Makeup Artist Hung Vanngo Shares His Signature Eyeshadow Secrets, How-to Ace Wedding Day Glam and Are You Applying Eyeliner The Right Way?

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30:54Can I ask you, what was your big break working with Selena? Because so many people know all of your iconic looks working with her. So basically, Harry Josh also introduced me to Miranda Kerr. Oh, yeah. Who's we worked together. We all worked together for a long time. And Miranda, her managers always come on set, went for big shoots. So they always see me how I work. They met me many times. and they know the way I work. And then Selena is switching management. So she came to the same management with Miranda Kerr. Okay. So when they were looking for a new team, Selena, and that's when they introduced, he was like, I know someone for you.

31:38Right. So that's why he introduced me to Selena. Wow. That was over 12 years ago now. Was Selena like a Disney star when you guys started? Or where was she at? No, she was, she's not anymore. She started doing music already. Yeah. When was the moment it got sort of solidified where it was like you were going to be the one that she would call? I would never say. I mean, Selena worked with other people as well. You know, I work a lot with Selena. But I cannot say I'm the only one that worked with Selena because I never discredit other makeup artists. Sure, right. But she worked with other people as well.

32:08But I worked with her quite a bit. I think one thing that in this business that people should understand that it's not just your makeup anymore. It is the whole package that you sell it. So basically, you could be a wonderful makeup artist, but you're not reliable. They can't work with you. Yeah. They're not trustworthy. If they don't like your personality, they will not work with you. That's right. So it's not just the work alone. So especially when you work, you can get away that when you work on a fashion shoot because they've done the shoot, they leave. You know what I mean? But when you work with celebrity, you go on tour with them, on the press tour with them.

32:50You go on a trip with them for work and you're so close to them. You get ready for them in their hotel. So it's a very intimate environment. So they have to trust you. They have to feel your energy that's compatible with them. We need to talk about your line, your own self-titled makeup line. Congratulations. Thank you. So proud of you where you've come to. And this is a full, full collection. That's pretty much, yeah. How many pieces altogether? About 60 pieces. Yeah. Wow. One thing when I was looking through the press kit right off the hop, I noticed the eight eyeshadow palettes. And this is one thing that I've always, I always think of you in eyes.

33:35I always like you just do the most beautiful. Thank you. Eyes. They're snatched. I always thought of you that way. The color, they're snatched. I need the lifting hung. The color, the dimension, the shape, everything. So we need to get some of these tips for our listeners straight from you. I'm actually wearing your palette today. It's the orange one. and I wondered if you could walk us through the four textures. So tell us for someone who's not a professional, how do they know which texture to use when like walk us through it? So we have four different textures. So the first texture is classic satin finish, but this one a bit more, you know, is really beautiful, soft touch, it's very gorgeous.

34:21And that's easy to use. And then the second texture is the matte. So this one very velvety doesn't have a lot of fallout and the third texture we have is metallic if you want a lot of shimmer you want a little sparkles is a great texture for you and also they're somewhat creamy that it doesn't have fallout much at all. But as much as I call this collection is perfecting the basic. That's why I say. But the full texture is still, even if we say it's basic, it's still considered like a newer texture. It's more like an innovation texture. It's called 3D mattes. So it's not a cream. It's not a matte.

35:03You feel them. It's a little soft. It's like a soft touch. And it's more like a, and then you apply, it finishes like a matte texture. You can use the fingers. you the brush but it's so easy to blend like for someone this one I do is for someone who the the the way I lay out and the texture is for someone who don't know anything makeup and don't don't have to worry about fall out and even on the other palette I was trying to do like for example like black eyeshadow is the one of the hardest eyeshadow that you apply for makeup because you're going to have fall out you can mess everywhere so I purposely did those shade in the 3d texture because it just sticks to the eye.

35:42It doesn't just fall off. Oh, nice. So texture like that was great. A bit more creamy than powdery? Yeah, it feels like a cream, but it's not a cream because it's not wet like that. But it just feels like a little moist. But it's applied like a powder, but it doesn't have fallout. Yeah. So that's in the texture. And the way we laid out, even if you say orange coral, but it's still very approachable. Yeah, I'm wearing it right now. It's not intimidated that you don't want to wear them. The staying power is really great on these. I've also been using them on my hand as I experiment and play. And then I try to wash it off with certain cleansers.

36:23And I'm like, oh, it's just going to stay there for a while. It does. That's great. Yeah, we do quite long-lasting everything. They're very pigmented, right? Yeah, very pigmented. Because the thing, when I design all these products, even if you can see the neutral, this is the most popular one people like. Like this one is for... This is going to be gangbusters, I think. Yeah. Yeah. People, everyone loves this palette. But the thing is that for me is that even if I design these palettes as a makeup artist, but I always have to think a consumer as well. That's right. Yeah. I came from a hair salon background.

36:53So I understand like, I understand I want people to able to use at home and not complicated. Even I lay out the eyeshadow. They somewhat like a math for you already. So it doesn't intimidate you that you look at the shadow palette and you say, oh, I don't want to wear them. Yeah. You know, they still want to try the product, you know. Yeah, I like that they're closely related. I also like that you have a warm neutral palette rather than just a neutral palette because I enjoy warm tones on my very pink skin. So I cannot wait to try that one. So I want to ask about these two eyeliners. Eyeliner for dummies kind of thing because I think it is a little bit confusing with Cole and the longwear.

37:34Is the longwear a gel? Longwear gel. So the longwear gel liner. So basically... Like when do you use when? Tell me that. So basically the cold pencil, you have unlimited play time. Okay. So this is like for people who love to blend, love to smudge. Yeah. Cold pencil is for you. Okay. It doesn't have the same power. It still lasts you all day. Yeah. But it doesn't have you like staying power like that. So a lot of people love that. If you want to look the eye more sultry, smudgy, the cold pencil, you can use that to create a look. Right. For gel liner, you still can blend, but because it's a long wear liner, so you have about 15 to 20 seconds before it's going to set.

38:25You won't able to blend that fast, the long wear liner. So basically you do this side, you blend whatever you want. You have about 15 seconds before it's set, it doesn't move. Yeah. So a lot of people who have hooded eyes. Yeah. Or people who wear glasses like you. Yeah. Or who have oily skin. All those things, they love long wear. Right. So it's more defining. Yeah, more defining, but it's more long lasting, no smudging. You know what I mean? You can smudge, but then it doesn't match. Yeah, so you've got to go quickly. If you're going to smudge it, you go fast. But it is good for lining as well, right?

39:01Whereas a kohl is going to smudge regardless. Yes. But alcohol, even if it's cold, it still has pretty good staying power. Yeah. I purposely did that. So quite primitive. It's quite a good staying power. Can you line your water line with the gel one? Is that the one? They all safe. They fall for eye. You can do anything with the eye. Okay. Yeah. Do you remember the Marc Jacobs gel pencil? This, if you love the Marc Jacobs gel pencil, you will love this one even more. Okay. Why do you say that? Because Marc Jacobs, I used to be ambassador for Marc Jacobs. I know. And it was basically, it was their number one bestseller.

39:36And it was just conure the brand. And for me, I always loved that. I hear all the time, like people was like crazy that losing it. But for me, because like I said earlier, my collection is basically perfect in the basics. So I think to myself, I say, those are such beautiful eyeliner. The only thing that I was correcting them was I wanted to be more pigmented. And I want the playtime a little longer. And the color and the pencil is run a little bit more smoother. So that's why we achieved with this liner. So it was inspired. I will be very transparent. I was very inspired by that. So I was like, if I do that, could be an elevated version of that.

40:22Right. Yeah. Plus that one is dead and buried now. So it's fair. how do you because a lot of people see eight pans of eyeshadow and they think oh my god where do i apply what and when so can you give us like a two-step like your recipe for doing a good looking eye but that's not going to take a lot of time what the thing is that like for me the a lot of things that they have to use too many eyeshadow palette too many colors to achieve a smoky eye For me, the easiest you can use, whether a gel or a cold pencil, smudge it all over here. Just do the waterline, leave it on the bottom. Just naturally smudge and just use one color all around on the crease here.

41:04And the second color a little lighter to blend the edge out and you get a beautiful smoky eye. Right. So you don't have to go so complicated. You have to do too many steps. Right. Because that's the most really gorgeous. You don't have to do too many colors in there. you know what I mean and the way I lay out is that like the color is somewhat complement each other so even if you pick whatever color it still go without a color I'm not I didn't choose a color that it was so off right that's why I play everything in the color family palette you know because if you go if the consumer go buy palettes and all of a sudden all the neutral and there's a red color and they was like what I'm going to do with that they wouldn't know how to do that so that's why everything I would do very color coded you know what I mean yeah Yeah, because even like a makeup artist message me, she said, this is exactly how I depart all the eyeshadow and put in the palette.

41:53That's right. So you do the work for us already. Right. So it is in, you know what I mean? Like that's all. Yeah. If you get this eyeshadow palette, that's all really you need on the makeup kit, you know? Yeah. Yeah. No, I love that. Where would you say that people are going wrong when they're trying to create like a Selena eye or using a palette like this? Where are they overblending or underblending? You must be kind of studying this now that you're a brand founder. A common mistake, in my opinion, is people use the product too rough. For example, it doesn't matter my eyeshadow or any eyeshadow palette.

42:29If you hold the brush and you do like this, you screw. You're like swirling in the pan. You already got it wrong. It is because you're going to get so much product on the brush. You don't need that much. and then when you put on here, it's too much. You always spend all the time to blend it out so there's worse. That's why I have a YouTube channel. I do real time. I don't cut. I do step by step. I say every single video, you only just dab, dab a little bit and that's all the color you need and you do this and if you need more, you add more. Right. I see this all the time. Like this. And they do on the blush, on the bronzer.

43:09It's the worst because that thing is that You just do dab, dab, and you got the product, enough of the product. You don't realize that's all you need for the color. But if you do so much in here and you put in here a bit too much and you try to wipe it off and it starts falling off, and that's how they got it wrong.

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45:38We want to ask you about some holiday makeup tips because people are maybe going to start going out and having fun this holiday season. And so what do you think is a really fresh idea for holiday makeup? I would love people to play with colors a little bit. In the past few years, we really go with the neutral. And I love neutral. I love, I think it's so sexy and sultry. But people don't realize that a little color, it keeps so much life on the face. You know what I mean? And I'm sure people hear that all the time. The older we are, the more color you lose on the face. People think like, okay, I'm older now.

46:13I can't use color. I have to use neutral. I think that's the, I don't want to say it's a mistake, but that's the wrong thinking. Because the older you are, the more color you lose your face, the more color you need to build back. I've learned a lot from my clients as well. You know, like, for example, I give you an example. Like, Helena always teach me is that it doesn't matter how dark her eye, smoky eye is, the waterline should always warm brown. Because it makes her eye color better. don't look black because it closed the eye and she's right so that's why like the liner i have a warm brown liner in my line my my my line as well and then for example like julian moore who is older she always you see how she have quite a lot of pink blush and she always have a little color on the lips and she looks so beautiful and youthful those things i've learned from the client teach me as well we say you know give me some color back in there you know i mean and it makes sense people always think because i'm older i can go just like very muted here and you lose a lot of color already yeah and you don't want to make it look more dowdy that way yeah you lose you lose the definition and the color so that's that's a good tip what's your favorite product in your line that you're like you can't stop using it it's hard for me you can't pick a favorite child so it's really hard to me but i think i i think our unsung heroes from our brand would be the bronzer and the co-liner okay okay because the co-liner is makeup artist's favorites you know i mean and a lot of time like it's the easiest liner to use yeah i only have three shades for now but it's a beautiful formula like i i just love it and also the bronzer our bronzer is really nice and it's the go back and forward a lot for the present and make sure everything like not too dusty and the shade that we chose even it's only six shade in the range but it's just beautiful shade yeah now i noticed recently you did a magazine cover with benny and with selena and we've seen her maybe out on her bachelorette trip and stuff so have you ever thought about what selena's wedding makeup might be like?

48:20I don't know. Good answer. Have you ever thought of it, though, in your own vision board? I think Selena is gorgeous. Whether she wear a lot of makeup, lip makeup, she can't go wrong with that. You know what I mean? But for me, I would like people to do more in the softer side. Sometimes, like us as a makeup artist, we always do what the client before as well. At the end the client always, right? You have to do what they wish for. So it's really hard to push back. But I think I want people to, when they have their makeup, I want them to look back in 20 years, they will say, my makeup's still current or still beautiful.

49:04And sometimes the most effortless makeup is always beautiful for wedding. And another thing that people always forget, like when you go for makeup trial, you always wear an outfit of something. so you cannot judge that because on your wedding day you usually wear white right so the makeup color is you need a lot more softer than you think it is right you know i mean like you can wear a black outfit you go for fitted you do makeup so anything still look light to you yeah yeah but if you wear a white dress and the makeup so you have to think that people totally forgot that yeah you got to wear white to your trial yeah we've noticed that there's so many artist-led brands that are coming out this year it's just really booming which is great if you're an artist is there like a brand or a product you want to shout out from like one of your peers that you really love i think i think i love makeup artist right i love like mario he have great eyeshadows i think those matte palette was great yep and he have great foundation too mary just came out i mean those underpainting i think wonderful yeah i think if you are makeup lover and you want to do all different things to contour, scope thing, I think is a great, great way to play.

50:20And then the formulation is so easy to blend. So it's really nice. That's the Mary Phillips. Yeah, Mary Phillips. Gucci Westman have beautiful blush with the contour. I mean, she have great product. Violet have beautiful colors. I mean, she's great with color as well. And if you want long wear, it's great as well. It's a major French. I mean, she have beautiful. If you want more that soft, more glossy skin editorial look, she's a great person for that. Charlotte Tiberi, the legend. I mean, she have amazing products. I'm a grad, have amazing color. There's a lot of people. Yeah, everybody brings their own little touch.

50:58I think like the quality of the product that we come out is we not just come out the product for any reason. Yes, very intentional. Yeah, we intentional thing that we always dream that we want to do because we have a vision we want to do. It's not just like we have the money and do it. We don't, you know what I mean? It's just we do it because we really have something to contribute to the beauty industry. That's what we want to do. Well, I'm wearing Rare eyeshadow today. I will be putting your gel long wear liner on as well. And to be honest, if you want, my favorite blush come out in a long time.

51:32I'm not being biased at all. is the Rare Beauty blush. The new one. They have amazing liquid blush, but the new blush in the one like this, it's more like the mushy one. It has like a bounce back texture. Bouncy, yeah. Bouncy blush. Yes. They are. It's my absolutely favorite blush in the market. Really? What color? Which one specifically? I think a lot of people like Hope because it's called Hope because it's a happy and hope. Those shades really suit everyone, but they have incredible shades as well. It's very different than what you imagine. They have a lot of amazing artistry color as well.

52:09And I really love it. And a lot of, I think their Unsung Hero product to me also is their powder highlighter. Oh, really? You're surprised. I am. It's the one on the little like this. Yes. It is so good. I think it's one of their best. Yeah. It is like a big formula like this. Yes. And it was like, you just dab like this. And even if you push your hand, put moisturizer. And you put in a body too if you want. Oh, a hack. If you want it very natural, you can. And you can do really popping, you can as well. Okay. And my favorite shade is called Mesmerite. That's Selena's shade. Oh. So I always use on her.

52:47Who knows? Maybe it'll get used on a big day. Yeah, we don't know. Literally, I'm not being biased at all. Because I know the art is going to kill me. I recommend something. It's not worth it. but for me like they have amazing product but those two are my favorites yeah we will eyebrow gel is the yes there it's like it's it's if you want a strong eyebrow gel it is good their products are really good they really really are what does she steal from you now so this is what you would steal from her kit what is her favorite i don't know i have to bring my gift back to selena so she saw them already yeah but i haven't given her anything yet okay So we don't know the favorite.

53:28I didn't send to her. I want to see her. Has she worn out somewhere without her even knowing? Like, is it on a red carpet or something? Why are you doing this to me? You can't do that. We're friends now. That's a yes. But we will never know. It's all to be revealed. I'm sure. Another artist's secret. Yes. Yeah, exactly. He knows what's up. Well, Hong, congratulations on everything. This was a thrill to talk to you and we're so happy for you. Thank you. Love everything. And you can see all of the care and incredible artistry you've put into these products. So thank you so much. We think everyone's going to love them.

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