in being in the same room as someone as big as Taylor Swift. She doesn't come out right and name her, but she does talk about that. And I just love that album.

31:39Everything about Brad is so frigging iconic. And she's talking about such deep things and just puts them in these, like a set you would hear at the boiler room or whatever. So Taylor has done a rebuttal with this song called Actually Romantic. And she's basically saying, oh, isn't it cute? Like you wrote a diss track about me and I had no idea we had beef. That's the idea. And she, I'm not like, I think the song is good. It kind of gives me like teenage dirtbag Weezer vibes. Yeah. But I didn't love that she went there. I just feel like right now Taylor's on top of the world. Why does she need to punch down?

32:21But what's your take? Yeah, no, I agree with you. And I thought it was interesting because when I listened to that song that we talked about before, Eldest Daughter, I think it was. And you're listening to the lyrics of that one. She talks about she says something to the effect of like, I'm not a bully. I'm not savage like that. But kind of the kind of thing where she's like, I'm just a softy, but like, I'm going to keep going, guys, for you. But then this song is like, wait a minute. This is pretty savage. Well, I actually was thinking while I was getting ready this morning, maybe it's not so coincidental that she dropped this album on Mean Girls Day on October 3rd.

33:03What's Mean Girls Day? Well, Mean Girls, you know, in the movie Mean Girls. Oh, right. And she turned and he asked me what the date was. I said October 3rd. I actually think diabolically Taylor might have done that on purpose and she does shit like that. Oh my gosh. Yeah. So I just was like, did you need to go there with Charlie? Now, Charlie has said lots of shit about Taylor off, not on her album and stuff too, but like they have beef because Charlie is married to George, who's in the 1975 and that's the lead singer was Maddie Healy, which obviously Taylor was involved with yada yada. So there there's personal stuff there.

33:41So she that's that's kind of I think where why it goes a little bit why it goes there. But I don't think she needed to go there. Yeah. No, I agree. Anyway, I guess it's a way of taking the high road in a sense where it's like if somebody is dissing you, you can actually take it as a compliment. They're spending their energy on you is what actually romantic is about when you listen to the lyrics. It's like, oh, I didn't know that you cared about me so much that you would spend the time writing a song about. It's like I live rent free in your head. Yeah, exactly right exactly to borrow a term um anyway we talked about the fact that taylor doesn't have a beauty line and she doesn't do campaigns all of that charlie xcx does though she is currently a brand ambassador for valentino beauty uh this fall she is the face of valentino beauty puffer gloss it is a multifunctional lip product that acts as a gloss plumper and oil yeah and uh She highlighted this product during her performance at Coachella in April 2025, where she showcased the gloss in the shade In My Glowing Era.

34:49Okay. Interesting. Yeah. Over Valentino's Spike Buttery Matte Lipstick. So there you go. There you go. Factoid on Factoid.

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36:55Now, next song, Wishlist. My most hated of the... Oh, interesting. So it sounds like this song and it's spelled wish like W-I dollar sign H-L-I dollar sign T. So it sounds like she's just kind of taken the piss and she's like she's grown up now. So it's like let all the other youngsters go and do get that bag, whether they're like the face of a campaign or they're just, you know, doing every single thing to to get that money and that fame. where now what she's getting ready for, what she really wants is a basketball hoop and a driveway and two kids, she says, and all of the things. So I have a gift idea for what I'd be gifting to Taylor Swift for her new era.

37:47It is the Fortuna Skin Beneath the Olive Tree Holiday Kit. It's$265 US with a$380 value. And you know what's cool about this holiday gift set, Jill? is that it has Fortuna Skin, which I love. I love their oil. Everything's made at like an olive farm in Italy for real that they own. So it includes the bi-phase moisturizing oil that I love and artisanal bar soap, but also some of their food products that's grown on the farm as well. So their olive oil, the LX-R06, you know, she can put that with a little bit of bread and feed it to Travis. And also black bee honey in there and olive leaf botanical tea.

38:34So this is a kit that has beauty products and food and home products. Each product is crafted from their botanicals grown on Fortuna's organic farm that's dedicated to protecting the land, preserving farm workers' jobs and safeguarding rare species of plants and animals like the bees. I just don't know that she cares that much. Well, she may not. But for our listeners who care, Yeah. It's not all just marketing. We do know that Taylor Swift, by the way, uses Tracy Martin's facial products. Oh. The Amla Purifying Cleanser and apparently the Tracy Martin Lotus Sculpt iPads. At least she did in 2014 when she sent out this like curated, kind of like a curated box of her beauty favorites with handwritten notes to certain fans.

39:18They're designed to moisturize, calm, and diminish the appearance of lines and wrinkles around the eyes. Okay. So she did a gift to fans And that was what she what she used at that time. OK, next song would. What are we saying? Oh, my God. This song, I was like. My hand was over my mouth, like when you hear the first time your jaw just drops, it is. I think I missed something because I didn't have that reaction. So you tell me what I have. This is her horniest song she's ever written. What? Yes, girl. Okay. We were listening to like two different versions, I swear. Okay. So this song, Taylor says, she said, when she did a little press junket, some of the things have leaked.

40:06She talked about this on iHeartRadio. She sort of like queued up every song and they like played it at midnight or whatever. And she said, this song is about superstitions, like, you know, knocking on wood or when like a black cat runs in your path. It's about superstitions and, you know, knocking on wood. And then she's like, and, you know, it's just like a really in-depth love song is what she said and just left it there. And I think she's probably today maniacally laughing at how everybody is reacting to it online because I need to pull up the lyrics before I. OK, I took it at face value. OK, what did you think?

40:41No, I thought it was about the about these superstitions. And basically what she says in the song is, girls, I don't need superstition anymore. I have the I have the lock. I have the guy. Right. I don't need to like keep your don't throw your bouquet at me because I already have the rock coming. That was that's what she said. People online have been saying she's hypnotized by him. And like in her previous album, she talked about how no one's ever had me. Not quite like not quite like you. And she's had all these innuendos. And here she is literally hitting us over the head with like, you guys don't even understand what I've got.

41:19going on here. So the chorus goes, forgive me. It sounds cocky. He ah-matized me and opened my eyes. Redwood tree, it ain't hard to see. His love was the key that opened my thighs. Girls, I don't need to catch the bouquet. To know a hard rock is on the way. And baby, I'll admit I've been a little superstitious. The curse on me was broken by your magic wand. Seems to be that you and me, we make our own luck. New Heights, New Heights of manhood. I ain't got a knock on wood. New Heights is his podcast name. He's taking her to New Heights of manhood. Anyways, it is. Wow. I feel enlightened. And the fact that she put he ah-matized me when online everybody's saying she's dick-matized.

42:11She's like in a trance. Wow. Right. Okay. Well, that that was genius. You see, my appreciation is growing. Now, when we think about beauty and wood, we think about fragrance. Do we? I do. I think about woody fragrances. Okay. That is not what I'm thinking about after this song. Well, I mean, in the beauty, in the realm of beauty, and I'll tell you who is coming in with some big D energy in the beauty space and it's Melanie Bender with Lore. Okay. Okay. Lore Fragrance came out just a few weeks ago. And it is, you know, she basically says on her Instagram, like people really, so Melanie Bender for background, she's been on our show.

42:52Yeah. And she was the CEO of Road Beauty with Kelly Bieber. Short live, but yes. And they were on our show. She was with Versed Skincare. She was there from the beginning with versed and helped to kind of grow that and scale that. And so Melanie Bender came out on our Instagram and basically in so many words said, people never thought that I had the main character energy. And like, this is me now, like I'm going for it. She's all in on the branding. It's all about storytelling and creating this whole world. It's very poetic. I would say Taylor Swift would appreciate perhaps. Okay. The fragrance I'm wearing today is Lore Somewhere But Nowhere Eau de Parfum,$88 US, not available in Canada yet, exclusive to Sephora.

43:40Melanie herself sent me this sample with a personal note before it launched. I feel very privileged. She also did it just by the way, guys, with the two founders of Youth to the People Skin Care, industry veterans coming up with this concept. And they just, if they do that, it's just like the playbook. They know it. They just go and knock right on Sephora's door and say, we're here. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. But it's a lore world. She's creating a world around it. It's very like sexy, youthful, travelly, very into it. So are you wearing it today? I am. This is why I said you're completely opposite.

44:17Your white diamonds completely wiped out my lore fragrance. So the fragrance is earthy and woody. It's a warm woods is the scent type. The keynotes are cedar wood, not morning wood, Jill, get your head out of the gutter, cedar wood, vanilla cream, and cardamom. And people are saying that it is kind of a dupe for Centel 33. Now I'm getting it a bit more. Now it's got a similar structure, the wood, it's got leather and creamy notes, but it also has black tea, cardamom, and a slightly different spice profile. So I agree with you. I think it has a little bit more of that like green quality to it. Yeah, like the cedar.

44:58I don't know. It's not the cedar wood. It's like the cedar needles or whatever. Yeah, it's a little bit different, I think. But just to put it in perspective, this is kind of genius. Le Labo Santel 33, which is iconic at this point. It's 240 US dollars. Yeah. For a bottle. Well, that's what like Byrito is. Absolutely. But I think she's quite genius because she's positioning Laura to be in this universe of Byredo and all of that. Like she even has some setups in her Instagram with different fragrances. And like Laura is right up there with those big guns in the photograph. But it's only$88. Okay, great.

45:43For basically the same size. So I think she's coming for these bigger kind of indie, they're hand designed from glass and aluminum. It says, our bottle is inspired by the experimental work of Parisian glassmaker Andre Tourette from 1918. He passed away in 1965. And they're also refillable, which I love. I think fragrance should be refillable. That's what we should be doing. okay well it's it's definitely a moment yes and uh congrats to melanie i think it's wonderful i think especially for the money it's wonderful so let's move on to the next song because we're running out of time yeah canceled uh this one's juicy yes okay go off she says she just says it all basically you know the blake lively of it all the you know everybody was speculating that ruined the friendship was about Blake Lively.

46:41Well, Taylor is saying in this song canceled with her whole chest, she's standing with Blake Lively. She rides, she's dying with her. She's just basically saying, I've been in that dark place. I've been canceled before they really even had a name for it. And I'm not going to turn my back on my friends. And I know what the real truth is. And basically I'm sure Taylor could, can't, she's never issued a public statement. She's never even really been seen with Blake. Probably doesn't want to like fan the flames. But again, she's speaking through her art. Yeah. And she's making it known, ten toes down, that she's on Blake's team.

47:16That's right. Yeah. That's right. What did she actually say? She says, I like my friends layered in Gucci and controversy or something. Just one sec. Scandal. Gucci and scandal. Yeah. Love that. Makes things spicy. Now, on the tip of Blake Lively, I think there's been quite a bit of speculation about her hair care brand because a lot of people really felt that it was kind of not the most authentic thing in the world. Interestingly, though, I was listening to the Beauty Brains podcast the other day. Didn't even know they were still around. They're still putting out episodes. Oh my God, wow. And Valerie George had an astute insight because of course they're cosmetic chemists, so totally different take than us.

48:01And what she had said was that Blake Lively's products were actually legitimately very good, very well formulated for the price. She was very impressed that for the money, she was like, I think they're excellent products. And the fan favorite, just so people know, is the Milky Sandalwood. It's called Blake Brown, by the way. Yeah. Milky Sandalwood Rich Reset Pre-Shampoo Mask. It's$25 US. It's a pre-shampoo mask that is commonly described as being very effective for restoring softness, smoothing and reducing tangles. Yeah, I think that this song is going to help Blake Lively's career, not career, but Blake Lively's product line to surge again because she couldn't even be out here promoting it whatsoever because she started promoting it tied to the movie.

48:52Right. Lesson, hard lesson learned. That's right. The hair in the campaign was what I thought was really bad. Do you remember it? It was like she was basically saying the whole premise was like, we don't need conditioner. Do you remember that? Yeah. So there's no conditioners in the line. Yes. It's all hair masks. It's shampoos and hair masks. But it was like girlfriend, girlfriend could have used a conditioner. Speaking of someone who doesn't use a lot of conditioner, but in the in the in the campaign. Anyway, so my pick for that just very quickly with Canceled is a ride or die mascara that Taylor, I've seen her use time and time again.

49:32She has been using it for, I'd say, a better part of a decade now, is the Too Faced Better Than Sex Mascara. And she's put it on. I've seen her in images putting it on, whatnot, and she reaches for it time and again. And it's still a great mascara that is not talked about a lot. But I think it's very telling that she goes back to a classic. And how does it tie into Canceled? Because it's called Two-Faced? Well, I'm just saying that her rider, Dynas, doesn't only extend to friendships. And Two-Faced has been canceled. It had a moment. So I think she's quite loyal in whether that's her mascara or to her friends.

50:10Okay. I love that. All right. Next song is Honey. Didn't like this one. Ah. Upon first listen. Okay. But maybe it'll grow on me. Again, I need to get in a car and the windows need to be down. I think that this was a love letter to Travis. She basically says that she used to be called honey in the past and she hated it. You know how it's very divisive. Condescending. When people say, listen, honey. Yeah. And so she didn't like that. But now the way Travis says honey, she loves it and it's comforting and the meaning has completely changed. Yeah, she says, if anyone called me honey, it was standing in the bathroom, white teeth, and they were saying that the skirt don't fit me and I cried the whole way home.

50:53But you touched my face, redefined all those blues when you say honey. That's right. Now in the world of honey. Did you know it's the only thing that never expires? I learned that on a Jeopardy, Final Jeopardy. Oh my gosh, I did not. It's not interesting. It is interesting. So if any of you people are doomsdayers out there, fill your cellar. Yeah. You know what? We've had this conversation in the past. I'm a big fan of honey. I love that it's a natural product, but it actually has clinicals around it. Like it has been used in hospitals. It is very healing and you can ethically source honey while protecting the bees.

51:28So it's not like your, you know, bees are being harmed in this process. So anti-inflammatory. First thing I do is like in the winter, I just start taking Manuka honey. Anyway, go ahead. Exactly. So So Guerlain, they're all about saving the bees. And they created something that's quite novel. It's called the Guerlain Abel. It's that A-B-E-I-L-A-B. I think it's called. Abai. I think you pronounce it. Royal Bee Lab Shot. Okay. This is very unique. This launched in August. It's$60 US,$79 in Canada. It's very, it's basically a very extravagant skincare treatment. And it's a seven-day shock treatment, they say.

52:09Okay. So each day for seven days, you take one of these. Okay, I'm holding it here. Here is the Guerlain eShot. So what you do is you take this little tube. It looks like a tester tube from the lab. And there's these little balls in here, Jill. Ooh. Here, get ready to slather your arms. No, they're not. It kind of reminds me of a cotton candy texture. That's right. Okay, bring your hand over here. Sorry, I started messing it up already. No, no, come over here. Come, come. So what you do is you drop 10 drops. two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. Of this other product. It feels expensive.

52:45Which is the Youth Watery Oil Serum. Oh, yeah. That friggin' product is amazing. I was going to say, we love this product. So you blend them together. They're sold separately. And it makes that little ball, the cotton candy ball, just melt. Absolutely melt. So what I think that this is, is almost like, you know, powders, like how vitamin C powder. Yeah. They would, to keep it stable, they would have powders that you could buy and then you would mix it, right? They didn't really go that far. People didn't really love this idea, but that's basically what this is. So what it's comprised of is black bee honey from Norway, and it's formulated with 20 % vitamin CG in spheres crystallized at minus 40 degrees Celsius.

53:31Designed to melt perfectly under 10 drops of youth watery oil serum, Bee Lab Shot embodies Abbey Royale Sciences' cutting edge innovation. It has a patent around it. It's been tested on like over 100 women and they all say that they feel like their skin is fresher, brighter and wrinkles are filled in after after seven days. So I've only used it like three times experience, but it does feel really fresh and lovely. We know vitamin C is good. I think it's like that powder idea. So it's a way of keeping that concentration and not having it go off, but in a much more elegant 2025 format. It's kind of like a ritual.

54:13Yeah. Yeah. So that's what I have to say about Honey, which brings us to the last song, The Life of a Showgirl. Yes. So this is really about her, I think, bidding adieu to this, the Aeros tour, certainly, and this notion of Taylor as the show girl in a lot of the imagery leading up to the release of this album, there was director Taylor, Taylor the real person, and then her directing the showgirl. Come on, baby, get into it. And there's literally one thing where she's trying to like hold this poster up and the showgirl version of Taylor kicks over a bucket, like literally kicking the bucket. Yeah, yeah.

54:57So I think this is kind of like her bidding adieu to this era. and who better to accompany her on that journey and maybe pass the torch a bit than the ultimate showgirl right now, which is Sabrina Carpenter. And there's a lyric, I don't remember if it's in this particular song or another one on this album, but she's basically talking about how the industry is like waiting for her to die. And she's like, f*** you, I'm immortal now. My picture's on the wall. So she's just like, my work here is done. I, again, I own this industry now and I will write off and do my next thing when I feel like it. Anyway, my pick for the showgirl look and how you can easily become a showgirl yourself without the Bob Mackie connection is the Fazit makeup patches.

55:42So F-A-Z-I-T. And they actually came - Or F-A-Z-A if you're in Canada. Yes, exactly. So these are the temporary makeup patches, glitter freckles, which Taylor actually wore to a Chiefs game and overnight turned this sort of mom and pop indie brand into a huge sensation. That's right. blew it up. Yeah. Love those. It's so incredible. And so they've expanded since the glitter freckles and they actually came out with a whole life of a showgirl collection. Really? Yeah. Which is sold out right now. I tried to get the brand to send it to me and they wanted to, but there was, they just didn't have the samples.

56:17So they have show stopping speckles, which are kind of the colorway of the teal and the orange. They're glitter freckles. And then they also expanded into eye glitter patches. So for this particular, for the showgirl, they have like green, orange, and white stars that go across the eye. And then they have decollete patches now. So it's kind of coming full circle. So I love that. I love that because if you're not a makeup artist, it's so easy to do. Anyone can do it and make it super accessible. I wear these like stick on sparkles sometimes when I go out and I'm having a night or like for New Year's, stuff like that.

57:00And I love it because I wore them to the Aeros tour. Yeah, it's so great. And I want to also shout out that this brand is on Amazon. So check it out. It's Amazon Prime Day right now. We'll link to it if it is on sale, because at one point they had these on sale for$13.13. So if you're a Swifty, you know, you know, 13 is Taylor's lucky number. There's always lore. It doesn't end. There's always lower. It doesn't end. I feel like it's really great to just these are really fun and you're supporting a small business. There you go. And if you are not into glitter, let's go with Taylor's signature red lip.

57:35There is a new lipstick in town. It's the Rouge Dior on stage. It's a shine lipstick with extreme performance. Forty eight dollars U.S. and sixty five in Canada. I wore this one last night. It's called Red Shock. It's in this long cigarette like bullet with the CD logo. I think this is a new CD logo. Chic, chic. Yeah. And I think there might be shoes that have come out with the CD on it. So, of course, Peter Phillips, the creative director, came up with this. And it's all about having a really shiny lipstick that is said to last for 24 hours. I wore it last night. I wouldn't say that it lasted through my entire three-course meal, but it is a very comfortable lipstick that is probably longer wear than your typical fully pigmented high shine lipstick.

58:27And there are 10 shades from the most essential to the most daring. Amazing. Amazing. Well, this was really fun. We went through this track by track. Probably by the time this episode comes out, she will have released more tracks because that's what she does. There's Reputation Vault tracks. We know those are coming. They're probably out right now. And it's endless source of fun and inspiration to talk about Taylor. Like I said at the beginning, love her or loathe her. You can't ignore her. And I'm excited to see what like her wedding look is going to be. Well, we'll be excited for that. Who's her makeup artist that we need to follow on Instagram?

59:05Lori Turk. And by the way, yes, anything that we've talked about that I said Taylor has used herself, I have triple checked that. And it's been either confirmed by Taylor or her makeup artist. Okay, great. It's L-O-R-R-I-E, Turk. And she talked about loyalty. She always uses the same stylist, same hair person, same makeup person. Okay. So be sure to give her a follow for more Easter eggs on Taylor Swift's personal beauty routine. We hope that you guys had as much fun as we did creating today's episode. Let us know what you think if you want more of these fun out of the box themed episodes and we'll see you next week.

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