Meet the "Foot Whisperer" Who Will Make You Rethink Regular Pedicures for Good

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26:32So see you then.

26:42Okay. I want to go back to toenail health again, because a lot of people could have like white spots on their toenails or ridges or what have you do what do you do for that okay always we got to go back to the medical doctor they're going to do blood work i see it's so much that you can say so the toenail fungus that we call them it can be so many things yeah so always go to the i always tell people if you don't know i'm not gonna guess it yeah it's like a blood work you liver shows on your nails too people don't get it but your livers your zinc deficiency calcium deficiency. So many, I don't, big deal.

27:20I know. Come on, vitamin D. What are, what are a few of the things that you can name that look different and you can recognize right away? Because I've seen on TikTok, like a black line, straight line through the nail. That can be a melanoma. That's melanoma, right? No, always, but some cases can be melanoma. Depends on the, you know, the genetic or the person, some dark hyperpigmentation in Afro-American, Asians and Latino can happen on the nails and not necessarily melanoma. Yeah. But the pen who has it can be a melanoma and a white person with light eyes. I don't risk. I send them to the dermatologist and if he's touching the cuticle, if he grows from the cuticle out, there's one thing.

28:00If he grows from the end of the nail in the cuticle, yeah. And then it's another thing, but the pen how is growing and if he's touching the cuticle and the skin, I will send it to the doctor, no matter if he's Afro-American, Asian or Latino. Yeah. I tell them like, what you check? What is going to cost you? A couple hundred bucks and peace of mind for all of us. That's one of the things I learned with my training. I do internship a lot of time with podiatrics and dermatologists to see what they see that I haven't seen it because not everybody's going to come to me. So I go to them and then when I see it, I'm like, okay, that's what it can be.

28:33So wear your sunscreen, everyone. Yeah. Wear your sunscreen. Vitamin D is more important. Yes, yes. I take a lot of it and I got to get my iron going too. Are there any other supplements you recommend to people? No, you don't do that. You don't believe in it or you just think I'm not qualified. That's not me. I don't go to that department. They have some amazing people that can take care of that. I just see it and I tell them, go to the doctor, check it out. Maybe something more than just what, you know, the pretty nail or ugly nail. Maybe something related to deficiency or your liver, something that's cooking that we don't know what it is.

29:08Yeah. You want to check. I always tell them, when was last time you went for your regular checkup, annual checkup? And if they say, oh, two years ago, I'm like, no, come on. Let's go this coming month so that we peace of mind. We know that whatever is going on in your nails is not reflecting on your internal health. Yeah. It's amazing. Like Naomi, once again, shout out, who does my nails. I'm trying to, I'm doing natural nails right now. I normally always had gels on. And she was doing my nails the other day and she was just like, are you iron deficient? I was like, yeah, I am. And she's the way she can tell.

29:38And again, this is my own personal experience. You guys can see your own derms. My tell is my nails grow up. They wait versus like most nails. Shapes are like concave convex and mine were concave. Yeah, but they're waiting. So they're growing up and they only grow to a certain length because they're growing up. It's like ski jump and you then you have to get them. So I'm like, OK, because I don't I don't eat red meat, but she can tell like that. Yeah, it's fascinating. Yeah, no, it's fascinating. how much we can see. If they curve too much down, it can be your lungs or your heart. Oh, interesting.

30:12If they look like a spoon, you just got to see a doctor. Okay. If they get a little darker instead of lighter and they look like a little spoon going down, you just got to see a doctor because then your lungs, it's some... Interesting. It's all connected. Yeah, no, everybody's speaking through the nails.

30:29Marcela Correa:The nails can say so much. They can save people's life. Definitely. Yeah. Yeah. I know that you mentioned oncology earlier, and I'm sure you refer people for that. Unfortunately. I have some people in my life who are going through chemotherapy and their nails have really been affected. Just kind of coming up and, you know, there's infection and everything. Once they go see a dermatologist, is there anything that you, a medical pedicurist could help with maintenance? Absolutely. I just clean up everything that is dead. The nails become black. Like they lose their life. So I remove everything that is not attached to the nail bed so I can prepare the nail bed to get a new nail.

31:13Marcela Correa:Because when you grow your hair back, you grow your nails back. It's not a problem. The nails will grow back healthy like nothing happened. But you constantly have to keep the maintenance so that way they don't get infected and they don't hurt the person because they can hurt. It's very painful when the cuticle get inflamed from the transition. So we do a lot of people from the Cancer Institute. They send a lot of patients to us after chemotherapy. Or when they start their chemotherapy, they recommend them go to get your nails, clip it. They're going to get affected. So we prepare them for the transition that they're going to go through.

31:44Marcela Correa:So like the hair salon, you know, do the hair for them and prepare them for this. We prepare them with the nails and with the sole or the foot too. Sometimes they build colors from side effects. Thick colors, very painful thick colors. So I treat them too. Like we treat them very slowly, but you don't compromise immunity because I already have immune compromise. So we're trying to don't open any skin and just to be very, very careful. Yeah, exactly. To treat them so that way they can go through the process. Yeah. And this is where hygiene really comes into effect, right? Absolutely. Yeah. But yeah, because the nail kind of lifts and gets cloudy.

32:19And, you know, it does. It seems like, again, back to that story where it may not grow properly ever again. Well, can they? Oh, 100%. Yeah, they do grow. They like their hair. They make changes. It's just like chemo, your hair regrows, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what you're saying, yeah. Yeah, it's like when you, yeah. It's a side effect. It's keratin. At the end, it's just the keratin that's going through a trauma. It happened on the hair, happened on the nails. Okay. It happened on the skin. A lot of times they get dry skin, itchyness, and psoriasis, some of them. Depends on how sensitive they are to the medication that they've been taking.

32:52Yeah. I guess there's, it feels like there's a permanency with nails. Like once they hit a certain point, it may be a point of no return, you know. So that's great to know. No, no, no. Nails are constantly growing. Yeah. You have to be removed, medical removed to don't grow. But yeah, 99 % of the people's nail growing, constantly growing, even when you sleep. Yeah. Yeah. All right. What do you do? Because I had a girlfriend that this happened to where I think it was, I don't know if it was fungus or you'll tell me, but it was like crumbly nail. It can be fungus. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So what do you do in that case?

33:24It's like going to the dentist again. You got to do like a root canal on the nail. Remove anything that doesn't belong there, we got to remove. So that way the person... Starting over. Yeah. Starting over. And it's always good to do in September, October. Yeah. When you, I tell people, if you're going to have a fake nail on the salmon, enjoy it. But then September, October, we're going to come back and we're going to remove anything that doesn't belong there and start fresh. So by the next spring, you have a full nail. nails may take about nine months and if you laser will grow a little faster because stimulate the growth the laser stimulate the the cells so what kind of laser is this is it yeah it's just an antifungal laser they use yeah and it's the same machine that they use in dermatology is used for other treatments too okay it's just different settings but most of them are i need an at home one of those they have a little clips that you can get in amazon oh yeah fungus need light to be go and move on.

34:18Fungus is the easiest thing to kill, but you have to be disciplined and show them light. They need moist, dark, and heat. The three elements they need to grow. Like a mushroom. When you eat mushroom, where do you find the mushroom? Under the trees, on a dark domain. So the tunnel's the same thing. So what kind of light do you buy? It can be red light, it can be blue light, any light. It doesn't matter. They don't like light. Even on the Caribbean, go sit down on the beach for a couple of weeks, you have no fungus. We think Caribbean has fungus. Look at their feet. Okay. They don't have fungus.

34:47There's a really funny commercial in Toronto. I don't know if you guys get it here. And it's like a husband and wife talking. And he's like, it's not fungus. And it's so funny because it's the exact conversation that my husband and I will have. And I'm sure so many others. What is wrong with husband's feet? And it's interesting because most of my clients are male. They love our clinic because it's private room. By the way, I'm going to say a PSA if there are any nail techs listening because I've had it done so many times. The nail, is it called a nail prosthetic when you just put like a fake nail on it?

35:24Depends on the material. It's prosthetic nail. Prosthetic is used when you use dental kind of products. And nail, I don't know, fake nail will be with the gel or the acrylic. Yeah. What do you guys use to build it up? I use both. I use the dentist stuff that the same one the dentists use just to make it safer for everybody. body and we use Keriflex. That's a product from Germany that is a resin. So we use resin, mostly resin because it's flexible. Resin, if you bump it, it's not going to hurt your nail. It's going to hurt only the part that is built, the prosthetic part. This is exactly what Naomi was just talking about.

35:57My girl in trauma, she was talking about Keriflex. Yeah, Keriflex is very good because it's flexible and you never breathe through. So you can apply medication around the cuticle and we help the nail to grow healthy. Don't apply under the nail because we're not going to get moist. Right. Right. But you can apply medication on the cuticle to help the new nail to grow. So my PSA is not to make it too long. No, never. I have had it done so many times in the past where it's too long. And that's what gets caught on things again. Because it's not sticking to the skin and then it lifts again and then you get the trauma again and it's over and over.

36:34So it has to really be as short as possible.

36:37Marcela Correa:The toe has to be the one who takes the lead, not the nail. The nail is just to protect the toe, not to take the lead. So make sure that the toe is longer than the nail. People like big toenails. They're like, come on. I know. You're going to leave the office in two minutes. You're going to come back. That I didn't do a good job because you wanted to. This is a prosthetic nail. It's not a nail. It's not attached to you. And then you damage the little nail that's left. And then when you want me to apply and I tell you, you don't have 20 % of your nail. I can apply it, you get upset. I always tell them it's monthly maintenance.

37:11Marcela Correa:How often you maintain your... Not enough. I probably go every eight weeks to get a pedicure, but I don't always replace the nail every eight weeks. No, she doesn't remove it every eight weeks to see what's going on. I don't know. It sounds like you should. I haven't seen your foot, so it's hard to tell, but some people need it to clear out and start fresh. Yeah. Otherwise mold can get on there. So it's always moist trap. Yeah. And you will never attach your own nail because the moist is there. Like a plant again. Right. Going back to the water. You have a plant. You don't drain it. The roots are going to go bad.

37:42Marcela Correa:So you're damaging the own root. What do you think about tea tree oil under the nail? I always tell people tea tree oil is antiseptic. It's not an antibiotic. So if you don't have anything, you're preventing. Tea tree oil is preventive. It's not going to treat because it's not an antibiotic. It's an antiseptic. If you got a mosquito bite, put tea tree oil. It will heal. Right. Because it's not infected. Right. You're trying to prevent it. Yeah. If you put tea tree oil, it smells good, but I don't see the use. Okay. Yeah, I don't believe in tea tree. It's more like, I think, as you said about the mold, like if you have a lot of space under there, you can use it to keep it clean, more energetic, I guess.

38:18Marcela Correa:But just use a tiny, tiny bit and rub it. So it doesn't get sitting on the skin. You cannot let the oil to be sitting on the skin. Have to massage and rub it on. So it penetrates, it's not sitting. Put a drop under the nail, it's not going to do anything other than make it worse because it's going to mold it up. Okay. Yeah. Got to keep it dry. Yeah, dry is the key. See, my podiatrist said keep it wet, but use, but you, because that's, if you want it to stay tacky, but use the tea tree oil to make sure that it doesn't get. I want to meet this podiatrist so we can work together one day and agree on something that.

38:54I don't think you're going to agree. They're fired.

38:58Marcela Correa:I would like to see what is the point to make it moist when it was only grow with moist. Yeah. You can see three oils, you know, it's moist at the end. Yeah, it's true.

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41:15let's say you don't have necessarily a medical condition but you maybe have nail yellowing from staining what can you do if you want to pull off that bare nails pedicure look this summer because i know that at your at medipedi you don't put any polish on so how do you get your nails looking like glossy and good or what's what's your trip i would say toothpaste yeah and a toothbrush in the bathroom really uh brush your feet the way you brush your teeth there's nothing wrong with that brush your toenails i am loving this i'm gonna do that i don't say mouthwash i don't want to say any brand mouthwash come on what about whitening toothpaste that too get a little electric brush you're gonna go beyond got that little electric brush that you do your face or The one that you brush your feet.

42:02Get one just for your feet and keep it just for your feet. I brush my feet once a week. Really? I brush my feet. I love my feet. With a toothbrush. Yeah. Electric toothbrush. And get the mouthwash. Put the mix with water. Spray your feet. Make them both feet. What a delight. What a delight. I love it. I love to walk around and feel that tingling. Your mouth is clean. Your feet are clean. So we love that tingling, refreshing feel. Why not? After you wear flip-flops around Manhattan. I used to remember that was in the news about how much bacteria is on feed after. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, thank you.

42:35No, thank you. So, yeah, I would say if you want to make them to look glowy, healthy toothpaste. Yeah. That makes sense. I would say let us see the toothpaste for at least a minute. So become dry. I want the toothpaste to become an exfoliation. And then you rub it, your finger over the toe. So you kind of exfoliate in the nail and then brush it. So use it as an exfoliation. Works fantastic. Yeah. Every single time I use it, it feels so good. And the cuticle looks so clean. Yeah. Because the cuticle gets refreshed. It's like a little facial for your toes. You know, you got the exfoliation, you use the mouthwash.

43:10That's like your toner. Yeah. And then do you do it? And then you massage it. Do you use an oil? Yeah. If you want to massage somebody else's feet, the only thing you want is those feet to be refreshed and clean. Of course. So if you want your husband to massage your feet, at least come with them, refresh it. You know, after a shower is a good moment to do that. Okay. And do you use like an oil at all, a cuticle oil? Yeah, I use nail serum. I have a nail serum that we created at home. Oh, okay. I use the nail serum on my fingers and my toes. So yeah, I use the nail serum all the time. So that's what I put, a little drop and massage.

43:41Always massage the oils on the nail to have the purpose. Otherwise, you put an oil there and leave it there. It's not doing anything. Massage, stimulate the nails, hydrate the cuticle, elasticity on the cuticle. It's all happening because you massage. Yeah, I've heard that jojoba oil and grapeseed oil are the two best. I love it too. Yeah. And it's like almond oil is not that good for actually hydration. Right. Yeah. Castor oil. I'm a strong believer of castor oil.

44:05Marcela Correa:You like that. My son is going to watch this. He's going to be like, yeah, that's my mom. I even drink it. I love it so much. Oh, really? Yeah. I drink a spoon a week. Yeah. I want my pipes to be lubricated so I don't get candida. So yes, I drink castor oil and don't do it because I say it, but you can try it. I love castor oil. Yeah. I put castor oil in my cuticles too. Okay. And I try it all with you. Multipurpose. Yeah. Okay. Okay, what about pushing back cuticles? Don't do it on the toes. You push your gums? No. Otherwise, you two come off. Yeah. The same with your nails. Don't push it. Leave it alone.

44:37It's the only way you keep a healthy nail if you have a cuticle. I always tell people, you cut the cuticle, you lose the nail. Yeah. You leave along the cuticle, you bruise. Bruise and lose is the cuticle. Yeah. If you want to run and bruise it and grow your new nail on there, that's it. Don't touch it. So I'm going to guess, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say you probably don't like Russian pedicures or manicures.

45:00Marcela Correa:A little too invasive for the cuticle. Yeah. And they come to me after the Russian pedicure. Believe me, I have a line of people right now. They ask them how you traumatize you now. And they tell me a Russian pedicure. 80 % of the traumas on the cuticle area. And they get not even fungal. They get infection on the cuticle. Yeah. Because the machine is heat. It's vibration. It's heat. I don't. Yeah. I tell people, leave the cuticle alone. it's got put it there for a reason yeah it has a purpose with that one we are to try to manipulate it actually exfoliate around the nail plate and that's it but we do it with oil i don't do and dry either yeah russian pedicure isn't dry so you don't bring any elasticity for the cuticle so if you dry pedicure is a game changer in terms of just like getting rid of the calluses getting rid of all the dry skin everything yeah but on the cuticle area put a little oil and then you do the drill bit with the oil on it.

45:52Marcela Correa:Only with the oil. I tell people if you do and dry you're risking to open a skin and to cost more harm than good and the idea is not to scar the nail. Some people come in to me and they have a line on the middle of the nail like that one was a machine that overdid it and then you have a you know a mark on the nail and they say oh what is this mark on my nail? That one was a Russian pedicure or whatever technique they use. It's like physical damage. Yeah yeah they damage the nail that takes nine months and then to grow out again that line is going to grow until you know yeah and what's the right way to cut your nails tray across rounded on the corners don't let the corner to be sharp right because if your toes are squeezed on the shoes and the corners are too sharp you're going to cut the next toe yeah especially if you don't trim them off yeah so you become a little rounded yeah very soft rounded on the corner with what like a file always with the file don't cut it yeah don't cut the corner just soft it around yeah and only one direction right the file doesn't matter no you can you can play violin with the file I used to hear that you didn't want to play violin with the file.

46:53No, you can play violin. Violin is very soft.

46:56Marcela Correa:We like the violin on the nails. You can only get the music out. Okay. Very gentle. We got to talk about this cheese grater. Oh, yeah. Well, I think when people think of summer feet, even if their toenails are healthy, it's like the callus removing, the getting rid of the dry skin. So tell me your thoughts on those cheese grater type files. Absolutely no. Okay. Absolutely. And why? It's nice to do something with the car of the potato, not with the feet. Yeah. Treat your foot the way you treat your face. If you're not doing the same way that you do in your face, you're doing too much. Even if it's a thick calos, if you treat it with friction, not with pressure, you get everything out.

47:33Got it. It's technique. It's always using products. You don't scrub your face without preparing the skin. So don't scrub your foot before preparing the skin. Yeah. So always moisturize, hydrate the foot before you remove the skin. And this way you can get everything out. I get the thickest calos, like an inch of calos. What? Without using any tools, just the foot file and the cream. It's just letting the product work. What's your favorite foot file to use? I use one from Gucho. It's the brand that we're using right now in the clinic. It's like a metal foot file with disposable little stickers.

48:07That's it. Simple. As far as it's not contaminated and has two sides. So one for the right foot, one for the left foot. Don't use the same sticker for both feet because if you don't have something on the other foot, you're contaminating your own feet. One side for each foot. So true. Yeah. Most of the foot files on the market has only one size. And that's why I decide, let me use the sticker once that you peel it off and it's one in each side. So I do always the healthy foot first and then the sick foot or the suspicious. Maybe it's not sick, it's suspicious. And the same with the nails. Clip it all with healthy nails first and then the sick nails.

48:40because you don't know what is going on. So in case there's something contagious, at least your tools are not contaminated. So if you only have a clipper at home, only clip the healthy nails, finish everything on the healthy nails, and then we come to the sick nails so that way we don't contaminate the healthy nails. How do you sanitize your nail clippers? At the clinic, we use autoclaves. So we sterilize the medical standards. But at home, you can boil it. Back in the day, we used to boil everything before all these fancy tools. My dad was a podiatrist. and orthopedics. So we can boil it. Good idea.

49:13Boiling hot water kills it. Once again, I think there's a lot of people listening that haven't cleaned their nail clippers in a while. True. And it is like hygienic, especially if like other people in your house are using them. That's a good point. I want to ask you if there are a few products that have impressed you that somebody can use at home. So, you know, we see all these foot powders and foams and, you know, all these different, is there anything on Amazon or CVS that you would say is good? I think people complicate too much. We go back to the days, olive oil, sugar and lemon. Make your own scrub at home.

49:50You don't need more. Make natural things, but go back to what we used to use, grandparents used to use. I don't think it's necessary to spend money on product to get a good pedicure. At home, you can make your own products with sugar, brown sugar, regular sugar, whatever you prefer. A little bit of everything and make a little scrub. and scrub your own feet. What are you doing with the lemon? The lemon helps a lot with the pigmentation. You know, people get hyperpigmentation and helps to clean it when it's dirty. Like you see those little lines when you peel potato and your finger get those little lines.

50:22Yeah. Mix those three ingredients together and scrub it. You will see, you can become perfectly clean. So the acidity of the lemon cleans those little dirty areas. Yeah. Especially on the heels when people walk around with open shoes and the heels look very dirty. Yeah. Mix it. And it's great. Yeah. And that's a green lemon. Lemons, but not limes, because limes can stain your fingers. Or give you a margarita burn. Yeah, that's right. That's right. I will say I love the foot logic, foot foam. I love that because I get very cracked heels and I find it really works. That's because you buy them in D slow.

50:56Yes, that too. That too. You crack heels 90 % of the time. I reflect it on the heels. I don't know how much more vitamin D I can literally take in the run of the day. I'm going to have to get the freaking IV. No, do it here. Yeah, okay. Even more. And so the baby foot peels you get on Amazon? No, no. I never use those. Yeah. You don't know what you're treating. And most of the time remove the healthy skin, never the calos. Right. I haven't seen somebody say, wow, I used it. The calos came off. Right. The only area that came off is the arch. Yeah. It's so embarrassing. And everywhere else. But the calos, calos is still there.

51:29Okay. So you're missing the purpose. And you don't know if you have psoriasis, eczema, calus, or atlefut. If you put the acid on atlefut, you're making them even worse. Oh, yeah. Because now it's going to be open skin. Nah. Right. What's the most challenging thing to treat? Is it bunions? Is it cracktails? Is it athlete's foot? I would say people discipline is harder to treat.

51:55Marcela Correa:To make them to do homework is the hardest part. Yes. Yeah. Anyone that I can transform a foot in 45 minutes, I can send you like from a homeless to a beauty star. Yeah. But if you don't do homework. Yeah. I think just educating people and making them conscious about the problem. Fungals, I would say they're worse to treat. Because people give up it easy. Yeah. They don't see the growth in three weeks. They expect the nail to grow overnight after 20 years with fungus. And I tell them, no, this is a process. Take one year. You got to come every four weeks. If you don't do every four weeks, you're going backwards because now the healthy that's growing is going to get sick from the one that, because it's not the nail, it's the skin is sick.

52:34Marcela Correa:Right. People say I have nail fungus. I say, no, you have fungus under the nail. The nail is being affected by the fungus. But if you, we don't keep clipping that toenail that is sick, you never heal. I would say nail fungus is the hardest because of the patient. People have no patient. They want instant results. Right now we live in an instant result world. So if you don't get result immediately, you don't believe it at work. Yeah. What are your favorite shoes to recommend? What are you wearing? Your sneakers? I don't use brand shoes. I prefer to wear something that's comfortable for my foot.

53:06Marcela Correa:Yeah. Every human being has different foot. Yeah. People from Germany has a rectangular foot, very long. American foot is more in the triangle shape. It depends on where you're supposed to be born. If you have a high arch, you're supposed to be on a climbing. What are you climbing? Rocky. If you have flat foot, you're supposed to be in Africa. So if you are in South America, you're going to have a mix wider foot, very wide. That's why when South Americans come here, we get bunions because our foot is not made for this kind of shoes. So it depends where your background is. So if you are getting bunions, often it is you're wearing the wrong shoes.

53:40Oh, yeah.

53:41Marcela Correa:A hundred percent. Yeah. A hundred percent. Yeah. I always tell people, put your foot on top of the shoes, not inside. When you're buying shoes, measure outside the shoes. If your pinky is hanging outside the shoes, you know that shoes are not for you. So what are you, Carlene's not wearing the nail, but what do you make of the high heel flip flop trend that's happening right now? I will say a lot of planta fasciitis in the near future. I can see podiatry getting a lot of corisone shots and a lot of laser for pain. Yeah, yeah. Okay. When I saw it, I was like, okay, new business for the big opportunity to make money in this country.

54:17Marcela Correa:Yes. You create a problem and we have a solution. Yeah. Well, if someone could only do three things for healthier feet and toenails starting today, what would it be? Keep your toenails shorter than the toe. Toe-paste them once a week, clean them up, and the sole of the foot. Don't forget, the sole of the foot is like your tongue. If you don't clean the sole of your foot, you're going to get other conditions like crack heels, atlas foot, and stuff like that. So to keep the nail shorter than the toe is the most important for me. Do you do reflexology? No, at this moment, we don't have a person. We're looking for somebody.

54:52So if you know anybody good, when you get reflexology, it's great. It's amazing. You got to go to this place. It's like so affordable. It has to be reflexology because it's shooting foot massage and reflexology. Yeah, yeah. Reflexology is great. I love reflexology myself. Well, Marcella, we've learned so much today. Thank you for sharing your expertise with us. I want to work on both of your feet so that I wake at home. Oh, this is wonderful. When this camera goes off, you guys, my shoes are flying off. I'm happy to see that. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. My pleasure. My pleasure. Thanks for listening.

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