Crown Shul

0:03Peter Rosenberg! Shout out to that guy, guys. The major stick. Oh, my goodness. It's professional wrestling. The king of 24-7. Steak yourself. I need him for 10. Confirm. Not mage. Stay mage and enjoy yourself.

0:27it's cheap heat with peter rosenberg featuring stat guy greg and dip oh you bet your bottom dollar ladies and gentlemen welcome to the world's number one sports and recreation podcast and radio show it's cheap heat live on this first weekend of November crown jewel weekend on WWE radio. I'm your forever 24 seven champion Peter Rosenberg and coming to you suited and booted fresh out of the courtroom. It's the physically strong and mentally dominant stack. I Greg. Hey, that's right. Just out the fresh out the courtroom. You know, another good day. You know, can't complain about stacking more dubs.

1:13Oh, yeah, of course. Of course you do what you do, bro. another good day by the way you were you're basically wearing the exact outfit that i will be wearing on the crown jewel um countdown and post show standard gray suit blackish tie very simple vibes this weekend yeah yeah it's it's navy blue i think in this light it's given some blackish vibes but you know you're just keeping it simple you're probably going to look better in it in your suit than i am looking right now thank you shout out to my dear friends at proper cloth uh i appreciate that uh dipperstein we we don't know where you're joining us from but welcome back to the program i'm in florida you're still in florida yeah some may call it crown shul i i don't think anyone is yeah i i there's not one i'm yet to hear anyone call it crown shul um are you moving to florida no i will not be moving to florida that is definitive i've decided that this week i will not be moving are you now in south florida I am and how long do you plan on staying in South Florida I'll be there for a couple more days are you going to make it by the time I get to Los Angeles we need to discuss that you're not going to make it I need you by you need to be there by Thursday morning I'll be there that's it what about Wednesday night now I got to wash the things and I got to do the stuff You know what?

2:39I don't. I got to make sure there's snacky, noshy things for you. By the way, I will be there one night where I get there at like one in the morning, put a sheet on your couch, and give me a blanket. I'll go to sleep. No. What type of Trader Joe's crap would you like me to buy for you? By the way, this is a good question, actually. I think my total time in your house will be from 1.30 a.m. to 1 p.m. not even 12 there's not enough time for Trader Joe's crap

3:18for everyone listening right now the reason that I am going to Dipper Lago very briefly is that I am very honored that I don't know if you've heard the news that starting right now on Sirius XM there is Wu-Tang radio that is the thing that is actually it is yesterday you heard the channel i heard the channel started yesterday yeah uh it is officially launched channel 509 uh wu-tang radio on sirius xm and airing next friday it's one week from today to you and me at 6 p.m eastern on wu-tang radio and also on rock the bells that's right i'm doing an interview with the entire clan the day before they go into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

4:08So I'm going out to Los Angeles, California to interview the Wu-Tang Clan, and they are so excited that I will have Dipperstein in tow. They can't believe it. Each member. Each one. Who is the most excited member of the Wu-Tang Clan? Tell me. Capadonna. Capadonna. I was going to say. Let me tell you. Capadonna and I go way, way back for years and years. He went, same Dipperstein? And I went, I don't know what you're referring to it. No, it's got to be. I said it's got to be. I said it's got to be. So for the record, I'm super stoked for this because I don't think I've ever, ever interviewed Cappadonna in any way.

4:51I've never interviewed the GZA. I mean, I've seen I've gotten at least I've never interviewed the GZA. I've had. Listen, I've dapped every member of Wu-Tang. I'm confident. but in terms of conversation i think jizza and capadonna i've never spent any real time with so is there a member that's there that's barely ever around that you're like well like is there cap cap is cap is certainly not always around um that member when he was alive was odb and the the whole thing you know because i'm of the age that i was going to wu-tang concerts like in college and stuff. The whole thing was when you went to a Wu-Tang concert, was ODB there?

5:34That was the immediate ask every time. You slash, I met you at a Wu-Tang concert. Wow. I forgot. Were they on that bill? They were on that bill. Yeah, they were headlining. I was introducing them. I remember watching them too. I remember the whole scene. And you saw me introduce them? Yes, I did. That was the moment when Zach and Ken, when our mutual friends said you're gonna meet that guy you're gonna like that guy and that's when you shook my hand with the jake the snake watch wow it all is about wu-tang who would have guessed that this wrestling story really goes back to wu-tang clan yeah now how about this i'm gonna thank capadonna when i see him you by the way you are 100 should you have to um a couple of items of business here Number one, guys, I don't know how you feel about this.

6:25I am getting a new dryer, and I am getting one specifically that has zero technology on it. I'm not doing any more of the sensors and the AI and the wife. I want one that I push the button and the heat goes on, and then when it ends, the heat goes off. That's all I want. Yeah, that's all you need. That's all you need. I have one of those. I'm thinking about getting one of the crazy ones that gives you a diet Coke. Is that a thing? Do you have an old school one that just buttoned in the heat? Let me tell you, I have the stacking one because that's the only room I had for it. I didn't want to put it in the garage.

7:10And Dipper Lago does not have a separate room for the washer dryer. By the way, all I do is underwear anyway. I'm only doing underwear and socks. That's it. Because you're dry cleaning all your dress. I dry clean everything else but underwear and socks. And recently I've been thinking about dry cleaning the underwear as well. My brother has checked in. I think there's a slight offense taken. First of all, he asked, will kill a priest be there? I do not know. I don't think so. And then he said, I introduced you to clowns. That's right. That's true. He was there. So he was the one. So at some point there was a Caroline said to Nick, these two should meet.

7:47And he said, oh, this is. Yeah, he was the actual handshake guy. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, because he knew. I don't remember the exact circumstance, but yes, that's true. Confirmed. I remember. That's the right amount of history. This was the LA Rock the Bells 2014? Yes. Wow. I wonder if there's merch dip. There could be merch with my name on it from that thing, which was kind of a legendary moment in time. Now, the two things I was dealing with was, number one, the dryer, and getting one that has – because the sensor keeps breaking, blah, blah, blah. And someone told me – he said, you know what? Just go get yourself an old-school dryer with no technology.

8:33You don't need any of it. It doesn't do anything except break. So, SGG, you have an old-school one? Yeah. It has, like, three buttons on it, but there's no sensors. You set the temp, you set the time, push the button, and that's it. Yours doesn't have a massager on it? Nah, not this one. And no sort of latte or cappuccino. No. Yeah, there's no espresso machine attached. So I'm trying to get the basement here together a little bit, and I found I was putting together a box of wrestling crap. My favorite kind of box. I mean, the amount of DVDs I have, I'm so dumb that when the network came out, I was like, well, I can just take all my DVDs and stack them up because I got the network forever Yeah, so now I have these incredible box sets, you know, I have every box set I have the Mania box set, Rumble box set, Summers, I have every one but they're all just like stacked DVDs.

9:32Sopranos box set? I have every Sopranos box set Yeah, me too. Every Six Feet Under box set So you don't even have them in the box anymore you just literally stack them in those tubes Okay, 75 to 80 % I'd say of the wrestling ones got slid into a CD book with their cover like with something in there like to know what it is but there's a lot of like the best of Roddy Piper you know the tables ladders chairs you know disc one through three it's just an endless amount of stuff and then I found a sealed VHS dip yeah sealed VHS called wrestling gold okay you want to see you want to see what a cover looks like of that is the bomb okay i like that already it says wrestling gold i'm gonna i have volume one was that the ring bell is that what we're looking at that's a ring bell sg good call wrestling gold it says a wrestling hall of fame video cassette series containing complete matches matches and action highlights each volume approximately 60 minutes i have volume one here are the matches dip I'd like you to rank them from repug to major okay great with everything in the middle okay SUG you as well number one the rock and roll express versus Randy Savage and Lanny Poffo Mage I feel like that could be wrestling gold I feel I feel like I don't even know what that means but that's number number two hulk hogan versus jerry lawler also made i don't like i can't i obviously i know they had matches all the stuff i've seen about lawler and all the stuff i've seen about hogan i've never seen a lot of hogan lawler memphis yeah i don't i don't really remember it all right what else uh nick bockwinkle versus Manny Fernandez.

11:33Major Day. Repug Plus? Yes. How about the Sheik versus Mark Lewin? A lot of blood, I'm sure, in that match. She has to be. Then you have David and Kerry Von Erich versus Gene Yates and Baron Krupp. Who are those Jo Bears? I don't know. I don't know exactly who those people are. The fabulous blonde. The fabulous blondes versus PYT express. I don't remember PYT express. No, me either. Who's in it? I don't know. Google it. I have no idea. Okay. And then the last one dip. You're going to love the last one. The road warriors versus Austin idol and Jerry Lawler. That sounds good to me. That's a comp.

12:23Now we're having a conversation. That sounds good to me, dude. How about this on SG on volume four? Coco beware. And Norville Austin were the pretty young things. PYT Express. So they literally just took the Michael Jackson song and made a tag team. You got the Rock and Roll Express. You get the PYT Express. I don't see what the problem is. Yeah. They were like, they were like, Rock and Roll is a thing of the past. Jack, it's all about PYTs. Exactly. on volume four the first match Austin Idol versus Jim Neidhart number two and this one gives me physical movement Junkyard Dog versus Butch Reed oh that's sexy oh yeah that is really something special that's something I could watch 10 ,000 times in a row King Kong Bundy versus Jerry Lawler come on dude Jerry Lawler versus Kamala let me say Jerry Lawler was getting that work where'd you get this who gave this to you I do not know it is sitting my basement has a lot of random things it was definitely given to me that's like something that a relative buys for you that like sees it one day in a store and says oh peter will love this no but in my case it was not a relative it was more likely uh some like you know someone in hip-hop or someone who's like oh i know you're into wrestling i saw this speaking of hip-hop isn't lil yadi collecting vhs's yeah should i gift him this yeah Tip is always thinking about the next gift to someone.

13:54I don't know. I kind of want to watch this. So watch it and give it to him like the old days. Like trading tapes, if you will. Yes. I want to give. I don't know Lil Yachty. Maybe at some point you can introduce me to him. But I have a couple of VHSs that I think he should see. I'd be happy to do that. I'm sure he'd be. But the thing is, he's getting to a point now. The people he was telling me. The what? The people that he was telling me are willing to give him their collections. He's not going to remember my wrestling gold VHS. Yeah. Maybe you're Peter Rosenberg. No, no, no. He's being gifted things from people who are psychotic.

14:35People who have let me put it this way. People who have VHS is that definitely just have unreleased direct feeds to Stanford VHS. You know what I'm saying? I would like to see those. this man has things up a storm. Speaking of Stanford, I will be there all day tomorrow taking in Crown Jewel. It sounds like, from what we can tell, guys, it'll just be four matches on the card. Short and sweet. I have to tell you, we're going to take our first break here in a couple of minutes, but I will tell you, I am, you know, Crown Jewel is what it is in terms of like, we talked about this last week, SGG. You kind of like drop these matches and stories in the middle of a season that's already kind of happening.

15:21And it makes it sort of complex. I am very excited, though, for Roman Sammy. I've loved seeing them together. And like, go ahead. Go ahead, Dip. No, no, no. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt. No, no, please. I was excited to hear what you were going to say. Please. I think the card is very good for the show. Yeah. I mean, it's very small, but it's very impactful. But like I would I'm more excited for Sammy Roman than I am for Randy Cody. But I feel like we're not just going to get a clean ending for Cody Randy. I think something is going on. I'm sensing something going on at the end of the day.

16:05I mean, it's a last man standing. It's a last man standing, right? So how clean is the last man standing going to be? We're going to get a definitive winner. I don't think we're getting a Cody clean. he's the guy that's standing. I don't see Randy Orton not being able to stand. Can you see that? You can't picture a world in which Randy Orton is no longer standing. He must stand. I could see them pulling the move where he's trying to stand up and then he collapses. This is the perfect time for Cody to punt him. We'll see if they do it. We did an ESPN crown jewel preview special and talked about that a lot like the whole thing has been set up like when you look at the way the story has been told Randy has literally told a story that is are you good or are you bad you're too good and that's why you won't punt me like they've literally set it up on TV in my opinion tell me if I'm wrong all right I'm happy to be be wrong 877 866.

17:13What's our number again? 867-5309. 344-4893. You get the idea. 281-330-800. 877-344-4893. I'm sorry. I have too many numbers. 1-800-223-9797. Oh, no. Sorry. Just call Paul Wall if you have any questions about the show. 877-344-4893. Tell me if I'm wrong. On TV, it feels to me that they have said if Cody punts Randy, he's a bad guy. I believe that's what they've said explicitly. No, of course not. But Randy keeps saying, you're a good guy. You're too good. A guy. You won't do it like to me. Now, SGG, that is completely living wiggle room to, to cop out of this and never pull the trigger on Cody because coming heel because as we've seen there unless we all know nothing about this whole thing it certainly feels like there's been back and forth on whether or not to pull the trigger right it is waffled so much from Wrestlemania season to now but the story when I was watching the highlight package Randy says it to him multiple times you're not gonna do it you're a good guy you won't punt me to me that says if he punts him he's bad we're thinking punt yeah no i think you're right yes punt is the heel turn you think the punt is gonna get is gonna turn him that's what i that's what the setup is at least punts we need two punts for the heel turn not just one punt no you're saying two punts i'm thinking two punts wow can you imagine now sgg two punts dip makes a good point though one punt you could go well he was bad enough to do it because he had to, not because he's a bad guy.

19:12That second punt, you're a terrible guy. That is a good point. I think punt, win, punt again, because then if he punts him after the win, he had no, like, there was no reason to punt him after the win. I would say that's good. Yeah, and I'm looking at the card, I feel like Is Gunther Finn Balor just not on the card? We're not doing anything with that? We got the demon last week for Halloween, and it's just... Let them build that a little bit. I like Gunther Finn Balor. I think that's crowned already. I think that's crowned already. I'm one of the biggest demon guys in the biz today. We know how you feel about the demon.

19:57You and the demon are, I mean, you're loving the demon. Yeah. All right, let's take a break. We asked a question. does punt equal bad for Cody Rhodes meaning if he connects on that with that punt to Randy Orton we officially have a heel Cody Rhodes coming back from crown jewel we'll talk about that uh the John Cena thing hey by the way has Stephanie's episode of I know I'm I know Dip does not know the answer to this but does Kelly or Zach know this has Stephanie's podcast with Rey Mysterio come out yet? Why wouldn't I know? I believe it came out. I've seen some rumblings about something that was announced.

20:40Okay, so the announcement's out? It's out. Oh, there's a great announcement in it. So I heard about this yesterday, and I was like, oh, my God, I can't wait, but I got to make sure that it's already out. Okay, so it's airing on our channel on Monday. You can hear it right here on WW Radio, Sirius XM Channel 93 Monday. but a bit of information came out in the episode that the three of us will particularly enjoy. So we'll get to that as well as your calls next right here. Cheap Heat live on a beautiful November weekend on WWE Radio. Stone Cold Steve Austin for 1-800-COLLECT. I'm not talking to you.

21:18What did I do? You're so insensitive.

21:23Dial zero when you called me last night. shouldn't have 1-800-COLLECT would have saved me a bundle I didn't think it makes me feel next time I use 1-800-COLLECT I didn't mean to hurt you me neither now 1-800-COLLECT or else by the way no offense you two are both pieces of shit yeah Zach and Diff right

21:54because i don't know i have nothing to do with whatever you want to say we did we did not get a patreon done this last week really i'm talking to myself it's not it's not well no i'm talking all three of us we we did not why am i in it because you didn't do anything to make it happen you were you didn't send the text like yo i'm here let's get it cracking today today's the day and and and and i blame you both because you know how inundated i was with child things around halloween you guys saw my instagram does she get the halloween yet i got i got news for you since you left a week and a half ago she has gone crazy this girl i whispered in her ear It's time to grow up, okay?

22:41By the way, I hate you because it's happening, and it's every day now is a new. She just says a sentence that you go or a word in context. Yesterday, I was going to Stanford to do the special, and I'm walking as I get to the door. I know this sounds little, but let me tell you, when it's never happened, it's not little. I'm getting to the door, and I look back at the room, and she goes, bye-bye, dada. First time ever. No awareness of me leaving ever previously. now it's a bye-bye dada when I almost fell on the floor and started did you make it out the door? I did I did because I was going to Stanford but how is that going to hit when I'm going to Perth?

23:22Let me tell you I get that but like if she would have said you know be careful on 95 dada then we're talking then we're that's real stuff right there bye-bye be careful on 95 there's a lot of traffic right now now that's a conversation what if she had said tell Joe Tess I say hi dad that now we're done you should just focus on having her say that what if she had said who's hosting Joe Tess or Jackie dad that that is a conversation worth having no but she just keeps adding it's hard to explain one every minute it's like a word pops up that you're like oh okay so halloween she started to get um she started to get it by the end uh we had a great time it was laura's uh daughter's sixth birthday yeah didn't you hang out with her like here or something which is very little yes like two yes didn't you didn't you stay over here at the same time was there was there a night when we all stayed here in Long Island?

24:37Yes. You brought a gift. I always bring a gift. You brought a great gift for the baby this time. I'm going to do better. The farm animals were a great gift. I have to tell you, Dip, it was a great improvement from your last gift. Your last gift was... What was it? It wasn't your best. See, I haven't done the big gift. Well, SGG, you know what his gift two gifts ago was? I know what it wasn't. What? It wasn't the framed 24-7 championship. What was the gift? He brought, they were like nice boxes. Oh, the box. I didn't love those. I didn't love the boxes. They were, SGG, it's like, you know how they say, oh, it's a little baby.

25:29You don't even need to bother with the gift. Just give them a box. Yeah. That's what this was. By the way, they were a fortune. By the way, and I could tell they were a fortune. They were. And I, by the way, I would imagine like that's like a Kim Kardashian gift is. You're probably right. Nice boxes that cost a fortune. That's it. Beautiful, expensive, empty boxes. We gave them to her. She didn't. But this, the farm animals. Oh, my God. Kids love figurines. They love figurines. She's loving the figurines. Natalie went back to Pennsylvania this week to buy more figurines found some sorry she yelled stop she doesn't want me to talk about it she didn't buy anything oh no yeah it never happened sorry she bought vintage she buys vintage Natalie is into vintage kids correct vintage kids what everything can't just say Natalie's into vintage kids this this little little people little people like who's the greatest wrestling baby ever Maya Jaden Rosenberg what no like on screen baby oh hold on I know Ricky Steamboat's good yeah well I mean that's the one that we saw but like that signaled the end yeah so I can't give it to him the baby was the end when we saw baby Steamboat by my Ricky yeah yeah You know, and I didn't.

27:01I was very beautiful. I mean, we have to be honest. Ricky Steamboat, if we're being completely honest, is one of the most sneaky, handsome pro wrestlers of all time. The man's an adonis. I think sneaky. Honestly, yes. If we're being totally truthful, it was the 80s and we are in racist America. And so he didn't get the sex symbol status he deserved. He was a gorgeous man. Ricky Steamboat jacked to the gills and like in a perfect way where he didn't he didn't have like a scary physique he had like a really nice looking if you woke up looking like Ricky Steamboat you go wow I'm a man yes yeah you don't go back to sleep so that you don't have to wake up looking like yourself I've never woke up looking like Ricky Steamboat can you imagine what would happen if prime Ricky Steamboat woke up and he had the body of one of the three of us immediate suicide yeah he's not even fighting through it not at all the question we asked to start the show and we're happy that you're here we hope you're having a great week is related to Crown Jewel the last man standing match between Cody Rhodes and Randy Orton which by the way has to be the end of this this has been going on since pre-WrestleMania and we are sitting here in November and then remind me guys as soon as we take these calls I'll pay off the tease with the announcement from the Stephanie podcast that I think we'll all be excited about that dip has apparently no idea about.

28:27And he has no idea, fortunately. Neither do you, Greg. You know what it is? Yeah. You'll find out. By the way, the way the little brother sound of the way he said, neither do you, Greg. You don't know what it is, Greg. Let's go to Brad in Colorado. Brad. Don't pretend like you know, Greg. If Cody punts Randy, is he bad? hi guys appreciate you taking the call thanks bud no i don't think that uh cody is bad we've got so many examples where uh baby faces do heal things but also in this situation with the emotion and everything riding on it i don't um and i wanted to ask you guys a question am i the only person that misses and would rather have baby face Randy where he was having all that fun with Kevin Owens and things like that and BTW the best baby ever was the hand I thought about the hand thank you for the call Brad listen I I was sure that Randy was on his way to like the most epic babyface run of his career, which is why I hated the whole Randy McAfee thing so much.

29:50I didn't understand. Randy, he was getting love from the crowd, man. Like, it was a different level. He had gotten this like next level legend appreciation babyface love, and now he's kind of back into hovering. Although, guys, I will say the promo on Monday felt babyface from Randy. To me, it's another It's another reason that the punt to me would feel so heelish. Let's go to Henry, who's not too far from me in Queens. What's up, Henry? Oh, how we doing? How we doing, fellas? Thanks for taking my call. Hey, Henry. This is not Henry. This is Henry. Yeah, well, however you want to slice it, fellas, I'm here for you.

30:34I'm curious.

30:38What is exactly a Cody heel turn look like to you guys? Who would be his first opponent? Kind of what, like, you know, book it. What do you guys think that would look like as far as you're concerned? That's a good question. You know what? That is a good question. Henry, well, I'll start. We know what it looks like, but SGG, from a booking standpoint, let's say Cody punts Randy into oblivion, knocks him off TV for a moment. on Monday when he goes on Friday the following Friday when he goes on TV on Smackdown who is the person who interrupts him and we are off to the races with with a heel Cody Rhodes the only person who can the person who acts so holier than thou every time he's in this baby face spot where he's like the guy that is supposed to be the conscience and the moral compass CM Punk punk yeah cody rhodes cm punk and then cody was like you know what i'm gonna just end you too i ended randy and you too and then cody goes on this run of just knocking out all bums the legend killer killer cody rhodes and then and then and then by the way also on smackdown you now have baby face you know baby face kevin owens as well oh he's next too right after he deals with punk that he wraps up KO too.

32:04It just, it has to happen. And by then you could have baby face Sammy. That could put us eight months out and Sammy could be back to baby face. Who knows? Then you got baby Sammy against Cody. It has to happen. It's got to happen. I'm tired of hearing the merch conversation. I'm just like, oh, he's the make a wish. The good guy. He'll still make wishes. Why does everyone feel like we're in the modern era? we're in the modern era but if he's a heel he can't still go do make a wish and be a good guy in some ways he can we just need to be a bad guy he'll make less wishes probably he'll probably make less yeah because they won't want him as much for now but then when he's a baby face again they'll want him more than ever but yeah exactly and that merch conversation i feel like it's dead because roman reigns has been a terrible guy for the better part of the last six years since the pandemic and who's moving the most merch who's generating the most bread as they say who's who's at the top of the food chain with that so i think i think the cody merch is still gonna move he probably won't be able to sell everything and put the logo on a sticker and then do all that coffee mugs and all that things that he does now little bookmarks and and pencil case holders but the cody merch will still move

33:26i think he needs to dye his hair black you know start wearing dark clothes yes and you know damn well that that logo is on uh school binders and that logo is everywhere it's on erasers cody sells everything he might have to sell a little bit less of it but he's still gonna move much it would be like a Hogan NWO it needs to happen it's gotta happen I think I think now I think this is the time I know there's always later this would be this is the moment people are ready there's a lot of chatter got and like we need some listen 946 had people very excited for a few weeks and that is now easing into normalcy to would we agree like we're used to 946 they're a faction now there's a thing we're still learning who they are but like it's not the same as the first three weeks where you're like oh my god what's happening we know what's happening it is a thing that's cool but we still need more there's there's a lot of tv every week and a lot of ple's we have a survivor series in three plus weeks we have perth two weeks after that then you head into royal rumble season i'm sure there's a sg there's probably a main event somewhere in early january whatever there's a lot of stuff to do a lot of TV to fill Cody Rhodes as a heel makes the entire product the first time when when Roman and I understand Roman's not quite a baby face not quite a heel he's just the guy right that first time Cody's music hits on a raw episode as a heel to interrupt Roman oh you remember when Paul do you remember the episode that the three of us did yeah when Roman finally joined Heyman.

35:14Oh, yeah. And the excitement and the craziness that, I mean, it felt like the whole everything got just a jolt right in its arm. Yep. The business immediately. That's what will happen if it changed the business literally until now. So Cody as a bad guy could reshape so many things. By the way, what about the bad guy with Heyman? He is the it's all there for you, Mr. Heyman. You know, he loves Mr. Heyman. oh my god that's what has to happen just run the same play yes it's a great play any play with heyman is a great play you know how i feel so so if you oh my if hey because because they can do this you'll turn for cody you could do the punt thing but people are still unclear on whether it means turn and then you see him with heyman like you run that back oh it would be magnificent that's wrestling two things though go ahead cody and hayman no faction just cody and hayman yes i think the reaction thing gets two out of hand no faction just cody hayman that's number one number two if you're wwe are you a little hesitant for the cody heel turn because of what happened with the cena heel turn i hear people say you know dip said it's it's like Hollywood Hogan-esque.

36:36It's massive. The people have been waiting for it. It happened. They literally just made a mistake turning Cena heel. I don't think they made a mistake turning Cena heel. I would have liked to have seen it go forever, but sorry. I mean, sure, but did it pan out how we wanted it? Let's be real. No. We love John Cena. Cody's still in his prime, but he's still an active every week person on doing every single show. So no, I don't think you can compare it to Cena. It'll feel less deliberate than the Cena thing. If they do it now, if they wait three years, then it will become that. Yes. You know, like it won't be ten years too late.

37:17It'll be five years too late. Cena was what? Legit ten years too late, right? They did in 25. It was ten years too late. He would be an incredible heel. Incredible. He's so heelish. By the way, he will be better as a heel. And he's great as a babyface. I think he'll be an even better heel. Agreed. let's take one more from George before the break George on Long Island your thoughts how you been George hey what's going on guys doing good when Pete gives you the announcement you're gonna love it bro we're talking mage of all levels of mage it's at the top right now he's overdoing it but it's it's George so we gotta let him listen George George, you get everything you want.

38:05You deserve it all. I appreciate that. No, I do not think the punt makes him a heel. Let's go back in decades of wrestling history. When the heel tells you, you're not going to hit this move on me, you can't hit this move on me, what happens? He hits the move on him, and it's lights out. It's one, two, three. except this time they're going to count to 10. I think this match ends with the punt, but I don't think it makes him a bad guy at all. And, yeah, that's basically it. The last thing I got for you guys is two weeks ago when I called you, you asked who I felt would be the best, you know, to add to 946.

38:49Man, I wish I was at the Barclays. I was so mad that I was watching from home. You nailed it, dude. Yeah, you did. George, you'll be happy. George, you'll be happy to know that the second it happened, in the original Cheap Heat chat with the three of us and Emilio, your name was immediately invoked by Emilio and SGG that George called it. So you should feel good about that. And there's a post on Instagram with your voice providing the soundtrack. Yeah, it's there. Oh, really? I do follow the Cheap Heat podcast on Instagram. I didn't see that. I'll have to look that up now when I get home. There you go, buddy.

39:29No, you called it. Great call, buddy. You nailed it. And we didn't even get to that. We will. Thank you for the call. It's a fair point you're making. I am wishing that you are wrong and that the punt equals heel. I have a counterpoint though also what he's talking about is like oh you can't hit your finisher move or you can't hit like a big move think about like the moments where Cena was in this exact position right and they're like will Cena go to the dark side and do this thing will he use this weapon will he and the answer was always no I think about Cena and Bray Wyatt right he threw down the chair he didn't succumb to the evil had he used the chair cena bad he didn't so he stayed good and he stayed good for far too long as we said so if cody actually succumbs and hits that punt that will be the equivalent of cena using that chair and that means cody bad i i i like your logic don't forget he is a lawyer folks he just he just won a case seconds ago.

40:35All right. All right, Dip. I'm going to pay it off now. Rey Mysterio went on Stephanie McMahon's podcast, What's Your Story?, which you can hear here on WWE Radio on Monday, and told her that they have officially announced that at Survivor Series War Games, there will be a traditional five-on-five Survivor Series match, Team Mexico versus Team USA. I love traditional Survivor Series matches I believe can you do the stat on this I think it's like 6 or 7 years I'll get you that stat I think it is 6 or 7 years though and then we have to speculate on who can be Ray will be a competitor by the way on Team Mexico wow which by the way is he kind of should be on Team USA I feel like Dom should be on Team USA if Ray's going to do Team Mexico but but that said i think ray will be on team mexico because i guess it will be i guess it will be a triple a is mostly team mexico yeah so i'm guessing who's psycho clown you're sensing psycho clown i'm sensing psycho clown i'm a big psycho clown guy mini vikingo i would love some i would love omos on team mexico mr iguana oh mr iguana has to be we need mr iguana listen i'm just glad they're finding a place for a traditional survivor series match um i was having a conversation yesterday about the traditional survivor series match versus war games match etc and someone suggested what if there was an event it seems like there are certain things in wrestling that are cool but lose their zhuzh what if there was like an event in wrestling that we treated like the World Cup or the Olympics and it only happened in WWE every two or four years could be kind of neat yeah that could be war games honestly what could be worse than if I were at a meeting SUG if I were in a creative meeting and I made the suggestion I just made what could be worse than the way Dip responded nothing maybe silence maybe silence would silence be worse or would you hope oh they didn't hear me let me say it again that has to be better than someone going yeah it was like slightly more enthusiastic than that but not enough to be actual enthusiasm and in the case of Dip you always know it's 50 % he doesn't like it 50 % he wasn't listening that's what makes it hurt that's what makes it hurt even more but think about it like yes Survivor Series traditional matches are kind of stupid if you do them too often yeah and the last one was in 2021 Survivor Series 5 years okay if you did them every 5 years like it was a thing cool now we were watching some highlights of old stuff I'll S-U-G I want to just I want to just set dip off right here okay how much do you miss dip when you would just get to see teams competing in those team raw and team smackdown t-shirts oh

44:04when you go back and you see highlights of like Alexa Bliss versus Charlotte Flair who had a great match in like 2018 and they're both wearing the team raw and team smack It is the dumbest. That whole team thing with these shows that don't compete was always, it was always a major problem. It was, as Michael K would call it, it was always half pregnant. Like, do the shows compete? Are they the same? Oh, some years the people go on both shows, some years you can't. It never made any sense. But all of this to say, excited that there will be some sort of traditional Survivor Series match. and and i do like too speaking of the team raw team smackdown i like that they pulled the champion versus champion stuff and gave it a different a different place for that so crown jewel doing a champion champion champion versus champion match i think is way better than it being at survivor series especially now that they have war games on top of that yeah and and the uh of course the crown jewel match i do sort of wish that like there were there were more stakes than the crown jewel Championship.

45:16By the way, can we talk about the size of the Crown Jewel Championship? Yeah, it's gargantum. It is. I kind of love that title. The Crown Jewel Championship is so big that if a female superstar did a nude photo shoot in the Crown Jewel Championship, it wouldn't even be controversial. Yeah. It covers your entire torso. I've never seen anything like it in my entire life. Dip, you like it? Yeah, I do. You know what? You should get one and get it framed in your house. If Dip had the title, we could do a new photo shoot. By the way, I could get that done in like a week. It's nothing. No, getting a title framed is really something very simple that I could get done right away.

46:03In absolute no time. Let me ask you guys.

46:10Do you guys think there'll be Michigan this at crown jewel or do you think like it's kind of all pretty straightforward with they run the show they come back and i could look well roman reigns is never losing never he's never gonna feel like i think this is one for him to lose he's not losing dude title's not on the line yeah i i do think that's a i do think there is a little something to not losing sammy he beat sammy in montreal right title on the line but sammy a godlike figure in Canada and had to lose to Roman in Canada. Sammy's second home is Riyadh. I'm not saying that everybody at home has to win on their home turf, but he can't take two away games from Sammy in two different spots.

47:00Like Sammy got to – and this is a completely different version of Sammy, a more ruthless Sammy. We saw Sammy kick his head off at the end of the night. Sammy got to get one-two. And this is one to give because it costs him nothing. That did cross my mind. If you find a way to have him get it, obviously it would not be like Huluva kick one, two, three. I don't think. No. No one's suggesting Roman. I mean, Sammy just hits him with Huluva kick and pins him in the middle of the ring. But if something happens and Sammy were to get a win, it would add a lot of intrigue and it would give Sammy something.

47:36While Roman, you could do it in a way where Roman loses very little. yeah and this has been a sammy zane who's been he's this is second title run and this is the one where he's trying to prove himself right he's he's talking about how he's among the best of the best whether people really believe it or not i don't know i'm becoming a believer but he's collecting mad feathers for the cap across this run what's another feather for the cap b beat roman reigns for the crown jewel championship and etch his name in history and again roman loses nothing

48:14um i would love to see that also i kept i couldn't help but think the other day guys um when roman called sammy a garden tool deservedly so too well i don't know why would you say that now you want problems with sammy i don't want any problems sammy would respect garden tool greg sammy would respect me telling the truth why would you call him that because that's what he was acting like this in that moment they were just having a conversation this is before the halluva kick yeah but you know they're trying to have a conversation they were they were trying to see all right well now you just made the list i'm not i'm not saying that What I was going to say was, I can't imagine Sammy loved that.

49:03This is the same guy who, when Trick told him his breath stank in the ring, got headbutted. I do not sense that Sammy loved Roman calling him a garden tool in the middle of the ring on Monday Night Raw. Listen, this is a Sammy who want people to bring it. If you're going to be on the mic across from me, you got to bring it. I'm not saying that Roman necessarily brought it by immediately going for the garden tool. But Sammy got to respect that he wanted some fire out of these people. He got it. But this was all why I, you know, maybe I feel differently now that Sammy took advantage of the 946 thing and hit Roman with the huluva.

49:43Maybe that's a setup that it's just a one, two, three. But don't you think, Dip, it does a slight disservice to the whole Sammy thing? if all they do is go to crown jewel and roman just kind of beats him the same way as last time or easier i don't know like that would be a disservice to what we're trying to do i think it would be a disservice to sammy's name like i think sammy listen man sammy's given sammy is giving you entertainment every time you see him on the mic or in the ring yeah he is who he said he is like let's be real sammy is who he said he is and maybe all these years he was a team player happy to just do he gotta do play the role maximize his minutes but i like this version of sammy that is he's in his like show and prove era like i'm gonna say it and i'm gonna do it and it's just nothing anybody else could do and what i what i love about their story is that rope they're both telling the truth yeah roman saying you would never have that title if it wasn't for what we did together and what I did for you, whatever, however he frames it, that is true.

50:50And when Sammy says, yeah, and me being with you was the best part of the bloodline, both are probably true. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, look, I would call it one and one A, right? Because it's hard to Roman, evil Roman at the peak of the bloodline's powers. That was the driving force. but it definitely needed Sami on the other side the the is feeling Usy the the the trial of Sami Zayn he's using Sami to manipulate the Uso and he gave him the shirt and he got all those reactions out of Jay Sami turning on KO in the war games match you needed all of that you know I think about when they were in the cage and the cage door opens and Jimmy is gonna run in to join And Sammy stops him?

51:41No, Roman stops Jimmy. Oh, Roman. And what does he do? He makes Sammy go in? They played off each other so well that you're right. They are both telling the truth. What they're saying is true, but neither one of them can take full credit because anybody else in those roles, it doesn't work as well as they work together. But when you go back in the packages that you'll see tomorrow before the match, when they show the highlights of Sammy in the bloodline bro I legit lol every time I see them the him dancing in the background like that when he first started putting the ones up the like looking around and just trying to put his one up like it was all it was just comedic brilliance and it really did elevate the whole thing and Sammy brought so much out of J the J you could argue that the J character never gets to where it gets to if you don't have there the dynamic there so like I do love that between Sammy and Roman even though this story kind of popped up out of nowhere and they'll both get back to whatever they're doing next obviously Roman will deal with the 946 and Sammy will do whatever Sammy's gonna do next um it's also gonna be interesting now to see where Sammy goes next and what happens on Smackdown next obviously we're on WWE radio so I do feel weird talking about the tapings from Monday that everybody already knows the results to but they didn't air yet I don't know the results you don't know?

53:18I don't either. No I didn't pay attention to this. Oh okay perfect well by the way thank you guys for justifying why I feel weird saying it so I won't but after you watch Smackdown tonight and you see where things go at the top of the men's division on SmackDown, it is interesting to think about what could be next for Sami. Do we get something new? Do we something? There's something going on tonight? Something's up? Well, there's a big match tonight, and there's a result. It's a big match. It's a big match between big stars with a clean finish and a result that will impact where things go next for Sami because it's the two of the top guys.

53:58Well, this match was announced so we can say it. It's Kevin Owens and CM Punk. I know that. Kevin Owens and CM Punk have a big match. Obviously, you saw Kevin Owens get involved at NXT a couple days ago. So it's a cool little direction where things are going, but it'll be interesting to see where we go with Sammy now. Sammy got the title off of Cody the first time, then off of Punk, but where does he go to keep this thing moving for Sami Zayn? Like, I'm ready to see what this title reign really looks like. And this sort of Roman thing, that's why I know it's like, it's a really fun story, but it's an aside from what the Sami title reign is.

54:48And that's why it's important that the finish be the right way. You can't have him just go straight job to Roman. Yeah. He's got to go back and be the champ on SmackDown. I know, I know. It should be Sammy and KO. That would be fun again. I'm ready for that again. When did we see that last? I can't believe I'm hearing Dipp say those words. Can you ask you, Jay? I cannot. Because I don't know. Repeat feuds? Yeah, just because it's the ultimate. I mean, it is the, you look up repeat. But I mean, I feel like we did be done Punk and Sammy. Yeah. I mean. We just did Punk and Sammy. Whatever hasn't been done the last, you know, whatever the amount of time has, the longest time has passed.

55:33Let's do that. Well, but guess what? Guess what? It'll probably happen. What? Cody won't turn at Crown Jewel and it'll be Cody Sammy. Okay. I'm not making the rules. I'm just predicting based on what I've seen in the past. we have to also wonder will there be a cash in of any sort this weekend obviously you know Penta's in a tag title match both champs are there there's always the possibility of that should win both championships at the event no how about this how about this Penta wins the tag title cash is in and wins both world titles so he has every single title there is to be love it Love it.

56:24Penta Schmenter. Penta is the man, dude. All right, we take a break. Talk to you guys more. 877-344-4893. Also, why not open up the mailbag to RosenbergWrestling at gmail.com if you're not able to call but you want to reach out about anything going on in the world. We'll talk to you guys that way as well. RosenbergWrestling at gmail.com. More Cheap Pete on the way on Cheap Pete Live on WWE Radio. Kurt Angle on the road to WrestleMania. It's true. I work hard by using intensity, integrity, and intelligence to help get me here. But now, 1-800-CALL-ATT for collect calls is giving some undeserving fan a chance to go to WrestleMania?

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57:47But sure. Zach, do you have access to the mailbag drop by any chance? You've got mail. No. The other one. The real one. Mail. Wow. That guy's good. All right. Crocker J says, hey, Pete and the gang. First off, let me start by saying I'm a sock guy. I tell everyone on Christmas and my birthday, buy me socks. They think I'm kidding. I'm not. I think putting on a brand new pair of socks is the best feeling in the world I'm serious this stems from a childhood of little money and having to wear socks with holes in them there are a few things more annoying the little money with the socks what did dip do?

58:33it wasn't like a lack of money it was just like what did dip do? it was an ill-timed laugh it had nothing to do with that there are a few things more I have a lot of socks with holes in them it don't matter you scrunch them down you abuse them anyway shut up everyone there are a few things more annoying than putting on a pair of socks and blowing a hole in them oh by the way when Ric Flair said his shoes cost more than my house it was probably true but I digress don't laugh Greg that's ill timed dip is right about the socks in one scenario no if you are out and about in gym type shorts with all white socks on, you can scrunch them down.

59:19But that is it. If your sock has logos or pics on them all the way up, how else is everybody going to know that I love Ninja Turtles in the Chicago Bay? Lastly, I actually have some Bray Wyatt socks that I put on one time and my leg stretches face beyond recognition. Maybe we can get them socks to some lucky peckerhead who loves Bray out there. Pick attached. Well, anyways, thanks for your attention on this matter. Oh, and I see these are dope, actually. These Follow the Buzzards Bray Wyatt socks. They're awesome. So he's okaying the scrunching for white tube socks if you're wearing shorts. If you're wearing gym shorts.

1:00:02If you're wearing shorts, you clearly don't. I do not believe in pulling your socks all the way up. now is my preferred look going to be scrunching them down no i'm wearing i'm wearing short socks right or if and if you have long socks you just gotta hit the fault you gotta fold it don't i've never i've never folded a sock i've i've had to i had to fold a sock well you have and by the way sgg the length of leg you're dealing with i mean it's like the size of dipristine completely i've had to fold a sock but scrunch is out no but by the way you know what you do sgg if you're wearing like medium length socks and shorts which i'm not afraid to do as an adult what you do is i'm not scrunching i may push them down a bit so they're not pulled completely tight but the idea of scrunching scrunching is i by the way electric articles of clothing i think i'm done with shorts basically um it's the short thing is over for me by the way well no no but you wear you wear um You mean real shorts?

1:01:02Yeah. I agree. I got to tell you, though, I love this take from Dip. In the last couple of years, I only have time for knit shorts and long pants. Yeah. Like regular, everyday shorts, it's done. By the way, I am stealing this Dip. Do you mind if I steal this? It depends where you're going to use it. I want to make this a crusade. Like no khaki shorts, no like real shorts. Like you're trying to still dress kind of nice in shorts. It's over. Yeah. And Pete, I know Dip hasn't fully given you his blessing, but I'm going to weigh in here and say that you have to be the one. You have to be the flag bearer on this.

1:01:49You have to lead the crusade because Dip holding the flag and then also waving the flag for scrunch socks and some of his other psychotic takes. And volunteering to clean the Airbnb. Yeah. A legitimately good take. I'm not on my hands and knees scrubbing the floor, but I'm taking out the trash. The disgusting trash. I'm sorry a legitimately good take that deserves the love and support of people who are actually going to take this thing where it needs to go it's not getting there in Dip's hands so P I don't know what Dip is going to say you got to take this take though don't even ask for permission you just got to take it how about this one pair left of shorts one listen I've gotten into having like nice like sort of nice knit shorts but they're still different than shorts but they're casual they're still casual they're gym shorts but they're like nice gym shorts they're nice gym shorts how about how about this get the drop ready there for one more quickly Zach we have a message here from Kevin mail Peter SGG dip and the CH crew I want to say something hear me out I must defend dip if you surveyed listeners I am willing to bet that most would rather wear scrunch socks than listen to Kid Rock.

1:03:21I think you missed this week, the week I admitted the guilty pleasure of enjoying all summer long. Are you kidding? You know how I felt about Kid Rock. Well, that's why, don't ruin how I'm going to end this email. Scrunch socks would not even be on the Mount Rushmore of abhorrent things over Kid Rock. anyone giving dipshit over scrunched socks and admitting to listening to that poor excuse for an entertainer needs to look in the mirror he's talking to you stay mage and enjoy your socks Kevin in Kalamazoo enjoy your socks enjoy your socks is very mage now here's the thing you are right Kid Rock is worse than scrunched socks that's why I said guilty pleasure I was saying I was being literal I have legitimate guilt.

1:04:09I don't like that I like all summer long, but I do. And guess what? And guess what? Your whole point is ruined because this fucking guy loves Kid Rock. So how about that? I love Kid Rock. Yes. Yeah. The guy defending you saying go for the scrunch sock because you like Kid Rock. No, I don't. I said it's a guilty pleasure. Scrunch sock man over here thinks he's like, you know, Jerry Garcia. I do like Kid Rock's music that's the only thing I like about Kid Rock by the way you should be specific you liked one era of Kid Rock a very long time ago let me tell you my favorite wrestling montage of all time was we've talked about it a million times it was not Limp Bizkit Lonely Road of Faith the 2002 Lonely Road of Faith montage where the NWO came back That's the most profound wrestling montage.

1:05:07I have a question, Pete. When you called him Scrunch Sockman, was that like he's a superhero or is it because he's Jewish? He's Sockman.

1:05:21Sockman? Like his last name is Sockman? Yeah. His name is Scrunch Sockman. Is that what you mean? you know scrunch stockman over here yeah neither neither it's certainly not a superhero okay but the point is it was to this to kevin in kalamazoo a great guy listen just to be clear i said guilty pleasure and remember sgg came forward and said oh no i don't know if this way to the air sgg texted me later and said thank you for having this stupid tune in my head all day after playing all summer long on the show. Oh, yeah, he did play it. It gets stuck. It's an earworm. I didn't say I liked it as much, but it will get stuck in your head.

1:06:08Is it a toe tap? Yeah, it might be some toe tap. You can toe tap. But no, I agree. You're right. Kid Rock is more a pug than Scrunch Socks. I've never, the last week and a half, I have never hated Kid Rock more. So you could not be, by the way, tough week for Kid Rock. He might have to move out of Michigan. We wish him well. Wherever he goes. He's off to Nashville. So long. He ain't going to Texas. He ain't going to Texas. Texas got spanked. What was your favorite joke? Your favorite joke on Tuesday night Twitter. Do you have a favorite? The Knicks beat the Spurs so bad. Texas is blue. Yeah, I thought that would be your favorite.

1:06:53The Knicks whooped the Spurs. The what? But mine was – oh, Kelly doesn't like that. She hates the Knicks. Wait, Kelly, are you a Spurs fan? Is that what you are? No, you're not. You just hate the Knicks. I'm a Heat fan and a Knicks hater. Knicks hater first, Heat fan second. Well, that's such a crazy thing that you're such – I've never met such a devout Knicks fan, a Knicks hater like that. I hate the Knicks so much. I would have accepted the Heat never winning a championship again so long as the Knicks never won one again. How could it be? Why? I have problems. I'm not well. I get it. Why, SGG?

1:07:30They only won for the first time last year. What's the point of Hades? As a 90s Knicks fan, it has been fuck the Heat since like 93. So I get it. I have no offense to Kelly. She's a Heat fan. She doesn't like the Knicks. She won't. Their fans are the worst, dude. They're the worst people on the history of the world. You are from Philadelphia. They're beating people up just for wearing jerseys. I can't. I can't. Bro, if you hate Knicks fans because they act like Knicks fans. They win one game in the first round, and it's like, holy shit, let's throw a parade. Like, calm down. Now, listen. Have you seen Broad Street after games?

1:08:09I know. No, listen. That's after Super Bowls, not regular games. No, but they literally have to grease the poles in Philly. I mean, people were eating horse poop. I saw someone eat horse manure. Would you rather do that or have somebody almost die from a Knicks fan? It depends. First of all, I believe the Knicks did die celebrating a random win last year, by the way. He fell off one of his pleased poles. Probably had a good time beforehand. R.I.P. R.I.P. Well, listen, in closing on the subject of Knick hating, as GG, I will tell you, the Philly fans, and I'm sure you've heard it plenty, they love being like, the Knicks fans are the worst.

1:08:50It's like someone gave them a pass to finally not be the worst fans in the world, and they are running with it, and I truly respect it. How do we get to the – how do we even get to the Knicks fans? And Kelly being a – You asked about his Tuesday thing. Kid Rock. Kid Rock. Oh, your favorite – dip, thank you. Your favorite joke was the Knicks beat San Antonio so bad it turned Texas blue. Mine was breaking. the national anthem has been replaced by pink pony club

1:09:25that and and they've officially renamed chat gbt chat lgbtq that to me was another big i popped big like all of the jokes of like woke is back and you can't say like i just find them all hilarious and i'm super into it um all right folks uh there is an event coming up this weekend It's called Crown Jewel. And we spent a lot of time focused on Cody and Randy and will he or won't he when it comes to Cody Rhodes punting Randy Orton. We spent a lot of time talking about Roman Reigns and Sami Zayn. I would like to present to you that I think the tag match has major implications for a gentleman who we all know and love named Bron Breaker.

1:10:12Who I believe is at this moment in time. We all agree. I think the three of us are in lockstep that bronze mic work is the best it's been. Yes. And do we all agree he has like the potential to be future world champion? The man, all of it. Yep. Yeah, of course. So would you also agree then that at some point here he needs to do something like we need? yep I don't know what that performance is but like him taking an L here and getting pinned by Javon Evans or Penta and losing the tag titles like we are in a moment unless unless what we need him to do is lose the tag titles and have a breakup and get him away from the vision what is the path to getting Braun Breaker the most hot and interesting SGJ I think you just hit the nail on the head.

1:11:07He drops these titles, drops the vision and just tears through the roster. I think that's, I think that's what he needs to do. I'll stop. Let's just, I'll take a breakup with the vision for getting tearing through the roster. Let's start with stage one of, of him having an interesting story with, with, with Bronson Reed or, you know, or, or, you know, Maxine and Austin theory. Let's figure something out with the, with the, with these people tear through the roster doesn't necessarily mean he has to go on like a goldberg like streak where he's undefeated and he's squashing people but he needs to string together some standout performances and show everybody that he can be the guy i mean you can argue he's already done that but i think they need to re show us that agree well but what do you do he has he but does he if you break him up with the vision, who's the good guy?

1:12:02Who's the bad guy? I don't know. I don't know. Someone should figure that out. The good guy is whoever the good guy is whoever is turned on it. Nah, if he breaks up with the vision he's the good guy. If they dump him, he's the good guy. I think he's the good guy either way. Because wherever Logan Paul goes, those guys are the bad guys. This is not a scenario where When is Logan Paul healthy? When is I know it doesn't it feel like it's been absolutely forever forever. I feel like it has to be soon. I miss him. It was the top of the beginning of the year. I miss Logan Paul. You mean wrestling because he's been on TV.

1:12:41Yeah, I miss him wrestling. By the way, can you believe it? All these injuries have happened over the years and we've always complained about why can't people just stay on TV when they're injured? Like, why do you need to go away? And the guy who did it is Logan Paul. I know. I think about it every time I see him. He never left. They did a pretty bad week. Yeah, it's a serious price. It's bad. He he did a mic'd up this week on Raw. That you'll see on the countdown show tomorrow, dude. Even when he's just around the ring, he's always good. He's good. He like I would. I would love for someone who knows wrestling better than me to tell me what Logan Paul is missing because I don't see a lot.

1:13:28no I would like to see Breaker and Logan Paul that's something so then it would have to be maybe they drop the titles this weekend and you see the rest of the vision turn on Braun I don't think so I don't know man where's Paul Heyman he's not he's not back in the mix I don't think so why not this happening it doesn't feel like it's happening can we get him back in the mix on TV in some way. I miss him. He's on TV. Not in the last, he wasn't on Raw. Was he not on Raw this week? He hasn't been, he doesn't have a real story going on. Yeah, he was with Bronson against Oba at Money in the Bank, right?

1:14:18Yes, I believe so. Was he with Braun for the Money in the Bank match or no? I don't think so. No. I don't know. I don't know. it feels like he's not on TV to me well there's a lot of people not on TV by the way Oba hasn't been on TV for a couple of weeks no Paul Heyman hasn't been on TV a couple of weeks are you saying that no no no although they're clearly they clearly keep hinting at the Oba Paul Heyman relationship that is clearly like a thing that's hovering they need you to know that Paul has the utmost respect for Oba. Can you believe we have a PLE this weekend without Obafemi? Only the second.

1:15:05This is the only second PLE without Oba since he showed up. And back in the day, that would not be that impressive a feat when every PLE had like eight, nine matches. But considering now they have four or five, it is pretty impressive that he's always there until this one. yeah no that is like they they needed them though him and brock man they they had they didn't have a bad performance together at all i wouldn't keep them off the card i do uh want to get to a couple of uh phone calls and emails here rosenberg wrestling at gmail.com 877-344-4893 we have about seven minutes here to close things out also sug because i know you care deeply about my travel plans i have booked my travel for perth australia oh is it legit though you oh come on there's only one way to go when you're going to Perth, Australia.

1:15:55And I am going a different direction. I am going the shortest path possible. I don't know which one that is. Anybody have a guess? If I'm making one stop between here and Perth, can anyone geographically guess where I'm stopping? And by the way, if you were to figure it out, it would give away the airline as well because the airline is named after that place. But it's not going to be your first guess New Zealand no it's a terrible guess New Zealand terrible guess because New Zealand is too close I think it's too close to Australia there's a New Zealand Airlines isn't there I don't know maybe sure let me check there has to be I think you're going the other way though right you said Air New Zealand they've got a sale right now dip is it$35 ,000 one way?

1:16:56By the way, some of them. Zach is close, but he's not right. Okay, that's the direction I was going. I was going to say Hong Kong. You are also close. But that would be, but Hong Kong would be Cafe Pacific. And I am going on Singapore air. You're going to Singapore? Singapore. That's right, Dip. What are you going to do in Singapore? I'm going to walk through the airport and get on another plane. It's amazing. How much time do you have in the airport? I think like 90 minutes, two hours, not long. Not enough. I thought you were going to just do a little two-day gallivanting in Singapore. A little Singapore shmai.

1:17:40Shmaiapore. You do have to be careful in Singapore. You don't want to do anything remotely illegal in Singapore. Fun fact for the wrestling fans, the kendo stick was originally referred to in ECW as Singapore cane because a gentleman I think he did graffiti or something like that yes it was caned and he was caned and Paul Heyman thought that was so hilarious that he said this needs to be a weapon in wrestling and called it the Singapore cane match and now we have the kendo stick yes Paul Heyman man I'll tell you but Dip, would you like me to bring you back a Singapore cane? I would love that. Done.

1:18:20And guess what? I'll frame it. Let's take a call. Let's go to Reggie. I know a guy that does it in a week. He'll have it done. Cheap, too. Easy. Yeah. By the way, right by your house. Let's go to, by the way, good guess there. Zach guessed Malaysia. Very close. Let's go to Reggie in O-Town, Orlando. Reggie, what up? Hey, you know, I was thinking, talking about the vision and giving something good. to make him interesting. One of the main things has been to beat Obafemi. What if Logan Paul, he's sort of the, I guess, manager kind of guy now because of his injury. He brings in Ricky Saints, and Ricky Saints has beaten Obafemi and gone to war with him.

1:19:02Sort of like when an NFL team might pick you up, you know, after you've been released to get something on you, you know, on the team you're about to play. And I'm surprised they haven't done something like that yet because Ricky Saints has beat this man. You know what, Reggie? Thank you for the call, man. I'll tell you this. The reason I would love the idea of doing something like that is twofold. One, Ricky Saints is incredible and needs something to do. Like, let's just, you know, I need Ricky Saints to have a story that matters. And two, it would potentially give the vision something. I don't see this happening.

1:19:40And I think, frankly, on the main roster, if I were to guess, they are going to want us to forget that Ricky Saints ever beat Obafemi. Yeah, I don't think it even comes up. I don't think anyone's mentioning that these days, which is a bummer for... Natalie just gave me the most Jewish mother dip. Did she moon you again? The same woman who mooned me last hour. This hour sees that I left the Popcorners bag open, picks it up, looks at me, and goes, lip because I'm on the radio so she doesn't say it out loud just gestures open it you close it this is the same person who's throwing things all over the ground at an Airbnb and walking out the door that's me because you're a filthy guy what can I say let's go to the mailbag do you have the mailbag drop over there LC wrote us we're happy for Ethan Page mail by the way very happy for Ethan Page I told you guys I think when I went to that live event both Ethan and Ricky were so good as big time heels it's great to see Ethan getting something man he's super talented and I'd love to see more with him and Chad Gable I hope it's the beginning this is a tough message guys but we're going to have to suffer through it the three of us together just wondering if there's been any update on the next Patreon episode mentioned on the October 24th podcast a time frame of a week to nine days following the October 23rd broadcast was mentioned so I was curious if it's still in the works also I enjoy the bonus content however the weekly bonus episodes are no longer happening so the description in the membership tiers does not accurately reflect what's being offered has there been any consideration to reviewing what the tiers offer and updating the descriptions to better reflect the current iteration of the show this is the most polite and appropriate message of all time.

1:21:39We appreciate that. We're going to do one next week. We'll do one next week for sure. It's time. We'll do one this weekend. No, it has to happen this weekend, Dip. I'll try. Drop anchor and make it happen. We will try. SGG, what about like Saturday night, SGG? crown jewel recap we could get it done yeah what about what about like a crown jewel recap slash overall breakdown you know what i mean yeah done um all right so let me go to uh sakari who is hoping to get it says hey pete greg the virgin greg the virgin dip oh no how much time do we have here guys sorry i wasn't looking at my clock here one minute oh my god 20 seconds oh my god they want a wwe or wcw vault match to be uh broken down on patreon we will get to it i'm sorry we'll see you guys next week we love you enjoy your socks

1:23:00Thank you.