CM Punk Doesn’t Need Money in the Bank

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0:29The Cave Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, oh. Thank you. Sweet, sweet Peter Rosenberg. Shout out to that guy, Greg. I like delicious chicken. It was Rappod. It was Rappod. It's professional. Wrestling. Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Cheap Heat Live, Sirius XM, Channel 93. It's WWE Radio. And it's Money in the Bank weekend. And through the miracle that is modern technology, I'm in the shadows of the Smoothie King Center and the Superdome is it Silverdome? no Superdome you sure it's not Silverdome? I'm not sure I am in New Orleans I have made it successfully to New Orleans for Money in the Bank New Orleans if you will New Orleans if you want to really hit that draw I had a realization this week I think that the proper way to say it without trying too hard and making a fool of yourself.

1:30Because I was defensive just now. What I did was offensive. Yeah, you're being ridiculous. Like someone, if you go, oh, I'm going to New Orleans. Okay, stop. I think the line, and I would love for a New Orleans person to tell me, I think the line of appropriate is just saying, I'm in New Orleans. Okay. New Orleans. Not New Orleans. No. New Orleans. Don't lean in. It's not New Orleans. You're not leaning in. You're not leaning back. You're Lin-Manuel Miranda. You're in New Orleans. Yes, New Orleans. So I think that, I think when you say New Orleans, because this has come up a lot on Don Hahn and Rosenberg, because when talking about Australia, I say I would really like to go to Melbourne.

2:19Okay. And Don gets mad at me for saying Melbourne. and I'm like yeah but you can't say Melbourne but I feel like I feel like you can I don't know I feel like Melbourne is for people that like the in group and we're not in why didn't I ask Bronson I think I think Melbourne is how you say it I think you say Sydney and you say Melbourne Melbourne is how they say it and that's what I'm trying to tell you people but that's how they say it but but i think in but i think this could be a houston houston kind of situation it is a houston houston situation but nobody says houston unless they're in new york and then you're in but when they come in and someone says oh where's houston street you go oh my god i know you have to go through that ritual i'm sorry it's a humiliation ritual you have to do it.

3:16I refuse. You want to skip? You want to skip it? Yes. I refuse to say Melbourne. I'm not doing it. Have you been to Melbourne? Have you been to Melbourne? No, but Cypher Sounds went... Well, then no, you have to do it. Cypher Sounds went and he said, it's Melbourne. You can't say Melbourne. And I said, I am... Who's more Australian than Cypher? Exactly, yeah. Nobody. I mean, I don't say Peth. But you might, though. It's like a stone's throw away from that. Next thing you know, you might be. Anyways, it's all going down Saturday night on the ESPN Unlimited app. Of course, you can hear Money in the Bank right here on WWE Radio, Sirius XM, Channel 93.

4:06Now, one person, I can't believe I'm doing this, but I have to. I'm going to really set SGG up. Oh, no. to listen control yourself. Okay. I'm going to give my thoughts on it and then I'll pass you the rock. I think I speak for all of us when we say that we like Conrad Thompson. Oh yeah yeah yeah. Love Conrad. Great guy. Conny's a great guy. He's only been I've known him you know lightly for a long time always been a lovely man. I do feel he needs to be called out for going on a full promo run based on trying to bury Roman Reigns. First of all, it's impossible. You can't bury the hottest guy in the industry right now.

5:02I respect the effort, but it's Roman Reigns we're talking about. But it doesn't change the intention. What I'm calling him out for, and again, I think Conrad's a good person. But he gave a take or two about Roman and not being a Roman guy, essentially, and saying, oh, is he on anyone's Mount Rushmore? Is he this or is he that? He got traction from it. And this week, I saw him go on a full promo run of I'm the guy who says that Roman Reigns is overrated. And for as much as I really do think Conrad's a good man, I like him, That was weak sauce, bro. Like going on a promo run for a negative take is I didn't think it was dope.

5:52He went on Ariel. He went on Shoemaker and Kaz. He did the rounds and it was the same thing each time. It was let me explain. Hey, let me explain to you why Roman Reigns isn't great. Do you know that Roman Reigns made more money in the last two years than Rick? I'm going to say something right now. Do you know how many all-time wrestling greats I have made more money than in the wrestling business? I was just going to say, and that's the whole point, by the way. It's a ridiculous comp. It happens in every industry, by the way, right? Like LeBron James made more money than Michael Jordan in basketball and NBA, I'm sure.

6:34It doesn't have to be LeBron James. It could be a six-man on the team. Oh, no, no. Oh, no, SGG, we can name a very, I won't say mid, but like an upper mid player. Rudy Gobert probably made more money than my team. Oh, Rudy Gobert, you know, the fourth best player on the OG and Unobi, like who's a great, really nice player. Yeah. We're talking about making more than Larry Bird and Magic Johnson. Like this is, it is what it is. The only person who wasn't in an industry like that is me who decided to get into radio where everyone used to make more money. sometimes it'd be like that so so we already talked about the Mount Rushmore piece last week I listen everyone has the right to to not be a Roman fan I just found it to be very weird work to be like I'm gonna make my brand I don't mess with Roman like I I don't I just don't know what and listen he doesn't have to be your favorite but you don't enjoy like he put on a masterpiece with Seth Rollins recently.

7:37Don't you just enjoy pro wrestling? I know someone who does enjoy pro wrestling and thinks it's great. It's Dipperstein. A run-in. Are you with a new haircut? A fresh face dip? He's really looking good. How are you? I am better looking than I've ever been. Don't you think? I think you may be. I do not disagree. And you can tell he's really looking at himself and enjoying it. Like, yeah, sort of like Bronson Reed said to us last hour, SGG, you know, Bronson was saying that with his new body dip, he will just get out of the shower and just stand there and look in the mirror for a while. Just enjoy it.

8:17So I'll just take it all in. That's kind of what you're doing right now with the computer screen. I can see you just feeling it. You're giving us a little Zoolander. Yeah, you're really, really ridiculously good looking right now. That's how it feels. I mean, I. Yeah, you're getting Zoolander, dude. Listen, this is great lighting for me. I'm not going to lie. I look great. I do. I'm very good looking. There's no doubt. By the way, that's a drop. Kelly, please make note of that drop. I'm very good looking. I want that. I got to figure out my light situation here. You look fantastic too, by the way.

8:54The rest of my radio. No, no. Nonsense. Dip, it's good to hear from you. They're doing a wrestling event. I'm here in New Orleans. They're doing a wrestling event here this weekend. Mm hmm. Money in the briefcase. Money in the big briefcase. By the way, I want to get dip's thoughts on this. This just popped in my head, but I know dip and I know he'll have thoughts. Does it surprise you that the big venue here is named after Smoothie King? You know, every single time I think about about by the way, I don't there's no Smoothie King in Los Angeles. We don't know. By the way, it's a shame because it's more of like, you know, an East Coast and South thing and it's a delightful chain, the Smoothie King.

9:35It's a great chain. Is it like a... What would you compare Smoothie King to? Can you get other things... What's the one that was in the mall? Jamba Juice. It's Jamba Juice. It's Jamba Juice. I would call it Jamba Juice Plus. Because it's the king. Because it's the king. Just bulldozing over my jokes that I was about to make. Oh, sorry. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Like just gone. Just... Yeah, we thought you were asking in earnest. Sorry we took you seriously. Sorry we respect you enough to give you an answer on what kind of place it is. You'll be able to give the joke. I still can't give it.

10:10Just so you know, I want to give you full background. It's the kind of smoothie king is where you go when you're like, I want like a meal replacement, but like tasty smoothie. That's where you're going. Okay, that makes sense. Is this an orange Julius? It is. It is Orange Julius Plus for sure, dude. So can I get a tuna sandwich at Smoothie King? That's the question. Nope. Nope. But it's all smoothies. It's all smoothies. They've got the Hulk and the Punch and the this and the that. I may go tomorrow and get one. I might too, actually. You have them in Philly, SGG? It's right outside of Philly.

10:54I live close to another town over. It's an ambler. Ambler. I'm very familiar with ambler. I'm not that far. Dip now. How does it feel that SGG is now talking about like ambler? I mean, he's like. It's really it's very uncomfortable. He's become really Philly. Yeah, I get it. So I'm not I'm not in New Orleans this weekend. I am fortunate. Shame. It just the travel Mishigas getting to New Orleans, forgetting the storm. and the weather, just the whole thing. There's one flight at 6 a.m. It's the worst. It's an insane thing. It's crazy. But I do have a routine. I used to not be a New Orleans guy. Now I have found a New Orleans routine that I like.

11:44Which is what? I do. No, I go to the same three restaurants, and then I look at art. I have an art walk that I do. You have an art walk? Yes. they have some of the most incredible i forget what the name of the street is but there is a in in i go to pesh the restaurant which is my favorite restaurant one of my favorite restaurants in the country you love pesh one of the biggest pesh guys in the biz okay is it impossible to get a table at pesh no you go by the way you want to be a real badass you go in you sit at the bar and you just like have you chat it up with the bar like the bartenders are fun you chat up with them.

12:21The food's incredible. It's Creole, like American Creole. It's on Magazine Street. Yes. Are we supposed to pronounce Pesh with the weird mark over the E? Pesci. Pesci. I say Pesh. It's fish. It's fish is what it is. And then next to Pesh, if you make a right, there's this incredible three or four streets worth of art galleries. I feel like... That's what I do in New Orleans every time. I feel like if Mania's ever back in New Orleans... It sounds like it is. It sounds like 28. Listen, I'm hoping that it is. That's what the rumor mill was saying. We're going back to the Smoothie King. We're going back to the Smoothie King, and we're doing the Dipperstein Art Walk.

13:03Yeah, we're doing Art Walk. It feels like there's a Dipperstein Art Walk. Tomorrow has to happen. So, Dip, I have a reservation tomorrow. Let's see if it's, I'm sorry, tonight, actually. Let's see if Dip's familiar with where I have a reservation as we get everyone ready here. okay we have a reservation tonight at Jewel of the South you familiar? No but the other place you should go is Cochon I think I haven't gone to Cochon we went together we went to Cochon and then you could eat crazy things there yeah which we had to do do you remember who was at the table at Cochon? Us three, Skyler Scott Ratner maybe what was this I forget it was Mania 34 oh right Shoemaker Shoemaker was there was Dave Schilling at the table oh boy wow blast from the past dude was we had a big round table at Cochon listen if you didn't make it to Money in the Bank I understand I will tell you though folks if it wasn't for all the travel Mishigas I would have really recommended people coming here.

14:16But I have to tell you, whether you're coming from New York or LA or Toronto, it is an annoying place to get to. I'm guessing if you're coming from Houston, it's easy. If you're coming from Atlanta, it's probably easy. If you're coming from Dallas, it's probably easy. But all of the other cities that are three hours and beyond away from here, it is a pain in the ass. There's so few flights. It's a dip. I took Southwest.

14:47but but but i mean the new orleans is also the blah blah blah focata gimmick bar capital of the world of course i mean yeah you ever you ever you ever have a drink at the dungeon i've never been to the dungeon yeah that's my favorite bar in new orleans i have a new world i have a new orleans thing you got a thing i should i come you know what i should i come should i come tomorrow you know what you should come you should i come here i hope it's better i hope it's better than your minneapolis gimmick we can have alligator intestines we can have alligator intestines at koshan we could look at some art for cock to art we'll have a smoothie at the smoothie king will be the kings of the smoothies it's it's it was so committed to the bit that he didn't see that you sent the rocket right yeah right yeah when you when you asked me to come to meet you at a bar in minneapolis and i'm and i'm as i'm walking he goes hey you know it's it's a college bar, but it's not that bad.

15:42I'm like, wait, what? I don't even remember this. I keep going, and I power my way through, and I get there, and there's like a nine-minute line with them checking the ID of people who are closer to being Maya's age than me, okay? I was like, I'm leaving, dude. The people were there. I went with the people. Yeah, the people made bad decisions that night. So, guys, let me get a... Alright, let's take a quick break. That's what we'll do. We'll take a quick break when we come back i want i want your predictions for this card we haven't heard anything from dip on money in the bank we've heard some from usgg but i want people's thoughts on who's winning uh these briefcases the men's match and the women's match are so different field wise it's just a vastly different kind of match curious to get your thoughts we'll do all that i'm in new orleans the guys are in los angeles and philadelphia respectively it's cheap heat live on WW Radio, Sirius XM, Channel 93.

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17:37Call now. Welcome back, folks. Welcome back. Man, probably a rough week for the healthinator with all the Eagles news. Lane Johnson retiring and trades. It hasn't been feeling good. I hope Zach's doing all right. I hope he's doing all right. Now, Dip, we're talking money in the bank. the women's which I have plenty of as you know oh yeah tons of it tell me this I don't SGG were you I can't remember if SGG and I already discussed this or not no no we didn't okay do either of you know the oldest competitor in the women's money in the bank match the oldest competitor in the women's money in the bank The point I'm trying to make is how ridiculously young.

18:34It's all kids in the women's match. Soul, Lola, JC, Lash. Lola I think might be the oldest. Who are we forgetting? Soul, Lola, JC, Lash.

18:56Tiffany Stratton. Tiffany Stratton. And Roxanne Perez. and Roxanne Perez. Who is, I'm asking you both, don't look it up, don't cheat. I didn't look it up. My guess was Lola. I looked up the roster. Your guess is Lola. Dip, who do you think is the oldest competitor in the Women's Money in the Bank match? We're speculating on women's ages. It's public, yeah. None of these women are going to cry about it, I don't think. Lash Ledger? Disgusting that you said that, you filthy pig. Yeah, how dare you, Dip? The way you said it was even worse. J.C. jane folks really jc jane is 30 years old on the dot she is the senior citizen of the group well when you say that you proved it sorry sorry i shouldn't say it like that no she's obviously young and no one would guess she's that even 30 but you know it's everyone is so young dude everyone in this match and when you can contrast that with the men's match where you have braun who's young.

19:59Javon is young. And, you know, Trick is pretty young. Not that young, but Trick's pretty young. And then you got Pento who's very experienced. And then KO and Punk who are combined like 90 years old. And yeah, Punk is the oldest. I know that one. Punk is the oldest. Thank you. Punk will be 48 at the end of this month. But anyways, I just thought that was really interesting that there's zero experience essentially. I mean, in the women's match. although Lash was just in the ladder match at Mania, right? I mean, at SummerSlam. Yeah. For the vacant title. So she got some experience. Roxanne has some.

20:40Tiffany does. Anyways, who do you guys like? SGG, you and I are both on board with Roxanne, correct? Yeah. We both think the only thing that really jumps out, Dip, that makes sense to us, for someone here to be holding a briefcase, it's not Sol Ruka. it's not Lola I mean JC I could listen if you really want to make Fatal Influence like just continue to have more and more but like she has a title they have tag title it's a lot there I don't see it and then it's Lash or Tiffany Stratton Tiffany feels done to have done that already to me it's Roxanne do you see anyone else? not to jump the gun but I was originally thinking it was going to be Lash Legend.

21:28Because it's hard to visualize what is Roxanne going to do with it? What is Soul going to do with it? Lola it seems too early. But you threw Roxanne in the middle. Roxanne has an entire crew still. It's very exciting. Not only does she have an entire crew. But before you jump to that, live with the title and Roxanne with the briefcase. Yeah, that's that's something. That is something. If we can live with the title back from Steph at this weekend and then Roxanne has the briefcase, that's already something. I would like to see it be Roxanne Perez. I don't know if it will be. But did you listen to anything that we said?

22:16Those are valid points. He didn't hear us. I heard what you said. Smoothie King. Let's talk about Smoothie King. He's thinking he's still thinking about smoothies. Or Julius. I hope maybe they have a banana flavor for me. I will say this about your Lash Legend thought. What I like about Lash is that the idea of her having the briefcase is very intimidating. Like, it feels like it's a guaranteed title. I didn't finish my point that I was making. Okay. I feel like I was very convinced it was Lash Legend. But I think Trick Williams is winning the men's money in the bank. And I'm thinking, are they going to give it to the couple?

22:51They can. They should. I know that they are not together on screen. It's a completely separate thing, but it still needs to be factored in even 5%. So are they going to give it to the two of them? And by the way, it's not – Probably not. Probably not. But Mr. and Mrs. Money in the Bank is not off the table though. But I don't know. They really don't talk about them being a couple too often. But they sort of do? Sort of do, but not really. She came out on the post show and like literally danced with him on stage. Like we interviewed him. We interviewed him on the countdown show the week they got married.

23:31This is like, how was the way you're like, but now you're giving them a gimmick together, which makes it, which is a little different. I am very, it's a decision for sure. It's a choice. I can see trick Williams being the winner of this match. I think, I think a lot of people think Bron Breaker is winning. I do not think that is the case. I think Trick Williams with the briefcase makes the most sense today. We just spent a couple of minutes about this on this dip, but I thought it was fascinating, so I want your opinion. Did you see the Sammy Trick-Javon promo from last Friday? Yes, I did. In which Sammy headbutted Trick?

24:09Yes, I did. We speculated our feelings on that. my belief is is that Sammy has a lot of love for Trick and in that and I'm making this up but I want your thoughts and in that moment wanted to get more out of Trick and impromptu the headbutt what did you see that's what I thought I thought he was kind of like come on bro let's go like trying to get him to have a little edge that's what I thought what are your tease the fact that this is even a conversation that we're having just why we love wrestling and why sammy zane's great anyway i don't think that's offensive that's even more offensive that's even worse well why is that a bad thing why is it a bad conversation what the yankees no the heck off i i i i was gonna say it just proves that sammy zane is still one of the greatest either improvisers or on-screen personalities that is that are that It's in the company.

25:11No question. Or both. Or both. So in any results there, no matter how you look at it, was it improv? Was he trying to get the best out of Trick? Or was it just like something they had discussed before? It still proved the point. Do I think it was improv? I don't. I don't know. I kind of disagree with that. I think that that would be a crazy thing to not – to have just come out of the blue for Trick Williams. That's what I was. But anyway, regardless, I see Trick Williams winning the money in the bank. I think it feels right. I was on the Penta train for a second thinking that – Oh, you were on the Penta train?

25:54On the Penta train, yeah. And then I got off of that. I don't think Penta needs it. I think Trick needs something. I don't know if he needs something, but he would benefit from having the pimped out briefcase.

26:17He could do a lot with that briefcase. It could be a furry briefcase. No. You're sending a furry briefcase. I'm sensing fur on the briefcase. You saying furry briefcase has me out on trick. I'm already bored along with the furry title. But you could sell a furry briefcase. but we don't need furry everything's okay yeah i would like to see everything be furry the chinchilla briefcase we don't need a chinchilla briefcase why not so so let me ask you guys the ultimate question why not uh okay first of all what's our consider not to interrupt you have to consider what are they doing with the briefcase with the person that wins it it has to be gimmicked up in some way i i hate that god i hate yeah hey they already made that not not all the time not all the time although i loved seth seth briefcase last year i liked when tiffany stratton um did the pink briefcase and turned it into like a like a fly bag what was what was what was rvds it's gonna be trick he just like blacked it out he blocked it out he put his logo on it it's going to be a furry briefcase.

27:27I'm going to buy the furry briefcase. I'll see you there. I'll see you with the furry briefcase. Next time you see me, forget my little, my little black carry on thing. I bring everywhere. Next time you see me, it's going to be with a furry briefcase. You know, you know how much they charge you for the furry briefcase. It might be$750. More. By the way, whatever. I have money in the bank. No, just order it online though. You might get a pro. I'm looking now at ones that have been done. previously. RVD had a good one. RVD. Do they show RVDs? There's the purple senior money in the bank. That was Damien Priest.

28:05There's regular white and green. Oh, the Seth one was black with his name on it. Tiffany's was a purse.

28:17See? The weird graffiti style one. Was that Brock? The boombox one? Yeah, but Like, yeah. But like, what's the punk gimmick going to be? What's the KO one? What's the breaker one? What's the Penta one? Punk already had a custom one. You know, he did the Chicago flag on. He put the Chicago flag on it. Like a tattoo. All right. I remember that. What's Javon's? Who knows? KO's going to tape it up. KO's going to put the duct tape on it. Potench. But Trick with the, you know, you have the furry belt. You got the furry, you know, whatever he wears, you know, the furry jacket. The furry coat. I'm thinking furry briefcase all the way.

28:57I have ended up in a weird place in my algorithm with old WWE stuff. Look, like here's one. WWF Radio, 1994, set a 40-minute segment. And it's been like commercials. I love the old commercials are the best. But this – no, but then dip the random commercials that I don't remember at all. um sg you remember the um raw to moving to usa commercial no i'm sure if i've seen it i just i haven't seen it you may not have seen it it was in 2005 were you really paying attention really out there so i it's this it's really fun my favorite thing is not just like seeing what the creative looks like or like to me what's fun is who did they include who are they including who is important for them to have there so I'm going to show you guys really quickly and we'll let the people hear it we're on WW Radio, it's their product here we go this is the, can you guys see my screen?

30:06alright listen up we're moving you can see it loading buffering buffering pillow fight

30:22All right, here we go. All right. Hey, are we there? The Hummer. Raw is moving. October 13th, USA Network. I mean, you had that at all. I think Visceral was sitting at the table. Play it again. Play it again? They're sitting. It's a house. It looks like a little house. Maybe in Connecticut. Oh, yeah. There's Vis. Yeah. It's Carlito. Viscera, John Cena, Carlito, Kurt Angle, Triple H, I believe, Tori Wilson and Vince. And one other person I can't make out. And then when they're showing like the different characters, one of the things that popped me is Roddy Piper. I mean, Piper was regular at that time.

31:06Yeah. The most fun. I just love that stuff. I love it, too. I have never seen that before, by the way. Neither had I until today. The most fun thing to do right now is like, yes, I'm watching like the WWE vaults, which I really love. But how you feel about the vault? I love the vault. But if you just Google like WWF wrestling challenge 1989 with commercials, watching a full show with the commercials from 1989 is you want to talk about it? That's. Well, it's not just the wrestling commercials. It's like a random Wendy's commercials and shit. Yes. And if you turn on like 1990 – I mean I'm 39. So in 1995, I was eight.

31:50So watching like a 1995 superstars with commercials is peak nostalgia. You should try it. It's mage. Listen, I'm amazed at how many just different – that stuff is fun watching all the commercials. But like here's another one, guys. Here's a SmackDown moving – I found one that's SmackDown moving to USA on Thursday nights. But this is like a later move. Remember when they went back to Thursday? This is later. This is based on who you'll see is in the commercial. I'm talking like 10 years ago. Look at this commercial. Tell me if anyone remembers this. This would be a fun game to play in general. And maybe we'll do it on Patreon.

32:34GP Live on Patreon. We can go wild over there. Here is SmackDown moving to USA on this Thursday. The Wyatt's out of the gate full Wyatt family. All of them, including Brock. Oh, great. Let me just check. Thank you. You sure you have the right day? Yes, Thursday. Right. Okay. Are you sure at USA? Yes, very sure. Starting Thursday at 8, SmackDown is moving to USA. Oh, hi. Who are you? Oh, that's it. It was just them. That was bizarre. Oh, and then you see who came in at the end? Yeah, New Day. You got New Day. You have Stardust. You have Paige. You have Sasha Banks. You have Titus O 'Neil. Wow, man.

33:28Promptown Play is right up at the front, too. Yeah, by the way, hell of a spot for the Promptown Play. Alicia Fox. Alicia Fox is there. Dip, you know what? You were off. It was during... I think I see Seamus' Mohawk in the back. Yeah, you're right. Good call. During your hiatus, we had a conversation about how much we both love everything on the menu, the Braun Strowman show. Have you spent any time with it? Not really. A little bit. I've seen an episode for sure. It is unbelievable. We were cracking up that it is unbelievable that they had that guy around for that long and nobody knew he could have just cut a promo.

34:07The guy's a great talker. Like, I don't know a lot about a lot, but I know a good amount about hosting shows. He is a really engaging, personable host who can like, you know, he has to get through a lot of material that like needs to be covered. And obviously there you can do he can do it over and over again. So we don't know whether if you hand him the mic and send him the ring, if he would cut the promo the same way. But he might, though. But it did seem like the emphasis on what he looks like was obviously just so big that I don't think people spent much time thinking about could he have a personality.

34:45And that's how it shows. I was always a huge fan. I like that. Did you read the rumor that he may be back? I'm in on that. Me too. Yeah, it was moving around this week. And SGG, how much do you want to bet that if that happens, it's because the show's going great and there's going to be another season of the show? So they're just like, we might as well just have them on TV. They could do that show forever. Yeah, there are always restaurants. We all assume Obafemi, I'm assuming, will be finding a way to beat Bronson Reed here. I mean... You couldn't say it to his face. I know. I was gutless. I wasn't going to say it.

35:26Listen, Bronson Reed, this version of Bronson Reed, I think, has a chance to be really special. what's interesting though is trying to figure out how anybody gets past obafemi when like his build is just so unbelievably strong and they already had you know bronson reed already interfered in the saturday night's main event match so like are they running that back are we getting another vision interference in this match sgg i just don't know what you do my feeling is it probably ends up being that Oba wins. Yeah, I feel that way, but I'm not going to insult our guest, so I'm going to pick Bronson Reed as my official pick.

36:08Well, you know what? Until Oba comes back on the show, Bronson Reed is the most recent guest, so I agree. We'll go with Bronson Reed. Oba, come back on. We'll change our picks. We are complete frauds. Now, do we think we see 9-4-6 on Saturday night? That's the other conversation.

36:28My guess is no. They don't get involved. I don't think so. You think we see a completely clean Roman LA Knight match? All his matches have been completely clean so far. I don't think they get involved. I said this a few weeks ago, and I feel like this more than, you know, last time I was on, I said this. How many matches could be a near miss for Roman? like how like I how competitive should this match be how competitive should it be very competitive yeah I think so mm-hmm you do feel that way he can't just go out there and squash LA night or like what squash LA night but like does Roman have to be that exhausted and that beaten up at the end of this match I don't know I thought that was a good take from Dip like is okay let's just look at the three most recent ones right I believe Jacob, Seth and now LA Knight Penta there's four they're in theory if Roman's going to win all of them which so far he has he's three for three if Roman's going to win them there probably should be a pecking order to like how these matches play out.

37:55There needs to be a pecking order. Okay. And I think we would all agree that the top of that pecking order, the closest, hardest fought match should probably be Seth. Seth Rican Rollins. Yep. Right? Yes. That's the one. But I would say Penta took him to as much of the limit as Seth did. He can't be taken to the same limit by all of the competitors in these matches. We need a separation of limits, SGG. Yes. He can. He can, and here's why, right? Because these are all, they bring different style of match to Roman. So Penta took him to the limit because Penta is a luchador, and Penta was hitting destroyers.

38:37What a lawyer answer this is. It's true. The lawyeriest answer. But it's true. It's true. And Jacob's completely different than L.A. Knight, who's completely different than Seth, who's completely different than Penta, and that requires... a lot of our tribal chief. It's possible they could all take him to the limit because they're all bringing something different. Now, if this was like another luchador, if it was Rey Mysterio, somebody like that, then you could say, yeah, Penta and Rey shouldn't both be pushing him to his limit or like a Dragon Lee or something like that. Like they shouldn't both be pushing to the limit.

39:09But this is L.A. Knight. Whoever ends up beating Roman eventually. spiritually like is it it's gonna have to be more than it like it you you here's my point you'll make your point roman is a isn't let me let me say something hold on hold on go ahead hold on a second i have something to say all right go ahead please we're waiting Okay. Let me just preface this by saying – No, no, no. Not to interrupt. But let me preface this for a moment. Yeah. Roman Reigns can have a near miss with every competitor. And if it happens until he loses, it's not as believable as it should be. He can't have the same level of competition no matter what the style with every single person.

40:05This is Roman Reigns we're talking about. OK. So. And then the person that eventually beats him, it can't be the same thing again during that either. And then the other person eventually like it can't be the other way around on that side either. If you're really going to bring someone up to the next level. But I'm going to disagree with SGG. I don't think I think they will have a battle much to your chagrin dip. I think it will feel as close as the other ones. but I think shenanigans are happening. I do not. I agree. I agree. This is the prime. We are set up for shenanigans. I really think that.

40:44How can Roman be moving around? People are getting run over by cars. Yeah. Okay. There. And he's like, no, something's got to give, dude. He's like, yo, he came back this week and he's like, yeah, I just heard what happened. You just heard? Roman doesn't go. I mean, he doesn't go online. I think it's a great call. I think it's a great call. I think there's a possibility. Yes, I'm sensing maybe they cost Roman the bet. I'm not saying he may lose under crazy circumstances, and then you build up to a Royce Keys Roman thing, and you build that for the next month. But if Roman loses the title. Not losing the title.

41:30Oh, just lose the match. Okay. I'm not saying. Greg, you're not losing the title. I'm just saying, you throw the L word around. I'm sensing Mish - Yeah, because if they attack him, then he wins. Or the match just turns into a complete schmoz and DQ. If it's DQ, it would be a Roman win if they attack him. No, but it could be an all-out, just they end the match. No, you're right, though, Greg. No, you're right. You're right. You're right. It could be schmoz DQ, Mishigas Galore, Roman ends up with the win because of the DQ.

42:11And you build towards Royce Keys and Roman Reigns. And then there's a very competitive match and Royce Keys almost beats him and then Roman wins again. Does Roman or LA Knight or whoever is the champion at the end of the night get cashed in on at the end of the night? I don't like a same-night cash-in. I'm not a same-night cash-in guy. Okay. You're not a same night cash in guy. No, not a same night cash in guy. He's not a same night cash in guy. No, if there are same night cash in guys and non-same night cash in guys, I'm in the non-category. Yeah, I guess I usually am too. I think it's overly.

42:50We need to source the fur and figure out where the fur is coming from. Hopefully it's fake fur. yeah we respect the faux fur we need to find the source of the faux fur for several weeks I'd like to see vignettes where Trick Williams goes and finds the faux fur and picks it out the faux fur yeah so for the record SUG I want to apologize the Conrad's promo tour has not been based on going after him we didn't get to that because dip hit the run-in i was gonna say it's about the intercontinental championship yes it's about the belt going to auction for auction but the sheets and the fans i guess don't care as much about the belt and so his his promo tour for the auction has revolved around but listen let me tell you something i am a mark-a-doodle-doo of the highest order and that match this i mean savage Steamboat is my everything.

44:02I mean, I literally just did a doc interview about it last week. I loved it. I still see this thing, though, that says come see the belt in person. Okay. I mean, I need more than a belt in person. Okay. I don't know what it takes, but I mean, it's a great belt. I know it very, very well. All right, let's take a last break here, and we'll come back and close things out on this Money in the Bank edition of Cheap Heat Live on WW Radio. Attitude. Attitude. You take a poundful of pain, add a touch of disdain, then throw in some taker and cane.

44:53Do you smell what the rock is wearing as the man with no sense of smell? WWF cologne for men and eau de toilette for women. It's 100 % pure attitude in a bottle. To order, call 815-734-1161. Visit the WWF website or send$19.99 plus shipping and handling to the address on your screen. Smell what you're wearing, daddy-o. All right. Welcome back to the show, everybody. SGG is in Philly. Dip is in Los Angeles. I am in New Orleans. Money in the Bank is Saturday night. We have talked about the men's match. Although, I don't think I made a prediction. SGG, you're going punk? I've picked Penta a while ago.

45:37I'm going to stick with Penta, but Dip made a compelling case for it to not be Penta. I just don't want to switch. I'm thinking Penta Schmenter on this. You're going trick. You're going trick. Yeah, you went trick. I'm going trick. I'm going to stick with Penta. But I like KO. Isn't KO having the briefcase with Sami as champion almost too obvious? But Punk having the briefcase with Roman as champion is just as obvious. No. It's not going to be Punk. KO or Punk having the briefcase with either champion is just as obvious because they both have history with both champions and I guess that makes it less obvious because it's about which champion they actually go after but those are two built in storylines ready made for either champion right now so that's two good picks by the way it could be Punk it could be Punk of course it could be Punk and as I said last week on the show Punk needs a briefcase like a fish needs a bicycle he doesn't need a briefcase no he'll take it though and tip and do you understand a fish doesn't need a bicycle because a fish doesn't have legs no i know i know i know they don't have legs i know they don't think about it if you put a fish on the bicycle it's gonna flop around and just slide off the seat and do nothing that's what i feel like he doesn't need the briefcase he's he's cm punk oh also i saw sam i saw sam roberts god bless him having having a conversation online about how unquestionably this run of cm punk has surpassed the first wwe i saw that i saw him i'm with i'm with him but it's it's but it's just it's a ridiculous it's a nothing thing to say like sam is great at radio so congratulations on trolling me into wanting to comment on it that's what makes him good but as far as like conversation is concerned in the first one he showed up as someone that no one in like regular households had ever heard of and built his way to becoming a global icon that the summer of no the summer of punk was the most mainstream thing that had happened in wrestling in like a hold on hold on at that time at that time when it happened it was the most mainstream moment in wrestling in years.

48:05False. No. Number one. Name the thing. Number one. You call it the summer of punk? It was the two weeks of punk, right? He won, he left, and then two weeks later he came back. I'm saying what the era was called, what the time moment was called. But real quick, when that happened, and it started getting written up in GQ, and all these mainstream places were talking about, oh, is wrestling real? There were think pieces on it. We were coming out of an era, guys. where no one was talking about wrestling. It was dead. It was that late John Cena. Cena had already been a thing for a while. Name it. Name the 08, 09, 10 thing.

48:47What the TNA Monday Night Wars revisited? I mean, nothing was happening. Brett coming back was huge. It was huge. People loved it. You didn't even believe it. It was huge. No, it was huge for me. but you don't even believe what you just said in terms of so are you talking about mainstream people like like outsiders or getting too far in the weeds the open you see the point that i'm making though to compare that versus the guy who came back this time around and has been booked as the top guy for four years straight yeah like yeah he's had incredible stories with every top guy there is to have but the first time around bro he was the ecw champion on on sci-fi like right it's it's just a ridiculous comp to me it's it's a fun thing but it's ridiculous you see what i'm saying yes punk's second run is better than the first run because everybody's second run is better than their first run everybody hogan sean michaels you name it anybody that takes that big break can come back the second one's always better than the first run in part because hogan's hogan's second run in wwe is better his second no his wwe was the third one i'm talking about the second one run was the big was the nwo oh you meant that one i thought you meant his second run in wwf was actually hulkamania right that was his second run that's true greg you're saying his run in the Fugazi NWO reboot?

50:25Hollywood Hulk Hogan was better than... No, no. No, he means NWCW. I'm saying Hulkamania. You had Hulkamania, right? And then you had Hollywood Hulk Hogan. Oh. Hollywood Hulk Hogan was better than Hulkamania, I think. I mean... People might disagree. Sean's second run was better. It's a wild claim. No, I mean... It's everybody's second run is better than the first. By the way, my favorite Hogan is Hollywood Hogan. But it's a one. But I wouldn't major. By the way, that's his third run. Yeah. Hogan has like a early first run heel Hogan AWA run. You know, there's a lot. And speaking of, too, you just made me circle back to on the Roman thing.

51:14Conrad calling Roman an industry plant. They're all industry plants, bro. Everybody. every single one since the 1920s even rosenberg's an industry plant fact all of them all industry plants hogan you talk about hogan's second run right he comes back in december 1983 by january 1984 he's champ and hulkamania is off and then the only the only argument against the quote-unquote um industry plants are the indie like the long-time indie guys who then make it they're like Daniel Bryan's not an industry plan CM Punk's not either right at least not originally none of them maybe WWE wasn't behind them but promoters were behind them promoters brought them in those spots it's a silly it's I hate that term I hate that term I know it's by the way it's the most overused it's it's the it is the most overused crap listen Sam Conrad two great guys you know a ton about wrestling with a couple of crap takes this week.

52:16Huge steaming piles of dung, particularly from Conrad. Sam's did get me thinking, but no. The first Punk run was he did, it's just what he did was more impressive. It was way more impressive to have done what he did the first time. Now listen, does he look better the second round? That's not even a question. He truly looks like a pro wrestler the second run. The guy's jacked to the gills. Alright, we gotta go. Enjoy Money in the Bank. We'll come back next week. We'll break it all down to a fine powder. You want to send your emails? We'll go back to the mailbag next week rosenberg wrestling at gmail.com uh guys enjoy the uh the festivities i'll see you on the countdown shown it uh enjoy the smoothie king enjoy the smoothie king stay mage and stay furry stay furry stay furry that's weird we get it he loves trick leaves