From the Slums of the Half Bath

0:02It's Cheap Heat with Peter Rosenberg featuring Stat Guy Greg and Dip. Hey everybody, how are you? Welcome to Cheap Heat Live, the world's number one sports and recreation podcast and radio program. I'm your forever 24-7 champion Peter Rosenberg coming to you from New York, New York. Happy Halloween everyone. in Philadelphia. We have the physically large and very strong stack guy, Greg. Hey, SGG, how are you? I'm doing great, Pete. How's everybody doing today? You know, I'm feeling pretty good. I'm feeling pretty good. We're also joined by, I believe, a Florida dwelling currently, Brian Dipperstein.

0:43Hi, Deb. It's time for Halloween Havoc, baby. I am here. uh i am in florida and uh it's raining you're you're there for halloween havoc i'm here for uh you know i got the family here i got halloween havoc here i got you know there's a lot going on a lot going on here at the uh in the in the south of the country please do tell expound more but there's what else going on i gotta i'm i'm staying at my friend carrie sobel's house i have he's got some, I remember I think I spoke a few weeks ago about we talked about toilets. This is the house with the great toilets. Really? Yes. Tell me about the toilets.

1:26You sit on the, they're heated seats. It's a little remote control. There's no flusher. It's a little remote. And there's a there's a bidet, but not one of the ones you latch on an actual bidet in the toilet. It's fantastic. They spent they went all the way Went full on bidet We're full bidet baby Every excuse to go I'm going Bidet in every bathroom Most bathrooms it appears Most bathrooms There's probably like a half bath That's just for guests that they said People can slum it in the half bath You know what I understand Bath slumming toilet I understand I have to tell you though I was at a friend's house, the friend in San Francisco.

2:11He had like the he had one of the add on bidet seats. That was like one of the best add on versions I've ever seen. Really tremendous. I can't. It's it's it's built in or go home, baby. No, no. Well, it's built into the seat. It's not built into the it wasn't built into the toilet. It was built into. Actually, you know what? I didn't even use the bidet. I'm speaking to just the warm toilet seat, if I'm being honest. So was it a total? I'm not aware if there was Toto or a Toto adjacent brand but it was a nice experience yeah because Totos I love the Toto bidets do you think this is a some sort of brand opportunity sponsorship opportunity for GT could we be the official bidet wrestling program I hope so I hope so I know Tushy had a moment I have a Tushy But if I'm being honest, the Tushy is in the slumming it bathroom, the slumming it guest bathroom, and the Toto is upstairs with the luxury.

3:16Yeah, no, Toto's a luxury item, I believe. We're big Toto people over here. I need to get my Toto game right. Now, some people would describe, you said Tushy. Some people would describe some of the things that have happened in professional wrestling as Tushy. Some would describe things as fantastic. It all depends on the moment, the match, and what you saw. Um, what was your, what was your highlight, SGG? Because I just was reliving SmackDown before the show started. Because that's always the furthest removed from our show. Yeah. So I really have to go back. Or it's like it happened a year ago.

3:51Um, SmackDown had some good, had some bad and some ugly as well. It had a myriad of everything. Um, I thought Raw was certainly stronger this week. but is there one thing you could define as the highlight for this week? Across Raw and SmackDown, Sami is earning his keep as champion. He has proven to be that guy. And I think even more so on Raw than SmackDown, that promo that he gave where he was just like, look, I'm rare. There's nobody in this generation that's on my level. And I think he said, Sean, Kurt, and Eddie are the only people in the conversation that he is as complete professional wrestler at any level, anything you give him knocks it out of the park, and I think if you just even look at his WrestleMania resume, forget about him being champion right now, if you just look at that it's hard to argue that case, right?

4:48Because like he has the Johnny Knoxville jackass moment Here's the thing though, he's near the top of that list in the in the he he's near the he's near the top of the list in the talking department of those guys he is near the he's the bottom of the wrestling though of those names that he just said no no but because and here's why kurt they all hurt eddie and sean sammy's not the last wrestler in that group no i don't think there is a last one because they all check different boxes in the ring like they have they have here with dip here we go they have phenomenally they have four completely different styles and they're both phenomenal they are both phenomenal so i i think when you say those guys and you think about their styles you have to consider that they have completely different styles but when you think about the whole package like the comedy the serious champion everything sammy's in the category with those guys um listen the comedy part no question as i said the mic work no question the ability to have a great match in a big spot no question but if you were to ask the average fan who has enjoyed the work of sammy kurt eddie and sean i think they'd have a much stronger connection dip i imagine you agree and we love sammy by the way i i'm i'm just now because what we do is argue so you've put me in this position i'm not going to not argue but sammy is putting himself in rarefied air i think he's currently the most entertaining person in professional wrestling but dip from a pure wrestling standpoint are you putting sammy zane next to kurt angle eddie guerrero and sean michaels wrestling i'm putting him there or very under him.

6:43He's one of the best wrestlers on earth. Professional, just in the ring. I mean, yeah. I don't know about entertainment value. I don't know about entertainment value wise. No, I disagree. I say entertainment value wise is where he's at with them. It's the wrestling part that I think he's a great wrestler. He just doesn't have moves that I think people hold on to and you go, oh, wow, the way we do with Kurt, Sean and Eddie individually they all have stuff that make you oh my god because of his style as a heel he doesn't do half of what he can do but he is phenomenal in the ring listen I'm not I don't know I'm now I'm sitting here dissing Sami Zayn he's awesome I'm not putting him with those three as wrestlers but guess what I don't know that I'm putting anyone active in wrestling with those three wrestlers but you do make a good point he is he has scaled it way back to be a heel, which is one of the things that makes him great.

7:43And I think he is at this point, the highlight of TV. He clearly had the heavy lifting of the last week in that this was one of those weeks where you're setting up towards Sammy and Roman and Roman was not around in a full capacity, at least. And Sammy had to hold it down. So Javon ends up getting the spot with Sammy on Monday. I thought it was a big moment for Javon Evans but guys this kind of like speaks to what my issue is with Crown Jewel when we get to like the Crown Jewel championship matches you end up having to sort of shoehorn in stories that aren't really there otherwise and so you end up having sort of these awkward spots now where you have to you have to force sort of segments between people because you got to get to Sammy and Roman even though that story wasn't the story that was going on previously to that.

8:37SGG, do you know what I'm saying? I know exactly what you're saying. And I usually hate it. Usually I'll be in lockstep with you on this. But this is Sammy and Roman, right? Like, what are we talking about? The last time they touched for that championship that eventually evolved into the championship that Sammy has around his waist, we loved it. And I want to see it again. And it's a built-in story that they could always tap into just like everybody else. you know, we said the same thing. Oh, I'm here for the match. I can't, I'm very excited. Listen, I think that that is going to be, as we sit now, about a week out from Crown Jewel.

9:13That is hands down what I'm most excited about from Crown Jewel. I'm super looking forward to that. How do you think Javon handled the spot on Monday, SGG? That was a big step up, cutting the promo, having the match, doing the whole thing with Sami Zayn. I think he handled himself well in ring. But I think, I think, and this was, this this talking point was making the rounds on social and i have to agree sammy as champion and it's your talking point let's be real because you said it first it was just applied to the wrong setting and you probably got there a little bit early about sammy's trying to get these young guys to bring it he's really feeling himself in that role as champion like he's trying to get them to to develop and see what they got and and really bring it and i think javon might have brought it more than trick, but it's very fun to see Sammy in that role as like, you know, because we think about the face of the company as the person who's going to do the PR, right?

10:09Go to Fallon, do the premieres. And Sammy's operating in that role in a different way in like, no, I'm going to be the locker room leader and we're going to trim the fat and you're going to have it not just in the ring, but on the mic. And it's not just going to be like, oh, this guy is hot. We're going to see if you're actually over and if you're somebody that can sustain what you got over long term. He's testing these guys. And I like that. I like that we get to see it. Dip, what do you think about the prospect of Sammy Zane having? We've had a lot of open challenges. The first open mic challenge.

10:44Who can get out there and square up with Sammy on the mic who's in that locker room? I don't know how many can. Look, we know that these guys like Javon Evans is amazing in the ring. he's like you know another level when you see him jump off those ropes and do all his stuff but you know I just feels like a lot a lot of these a lot of these guys like it's gonna take a lot of development I I just don't know if like going out there with Sammy Zane who is the best one of the best talkers in the entire business and going toe-to-toe with him like I guess you can only I does throw you out into the wolves apply to live tell like to live of television and to like the first segment of raw.

11:25I mean, I love Javon Evans and I think he's got a massive future. Um, he's, you know, there hasn't been anyone like him in a really long time, if ever, but I, you know, you think you're saying it's what it sounds really hard. He's saying, but it sounds like you're gently saying, is it too much for these guys to get this spot right now? Yeah. Like, yeah, yeah, exactly. Like, well, this is my SGG. This is the Roman conundrum though. because Roman wasn't on Monday. So we got to have a big segment with Sammy. So who are we doing it with? Yeah, and I'm sorry, like, is it too much for these guys right now?

12:02It might be, but it has to be now, right? Because when you look at Sammy, Roman, KO, Punk, Cody, we're looking at like maybe three, four years before there's an exodus. I know, but this is the age-old argument. It makes me sad too, Dip, But when that spot opens up, when those spots open up, and it's going to be a lot of them, you're going to need people to fill in. Oba's one guy. Braun Breaker's getting there. Braun Breaker, he's improved immensely. Since the first time that we saw him to now, he's a completely different person. You weren't around during this time when I said it. That was the Oba story that improved him.

12:44Yeah, agreed. I totally agree. That was the moment of change was him and Oba to me. But I mean, look, it should be the number one thing that everybody's working on is how to cut a promo, how to how to, you know, how to be compelling with that mic. They can all wrestle. But it's really about the storytelling that's going to take the shows to the next level. Everybody knows that. You know what the most astounding thing that I heard on wrestling television this week was the Julia Blake Monroe match. And Cole goes, these two have been going at it for the better part of six months. Yeah. That literally blew my mind.

13:30I was like, I think there are a lot of wrestling fans who would fail the test if someone had said, how long have Blake Monroe and Julia been going at it for? Yeah, I would have failed. I would have failed completely. Six months. I wouldn't put that six months. Six minutes. I know. Which I do think speaks to a SmackDown issue that exists. there is too much seemingly filler stuff on SmackDown that just like Raw has good weeks, Raw has bad weeks, but I think the segments all feel much more meaningful. But SmackDown has segments that just feel like, oh, we're doing Blake Monroe and Julia. Does the crowd really feel engaged with that story?

14:14I think based on that statistic and our reaction, the answer is no. If they made it a story, if there was a story between the two of them, we would want to see them beat each other up. Correct. by the way nothing that I'm saying I know this is like nuance none of this is about the talent this is not on the talent in my opinion to create out of nowhere an interesting story there I just don't think there has been one and then the funny stat that Cole threw out afterwards was and if you already know the answer don't respond but I'm filling the blank for what you think he was going to say honestly he goes this is the first street fight on SmackDown in over...

14:58I forgot what he said. Okay, great. What do you think the answer would be to that dip? He said this was the first street fight we've had on SmackDown in over... A year? SGG? I'd say like three years. So I was with SGG because I feel like when I hear a stat like that coming out, there's going to be something. he's in over six months no i was like less i don't know but that's the problem that's the problem i'm alluding to also is like things like a street fight a street fight on tv should be really meaningful and i don't know that people cared enough about the story between blake munro who by the way i think is dope same with julia that like it qualifies as like a moment by the way i didn't feel different as as as bigger as the story is and obviously more impactful i didn't feel any different about when cody said to randy and it's going to be last man standing i was like when's it not last man standing well it's always last man standing yeah what what is the most what is the most overused stip and what is the most underused stip because i'd say last man standing may be the most overused step in the business today i'm gonna be the last man standing if this uh if i can buy one of these toilets no you're gonna be the first i'm the last man sitting you're gonna be the first man sitting first man sitting i think underused i might have to go with steel cage i i know i might have to go with steel and then when they what about first blood nah still cage because they're not a lot of first blood i would like to see more caskets by the way not a ton of caskets and also not a ton of um not a ton of caskets not a not a ton of inferno matches am i right i'm i'm down for the for the inferno i mean i you know there's uh what else is there bull rope you know what though what on evolve i called multiple bull rope matches I guess that's true like they do bust out bull rope more than you think there needs to be more gimmick matches in general there needs to be more I'm so excited whatever happens with this spin the wheel make a deal, Zillofa 2, match, whatever on Saturday, at least they're spinning a wheel and making a deal were you into Taboo Tuesday and Cyber Sunday?

17:31that was a dark period for me but I have gone back and watched I like a, you know, a audience choice or a fan favorite or whatever the hell that is. I like that stuff. By the way, it did make for a very interesting and bizarro pay-per-view at the time. I will say that. Isn't that the entire premise of this John Cena classic that we're about to get? I don't know. Is it? That the fans decide? Oh, no, no, no. That's the fans decide who wins the tournament, isn't it? I think so. Who knows? I don't know if I trust that. He said at the beginning that what's going to make this different is you may not win the match, but you may win the whole thing because the crowd chooses you.

18:19Right. Your performance is so great that the crowd will choose you. I don't know if I trust the crowd. I know. How do you do that when there's heels and baby faces? I know. I know. it's going to be interesting and you know what, listen, we're probably going to get more information about the John Cena Classic because John Cena is on Raw on Monday you know who should win the John Cena Classic? Hold on let me think of where this joke's going to go, hold on it's simple I really got to dip it's very simple the answer is Peter Rosenberg oh, thank you not a joke, by the way, very serious By the way, I really appreciate that coming from both of you guys.

19:04I don't like, don't call my jokes, by the way, okay? Let me deliver the joke. I don't need a pre-joke warning. I hate to tell you this, Dipp, though. I don't need a pre-joke warning. The audience sees it coming. You know what? You know what? Dipp, hold on. Let me tell you something, all right? Hear me for a second. No underappreciated. Hold on. Just listen for one second. I'm going to make a point. Hold on. I feel like you have something to say, Pete. What do you want to say? I have something I want to say. I need everyone to hold on for a moment so I can say what I'm going to say. in that hold on in that case we could see the joke coming we don't always see the joke coming but in that case when you went you know who should win it you know that's not going to be a serious answer you were not there's no there was zero chance you were going to be like ricky saints you were not sadly you know how you know how we knew you did you let it breathe you you tried to you gave the pause it was a pregnant pause i yeah i feel when you have something to say you get i feel My speech is very vetted right now.

19:58I don't like it. I'm just saying. I don't like my vetted speech. I am vetting and vetting. Real quick also, I want to take your calls, guys. Most overused and underused stipulations in wrestling matches today. 877-344-4893. That's where we'll start out. Let's go to Pierce in Indiana, the home of the best cocktail sauce in America at San Elmo's. Pierce, your thoughts on stipulations in the world of pro wrestling these days. Hey guys, how you doing? I think that the most overused would probably be Hell in a Cell. It's not as overused as it once was, but it's still somewhat overused. I think underused, it's got to be first blood.

20:38We haven't seen one in like 20 years. I love first blood. One of the biggest first blood guys in the biz today. All right, let's ask Claude. Thank you for the call, Pierce. I'm going to push back on Hell in a Cell. Let's see. You do get a lot of them. Really? let's see in the last five years you think Claude will know the answer what would the no I said how many hell in a cell matches have there been in the last five years Claude is thinking very hard here's the thing I think we would feel we wouldn't feel this way if these matches got more violent if they went back to the old like if there was like you know people were really using the cell in crazy way I guess I guess they they have it's been there's been an uptick in using the cell and down ticks there's upticks and down ticks people were not happy with the lack of cell usage in oba brock right i was fine with it because to me oba brock don't need it it's more about containing them but there are people who didn't see it that way yeah i gotta tell you one-dimensional view of the cell matches though yeah i think that's true um all right in the last five years here's what i came up with you ready Cody and Seth in 22 that was good Edge and Finn at 39

22:07Punk and Drew at Bad Blood Brock and Oba at SummerSlam wait it said Cody and Seth at Wrestlemania 32 no no no sorry in 2022 22 in 2022 you remember when when cody had the the the peck that was 22 already that was almost five years ago oh my god it'll be five years in june that's nuts dude that is like five minutes ago dude nothing nothing has progressed since then not in a bad way or a good way i'm just saying it that feels like it just it feels like the current era that doesn't feel like a different era it feels like the same era i know it's think about how different guys 90 and 85 were. Yeah.

22:56Okay. 90 and 85. It's a different business completely. What about 95 and 2000? 95 and 2000? What, SGG? I was going to say almost a different logo coming up and everything. Yes. And 2000 to 05 from attitude error to full Sina. Alright, let's go to Chad in N.O. who wants to talk stipulations. What do you got, Chad? yeah I think the uh most overused has got to be the street fight because they gimmick it they gimmick it for every single town and underused and I want to hear an argument on this inferno match we we said inferno yeah no way to argue it because it was taker it was taker and they don't have anyone else to do it I come on I could see Dan Housen in an inferno match by the that would be really funny that would or like i mean who else is spooky right now dan housing i i feel like last man standing is still the one i think i feel like last man standing has do we have spooky right now is there spooky except wait wait do you mean spooky or macabre macabre is there macabre a macabre guy right now who's her gal zaria zaria is macabre zaria's macabre oh oh what do you mean lyra's macabre lyra is macabre lyra is macabre i would put i would put lyra in the macabre category who by the way a lot of people don't know this if blake munro and julia have been feuding for six months i got news for you lyra and bailey they're going into year number three seriously that was a good match though by the way it was a good match yeah like all the matches were good the gable match was good the mat yeah the match qualities because again the talent is really good match quality is really up there right now like across the board across the board i have not watched a match in a very long time the i like um the becky live match was very good until and that was good.

25:09In the last, like, several months, I don't think I have watched a match on Raw or SmackDown where I've been like, that did not work. From a match standpoint. From a match in-ring standpoint. Yeah, no, I think the match quality has been solid. So that's good. Something has... Someone said something. I just think that... But I think what I'm indicating about Bayley and Lyra is back to the story thing because their match was really good. What I wish was in order to tell Lyra's macabre story, I wish we were going to like, I know we bring this up a lot, but like that's where I want to get away from the arena.

25:48That's where I want to learn about macabre Lyra. Speaking of, by the way, I would love to learn about macabre Lyra. Speaking of outside the building, Grayson Waller went to Tony DeAngelo's house this week. Mage, he did. I didn't see it. I immediately was like, he went to the house. I love that I want to see people go to the house I miss the house I know I want to see people's houses Burn them down Do whatever you got to do Go to the house How many times do you think That's the most underused We haven't seen too many breaking and entering I would love a solid breaking and entering And no one pulls a gun out anymore Yeah what happened Someone got run over by a car the other day That was great.

26:35That is true. That is true. I want a shot like a piano to fall to some on someone's head. You're not doing enough of the pianos. No, if Braun comes back, if Stroman comes back, he's throwing a piano. Do you remember when we used to joke? Do you remember the joke we used to make about Braun was going to slam someone off of an aircraft carrier? Because they just kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger. Let's go to Rob and I were real quick with a stipulation comment. Rob, what's up? Hey, what's going on, guys? I was just going to throw in the I quit match into the most overused. It just always has the same finish.

27:09So if I never see one again, I will be fine. It's either the baby face is going to win because he gives the heel some ridiculous amount of punishment, and then finally the heel quits at some random time when he's scared of something, or the heel has to threaten a loved one to get the baby face to quit. It's never the old Tully putting the spike in the eye until he quits. So I would get rid of that one for a while before I bring it back. By the way, Rob, this is why you're one of the great callers and one of the great Iowans that I know. It's a strong call. I think I quit has been overused for sure.

27:43877-344-4893. There's still a whole lot more to get into from the show. Dip just indicated, the Becky Liv match, of course, and the finish of that match that has created a little bit of conversation, certainly. A lot more different stuff to get to as we get you ready for Crown Jewel coming up. it is Cheap Heat Live on this Halloween Friday and we got to talk Halloween Havoc as well. Dip is obviously fully dialed in to NXT right now so all that coming up right here on Cheap Heat Live on WWE Radio. Live at the Meadowlands. At the World Wrestling Federation competitions are tests where championship titles reward the best.

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29:05Don't miss the sensation of the World Wrestling Federation. When I was a little kid, welcome back to Cheap Heat Live, by the way, WW Radio. When I was a kid, I couldn't even see a commercial for Nightmare on Elm Street. My brother would torment me. I wouldn't even want people to say the name Freddy. No, it was torture. like it it really you have to be mentally tough in those days to sit through nightmare on elm street and there's some scenes that i still like cringe at yeah i just we lived in a time i don't know if it's because we were little or the world was more innocent but like it's just a different time man and i gotta tell you now the people are like oh i'm into horror and i'm like oh what are you into and they're like terrifier i'm like that's not horror to me terror terrifier is like gore core it's not like it's it's it's it's gore porn yeah it's like that we grew up on was like it fucked with your head more than just like the blood and guts like you're not gonna believe how you're not gonna believe how disgusting this is like and that went on in my opinion that went on all the way through my favorite psychotic mind in the field, Rob Zombie.

30:26And then post-Rob Zombie, I feel like people escalated. And who did – Eli Roth, the Hostile series. And then they went to the – ever since then, Saw. Saw. It then brought like a – God, do you guys at S-U-G? basically every field I'm in I am now a back in my day honestly wrestling the least wrestling the least wrestling is the one that I can still really like be like oh this is as good as anything but when it comes to music and movies I'm a big back in my day kind of guy because I just I'm gonna go see Clayface and I'm curious about it it does seem scary but I don't know these days is the horror.

31:15There's some stuff. Obsession was good. I liked Obsession. Do you see it, SGG? Nah. No interest? Nah. Dip, you didn't see Obsession, did you? I did. Do you like it? He did not. I was very mixed. Dip, when was the last time you fully liked a movie? You walked out and went, wow. What a movie. Do you have any recollection? It's a very, very good question. Because you are the hardest. Like Nick and I will talk sometimes and I'll be like, oh, Dip said that's terrible. And I'm like, but on second thought, Dip says everything's terrible. It becomes hard to know. The last movie that I loved in the last 10 years that I, the best movie of the last 10 years that I thought was just an absolute masterpiece from top to bottom.

32:15is uncut uncut uncut gems uncut gems is one of the greatest movies of all time that is a strong strong it is on it I think I'm putting it like top five ever for me oh my god yeah I love that movie that movie is amazing that performance is insane the direction is insane no one's doing anything like that it's Zach said this is an outrageous take yeah it's it's i really you're gonna like i really enjoyed uncut gems i saw it twice in the theater so that's as much as i could like like something in modern day top five movies of all time i'm gonna tell you another movie i love go ahead the substance substance was good i loved it i like the substance you want to you know what a yo-yo movie was you want to know an overrated movie no Oh, this is where it's hard because it overrated because it had gotten so much praise.

33:17The same year as The Substance. The one about the Russian kid and the prostitute in Brooklyn. Anora. Anora. Oh, Anora. It was like such an example of like we live in the most mid times. I'm going to give you one more. Cool movie. I like Anora very much. But like best picture nominee like? Yes. It's good. No. stop i'm gonna i'm gonna tell you one more and of course i'll tell you this is a very typical dipersine response i will give you one more all right have you seen the zone of interest i that's the one i was waiting for you to say we know you love the zone of interest we know you love the zone of interest quite interesting that zone the zone is very interesting it's an interesting zone um listen i'm on board with you on on most of these i wouldn't put uncut gems that high some people hate how frenetic uncut gems is it makes them very uncomfortable yeah that's the point um we are talking well we're talking random movies currently we're talking halloween sug any big halloween plans by the way none i'm trying to avoid it this is this is philadelphia after all and halloween's on a saturday so it's probably going to be the most dangerous place on the planet so i'm gonna try to avoid.

34:40With that, it's a good time. Speaking of dangerous people in Philadelphia, it's a good time to check in with Zach. Zach, are you going to avoid being outside in Philadelphia on Halloween? Are you going to go out? Remains to be seen. We're planning on going to a bar, but... Oh, yeah, see? He's who I'm trying to avoid. Helfinator's going to a bar. He is who I'm trying to avoid. Where do you live? I'm in Mount Airy. I'm in Mount Airy, so I'm good. Yeah, you are. You're a little far away. Yo, we should go to a bar with the health and a dirty. Totally disrespectful. Do you want my Halloween take now?

35:21Oh, yeah. Let's dip, dip. Give us your big Halloween take. This is a big one. My biggest pet peeve with Halloween costumes are people that dress up as niche things from film and TV shows, and you have to ask them what they are and they need to give you a big explanation. What is the point? Or they have to label it or they have to label what it is with some sort of like drawing on it. Yes. Just be Dracula or Frankenstein. Is that too hard? Is that so difficult? I would dip on this. Why do you have to be, you know, I don't know. What's a good example? There's so many. I'm from, remember the episode of Sopranos when they see the blah, blah, blah.

36:04Oh, my God. It's crazy. I'm this niche character from Breaking Bad from season two that only appeared in one scene but was sick, man. By the way, SGG had a good one. I'm Andre 3000 from the Hey Ya video. Oh, that's a good one. That's a very good one. Okay, he doesn't even remember that. Yeah, exactly. That's good. Thank you, SGG. That's good. now could you just pull off like because couldn't you just pull off the right thing and say i'm andre 3000 or no because then you have to have a thing that's like an outcast shirt yeah right exactly no one would ever know if you could do that you could put on the most andre 3000 you could be you look exactly like him and have put on you have the glasses yes the hair the thing the whole and people would say what are you no that's the worst they might assume that you're not even in costume like if people don't know you they're just like oh look at this you have to make it obvious you have to make it obvious yeah uh yeah i'm with dip yeah maya will be an alien she will be wearing an alien costume and you will know lizzie rain i know but by the way that's that's the exact costume that you have lizzie rain's exactly what you're talking about i know but but for the wrestling community yeah it's different within the community it is different um yeah i'm with you Dipper, are you getting dressed?

37:29You do like to kind of go hard on Halloween sometimes. I love Halloween, but over the last few years, like the costume, Halloween was big at my house growing up. We built a haunted house in my garage for the whole community. Yeah. And then people would come. How big is this garage? Haunted house? It was regular size one, the garage. But it was like a, you know, my parents made it into a haunted house, and they would give out candy in interesting ways, and the whole community would come and see, and the whole neighborhood loved it. It was awesome. it was wow very committed halloween family that is that is very very committed i yeah that's we love i love halloween i really do i really do i really do but you're not doing it this year i'm going to nxt baby you're going is you're not going to dress up at halloween havoc i'm sure i'm thinking maybe zarya or maybe dark state or maybe lexus king yeah i think you should do lexus king am i gotta commit though you gotta commit though you gotta i gotta do but i just got a little i just uh that's not lexus king enough though you gotta put some oh i'll do the whole i'll get the hair i'll do the whole thing i have 24 hours to figure this out do you want to tell everyone the biggest realization you've had when it comes to looks and nxt these days uh maya jayden rosenberg looks like izzy dame looks like it looks like lizzy rain hey dame lizzy rain by the way by the way trying to remember the difference between lizzie dane and is he is he dame that was a fair mess up that was a fair mess you are you are all good dude um so so i i go in i'm seeing all these pictures of rosenberg's daughter maya jaden rosenberg and she's obviously extremely cute and then i finally see her in person and it only reinforced the notion that she looks just like uh lizzie rain by the way you really mean hair mostly in haircut yeah mostly in haircut yet but it's so distinct by the way I would love for her to do a Lizzie Rain costume it's not that hard it's a rock costume figure it out no it's a little leather jacket and she could wear one of those grey shirts that says like property of WWE you know 2026 that's all she's got to do I think that's you have 24 hours you gotta update the year though if you can get her one that says like whatever year she'd be like 20 or whatever by the way um i guess like you know it's lexus king chantel munro debuted on nxt huh yeah any any relation to blake no relation by the way no relation but pretty similar the the chantel character you know the reflection of perfection there is some similarity to the glamour for sure i find it because like people don't even have the same first name in WWE sometimes and they're walking around with the same last name and similar I feel like that's a link up that they gotta make happen at this point by the way I'm happy about this for Chantel you know like in seeing her on Evolve one thing has been very clear about the Evolve thing some people started there and have turned out to be massive stars and are clearly doing it huge you know Cali Kendall Vanity Project etc and then there have been others who I thought could really make it happen and are gone from the company altogether so it's nice to see Chantal Monroe taking that step she was one of those ones that I thought was right in the middle I thought she had enough to go far but I also could have seen a world in which if it didn't fully come together it wouldn't have happened and I'm really happy to see that it's happening for her Dan Housen's going to be there should I just paint my face Dan Housen's on oh yeah he's hosting Halloween Havoc yeah Oh, he could be Dipphausen By the way, Dipphausen, that is something It's not nothing The people have been waiting for Dipphausen This is our first Halloween with Danhausen, right?

41:28Yeah In the company He debuted this year? Yeah, dude The Chamber of Elimination That's crazy Yo, you talk about People talk about best rookie years In wrestling And I know we quantify it with, oh, Brock won the championship in four months. Yokozuna won it in like two months. Kurt won everything by the end of the year. Do we throw Dan Howson in some of the best rookie years in wrestling? Because just like in ring, maybe not. Maybe not. Pro wrestling sports entertainment experience? I think we're talking. The man is entertaining and entertaining. No, if the standard is how fast you become like a part of the zeitgeist, he's in the very, very high level, dude.

42:29The other NXT observation that I made is that Shiloh Hill fixed his teeth. Is that true? Yeah. That's a different person. I didn't know Shiloh Hill had bad teeth or good teeth. He was missing his front teeth, dude. Oh, yeah. By the way, that I did know. He got that fixed? Yeah. I feel like that's a mistake. By the way, it could sail him or it could sink him. I don't know how I feel about it. That was a mistake. I could go as Elio LaFleur. And what would that entail? Pretend I have no idea what that would mean. I have to put his mask on. He's got a great mask. Pretend I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

43:11What do you mean? I think Lexus King might be the move yeah why don't you just dress up as an agent I am I don't have to do that maybe Tristan Angels I'm good looking enough by the way can I please call out the elephant in the room here please all I'm gaining from this conversation is that dip for I'm not stating how long it's been but either this week or last week or this week and last week for the first time in a while really was watching NXT closely. I'm on the roster page.

43:57I was waiting to see how deep he's going to get. Yeah, I know. Cause he's like, what new call-ups he's going to go to get, he's going to be calling out NIL names. you'll be wearing you should wear like you'll be wearing high school football jerseys of people oh dude what if you did kendall gray and you did like a belly shirt with the um with the uh uh you know what are they called i yeah the things that you wear with a suit overalls oh suspenders suspenders you hit the suspenders a little belly shirt dude not a bad idea you could do it by the way i'm noticing a lot of men dressing like women this year very popular a lot of people halloween or just a lot of Susan Dill like no this isn't a political statement there's a lot of people say where do we go with election day no i i'm saying i'm saying a lot of a lot of dude like i saw frank the clown going full woman i saw frank the clown where'd you see him he's in orlando oh of course is there wait is he full-time in orlando yeah or does he just live at disney world i think both can be true by the way i want i want everyone to understand something i work for disney we love disney i have my i have my main entrance pass natalie has her spouse pass is that true oh whenever we want we live we we what you want to go to Disney we dip I got three I got three other passes that I have on me at all times Natalie's telling me to keep it low thing okay but it's but it's true yeah I've asked I've asked for these passes so it's not as low as you think well no real quick though but SGG when you were asking me for passes that was before I knew how the game worked I had I had tickets as employees you get tickets what I didn't realize because I didn't have a kid and I didn't care as much is that those tickets are for friends and family.

45:58You get a gate pass as an employee for you to walk in. I didn't know that. So now I have an actual, like, joint that unless it's a blackout date, you can show up. Anyways, the point is, we love Disney. It's a great time. But these people, the Frank the Clowns of the world, the Matt Cardonas of the world, these Disney people, They're out of their frigging gourd, bro It's crazy They don't leave We went to a dinosaur-themed restaurant And I wanted the biggest, stupidest, bullshit Blah, blah, blah drink that they had That's what I love doing You know, the Cretaceous The Brontosaurus Yeah, the Brontosaurus beverage You know, the whole thing I said, I want the drink to literally explode like a volcano.

46:55I have it. Okay. And I got that. Wait, hold on. Was this at Disney or this is just a random restaurant? At Disney. Natalie and I have to tell you, though, for her birthday when we were in Paris, we had a great dinner at Paris Disney. What's going on at Paris Disney? A lot of cigarettes. There's not a lot of cigarettes. People are smoking cigarettes. A lot of the slim, thin cigarettes. You think the children are smoking cigarettes at Paris Disney? Who knows what's going on there? No, listen, I haven't spent a ton of time at all the Disneys, but I think it felt very similar to regular Disney. Now, I want to do Tokyo.

47:34Yeah. Tokyo's on the list. I would like to do Disney Tokyo. All right, we have some people on hold here. Let's go to Chris in South Carolina, who has something he relates to dip over. What do you got, Chris? Hey, Jeff. Sorry I don't mean to really one-up you here, but me and my buddies in South Carolina, he's got like a sixth of an acre plot, a little postage stamp around his house. But we go out and we build a 12-room haunted house on its property. We have two storage units full of about 4 ,000 to 4 ,500 two-by-fours. About 40 ,000, 50 ,000 screws go into this. We've built pitched roofs so the rain runs off.

48:10It's completely weatherproof. We've built gutter systems so the rain drips off. we see it as an opportunity to you know I have a teenager he's got some pre-teens and they bring their friends from school and we get them to put the phones down for a couple hours and we teach them how to measure how to cut on a chop saw, how to drill things into level, how to run speaker wire, everything every room is on it's own iPad with it's own soundtrack we have a clown room, a white room, a squeeze room so we have these things and we push about 1600 people through and we've never asked for No Jews are involved.

48:47So, yeah, it's awesome. I think. I love that. I I'm jealous. I would love to see that. I've never been to South Carolina in my life. You've never been to South Carolina. Come down. I love that. Thank you. I love. I love that. He heard about your garage where you give out like full size candy bars and maybe have a strobe light. He's like, it's not a haunted house. Yeah. Thank you, Chris. All the things he said. That's what he called. Dude, they're teaching people how to how to build things. and carve things. I mean, there's a lot going on there. He's keeping them off the streets. I appreciate that.

49:21Tip, do you think one day you'd like Dipper Lago to have like a big haunted house for the kids? Yeah, I might be buying that property. What property? Might be buying the property next door, baby. To turn the property into a haunted house? Yes, for this all purpose. That would be amazing. By the way, I've always wanted to have a moat. Maybe doing a moat. you're gonna have a moat yeah yeah i think that about by the way i think it's raw bridge and a moat that is money money well spent would be the uh the moat uh dip also though seeing tomorrow's halloween and you're going to halloween havoc what is your all-time favorite halloween havoc oh 91 easy chamber of horrors the 91 chamber of horrors match is one of my favorite wrestling moments of all time why what why do you love it so much uh abdul the butch is in it we got the Diamond Stud is in it.

50:16I mean, it's one of the coolest, most interesting matches in the history. The lineup in that match, for those not remembering, Sting, El Gigante, Mage, and the Steiner brothers. Highest loves. Beating Abdullah. The Butch. The Butch, dude. The Diamond Stud. Razor Ramon. Cactus Jack. Legend. and Big Van Vader that is a hell of a lineup dude yeah and he and Abdullah the Butcher it was supposed to be Rick Steiner getting electrocuted in the electric chair and he switched Abdullah the Butcher into the chair and he got electrocuted it's one of the coolest moments how much let me ask you a question almost got killed by the falling thing let me ask you a question Yeah, sure.

51:12How much besides that match? That's the only match I picture Abdullah the Butcher on TV. That's what I picture. How much actual WCW work did Abdullah the Butcher do? I feel like it was around that. 91 was the main year. I think I would say he entered in early 90. No, early 91 and left in early 92. He wasn't there after that. I think he went back to Japan. let me see if it's listed here. He was so mage. I finally got an opportunity to meet him with Ted wrestling for sale, and he stuck a fork in my forehead. How did it feel? I made. And then, yeah, yeah. It looked like, it looks like here. He was introduced to WCW at a giant gift wrap box.

52:03Yeah. The giant box was Sting's birthday gift from cactus. Jack 91. Yeah. Sting unwrapped his gift and Abdullah attacked him, leading to both Abdullah and Cactus feuding with Sting after the incident. And then it culminates with the Chamber of Horrors match in 91, in which Cactus accidentally electrocuted Abdullah, as we know, as Dip just said. And then in 93, Abby showed up in ECW, where I had a story with Kevin Sullivan.

52:35What about, I mean, Oz was on that card? by the way though this is where it turns into vintage dip where he'll tell you it's the greatest card of all time and you get like really hyped up and then you go to the next match and it's Big Josh and PN News versus Creatures okay we watched this on a Patreon too first of all Big Josh is doink PN News was one of the first rap characters in the history of wrestling so you should like that Oh, sure. Oh, yeah. Okay. You're the rap guy. Yeah. I had to like PN News. Big Josh came out with actual bears. Okay. That's Matt Bourne to you and me. Yeah. And Oz was on the – that was awesome.

53:26Oz's entrance was one of the scariest entrances. Came out with the Wizard. Oz is, of course, Kevin Nash. And he's a part of that match? No. He wrestled. I think it was Brad. Oh, no. He had a match with Bill Kazmaier. Bill Kazmaier. This card is horrific as time goes on. You've never watched this pay-per-view? No, I have. I have. I just like making fun of when you say overall cards are great. There's so many gaps in it. The mage stuff is made. Austin versus Dustin. Which is a great match. Yeah. Hillman and Ricky Morton. Wasn't a great match. Okay. How about The Halloween Phantom And Tom Zink Yeah you know who the Halloween Phantom was Oh boy Rick Rude Is that when he unmasked

54:22Van Hammer and Doug Summers Tip Love the Van Hammer What about Johnny B. Bad and Jimmy Garvin Sounds good to me See you there

54:34when dip says there's an all-time great card there will be like three great things on it and then the rest is just but it was the set with all the with the graveyard set it was classic it's not halloween havoc 91 is one of the greatest events ever chamber of horrors one of the greatest matches uh sgg do you have a favorite halloween havoc uh memory probably 97 um ray mysterio Eddie Guerrero I think is on that one can you come up with something original what's wrong with that everyone knows that's one of the greatest Halloween Havoc matches but people love 91 too yeah and also I saw what trouble original got you into so I'm just going to go with the crowd original had you out here with PN News and Big Josh Kurt Henning, Ric Flair Lex Luger Scott Hall Savage and DDP and then Piper and Hogan Piper and Hogan wasn't that bad either SUG loves that one Piper over Hogan yeah about time too were you happy at the time?

55:42of course no I don't think I was though actually I think I wasn't that interested in either one of them at that time because I remember on WWF television Jim Cornette like shat all over it he did like a shoot promo talking about how everybody in WCW is washed up and yada yada and I was like you know what yeah he's right these people are old and washed and they do suck and Bret was champ around that time in WWE so I was just like I'm over here yeah you were firmly locked in with the Bret run there let's go to Ryan in Indianapolis who wants to talk stipulations this is a good one Ryan what do you got I actually have two stipulations but with the way the judgment day is going, we could possibly have a custody of Dominic Mysterio match, which hasn't been done in over 20 years.

56:31Great point. And then anything on a pole. Like, the last one was Human Money's on a pole, but before that it was like 2017. But, I mean, you come up with great ones like Viagra on a pole. So. But I like Coal Miner's Glove. That would be fun. They should do a coal miners glove match again. When was the last coal miners glove match? A long time. I don't know. I'm pretty sure a long time ago, but the most famous one is, I believe Halloween Havoc 92 with Sting and Jake Roberts. Come on. Everybody knows that one. Be original, Deb. Yeah, come on. Do they? Pick the other one. That's the one, I think.

57:17What do you mean? Bitch. Let me see. Oh, it was prominently used in Mid-South by Hacksaw Jim Duggan.

57:33And then it was most famously brought to Halloween Havoc 92, Sting and Jake Roberts. Yeah, that's the one I think of. I didn't know there were others. Hacksaw Jim Duggan had the first ever Co-Miners glove match. Wow. You learn something every day on this show. That's the thing. Now, did you guys see the trash talk about the end of Raw with Tiffy's lack of cash in and how much it mirrored 2024? Yeah, it's insane how like almost exactly mirrored it beat by beat. So let me ask you the question. Was that intentional or it literally just was not and happened to happen again? I think it just happened to happen again.

58:25I think have you seen the side by side? No, they did a side by side of 2024 and 2026. And it was the end of an episode of Raw, I believe, in both cases. and it's Tiffany attempting to cash in on Liv and Dominic pulling out Liv and carrying her away to end the show both times. Really? Yes. Yeah. Oy vey.

58:58That was, SGG, you spend a lot of time around Jews. I want you to know that was about as well-placed in Oy vey as you're ever going to hear. that was a perfect or that I'm watching it again to see if it's the same ref even but it's not I think it was the same ref oh yeah it is it is the same ref and I think Raquel's there and by the way back to the point Dip was making earlier two years in this era flies by and it's like you're in the same thing and it's I don't know if it's just because we're older but it really does seem like the development and change in the product now It would take so much longer to happen.

59:41Yeah. Like, does anything feel markedly different than when Cody first got here? Cody's been here, guys, for like six years. Roman's still the guy with the belt. Yeah, not much has changed. Bloodline story still happening. Still happening. Cody's still on top. And by the way, you know what we're not doing? I refuse, okay? We have one more episode between now and crown jewel. And I refuse, refuse to discuss whether Cody is going to turn. I'm not doing it. I'm not playing the game. It's got good. Cause it's not happening. Well, and by the way, and now Cody has even Cody's done what he did a few months ago, which has gone on and done an interview this time with Van Vliet in which he sort of indicates, ah, people are getting a little bit of Cody Rhodes fatigue.

1:00:35just like six months ago he did an interview i don't remember where it was and said oh you're starting to hear about like he is the one himself like likes to plant the seeds in the people are ready to turn on cody and he makes you think it's going to happen even more and then it doesn't happen no it's not happening so not happening this this will be the end though for cody and Randy, right? We will actually move on after this? I don't think so. I think they're going to try to push this to Mania. No, no, no. Dip, do you think there's any chance it's Cody and Randy at WrestleMania? No. Can't be, right?

1:01:16No. No. This is it, I think. Hope it is. But I can see them. Yeah, cue my Kenny Loggins. This is it. It has to be. 877-344-4893. or 893, your favorite Halloween Havoc moments, under and overused stipulations. Will Cody and Randy ever end? Is Cody ever going to turn and just punt this guy in the head, for God's sake? A lot on the table as we continue all with Sheep Heat Live on WWE Radio. It's coming. An evening of unspeakable horror. It's coming. Terrifying destruction. It's coming. A howling good time with the monsters of professional wrestling. It's coming! October 28th, Halloween Havoc 89, settling the score.

1:02:05A pay-per-view event bordering on the edge of insanity. Call your cable operator for availability, if you dare. Ha ha ha ha ha!

1:02:21Welcome back to Cheap Heat. Stay mage and enjoy yourself.

1:02:31I really, I want to break Zach's balls here, but I love that song. But like, that's just, he mailed it in on the last one. He just said, we're doing horror movies. He just goes Stranger Things at the end. I mean, it's not horror. It's a great song. We love the song. I may like the song more than the show.

1:02:51By the way, that song has taken on a great use on my ESPN show, Don Hunter Rosenberg, which is when someone references something random we call it a strange pull and then we play like seven seconds of the stranger things music anytime you have the opportunity to play the start of that song it is a it is a banger um dip you ever had Georgian food no no no I uh you familiar with Atlanta a couple times other to say do you even know that the country Georgia Yes, I do. I'm a very worldly man. No, you are not. You're many things. No, no, you're many things. Worldly? I wouldn't say worldly. You did have fun in Paris.

1:03:35Well, hold on. Let's see also. Did you go to Epcot while you were in Atlanta? I want to go. I haven't been to Epcot since I'm a child. I've never been. But what I'm saying is that's the most dip is getting around the planet. And if he hasn't been there, then we're not going to give him worldly. no he's not worldly this man let me tell you something this man is many things sgg you're worldly where's your next why don't you say something nice about me for once yeah okay all right you're you're very well you're very you're very well put together yeah put together great head of hair great head of hair lovely i like almost all your glasses yeah i was gonna say top tier glasses collection can i can i tell you my biggest here's my biggest do we do enough compliments can i get back to saying negative things about you sure sure i want i want everybody to know the dirty secret about dip this podcast is the only time he pays attention when we're talking anytime sgg when i've talked to him otherwise not about business let me be clear if i call him and it's like a serious business conversation he pays attention but when it comes to personal life as a friend he is the delayed responding staring at his phone thinking about another work thing.

1:04:49If he were my father, I'd be in therapy up a storm. I don't agree. I'm begging for attention. Come on. You don't think you're... You can't admit that over the last couple of years you've gotten lost in the phone a little bit. You're lost in the phone. I am lost in the phone. I don't like it either. You don't like it. You've said that. I'm not scrolling when I'm talking to you, though. What are you doing? You're getting texts. No, I don't know what I'm doing. The other day when you were here, you set up shop on our couch. We had a lovely moment you and Lizzie Dane got some time together which was nice is it Lizzie Dane Lizzie Ray how could they do this how could these people do this can we just admit someone's not paying attention to the name thing someone didn't even remember when they did Chantel Monroe no one remembered Blake Monroe they completely forgot from him you were hanging out with Lizzie Rain aka my daughter Maya had a great time no you had a great time but then after a little while now me and natalie are there and let me tell you sgg he sits up there he puts his little feet up on the couch he starts relaxing my little feet and he and he just starts scrolling through the phone that's okay but you were too by the way let me just say you are this scrolling of comment obsessed lunatic of the cinch well maybe if you talk to him he wouldn't thank you sgg thank you but i'll say this he's right i don't even know how made you are you have to you have to pathetically look at at people who are losers in their parents basement eating junk food talking about peter rosenberg to care about to have i've gotten better i've gotten better you don't even realize that you're that you're a mage talented guy i i listen i'm but you would agree i'm light years away from where i was i don't he may be a little better that's it sgg don't you think i'm like yes sgg don't you're not giving me light years no i wasn't saying i'm saying light years i'm not saying i'm certainly not giving light years i'm giving you know faster than the speed limit no way um see he's not even paying attention i lost you i lost you what did you say now well because because yesterday i got blindside someone i don't want to get into it someone let me just say someone who i don't know well dm'd me out of the blue to give their opinion on opinions that I'm giving and saying, oh, I don't know if I would be giving those opinions.

1:07:17Someone I don't even talk to. It was a bold move. It was a... It was... It was... It was... There were cojones. There were cojones shown to do this. Did you respond? I did. The cojones would have been to calling you directly and saying these words. the non-cajones is to write it in a direct message on a social media platform there's no cajones involved I guess you're right I'm using the word cajones wrong it was audacity it was audacity I sensed great audacity and dare I say caucasity could this person have texted you or called you this person I believe has my phone number but we do not communicate much which is what makes it like even more annoying.

1:08:11I'll tell you guys off the air. Both of you, I think, will know who the person is, but not know them personally. But it was just like a... I'm not opposed to telling someone if you're concerned for them, but the tone of it just came off as so hatery and weird. It was basically like, stop talking about Drake and Nikki all the time. Was basically what they're saying. And I'm like, well, Nikki's a bona fide lunatic, and the entire world is watching it, and she's literally attempting to make the world a worse place. I'm not going to knock all that out. And Drake is a huge star who does interesting and weird things.

1:08:50I mean, these are popular people. I have a job every day. Yeah. Let me tell you what I don't do. I don't sit down at the dinner table with Maya and go, you are not going to believe, Maya, who went to Drake's birthday. but when Ebro and Laura and I sit down to do the ELR show every day Greg these are the topics of the day it might have to come up Drake, SGG have you ever given away 2 million dollars of door prizes at a birthday party I should have no dip were you at the 40th next year because this is a conversation that could affect all of us on this call will you give away at least a million dollars in door prizes I'm going to tell you, I may be giving away as the grand prize, a bidet automatic toilet bowl.

1:09:41Oh, my God. I'm thinking maybe I give away different kinds of toilets. I'm going to give away a Talos, a toilet, some string cheese. By the way, some Dramamine for the plane. What about a Birkin?

1:10:06maybe maybe i appreciate that aim high i have a whole you know i have a plethora of birkins in my uh in my uh shelving in my closet so i may i may bring out one of the birkins and give out one of the birkins i will tell you i'm gonna say this now i'm doing this much just to annoy the person who wrote me and told me to stop talking about drake if we're just being honest is there anything weirder than giving out door prizes to your birthday party? I think it's nice. I'm not saying it's not nice. People won like$500 ,000. But that S-U-G, if you were really rich... Do you want a Birkin and that Drake's birthday?

1:10:44Sure. I'll take a Birkin at Drake's birthday. Sure. I would love to be able to say, I go see my mother in Florida and she goes, Brian, you get any swag recently? Anything from me? And I hand her a$35 ,000 Birkin first mom good news i went to drake's birthday and i won this 35 000 bag i thought you were gonna say when you wouldn't it be nice if when you went to visit your mom when you opened the door you heard like and your mom came running out and was like dip match worn razor ramon trunks just for going home to visit your mother yeah now we're having a conversation yeah yeah now dip is going to have a conversation with his mom he's like why haven't you ever done that actually um so guys we need to have a conversation speaking of which about what we're going to watch on patreon this week dip i think we already did havoc 91 we did so that's how so in in in order to please the patrons i think we need to like you know freshen up so where could we go Halloween Havoc wise that's not 91.

1:11:56He's going to say 92. 89. By the way, dude, Sting and Muda versus Flair and Terry Funk in the main event of Chamber of Halloween Havoc, 89, major. Now, I do have a couple of things here in the mailbag. Rosenberg Wrestling at gmail.com to you and me. I had a message from Brian Follin he wrote us a couple of times and he said as a person who loves wrestling and thinks it's great and also loves trivia and thinks it's great I love when you guys did the cheap heat trivia slam back in the day I was thinking you might consider doing another one for a Patreon episode if you're interested I took the liberty of putting together a Jeopardy style board of wrestling trivia questions attached it's set up so that whoever is reading the questions can also play along.

1:12:53It's an Excel sheet where the answers are in the cell next to each question, even though they appear to be blacked out. Just click on that cell and the answer will show up in the formula bar at the top. There are six categories with five questions in each and one final Jeopardy question. If Dip doesn't do Patreon anymore, maybe a peckerhead gets involved or another member of the JWU. I hope you like it. You can use it. If not, that's cool. Keep your socks up. Brian, keep your socks up. By the way, we are in business. We are in business with keep your socks up. We are in business. By the way, Dip.

1:13:36I'll never stop. Shut up. Keep your socks up. You heard him. Dip, there's not a person who agrees with you on this. You have to be able to take it. No one agrees. I think the whole world is crazy. I'm the only normal one. I know. I'm the same way. Socks scrunching scandal. Now, do you want me to throw a random question at you guys to see if you think? Yeah, this this is good. Yeah. All right. Here are the categories. Give us one from each category. Give us one. Here are the categories he has. OK. Wrestlers by faction. OK. Gimmick pay-per-views. Name games. Mage debuts. The Bloodline and Celebrity Wing.

1:14:23Let's start in the Celebrity Wing. Let's start in the Celebrity Wing. Why are you saying? Oh, my God. He didn't hear 89. He didn't hear. By the way, and him of all people. Wait till he gets this question. Wait till he gets this question. Oh, and then there's the final Jeopardy. Okay. What talk show host did Roddy Piper famously spray with a firing signal? Exactly. At WrestleMania 5. We just talked about this. was it Morton Doughty yes Morton Doughty Jr yes of course that's the answer but I don't know how he said you click on it and you can see and then look at the bar up top is this trivia so you click on the cell it'll show up top it won't show in the cell but like he says it'll show up top what does that mean up top so there's like a when you click on the cell there's a bar up top that shows you like all the words that are in the cell or like it shows you what the value of the cell I don't see that working.

1:15:17You can show me later. We know the answer anyway. Pick a category. Mage debuts. All right.

1:15:28When did Scott Hall first appear on WCW to invade and start the NWO? Month and year.

1:15:38We just went over this pretty recently. Wasn't it May 96? I would say that's right. I think that's correct, SGJ. But unfortunately, I don't know how to get the answer. That sounds right. Do you want to forward? I can forward it. At least you're able to do it. It's definitely the summer. It's the summer of 96. Yeah, but he won a month and a year. That's how it was working. Okay. SGJ, let me throw you one from the bloodline. Okay.

1:16:14Not a member by blood. But this WWE legend joined the new head shrinkers under the name Sione in 1994. Oh, that was like the barbarian. He was, I forget his name. Sione. He teamed with Meng also. Sione? Sione. Dip, were you into Sione as a kid? Of course. That is such prime Dipperstein era stuff right there. But didn't the question say that his name was Sione? Yeah, it said Sione. Yeah, yeah. So it wants to know the name name. Barbarian? I don't know his name name, but he was the barbarian. That's his name, okay? We don't need to name the barbarian. His name is Barbarian, okay? That's it. Question correct.

1:17:00Next. Fair point by Dip. Fair point. All right, let's go back to the mailbag for a second. All right, we might have to do that. Maybe we'll, guys, maybe we'll dive more into that on Patreon this week. Yeah, that's fine. If we can figure out how to get it. Trivia, I'll destroy anybody. With that era. Noel writes us and says, Peace to Sweet Pete, SGG, and Lord Dipperfeet. I have a question. So Ric Flair made Sting. Brett made Stone Cold. And Taker made Jeff Hardy. Is that what you think? I don't know that one. Taker made Jeff Hardy. That one, there are other places to go there. We'll go with you on that one.

1:17:43Okay, made Jeff Hardy. And then he said, did Hulk Hogan actually make anyone? You can make an argument that Hogan made The Undertaker, but that kind of falls flat. Since Hogan basically never did jobs and only worked with top stars. Yes, Dip, we know that Hogan wrestled Moondog, Spot, or Rex on a random superstars. Did he actually elevate anyone and make anyone? Goldberg. Boss man. WWE? Nobody. boss man w gober eight boss man into what into a single star okay i feel like bossman was already a thing i don't think he was elevated by the hogan feud particularly he was totally elevated by the hogan feud looked at that painting behind you and just the first thing you saw was no and that was behind you but he did by the way speaking of moon speaking of moondog uh Rex and Spot, can you see them?

1:18:40Yeah. It's right to the side of your head. SGG, do you like that Maya will point to any of the white guys with facial hair and just go, Daddy. That's hilarious. That was fun. We will get back on Patreon that we're doing Sunday. We will get back to more of those trivias. GPE Live on Patreon. Thank you to Zach and to Kelly. Dip, have fun at Halloween Havoc. Thank you, Mage. dress up as Moondog Rex dude not a bad idea S-U-G stay safe Zach I hope my commanders crushed you guys on Sunday night everyone have a wonderful weekend stay mage and enjoy yourself