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Breaking Beauty Podcast Episode Notes: Basma Hameed
Episode Overview Title: Meet The Scar Fixer of Beverly Hills - Who’s Also Completely Changing The Foundation Game - Basma Hameed Hosts: Jill Dunn and Carlene Higgins Release Date: [Insert date of episode release here] Guest: Basma Hameed - Founder of Basma Hameed Scar Camouflage Clinics and Basma Beauty
Episode Description Basma Hameed shares her transformative journey from a childhood scar survivor to a pioneering expert in scar camouflage. This episode details her groundbreaking work in dermal procedures and her new makeup line, Basma Beauty, which is set to expand into Sephora stores.
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Key Topics Discussed
Basma's Personal Journey
- Childhood Trauma: Basma suffered third-degree burns to 40% of her face as a toddler due to an accident involving boiling oil.
- Emotional Impact: The scars led to bullying and emotional struggles, prompting Basma to experiment with makeup at a young age to conceal her scars.
- Inspiration for Career: Her experiences fueled her passion for creating cosmetic solutions for scars, leading her to develop a unique approach to scar camouflage.
Scar Camouflage Procedure
- Definition: A pioneering dermal procedure that uses custom skin-tone pigments to make scars nearly imperceptible.
- Technique: Developed over two decades, it involves mixing colors to match skin tones and applying them to scar tissue.
- Clientele: Basma's clinics in Beverly Hills and Toronto attract celebrities and royalty seeking to conceal surgical scars, acne scars, and stretch marks.
Basma Beauty Makeup Line
- Launch Background: Basma Beauty began with the creation of The Foundation Stick, a product designed for ease of use and customizable shades.
- Product Offerings: The line features 42 shades of foundation and a new collection of cream blushes that went viral for their vibrant colors.
- Availability: Basma Beauty will be available in U.S. Sephora stores starting next week.
Healing and Self-Acceptance
- Expert Tips: Basma emphasizes the importance of acceptance and working on self-love as a foundational step in healing from scars.
- Advice for Scars: She shares that silicone strips can effectively minimize keloids and that there are no miraculous creams for scar healing; instead, practical measures should be taken.
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Key Takeaways
- Empowerment through Makeup: Basma illustrates how makeup can serve as a powerful tool for confidence and self-expression, especially for those with scars.
- Innovative Solutions: The episode highlights the importance of innovative techniques in cosmetic treatments, particularly in underrepresented areas like scar camouflage.
- Call to Action: Basma encourages listeners to take charge of their healing journeys, reminding them that they should not feel limited by their scars or past traumas.
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- [Basma Hameed on Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/justbasmahameed/)
- [Basma Beauty Official](https://www.instagram.com/basmabeautyofficial/)
- [Breaking Beauty Podcast Official Website](https://breakingbeautypodcast.com/episode-recaps/)
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This episode delivers valuable insights into the world of beauty and personal healing, showcasing Basma Hameed as an inspiring figure in the industry. The discussion balances personal narrative with professional expertise, making it a must-listen for those interested in beauty innovation and self-acceptance.
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Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00The following podcast is a dear media production. NYX Cosmetics is one of our show partners this week. I love when a budget-friendly brand is out here creating some of the most viral products and some of the most talked about moments in beauty. And that's certainly the case with NYX Professional Makeup, who, by the way, are celebrating their 25th birthday this year. So congrats on that milestone. I personally have a lot of products in my own makeup kit that I re-up from NYX, including the NYX Thick It Stick It Brow Mascara. I talk about it all the time. It's in our Hall of Fame. And they really just nailed that accessibility price point.
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1:51Welcome to Breaking Beauty, the podcast all about the breakthrough people, products, and moments in beauty. We're your hosts, Jill Dunn and Carlene Higgins.
2:04Welcome back to Breaking Beauty podcast, everyone. I'm one of your co-hosts, Jill Dunn, and I'm here as always with Carlene Higgins, like we have been every single Wednesday for the past seven years. Hey, Jill. Hello, BBs. Hope everyone is soaking up every last bit of summer. We are two beauty editors turned beauty podcasters. And each week we're sharing what's good in the world of beauty with amazing guests like Anastasia Soiree of Anastasia Beverly Hills. Mario Dadovanovic is another one of my favorite episodes of Makeup by Mario. Joanna Check, the one and only skin guru. I mean, the list goes on, Jill.
2:41Yeah. Tracee Ellis Ross, Victoria Beckham, Hailey Bieber. And of course, given that we're beauty editors, we also test products like It's our JLB because, well, it is. We bring our hashtag damn good episodes. That's where we like try new stuff on the market, let you know what's worth the money and what's not. And those have become some of our most popular style of episodes over the past 300 episodes. And today we're welcoming one of the most inspirational founders we've ever had on the microphone, Basma Hamid. She's the founder of the Basma Hamid Scar Camouflage Clinic. There's one in Beverly Hills and one in Toronto and Basma Beauty.
3:22It truly is an honor to welcome Basma today. And I'm not overstating it when I say that day in and day out, she is changing people's lives with her work. It's a first of its kind dermal procedure that she pioneered known as scar camouflage. Yes. And you're going to find out exactly what that is just ahead. But this treatment that she offered was actually inspired by her own childhood trauma, which resulted in third degree burns to 40 percent of her face. It happened when she was a toddler. And, you know, she's going to share that story with us. Just a bit of a trigger warning, I guess, there I had tears in my eyes.
4:05But the positive in this story is that it set her out on a journey of experimenting with pigmented colors, both procedurally and cosmetically at a really young age. And of course, she's turned this this passion and this drive into what she does today that impacts so many people for the better. I love sharing stories like this because we have encountered so many brands over many years where it's just clearly barfed out of a marketing brief. And that is not the case here. It is true to her experience. It is so much more powerful because she has this really personal connection. So in today's episode, we're going to share just how she pioneered this mind-blowing scar camouflaging technique over the past two decades.
4:50Yeah, Basma treats thousands of patients now through this permanent form of color correction, including for celebrities and royalty, by the way. She develops custom skin tone pigments that she successfully used to make almost any scar on any skin tone imperceptible from head to toe. And we ask her about everything from acne scars to keloid scars, post-operative scars. And we also get the details on like how much her services cost and, you know, who the right candidate is and that kind of thing. And what's interesting, of course, is that all of this work that she's done over the years has actually culminated into a color cosmetics line.
5:32It's called Basma Beauty. And in fact, Basma was part of Sephora Accelerate in 2021. And perhaps it comes as no surprise that the Basma Foundation sticks have gone completely viral on TikTok. 42 shades. And I imagine that her understanding of skin tone and undertones are likely unmatched. Yeah. And also, I would say the texture really sets them apart as well. It's like there's this glide to them and it's travel friendly. And I just love that she's considered skin texture as well, because I think that that's a big thing when you do have a scar or a burn or anything of that nature. It's like the glide is is incredible.
6:12And more recently, she launched cream blush, beautiful, bright pops of color anyone can wear. Of course, we're going to hear all about that. And you may know Basma Beauty already. But big news, Basma Beauty is launching officially in U.S. Sephora stores the first week of September. So So you can consider this your Basma primer. And just before we dive in with Basma, I want to give everyone a heads up that we have a very special bonus episode dropping this Friday. It's all about budget beauty with an epic guest. And trust me when I tell you we have one of the best promos and offers we have ever had on this show.
6:55So be sure to watch your feed for that extra special bonus content coming up real soon. Welcome, Basma Hamid.
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9:46Well, welcome to my condo. Thank you for having me. Normally, if we were in LA, we would have lights, camera, action, but we have today iPhones and we're in the basement of my condo. That's right. Thank you for joining us here. Thank you for having me. Don't worry. The best chats go down in the basement of Jill's condo. I love it. I love it. It's true. It's true. But in all seriousness, we're so excited to have you on the show today, Basma, because because the work that you do is so important. It's a difference maker in people's lives. We've rarely, if ever, had a story like this on the podcast.
10:20So with that, let's talk about what it is that you do. SCAR camouflage procedure is something that you pioneered. Tell us what that is. So I'll walk you through, first of all, like how I even got into all of this. Oh, okay. So I'll take you back a little bit. We're going back. So I was actually when I was two years old, I was playing in the kitchen with my brother and fire started inside the kitchen. So my brother was kind of trying. He was nervous. He was trying to take the pan. It was filled like with boiling oil. He was trying to take the pan over to the sink. He ended up tripping on top of me.
10:59So the hot oil ended up spilling down half of my face. And I just remember like bits and pieces of it, even though being like two years old at that time. But it's like that instant shock. Yes. And literally, I went through all types of surgeries. Like I was I spent so much time in the hospital. There was a point where they literally like the medical team back home was like, she's not really going to make it. It was so severe. So they were doing like skin grafts, but it kept failing. There was like too many complications. And I just, I ended up making it. Yes, you're here. Yay. But what ended up happening, the third degree, because it was the burn, it was so bright and red.
11:49It was very hard. Like when I go outside, it's always the first thing anybody would see. Yes. So the number one thing they always tell me is like, what happened to your face? And the bullying, the making fun of like you think like kids are harsh, but really adults can be just as harsh. And I heard everything that you can imagine. So I came across like being so young, I think around like six years old, I came across makeup and I started playing around with it. And then I started realizing like, oh, my God, like it was giving me that confidence, like that little bit of boost. It's just because it was concealing my redness.
12:32Right. Yeah. So I just started literally playing with it, mixing my own colors. Back then, I didn't know I was actually doing color correcting, like mixing colors that's going to counteract the redness in my skin. I didn't really know that that's what I was doing, but I played around with it for so many years. It's just something that I fell in love with instantly. Can I just ask how your brother's doing? Because that would be very traumatizing for how old was he? He was eight. Okay. I have a son who's 10, so I'm like about to cry right now because I feel like that would be so traumatic for him as well.
13:10It's traumatic. I think he's very okay. We're super, super tight. Right. I know you're getting it's it's hard. I know. I know. And not just I think for that, I think my mother. So I've always been very protective. Yeah. And a part of me like we're both going to tear up. But really, I'm so protective because I've gone through so much pain myself. I want to be like I made this thing to myself like I have to make it because then my mom is never going to forgive herself. Right. My brother, like my whole family, because it's, it's a lot when something happens like that to your baby, to your child, to your sibling.
13:58Yeah. It's, it's a lot. It's a family event. Yeah. Right. It's impacting every single aspect of your life. You know, and you're sitting here today and telling the story. It's like, I'm sure you're so used to telling it at this point, but like, I'm sure, you know us hearing it for the first time or anyone who's hearing it for the first time it's just like unimaginable what you've been through and what your family has been through yeah you know but after like going through so many surgeries yeah that time I think around 14 years old and it was here in Toronto okay so I went to see my doctor and I was like okay like what's next and he was like we literally tried everything there's nothing left that we can do right and so like laser is that what we're talking about laser peels skin grafts anything you can imagine all types of surgeries yeah and I was like what I still have the red discoloration yeah back then he said those were his exact words and I'm not exaggerating he said take your money and go on a vacation because there's nothing left that we can do for you.
15:09And I was like, whoa, that's a lot. Even that, that was a lot to take on. And then I remember like going home that day and I said, that's literally either I give up now or figure out like a purpose for me to move forward. Right. Right. So I started, I went online, I Googled and then I came across permanent makeup. Okay. So eyebrows, like, you know, tattooing eyebrows, eyeliner, lips. I came across that and then I'm like, wait, so that's a thing. You can put pigment in skin. Yeah. So then I had the idea. I'm like, why not we mix like foundation color and then put it into the scar tissue, like into my scar.
15:55That was my biggest insecurity was always the redness. Yeah. So I said, okay, why can't we do that? I went back to the medical community. I consulted with a bunch of doctors and I said, what do you think about that? And then they said, one, it's the worst thing that you can do for yourself. And then two, they're like, it will never work. Scar tissue is like dead skin. It won't pick up pigment. And then when I asked them, I said, well, have you tried? and they're like no so you're telling me that it will never work but no one has ever tried it right it was strictly always for permanent cosmetics and I feel like at that time too probably it was very separate like they would almost consider that like cosmetic you know that was like what your mom and your aunt did was go get their eyebrows done or permanent but like the medical community wasn't really necessarily dabbling in permanent no tattoos or yeah lack of a better word, permanent makeup.
16:52Yes. Yeah. Yes. It was always because even I think I had like three hair transplants to my eyebrow. OK. Yeah. And they all failed. Literally every single hair transplant failed. But we always had the option of permanent cosmetics, but they never gave me that as an option. Right. It's like, OK, we'll do another five more hair transplants, your eyebrow, no problem. And it's like, but there are other options. And sometimes like you have to go and do the research yourself and push yourself like that way you don't feel like you're disappointed or also discouraged that there's absolutely nothing out there.
17:31Yeah. Right. So did you then become a guinea pig? Did you go to a tattoo artist on Queen Street? Like what happened next? So I ended up finding a permanent makeup artist and I got my eyebrows done. And from that, I discussed the idea and everybody, again, they are scared. Like you have a burn. We don't really want to touch it. Yeah. Okay. For me, like I literally had nothing to lose. I've tried everything and I grew up in the hospital. So I'm not afraid of looking at wounds, open wounds, all of that. It's nothing to me like it honestly. So I ended up apprenticing with a permanent makeup artist.
18:14And at the same time, I went to school for aesthetics. Okay. So I already had my background, but it's like I wanted to make it official. So I learned everything I needed to learn. And then while I was during my apprenticeship, I said, okay, I want to give this a try. I would mix my own colors. It was like my foundation shade. I was trying to get it as close as possible to it. And I started playing around. like I would the first area was like a Friday night. I remember this. I started right here on my chin, like closer to my chin area because I'm like, well, it's on the bone and it's far away from my eyes.
18:49So it can't go that bad. OK. And from the first time I tried it, I saw very, very subtle improvement. OK. But it was an improvement. And the reason why I was able to see it because it was like literally right on my face and I was studying it every single day. And at that moment, I'm like, no, this is working. Right. So I continued for a few years to play around, improve the technique, improve the pigments, all of that. And we were getting at that time, we were getting clients that were coming in for permanent cosmetics and they would ask me like, oh, how did you get into this and whatever? And I would share my story and they say, Basma, you know, I have this birthmark.
19:35I've tried everything. Nothing has worked. Can you give it a try? And I was completely honest. I'm like, I've never tried it. I tried it on myself. Third degree burn. I don't know how it is on birthmarks. So it started, we went into birthmarks, accident scars, surgical scars, any type of discoloration. Yeah. So I started going into it, practicing more, perfecting it. And it's like it kept growing and growing. And the word started word of mouth exactly everybody was sharing it and then I think around like 21 I opened up back then my location was on Young and Finch oh yeah I opened up the clinic and and then CNN had reached out back then it was Dr.
20:23Sanjay Gupta okay he heard about it and he's like this is amazing we've never heard anything like this and it just grew from there you called it paramedical micropigmentation specialist. Yes. Okay. So I've never heard of that before. Yes. So is this so when Dr. Sanjay Gupta came calling it, it sounded kind of medical or? Yes. So here's, this is a great question. So let me tell you something. Truthfully, when I started it, I was at that time, 17, 18 years old. Right. And I'm like, I want to be respected by the medical community. So what do I call it? I didn't want to be taken as a joke because of my age.
21:06That was always working against me too. Like you're too young. You don't know what you're talking about. So I'm like, what do I call it? What do I call it? So I look, you know how the paramedics, like you see that and it's like, you see the ambulance truck and whatever. I literally saw that and I said, I'm going to call it paramedical micropigmentation to get the respect from the medical community. Right. Right. And even back then, if you I don't know if you can still find it, my logo was literally similar to the paramedic. I know it was crazy. Really? Because it's like you have a great idea. Yeah.
21:43I was like I proved that it was it was right. But because of my age, then I learned I said, you know what? I have to continue to do this. Then my work will speak for itself. You created your own title, which is how we know you truly pioneered this. Now, is that something that other people can now train for? Is there a certification? Are there more than one of you? Yes. Yes. Okay. So at our locations, we have technicians that provide the treatment. It takes a long training, like a lot, a lot of training. And also you have to just, it has to be done correctly because it is scar tissue. Yeah. You don't want to try to you want to always aim for improving it.
22:26We're not in it to kind of make things, you know, go left. So it does require a lot of training. So you don't you don't need to have like nurses on site or anything like that. It really truly is more like permanent makeup or tattoo artists where it's all just like learning as you go and refining and refining and refining your technique. Exactly. So there's no danger to there are no adverse side effects. I don't think side effects. Okay. It either doesn't work. Okay. Okay. Because it wasn't done correctly. Or if you don't have proper training, you end up like chewing the skin. Okay. So that's why I say like, because scar tissue, like, like a traditional tattoo artist might go really deep into your skin.
23:13They're working on healthy tissue, right? Right. So it will respond different than scar tissue, like something that's keloided, that's thicker, raised, or it could be thicker under your skin. So you really have to understand scars really well to know exactly how deep you're going into it, how it's going to respond, all of that. Yeah.
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27:17So I've read a lot of reviews of your scar camouflage clinics online and you do everything from head to toe. And this is life changing stuff, everyone. I mean, there's people with dog bites on their face. There's people who have had botched surgeries from BBLs to, or they have like keloid scars. Can you just like walk us through the process if someone's listening and maybe they do have a scar that's been bothering them, like what it would look like to come and see you, the process? Yes. So usually it's always starts off with a consultation. Yeah. We have to assess the area. We have to know your background exactly.
27:46What have you tried? What kind of treatment, surgery, all of that. Second thing is seeing like, do you qualify for the treatment? Like, is this going to be the answer or there's another option? Right. Like sometimes I can to my colleagues, I can say, you know what, let's try this laser first, finish off with that and then I'll get you to come in. So I can do lasers at the clinic. No, no, it's strictly pigment. I have like a full organization of like colleagues that we work together, like the top plastic surgeons, like the top estheticians, all of that. And we constantly refer my my thing is always the best results for the client.
28:27Right. Whether it's me or somebody else, I want to make sure that you get the best result, Like the finished result has to be the greatest. So I have to like really assess it to see, okay, is it our treatment first or do I refer you to a colleague, get that and then you come back. In Toronto, we were dealing with a lot of, it was all types of burns, birthmarks, accident scars, a lot. When I went to Los Angeles, we were getting inquiries. But as soon as you get to LA, it's plastic surgery mecca. So then it changed. The clients completely changed. It was more plastic surgery scars. Yeah. The facelifts, BBL.
29:16Mommy makeovers. Mommy makeovers. Like, I was like, oh my God. Yeah. Like I wasn't really expecting that. Yeah. And I was like, Okay, interesting. Yeah. And so you've had celebrities and you can't probably say who they are, but you have celebrities in there. We are. So 2016, I went to L.A. I didn't know anything about it, but I decided I said, you know what? Let's give it a try. In 2016, I opened up the clinic there, the second location. Beverly Hills, baby. In Beverly Hills. So in the heart. Yes. And within that first year. Now, mind you, I swear to you, I was going there with zero clients. Yeah.
30:02Zero clients. The first year it started like I started getting contacted by a whole bunch of celebrities like A-listers, members of royal families. They started reaching out and it's always I was new to it. So it's not they would never use their name. It's always under somebody else's name. And then when they show up and then they have like secret service, like 20 guys with them and they're like standing in the hallway and it was so new to me. No, really. But so you're you're camouflaging like facelift scars in the hairline or what do you primarily do for these people? The biggest one is liposuction scars.
30:44Oh, OK. Like I don't I can't even say how many we do a day. Wow. But really, a lot. So what can't you fix? What can I fix? Nothing. No, I'm joking. No, what can I? Melasma. Okay. Yeah, I don't touch because it can actually like make it go a lot darker. So I don't touch on that. If somebody's pregnant or breastfeeding, I don't do unless like after they're done. Yeah. So, yeah, there's few things. And then it's just like seeing like, are they a good candidate for the for the treatment? OK. What would make somebody a good candidate or not a good candidate? Expectations. OK. You know, I think expectations like I don't BS anybody.
31:30Like I want to be direct in terms of how much can I improve it? Right. Without hurting their feelings. Yeah. Absolutely not hurting the feelings. But how much can we actually improve it? And then if they say, no, no, no, no, no. I'm looking for perfection. And it's like, I really can't. Yeah. I honestly. Under promise, over deliver. Yeah. They'll always be happy. Exactly. That's what I live by. Yeah. Something that I'm asked about a lot is ice pick scars from acne. So how would you go about fixing that? Can you do that? So for anyone listening, that's kind of where you get like the divots that are in your skin and they're just the most impossible texture to cover with makeup.
32:11right so can you fix those so with that so I specifically go for discoloration any type of discoloration if they have color like let's say they're more brown or red we can definitely go in but with with those type of acne scars because it's a loss of collagen under the skin yeah so sometimes I mean depending there could be ways like lasers that can kind of improve the texture a little bit more different. I've seen some some clients try to do filler, a little bit of filler in that area. But it all really depends exactly how deep it is, what the surface is like. So that's where like a consultation comes in for proper assessment to try to come up with the best option.
32:58Right, right. Yes. And how long should a person wait? Let's say they've had a mommy makeover or facelift or blepharoplasty, speaking for myself, how long should they wait before they come see you? It varies. So let's say we do a consultation three months post-op. We have to look at the area. If we get the okay from the plastic surgeon, then we can move forward. So it could be three months, six months, or we have to wait the full year. Okay. And you do work on bleph scars like that's safe to do on the eyelid area you we've worked everywhere does it hurt okay so the thing is about scar tissue there's so much nerve damage okay that you really don't feel anything okay so that's the plus that we have good you don't feel anything and we do eyelids we've done literally every spot on the body yeah except like the the bottom of your foot It doesn't really take there, but pretty much anywhere.
33:54So you can make bleph scars. And we're talking about blepharoplasty, everybody. This is like on top of your eyelid. Yeah. Very popular procedure. So you can make that look invisible through camouflage. Like, for example, the pictures on your Instagram are insane with the bleph. With the bleph, most of the time, like, let's say, for example, you would do it. OK, we're just throwing it out there. Chances are. I'm two weeks post-op, by the way, in case you're wondering. So what it is, it's what I can, from my experience, there's a possibility where it turns hypo. It goes white, a white scar. And let's say, for example, you have a little bit of redness, olive undertone.
34:37So we would have to customize a color that, you know, matches your complexion. And we would go in exactly where that scar is. Yeah. Yeah. And then blend it with everything else. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. How do you get the color? I mean, so you need to have access to infinite colors. This is I'm picturing the prescriptives counter in like the early 2000s. How do you do that? Well, I did that, I think, in the beginning. I probably had maybe 400 shades and then two shades got nothing on basma. Yeah, exactly. That's with the treatment. So yeah, yeah. With the treatment, yeah I had a lot and it would get a little overwhelming and then with time I started realizing like I just learned undertones so well yeah I can look at a person and know exactly what I need to do within maybe using three or four shades I can come up with their color so and that took years and years and years of experience just learning skin learning undertones the best way like to see them because sometimes they can come in and it's so hot outside and they're really really red yeah so I had I have to wait like till their temperature comes down then I'm able to adjust like make those adjustments but it's just it's really it's experience yeah and so you can get every pigment match is there a pigment you cannot match I haven't and if I didn't before, I definitely found it.
36:13Okay. So like I, that's something that I always, you know, I told you earlier, like any type of challenge, I have to figure it out, you know, for, especially for the treatment. We've had so many cases and it's always literally, it's been over 20 years now of doing scar camouflage. I always get asked the first question is, do you have my shade? Right. Yeah. Like always. Yeah. Always so nervous. Like, are you sure? And they look over to my where I prepare everything. They're like, are you sure this is going to match? And I'm like, just trust me. OK, it's trust the process. It's fine. But that was always the number one question.
36:56And is it how many treatments do you need? Is it just one and done? Depending on the case, on average, I would say three to six. OK, three to six treatments, about a month in between between each treatment. That gives us enough time to kind of see how your skin responds with with skin. It's really interesting. Like sometimes you can do like, let's say a tummy tuck scar and a breast lift scar. it's the same client but maybe their tummy tuck scar will respond a little bit different than the breast lift scar so it's just it gives us enough time to really understand their skin and and then any adjustments we need to make we can do it throughout the sessions yeah well even like tattoos you often will go in more than once right or whatever and you're saying it doesn't hurt?
37:48No, I can guarantee you that. Okay. I have topical anesthetic. I literally have every single time, but maybe throughout my whole history of doing this, maybe I've used it like three times. Okay. Yeah. Like literally we barely get to use it. Because it's more superficial. We go a little deeper, but it's just, you don't really feel it. Okay. Like it's like kind of like numbness in the scar tissue. So you don't really feel it. Right. Okay. Yeah. No. Good point. Yes. That's it's amazing what you can do. So what should somebody budget? Like I know there's a huge range because the size of the scar could differ, but can you give us a range or an idea?
38:25It can range. I mean, I would say probably between 800, depending on the size and it goes up. It's exactly matching like laser treatments, if not less. OK. Yeah. So we try our best and also the amount of work that is required. So let's say, for example, somebody might say, oh, it's such a tiny, tiny little liposuction scar, right? The smaller it is, the more difficult it is. So it's actually opposite. Then larger scars, we can do it. Like there's like room to play around with it, all of that. But with a liposuction scar, it's so detailed. It's so precise that you have to be so precise with it.
39:09So it really varies, but I seen it like it's comparable to laser treatment. Okay. That's a good ballpark to know. Yeah. Yes.
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41:34So what a lot of people may not know is that you've also started a makeup line. We're going to talk about that in a second, but I do have a question for you first is have you picked up any tips because I know you work with like a cohort of plastic surgeons and estheticians as well. Have you picked up any tips about what works for healing scars, like products that you'd recommend that you just have seen people have good success with or just like deep acne or anything, any kind of scars, stretch marks, whatever. Have you picked up anything along the way where you're like this, this shit's legit?
42:09I mean, there's some they're really not legit. Like let's say Stretch mark, stretch mark creams and all of that. Yeah. If your stretch mark is white, your body's not going to reproduce pigment. Right. Because of an oil you're using or a lotion. Right. Like, let's be real. Yeah. OK, so let's get that out. I love being real. In terms of in terms of what I what I've seen works, of course, is scar tape. Oh, those are amazing. Silicone tapes. Those are amazing. Absolutely. Like after surgery, it kind of applies pressure to the scar. So if you type that keloids, like at least it helps with minimizing the keloid.
42:51Okay. And that's like fresh off surgery. They're called like SteriStrips and they look like mini band-aids. They're silicone though. And they, yeah, you could just like pop them on and they stick. Yes. They're great. I've seen those. Don't waste your money on creams. Get those. No. Okay. No. We'll link to some on our website. Yeah. But there. Yeah. There is very, very great. Those silicone strips I would I would recommend. OK, so we want to talk a bit about your makeup line. I understand that you were actually part of the Sephora Accelerate program. Is that right? Yes. In 2021. Yes. So now your products are available at Sephora in North America.
43:27So tell us how your makeup line kind of is an extension of what you do. Makeup is everything to me. I literally you might think I'm crazy. I wear makeup 365 days a year. Like that's more than us. Every single day. I don't care where I'm going. I have my makeup on. I love it. That's everything to me. So that was never, I always knew like I'm one day I'll have my own makeup line. But because what I went through with the clinic was always like trying to prove myself, like everything was always working against me with my age. and now you know what I know now and having I wanted to be in a comfortable position like prove it through my expertise my experience I can talk about it confidently and proudly without somebody saying oh it's just another makeup line you know so for me I because I told you earlier every client always brought that to my attention do you have our shade and I thought I was the only person that's that have like that has to mix colors and customize my own color.
44:36But really, it was such a need. Like everybody, nobody can find their shade. Everybody was always scared to try something new. So I said, I have to do this. And it was the perfect time. I actually started in 2016 working on the foundation stick. And it took such a long time because I had this envision I wanted like liquid foundation in a stick format. I wanted it to be super creamy, like it glides on your face, like it's not tugging. Usually foundation sticks are a little bit more dry. They drag. Yeah. Yeah. They drag your skin and I don't want anything like that. So I wanted it to be easy, like on the go.
45:19You can use it to spot conceal if you don't want to put it on everywhere. So I had this idea. So it's a stick foundation. And I always wanted something that was really bold. Like I wanted it to stand out. I grew up, I was always boxed in in the medical makeup, you know, category. Yeah. So like, oh, you have a scar. And that happened somewhere here. I walked into a store and they're like right away, like go over here because they saw my burn. Here's the cover of facts. Right. It was like they just didn't know how to or was that one that L 'Oreal did? Derma Blend. Derma Blend. Yes. So it was like, you know, you want to call very clinical.
46:04And I was so embarrassed, honestly, because, you know, like their market was marketing is all scars, like stuff like that. so yeah I had it I bought it because that was recommended to me but I was so embarrassed around my friends to like take it out of my purse or bag because I didn't want to bring any more attention you know so like I was very conscious of that and so when when I started working on on my foundation and my makeup line I wanted to go bold like from the design the color I wanted to pop OK, from the formula, the formula took me about four years and it was honestly no one could have prepared me for it because I didn't know there was so much I didn't know.
46:51We literally had to test out not the formula, but the undertones, too. How do you perfect the undertones? So you go through a lot of trial and, you know, working on that as well. And yeah, so it took a very long time. and so how many shades did you come out with so we launched originally with 40 shades okay 10 per category and we expanded it now to 42 okay but my the whole goal was to oh also it's a foundation but you can use it as bronzer contour highlight so it can layer on top of one another the different shades without having it feel too cakey or heavy on the face it's super lightweight yeah so took all of that into consideration in like you said like in 2021 we we applied to be a part of the Sephora Accelerate and we ended up getting picked and that on its own honestly like a pure dream Yeah.
47:56I would have never imagined like, like, OK, wait, burn survivor gone through hell and to be to be, you know, a part of somewhere like anything Sephora affiliation was a dream. Well, that's amazing. And I know that earlier this year you launched into like full color cosmetics. You now have blushes, cream blushes as well. And they're very bold. You love a pop of color. You're wearing fuchsia with us today. And I love that there's such a bright, you know, they they're really happy, as you say. So all my products I'm very careful with when we're developing. I want them to be able to layer on your skin without moving your base foundation or anything.
48:37But also everything is versatile. So meaning you can go super sheer. And I know it's a little deceiving with the blush. they look very bright but they go on super sheer and they're buildable okay so that's the thing about it that I always was afraid of you know putting too much like you first apply yeah you know how do I take this back so I made sure like every product is always you can go from sheer to bold yeah you have that flexibility okay well our last question for you before we let you go you know there's probably a lot of people listening who have scars of you know whether it was from trauma or whether they went out and had plastic surgery.
49:19What's your message to any of our listeners that might be kind of suffering in silence with their scars and don't know where to go from here? I think honestly is accepting it as the first step, because if you're if you're in denial, it's going to be a very long, painful journey. Like if you always question yourself and say, what if, you know, I did this, then it wouldn't have happened. Or what if could have all of that. All that's doing is creating more pain inside. You have to work on slowly healing yourself from the inside and taking it one step at a time. Don't overwhelm yourself. Your life is your life and the decisions we make, we are in control of our future and our story, not everybody else.
50:11So I don't play a victim in my life. I always thought like I have to do whatever it takes to push through. Like you owe it to yourself. You don't have to keep like putting your fate in somebody else's hands. Live your life freely. You have one shot. Live your life freely. You deserve to feel your best and live the best life that you can make for yourself. And don't let anybody limit you and box you in. It doesn't matter whether you've gone through it, if you're suffering from a scar or divorce, whatever it is you're going through, because a lot of people do suffer in silence. You meet them. You don't know what they're going through, but you have to work on yourself, own it, live with it, like, and find a way how you can move forward.
51:00And that will create the most beautiful story for yourself. You don't have to look back and say, oh, I wish I had dealt with it differently. Yeah. But your opportunities now. Yeah. Well, what a great way to end. Thank you, Basma. Thank you so much for having me. Thank you. Thanks for listening. You can find details on every product mentioned in today's episode, along with our exclusive promo codes on our blog at breakingbeautypodcast.com. While you're there, be sure to sign up for our newsletter. Every episode will be delivered directly to your inbox so you won't miss a single thing. And get social with us.
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Having suffered third degree burns to 40% of her face as a toddler, Basma Hameed set out on a two decade-long journey to pioneer a first-of-its-kind dermal procedure known as “scar camouflage,” employing custom skin tone pigments to make almost any scar, on any skin tone, nearly imperceptible.
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In this week’s episode, we find out why celebrities and royalty flock to her Basma Hameed Clinics in Beverly Hills and Toronto to hide tell-tale surgery lines, acne scars and stretch marks – and we get the details on her gone-viral colour cosmetics line, Basma Beauty, expanding across US Sephora stores next week.
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- From severe burns to birthmarks, discover how Basma works her permanent, disguise magic
- How much you can expect to pay for a camouflage procedure, and which scars, if any, she can’t treat
- What makes the Basma Beauty The Foundation Stick - four years in the making - so #damngood, and why Basma The Cream Blush went viral
- Her best tips and remedies for helping to heal scars at home
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