Fresh Off His Bare Knuckle Win | Victor Ortiz | Coffeez with Joe Shalaby Ep. 309

36:10Because he was the best fighter? That's what Oscar said. Now, mind you, on the same token, for the same date, Amir Khan fought that same day. He fought in London, England. So Oscar De La Hoya went to London, England and fed me to the wolves, so he thought. So I went from college to my college classes. I knew I had midterms coming up. so I went and I asked the deans if they can give me the time off to uh go and chase my dream

36:49in a nutshell it was uh do you know what the statistics are to go do something of that caliber I said excuse me but what I tell myself between my ears is what's going to happen I make my own statistics oh and you're cocky no just very secure right well let's make this very easy for you um it's either you um you do your midterms or you're gonna fail the classes and I said well is there any way of me making up the midterms right now I'll pass them all or let me just go fight and then I'll come back and I'll do the midterms that's not how it's going to work. We would advise for you to just drop the classes.

37:35You're going to fail everything.

37:39Thank you. Dropped all my classes, so I didn't fail nothing. I go to my job for Red Bull, and I asked Ray at the time, my boss, beautiful person, Hey yo Ray Bro I'm fighting for the For the championship Do you mind if You know you give me some time off Well Vic That's a lot of days bro Like I know It's okay though I'm gonna be a little champion brother If you can't give me that time off I understand Goes I got you covered Vic Go show him what you're made of Thank you Now I go to my Construction site we're building condos off of wells road hey cabron what's up hey dude um i need some days off bro i'm gonna go you know capture a championship right away check it out if you don't come back with that belt don't come back at all all right gotcha you got it So I get to Connecticut, and I remember, man, arriving to the MGM Grand in Connecticut.

38:58And I was like, whoa, posters of Berto and myself. And I'm like, wow. But I don't know nothing about betting, but it had like, from what I understood, I had zero chances of winning the fight. so i didn't even care whatever but where it smacked me across the face was when andre bertal's promoter and his girlfriend came up to me ortiz ortiz come here come here ortiz hey what's up brother how you doing i'm not gonna say his name how you doing man good to see you says Victor I need you to meet my girlfriend this is so and so oh hi so and so I'm Victor nice to meet you she goes no no yeah yeah so babe this is a tomato can that we hired to get knocked out tomorrow night by Andre Berto

39:55ma 'am with all due respect please excuse my language but your man here just effed up a really beautiful career I'll see you tomorrow excuse me I walked away. Allegedly, that promoter contacted my manager and said, what the F did you guys do to Victor Ortiz, bro? He looks possessed. He responded with, you guys pissed him off. He's going to be the world champion. So now everybody was panicked. And then we go to war. And it was a war, let me tell you, bro. fight of the year I knew I won the fight so I was like this even if they were to even say remotely that they gave the fight to Berto I was like whatever I don't care I won that fight my skull was cracked from here to here this ear was ripped off all this hand was shattered this was broken I didn't care I left it in the ring I said God please give me favor tonight and he did I come back to work I was having such a hard time just taking in the fact that I became a world champion that I made sure I was home to clock in for Red Bull.

41:14I was like, I got to go to work. I was like, I got to go to work. You were world champion, then you went to work the next day with the crack school? It's crack school staples. It's the funniest thing. That's what you call hard work, bro. So check it out. That's grit to another level. Check this out. So I'm at, I'm at. I hope Red Bull give you a raise. No, no, no, no, no. It was just, it was just at 950, no, 850 an hour. Hey, so check this out. So I'm sitting there and I'm, I'm, I'm stacking at Walmart on Rose in Oxnard, California, on my knees. I'm stacking up the, the Red Bull. That's, I have a Red Bull case right here.

41:58Two Red Bull cases. I have the dolly and I'm stacking up the fridge, stacking up the fridge. And then as I'm putting the Red Bulls in the fridge, a guy says, hey, I feel like I saw you fight. I looked at him. I'm all jacked up. You know, my eyes are still messed up and my ears sewed on and stuff and my hands. I'm all jacked up, swollen everywhere. I was like, oh, yeah, that's pretty cool. He goes, did you fight this weekend? And I was like, you saw me? No, no, no. This guy fought on the East Coast. You know, the guy, he went to war, man. so you're working for Red Bull. I was like, yeah, yeah. What was his name?

42:54He says, Victor. What's his last name? He says, Ortiz. And I go, yeah, that was me, bro. He goes, no, no, no, this guy was on TV. I was like, HBO? Yeah, HBO. I was like, okay, right on. No, no, this guy has a tattoo on his back like this. And I go, could it have been this one? He goes, oh, crap. Dude, you're working for Red Bull. what are you doing and i go gotta pay my bills bro he goes can i please get a picture with you look at how the world works i go yeah yeah sure can you please sign this red bull for me i go yeah i got you bro so i i'm getting a marker and signing the red bull for him i go hey hey hey just one thing for you bro just before you go you gotta pay for that red bull because that's not coming out of my check homie look at look at look at craziest thing happens you know i meet my beloved wife we have a beautiful boy together her nina says victor yes ma 'am i don't think you know this man but um he's a dear friend of mine okay you signed a red bull can for him in 2011 after one of your fights huh yes you were stacking a refrigerator and a man came up to you named mike i go i don't know mike but i know i signed that red bull can did he ever pay for it i said you're joking what full circle so my wife's nina knows the man that has the can from 2011 that's crazy really crazy that's yeah that's for sure divine intervention oh my gosh it was yeah no there's no coincidence coincidences there's just like there's no accidents it is it was strange it was beautiful that's amazing oh oh oh i want now we go back to the college thing right i had asked the the deans right for the time off the dean said um you know it's silly to think that you can go and conquer the world x y and z the statistics statistics say otherwise blah blah this and that what i tell myself between my ears is not what you think i believe in myself x y and z they pretty much made me make a choice to drop all the classes if not i was gonna fail whatever cool i drop all the classes i come back now my brother's in college at the time they don't remember who i was and who i am your brother doesn't no no the the teachers the deans, everybody.

45:41So they asked me, can you please have your brother come talk to the classes? So I bring my belt. Of course. And I said, yeah, absolutely. What kind of message can you share with this class today? I was like, yeah, you know what? There's always going to be people who don't believe in you. And you? Just accept it. It's okay. But you must believe in yourself no matter what happens. Who knows? Maybe one day you want to make up a midterm and that day just doesn't come about. Maybe you'll have to drop your classes, you know, stuff like that. I never told him who I was, but I signed everybody's autograph.

46:23I signed everybody's thing, took pictures of everybody graciously. And I didn't even bring it up. Just walked out of there. Felt like a mic drop moment. Before mic drop was a thing. Yeah, way before. Yeah. But still, you know, it was interesting. Welcome to the Coffee's Challenge. Today we have an absolute special show for you. In the left corner, we got one of the world's biggest social media influencers, Asher Lara, weighing in at 99 pounds at 5 '11". He's going to take an absolute beating from world champion Victor Ortiz, the former WBC champion and headlining this month, bare knuckle boxing.

47:12We got Victor Ortiz who's about to lay a whoopin' on Asher Lara. Let's see. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Is it too late to cancel? Oh my God. Oh my God. Now Asher, be on the floor, be on the floor. Tisky gotcha, gotcha. Damn, bro. That good? Yeah. That's good. Did becoming a world champ feel the way you thought it would? You know, it's interesting. I won the championship, how a world champion is supposed to win a championship.

47:50I can't speak for other champions, but I know when a champion is made, I know when one is not. What makes a champion? A champion is going through the adversity, through the ugly, through the nastiness, you know. You fight everybody, you fight anybody. I'm not on a, my record isn't perfect. But you look at my record, I fought anyone and everyone. In today's generation of boxing, it's a, well, he's got too many wins, you know. I don't want to get a zero, I don't want my zero to go nowhere. Like, nah, bro. Julissa Chavez Sr. says, and Juan Manuel Marquez told me, you're one of us, Victor, which was a huge compliment.

48:32I don't ever want to stomp on no toes or take credit like that, but when Ulo Cesar Chavez or Juan Manuel Marquez tell you something like that, that's just a beautiful compliment. Amazing. Yeah. Yeah, like today's generation is just different, you know? Pansies. Yeah, to say the least. Yeah. I want to talk. You told me the coolest story before we started the show. the show the story about sly sylvester stallone calling you man tell the audience let me tell you the story about when sly called you okay well it's a little embarrassing but it's it's a little in awe really because okay man so i receive a phone call mind you i was doing dancing with the stars right it's a tv show on abc and um not the best dancer in the world no but regardless i did the tv show as i'm doing this tv show i was told that sylvester lone's wife was a huge fan of the tv show the tv show she had told sly sylvester lone like hey there's a kid on the a TV show that's left-handed.

49:56He's Southpaw like you. Well, Sylvester Stallone, he knew who I was. He's a boxing enthusiast. So next thing you know, out of the blue, I received a phone call. It was, hello, hey, you know, may I speak to Victor? I'm sorry. Yeah, this is he? Who's this, if I may ask? This sly. Hey, Victor, Victor, this sly. Victor, you know, I want to talk to you about, you know, are you interested in making movies, you know? And I'm like, wait, who is this? This Sly, you know, I'm Sly, you know, I'm Sylvester Stallone, you know? Now, mind you, this is embarrassing because I didn't know who Sylvester Stallone was.

50:45I know who Rocky is. I know who Rambo is. I didn't know who Sylvester Stallone was. And I surely didn't know who Sly was. so I'm like

51:00what exactly do you want? you know I'm trying to see if you know you're up for a movie you're interested I get pranks my buddies they prank with me all the time boys will be boys they always mess with me I'm like realistically man look don't be calling my phone like this you're playing your tricks what's wrong with you man i hang up i got a phone call again victor victor listen to me you know i just you know i just want to talk to you for a second you know just trying to see if uh you know you have any interest in you know doing a movie or you know i'm like look dog shit realistically bro like this isn't cool man hey you joking with wrong with you bro no no victor victor you know I go, yo, man, realistically, bro, you sound a lot like Rocky Balboa, dog.

51:56You know, hey, Victor, you know Rocky, he don't exist. You know, he's a character. And I go, well, you know what, bro? Again, bro, back up, man. Oh, thank you. You're welcome. The barista. Thank you. No. Thank you. Appreciate that.

52:15So, once again, you know, I'm like, yo, seriously, dude, stop calling this phone. What's wrong with you? I thought it was one of my buddies. You know, my buddies are infamous for playing pranks on me, man. And I fall for it. I'm pretty gullible. I hang up again. So now the third time he calls me back, and I'm kind of between a little heated because I'm thinking, you know, someone's trying to play jokes on me and messing with me. I answer again, hello? Yo, Victor, Victor, you know, listen, listen, Victor, you know, I just want you to know, you know, I got your number from your agency, you know.

52:51I'm like, uh-huh. And, you know, I got your number from, you know, so-and-so, you know, and I just want you to know, you know. I'm like,

53:03dude, wait, who is this? Victor, you know, I just told you, you know, Sly, you know, Sylvester Lone. I don't know who that is. i know rocky is bro i know who rambo is who who knows who sylvester alone is i'm off you know so man i'm like i'm so sorry bro like you just the thing is you sound a lot like rocky balboa man and he says it again well victor you know rocky rocky you know he's made up You know, he's just a character. I don't understand what that means. I'm not an actor. I'm thinking like, bro, like Rocky's real to me, bro. Like, what are you talking about? Like, dude. He goes, look, Victor, you know, we can talk more in debt.

53:54You know, Thursday, you know, 11, 11, 15, you know, don't be late in Beverly Hills. I'm not good with email. I'm not good with email. I'm not good with social media. I'm not, bro. So I kept that in my head. 11 15 thursday morning beverly hills don't be late so it's over with you know my my assistant victor is gonna send you you know the information you know an email mind you i don't check email none of that that morning i called a buddy of mine named victor rodriguez hey vic um you want to come with me to la bro just quick in and out trip just there and back oh hermano well you know i'll join you but the bottom line is i got work at 3 p.m okay well bro it's 9 a.m bro like i'll bring you back promise all right all right cool so now we're like by thousand oaks area and we're driving says hey cabron you don't got the the address i go oh yeah bro it's in my email right there somewhere here the passcode is this this and that.

55:00I get into my path. Bro, it's weird. This dude with a three-letter name, bro. He contacted me yesterday, man. It's the strangest thing, bro. He sounded like Rocky Balboa, bro. It was weird, but that's where we're going right now. And he goes, Sly? That's the name, bro. Yeah. I thought it was like Fry, Shy, Sprite. I don't know, but it was just a three-letter name. He goes, Sylvester Stallone. I was like, yeah, yeah. The information should be in there. He goes, only you, Victor. Only you, bro. What do you mean? God, only you would do something like that. What are you talking about? I'm on the freeway, bro.

55:38I'm coming up on Westlake Boulevard. He goes, Sylvester Stallone? Yeah. Yeah, that's the name, bro. Sly, right? The three-letter name. Yeah. Rocky Balboa? I was like, that is Rocky. That was Rocky, huh? I exit. I park on the side of the road and I'm reading the email and I go oh my goodness bro I hung up on him like three times bro I cursed at the man bro he goes Victor only you dog I go dude we gotta get there on time bro we can't be late bro he goes and did you read the rest of the email I didn't read the email it says come by yourself I'm sorry but we have no time to take you home bro boom we're on the 101 true we we get to uh to Beverly Hills of course leave it to Beaver right first parking spot I see I take it So I'm like, I park, you know, and I go inside and, you know, oh, you know, Mr.

56:48Stallone's not here for the day. And I'm like, well, it's interesting because I actually, you know, I have an email here from and there's a big old Rocky statue right here. And I'm like, that's cool. That's Rocky Balboa. That's awesome. That's so cool. The lady's like, what is wrong with you? I'm like, this is this is cool. This is that is that's awesome. sir how may i help you i go i just you know rocky balboa um sly sly sebastalone he wants to meet this morning he goes well he's not here for the day i go i don't know this is an email yeah how may i help you she's just completely like shoots me down to the point where i said well look I'm here it says 11 15 it's I'm on time just if Rocky shows up tell him I was here okay yeah I was like I just because you know my agency I don't want them to come at me and like I'm irresponsible stuff like that she's like yeah all right wow she shoots me down I'm leaving I'm walking out the door and I see a gentleman by the name of Boaz.

58:05Boaz is the casting director. Victor! Hey, Boaz! How you doing, boss? How you doing, brother? You doing okay? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come, come, come. The lady just told me, like, go home pretty much. Who says this? That lady right there.

58:27Hi, Boaz. I go, hello. I told you. Got a email. Uh-uh. Could you please get Mr. Ortiz a coffee? Boaz, can we get two? Boaz, may I get a pastry too? You know, two of them. A muffin? Yes, yes. Victor, go to the second floor. I'm going to have a word with this young lady. I told you. Hey, thank you for the goodies. I appreciate it. Come on. So we go upstairs. I'm like, yo, this is crazy. Look, dude, that's from Predator, bro. Dude, that's from. We're going around. That's from. There is. What is that? The top or something where the hat where he's arm wrestling? Over the top. Over the top. Over the top, bro.

59:24It's all right there. Over the top, bro. Man, there's memorabilia from all the movies. I'm like, dude, this is crazy. Oh, my gosh. Look at this from Rocky, bro. This is from Rambo, dog. And then I go, I hear, hey, you know, someone's parked in my spot.

59:44Victor, Victor, Victor. Dog, here, here. Here's my keys. No, no, wait. You parked it? I go, please?

59:53So, hey, you know, you know where I come from, you know. We can, you know, that's kind of start some fights, you know. And I'm like, you're Rocky Balboa, dude. That's so awesome. He's like, no, no, no. Victor, Victor, listen, you know. Victor, you know, Rocky, you know, Rocky's a character. I don't know what that means, bro. I don't know what that means. I'm just, you're Rocky Balboa, bro, or Rambo. Who's Sylvester Stallone, bro? I don't know. He's like, oh, geez, kid, you know why you're here today? First of all, why'd you take my spot? I didn't know it was your spot. Victor you know if you weep it says Sylvester Stallone I go I didn't even know I just perked I was excited jeez Victor you know you need some help I know that I know that so then man I'm like I'm in awe he goes so Victor you know why you're here today and I go no I shook your hand right now you're Rocky Balboa bro he's like no Victor you know you know where an audition is and i go no no no oh jesus kid kid you you know all right you know so he grabs this booklet throws it at me boom you know what that is victor expendables three yeah dude this is that one movie on paper right he goes oh geez geez kid She's a kid, kid.

1:01:26And I go, I mean, it's called the script, Victor. Oh. Well, yeah, it's still a movie on paper, though. Really? He's like, all right, Victor, you know, so today, you know, I'm going to take you to this room over here, you know, and we're going to have you do an audition. Okay? Do you know what an audition is? And I was like, trying something, I guess. I don't know. Takes me to this blue room. there's chairs i didn't know what kind of chairs are they're director's chairs right so then there's one guy one guy and a lady and boas and sylvester lone sly rocky right and i am sweating bullets sweating my armpits i'm so nervous and he goes so victor you know everything that that says you know uh that says ma is on it you know you're gonna read it you know and uh you know anything that doesn't say Mars you know you let me read it I was like okay so now there are cameras and everything is rolling and I'm nervous I'm sweating and I can't get a grip of myself mind you I just fought Floyd you know so I was still I was trying to deal with the fact that that fight didn't end how it was supposed to so i still have that anger and that rage you know so he says all right victor you know when i start reading you know just you only thing that you need to do is where it says mars you know you read that yeah oh yes sir don't call me sir you know sir is my father i was like oh sorry about that rocky you know rocky doesn't exist oh my gosh all right uh okay so then all right action you know so then he goes you look like a pug so i'm like this and i'm like tough tough tough brothers tough tough streets and so on you know how that kid do you not know how to read no it's not that um it's not it's not every day that i'm i get to to see rocky barbara victor victor listen you know rocky don't exist i said look with without your respect i said without your respect you know i'm a kid from kansas with with nothing but dreams I said, with all due respect Sly Rocky, Rambo whatever you call yourself I said, you gave a kid like me a blueprint, man I said, you gave me a dream, bro I said I come from nothing, man but you gave a kid with nothing to maybe be able to maybe possibly dream of something to maybe possibly take over the world you gave me that, sir so what no further ado you're rocky sir rocky rocky is very real to me all right kiddo all right let's let's get to reading

1:04:40yes sir you look like a pug

1:04:50tough tough brothers sorry uh

1:04:58sorry uh victor victor look you know acting you know it's just kind of what you want it to be You know You can say your ABCs You know In different ways Victor You know ABCDEFG HIJKMP Or you can say ABCDEFG It's two different things Victor Now let me ask you this When Floyd Mayweather hit you with your hands down How'd you feel? F that mother Ah We found it Do that with delivering what you just said.

1:05:42You look like a pug. Tough brothers, tough streets, and so on. You know how that goes.

1:05:52All right. Let's do a few more scenes. So then he got me to do more scenes and more scenes and he's like, we found Mars. I go, wow, you could have just said that. i didn't say that that was a cool story that was rocky bro i couldn't say that rocky's very real baby rocky's very real yeah you know i want to talk about a couple other things how did the rivalry between you and brandon rios begin you know it's interesting uh i've never really considered it a rivalry um i know this is real kids matter of fact he was one of my bullies growing up in kansas he's from kansas wow he's born and raised in kansas well he's born in uh Lubbock, Texas, but raised in Garden City, Kansas.

1:06:36But since I was a kid, I was a nerd, man. All my buddies were the nerds. We were straight-A students. Yeah, I played the piano, man. I was on choir for school, you know. Didn't mess with people. But Brandon Rios, he was my bully. And the only reason he became one of my bullies is because my dad made me go to that gym, which was the Garden City Boxing Gym, which was ran by Bucky Avila. which his dad, Brandon Rios, his dad was one of the coaches. He's a beautiful person too. His name is Manuel, Manuel Rios, a beautiful man. And that was also ran with Alfred Ritz and Coach Juan Aldana. So all these people were all in the same realm.

1:07:19The difference was I was trained by Bucky, Coach Juan Aldana, and by Alfred Ritz. Meanwhile, Brandon Rios was trained by his father. His dad is a beautiful person. for whatever reason maybe it was me being too fat maybe it was me being a just I had my hair parted sideways whatever it was I just I bothered him and he didn't like me my dad made me go into that gym for the first time ever that I was seven years old and the gloves came up to here to me never even seen a pair of boxing gloves in my life I've never stepped in a gym nothing like that My dad made me go in that gym. It was the SIAC in Garden City, Kansas.

1:08:02And a kid that was in there, had been boxing for a couple years now, had over 50 fights easily. And my dad made me go in there against him. And Brandon Rios had me, he whipping on me from corner to corner. I was crying. I was bleeding from my lips. Of course, you know, this kid is - At seven years old? Seven years old. Thinking that maybe my dad was gonna be like, it's okay, mijo. Like, you know, things happen. he knows you know he's been boxing a long time nope i got to the corner crying my dad took off his belt grabbed me by the arm he's coming down with the first hit boom for crying in front of everybody coming down with the second hit my uh bucky grabbed him by the hand by the arm says you leave that boy alone my dad says to him you could peace you could have that piece of you know he ain't gonna do nothing my dad leaves he storms off i'm sitting there crying Bucky says what's your name I said Junior well it's Victor but they call me Junior he says Junior I'm going to teach you how to box Junior I said I don't want to box Bucky it's not a choice I'm going to teach you how to box matter of fact how about we make a deal okay give me all you got Junior for one month and in one month you're gonna put hands on that boy that made you cry today i went like this crying to smiling a little bit you got it okay the name of the game is boxing it's to hit and not get hit junior okay does the name boxing have fighting in it no sir okay okay Bucky do exactly as I say that's where the three in the morning runs three thirty in the morning runs started that's where all the eating oatmeal cream of wheat stuff like that started from him he started noticing that when they put me right-handed I'm naturally right-handed jab jab one two for some reason I would come back this way so he said to me you're southpaw i said no sir i'm junior he says no you're southpaw i said bucky i'm i'm junior well i'm not junior but i'm victor but it's junior they call me junior you're southpaw bucky i'm junior i'm not southpaw my name is junior well it's not junior bucky it's victor but they call me junior no mijo you're left-handed no i'm not i'm right-handed Then why are you fighting left handed?

1:10:45No, I'm not Position, get into position 1, 2 1, 2, 3 1, 2, 3 1, 2 1, 2 1, 2, 3 1, 2, 3 Jab See? What? You're switching No, I didn't Get back to your position Jab 1, 2 1, 2 1, 2, 3 1, 2, 3 1, 2, 3 1, 2, 3 Why are you switching? I'm not I'm switching I don't know Bucky well you're right handed yeah but this feels this doesn't feel right this feels right you're southpaw you're southpaw my boy what's that it's left handed oh but I'm right handed I don't know how it is Junior but you're southpaw we're going to teach you southpaw so then a little time goes by a month exactly I put hands on Rios for the first time and I felt good about it well we figured out that I'm left handed I just everything was reversed which gave everybody problems I heard from some credible sources about an event that happened at Eva Longoria's Gala what actually happened that night you know that was random you know uh it's actually random you bring that up but boy do I have a story for you uh so you know one of my my dearest friends you know big brother in Christ you know Sal says uh hey Vic we're gonna go to this white party and I go dude I'm brown bro no white party fool like you know I'm like I'm just messing I got you he goes uh all right you know uh many incredible celebs are gonna be there i'm like that's cool all right and then uh so we're there and i'm like i'm enjoying it i see george lopez i see all these big people that's pretty cool and then i go like this and i go i zoomed in like a crosshairs and mind you i've i've never said to this point i've never said nothing about brandon rios i've never said a thing about him and he's bashed me throughout the years for what reason i don't know to feel good about himself i don't know what it was put me down completely made up stories about me that i've done things with certain people no i'm not a disrespectful guy like that anyway he he uh defamed me man murdered my character and um i see him big bro sal goes uh hey vic you good yeah i'm good we were late we were late yeah we were late so then vic you good yeah i'm good George Lopez Hey Victor What's up George You good?

1:13:59Yeah I'm good What are you looking at? I'm gonna use the bathroom We were back I wasn't using the bathroom I was going up to Rio's I was heated Because he had Murdered my character man Throughout the years said so many wrong, ugly things about me. I've never spoke about him. This is my first time ever speaking on record about anything about that guy. I brought him from Kansas to California. I gave him the opportunity to get him signed with Cameron Duncan, top rank, Bob Arum, with the Garcias. I did that. I didn't take credit for it. It says in the Bible, when you give, you give wholeheartedly and expect nothing in return.

1:14:50I don't.

1:14:54But to bash me for only helping? Christ was crucified, bro. That's true. All he did is give. Absolutely. So, for me it hit heavy when my own brother, flesh and blood brother, tells me, what's wrong with you, fool? And I go back up, back up, dude. are you team Ortiz or are you team Rios cause right now you don't seem like you're part of me and you know my brother's grown he's grown a lot of envy toward me a lot of jealousy toward me for years it's okay I've taken it I've taken it all but this particular time I was I was at a place where I hadn't found Jesus Christ and accepted him into my heart as my Lord and Savior just yet think back I never wouldn't have done that now in a million years, but I went up to him.

1:15:51I was trying to throw hands on the spot He had to grab his wife put her between us. We don't want no problems and I'm like, why don't you tell this, you know, it was ugly My dear friend Sal is their big movie, you know producer or you got these big attorneys that are right there next to me. They're like, dude, the guy folded. And I don't say that to be rude or to flaunt it or to boast about it. No.

1:16:30After that, when it was all said and done, we just, we left it there. But I thought for once it was going to be like just an ending to everything. and uh i don't know i haven't seen him since but it's one of those things where he talk about a a dog walking away with his tail between his legs that's what it was and i don't like again again i don't boast people oh you're scared of brandon rios oh you're scared of no no no no there's there was big people in attendance and george lopez had to tell me hey why are you doing that cabron you need to keep it in the ring victor i go get paid for it victor i go i just you know what i'm just sick and tired i don't need to get paid for it for what i was like bro i'm a good person man you gotta bash me like that destroy my character for what what i do to you i was just i i woke up on the wrong side of the bed to say the least and you know what i'm a very a very loving person very forgiving but man don't mistake my kindness for weakness you know

1:17:45yeah no story well i'm glad you put that issue to bed though yeah no it's over with you know i got nothing to say to him i saw him what uh say about two months ago in a fair down in um from Sidney Valley, California. I tried to say hi. I didn't recognize him, but he had a Kansas City hat on. And I was like, oh, that's right. KC all the way, baby. He looked at me. He would not talk to me. Wouldn't say nothing. His daughter waved. I said, hi, Miha. And his wife waved too. But you know what? God bless him. God be with him. That's all you can do. Yeah. Well, let's talk about what we all want to hear about, which is the Floyd Mayweather gossip.

1:18:24the day of the press conference what happened oh man uh well first off he goes uh i think i angered him before the press conference because he was a vic man you got you gotta come at me man and you gotta sell this fight and i go bro floyd let me be honest bro people hate you dog i said um the moment the moment this thing goes on sale dog the tickets are gonna sell like that bro like you're well hated dog he goes oh really it's like that and i go yeah dog you always walk around like you have a golden spoon on that's no like you have a silver silver spoon in your mouth bro you know how it goes he goes yeah platinum i go platinum silver potato potato bro you get what i'm saying i was like floyd again people hate you dog i said i don't hate you but people do bro like i'm telling you this goes on sale i'm gonna tell you right now like that it's it's it's sold out yeah is that right mother and i was like yeah it's right and uh the press conference strikes man and he goes yeah it's like that i was like yeah did you bring your your silver spoon gold oh can i see it and grabs me grabs it by my by my neck and i was like dang you grabbed me hard man that kind of herds but by this point in time i go wait a minute dog he's trying to make you be like some little punk so i honed down i go what's up that mother you know i i went into like a different person in that second and i was trying to attack but his bodyguards grabbed me and grabbed me and and i'm like let's do something you know and they weren't strong enough to keep me away and this dude's like oh my gosh i just messed up oh my gosh help me you know so it was just interesting you know but uh i wasn't lying i mean it sold out right away didn't you give him something you know what um i was yeah it was it was foul but i yeah i was not mind you guys very worldly very worldly um that was bc before christ right got him out i got him a special box it was a box that women use every every month you know uh so i got on a box of tampons bro yeah you got you got floyd mayweather a box of tampons yeah yeah on the day of the press conference you know i was young i was dumb um you know i yeah on the The press conference, yeah, it was very disrespectful.

1:21:01But, you know. How did Floyd Mayweather react when he got a box of tampons at the press conference? He threw it at me for no reason. Just a gift. Think about it. If you think about it, it was just a gift. Let me ask you. What was running through your head to give Floyd Mayweather tampons? Should have got him some track shoes. That was wrong choice.

1:21:32Again, again, it was worldly. I was young. Just dumb, bro. You know, you live and learn, man. I mean, I think you're calling them something, you know. Yeah, that's, you can read between the lines, you know. You've lived life in the public eye for a long time. What do you think that the public has misunderstood about you? Oh, man, the public has misunderstood many things. You know, everyone, one day, I was joking, but sarcastically, because they're like, Victor, something about a heart, right? And I said, well, I just looked on Google, and it says Victor Ortiz does not have a heart, so just be careful.

1:22:17So they're like, oh, come on, Vic. And I was like, that's what they're saying, not me. So, I mean, you grew up without parents. You grew up to take on the world. You grew up against all odds. Statistically speaking, you're not supposed to be anywhere near what someone like me has accomplished. You're not even supposed to graduate from high school, let alone go to college, University of Kansas, KU, fraternity brother. I mean, I don't know, man. No heart. That doesn't really align with me. My name is Victor. victor vicious i didn't make that up and it was given to me so you know it's interesting i just think sometimes people are quick to speak quick to judge yeah um i've seen it i've seen it all well not i haven't seen it all but i've seen a lot you know you live and learn yeah you know i'm really fascinated uh i'm a big kobe bryant fan and there's some rumors that during the time time where Kobe was messing around a little bit.

1:23:26I know where this is going. I know exactly where this is going. During the time where Kobe was going through some drama, you might have been. This is not funny, but it is funny because. Okay. You might have been dating Vanessa Bryant. I don't know if that's true. Hey, this is what I like to say. Wrong Gardner, fool. Wrong Gardner. hey that was the wrong gardener bro so there's no truth to that no heck no check this out so i get to the gym one day one of my buddies names john boy jonathan namock right and then chris adams and then kyle ellison they all got to the gym around the same minute slash you know hour and they're like dude dude and mind you they're all lakers i am not i'm a i'm a celtic since i I was a little boy.

1:24:16I'm from Kansas, you know, and I just love the Celtics. My brother loved the Lakers. We were like this. He was a huge number eight Kobe Bryant fan. I never have been. So he comes in. John Boy comes in. Vic, Vic, huh? I go, what's wrong with you, dog? He's like, dude, oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. Bro, seriously? What are you talking about? Google. Whoa. whoa what is that vanessa bryant who's that so i have to google the woman i'm like oh my gosh no no no no no no they're like what do you mean i was like nah bro i i don't know who that is so i'm like looking at her i'm like man she's not my type i mean i just said that i was young you know she's beautiful woman yeah but hey no not for me anyway it kept going yeah yeah yeah so i don't know who started the rumor where it came from i kind of have some guesses of who may have started what but i'm not sure um i'm out one day grabbing some food and uh they come up to me and ask me about the situation and of course young again right young hollywood public eye just worldly right i said um before any interview on tmz before any interviews take place i just want everybody to know i'm a boston celtic fan i said um nothing against kobe or any of you guys but let me just make something clear i'm not a homewrecker and then of course like stupid i just dumb i quoted bill clinton i did not have sexual relations with that woman just like that just just worldly bro and um i threw jokes in there right but i was being serious because i didn't even know this woman i'd never even been under the saying roof is this woman and uh so anyway this this whole thing took off like wildfire man and and uh oh yeah you know that because i said no i'm not a homewrecker i wish that they they really fixed their issues i'm not like that i don't step into boundaries like that like i i really it's not me and i really hope that you kobe and miss vanessa you guys fix whatever you guys have i I have no idea.

1:26:46I'm out of it. So a few days later, I'm sparring with Manny Pacquiao. I heard you knocked him out, cold turkey. I get punched for a living, so I forget things. So read between the lines. I don't know. So then I was sparring with him and with Michael Katsidis from Australia, world champion, IBF. and as I'm doing all this I see a big old dude walk into the into the gym I'm like whoa oh my gosh that's Kobe Bryant I have sparring gear on he don't like me the feeling's mutual I looked at him and I'm like what's up how's the weather up there dude what's up my bell's about to ring I come back in and he's just staring at me I'm looking at him too like what you looking at bro like it was it was like uh-uh so i just it was like this bro uh but it was heartbreaking when he when he passed just for the world you know i was not a laker but i mean i i feel for the loss of his kids and his wife and and but truth be told jesus christ in my heart that is not my place that is not where I went with it, that, no.

1:28:06I don't know Ms. Vanessa Bryant and never met her. Again, I don't know who started the rumor, but it's interesting because about six months ago, it said, maybe seven, I don't know, it says I got a little bit of a screenshot and it was the last five people that Vanessa Bryant dated before the passing of Kobe Bryant. Whoa, time out, dog. I mean, I made top three, but anyway, anyway, I'm just kidding. I'm just joking. I was like, oh, my gosh. So my wife says, are you serious? You know, she knows I'm just joking. I'm like, babe, that did not happen. I said, I promise on my three sons and on us, no.

1:28:56I don't know the woman. And that's when I say, hey, man, they say, oh, we saw Vanessa Bryant and Victor Ortiz right here by the airport, kind of, what's it called? John Wayne? No, no, no. It's right before you get it. It's off of Lincoln between Venice and the airport. Oh, in L.A.? Yeah, right here. Yeah, it's not far. Anyway, they're like, yeah, we saw them. there having breakfast i'm like you know there's a lot of mexicans right like it wasn't me bro and i don't think i mean i'm probably shorter than her i don't know i'm only 5 '9 she looks fairly tall man i mean kobe bryan was really tall and and when you see them next to each other they're like compliment each other's height so i don't know man i'm i'm not that tall bro You're not her type either.

1:29:50Yeah, I'm not her type either. No, no, no. I'm too, no, no, no. When did you realize that boxing is as much of a business as it is a sport? And it's a pretty twisted business, like a ruthless business. You know, I didn't really realize that boxing was a ruthless business until I lived it, right? Again, the betrayals, the false promises, the neglect, the heartbreak. But when you figure it out, you live free.

1:30:28I take everything as a grain of salt. Promoter this, promoter that, a fight here, a fight there. It's a grain of salt, man. um i don't know if it's always been that way but what i've seen in the last you know 23 years as a professional boxer i've seen a lot you're gonna have a good answer this one but looking back over your career do you think there was people that you trusted that you shouldn't have man looking back on my career bro trusting in people who don't deserve it not even the time of day right Oh, yeah, absolutely. You know, but I believe it all came down to one thing in the end, and it was the decisions that I ended up making, right, following Jesus where he said, for what would it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul?

1:31:30And that for me, bro, that's where it's at, man. again you know those people who've done their wrongs who've done their dirty they know it they don't need to be called by name just looking at me right now i can assure you some of the closest next to me and around me guarantee you they're burning up inside because i'm back we're talking about that mother ever supposed to be dead why hi i'm back i'm back yeah so happier than ever yeah bro i why not man i have another day of life i have three sons royal malachi ezekiel i have a wife man i mean somebody wanted to marry me why wouldn't they bro you're a good looking guy sweetest guy oh thank you bro no no it's uh very blessed brother you are blessed yeah you know unlike most boxers you you've lived like you you've went through so many chapters boxing television movies and now there's a new chapter you're beginning bkb bare knuckle boxing the most brutal combat sport in known to mankind yeah that's a whole new chapter you're taking it on at 39 already a champion is there anything that innately feels you know worrisome about that or how do you feel about that going into that next chapter we talked about this earlier but what do you think for the audience you know going into this next chapter I believe I've found my peace and comfort within just trusting Jesus Christ brother this whole fight experience this whole opportunity that presented itself it literally came from Jesus bro I prayed to him day in and day out I fasted three days no food no water I said God this is what you want me to do allow it to be so but if not close the door but I do ask you if you close the door I don't ever want to hear the word boxing ever for as long as I live I will serve you day in and day out and I don't want to hear the word boxing but you have to be clear to me transparent

1:33:50glory to him because hey he showed up through and through beautiful so now that's it this new bare knuckle boxing chapter is open yeah and who knows you're gonna probably be the champion you're headlining whatever God's will is brother I don't make the will of God you know I just follow it you are about to be the biggest fighter that BKB's ever had biggest brand the biggest name and hopefully you continue with that message once you get that you know next belt you know what that's there's there shouldn't be regrets in life right but i could i could honestly tell you right now brother that there was one thing missing maybe a few when i was the reigning world champion the young cocky conceited all about me type person that was jesus bro he says he caused us to be built on the rock the rock which is jesus god i wasn't i was built on sand bro those years and i'll tell you right now there's no limit brother in boxing what's one fight that you wish would have happened and in bkb what's one fight that you want to happen I believe a fight that got away that slipped from me, from my fingers, was Canelo.

1:35:14Canelo, huh? Saul Alvarez, a.k.a. Cinnamon Rolls.

1:35:21Very well protected. Very well guarded. But you know what? Hey, they did their thing with him. It is what it is. but in this day and age this new chapter, this new journey line them up bro we're here, we're present we're ready let's go Victor, what do you hope that your children remember most about you? oh man, what do I hope my children remember about me is my dad was a God fearing man my dad put Christ Jesus before anything and anyone but daddy, you're the world champion. No. Jesus Christ is Papa. Daddy's but a servant. That's all. 20 years from now, what do you hope the world remembers about Victor Ortiz?

1:36:16Just that, hey, 20 years from now, I really hope that they remember me for my, for my faith, for the message, for the gospel, for the glory I gave to God, for the, the, the lives that I, the souls that I want for the kingdom of Jesus, bro. This is all materialistic. We're here for the time being, man. 20 years, what? I'll be, I'll probably have a, I'll be on a, what do you call it? A wheelchair with some row rider wheels on it. I'm just kidding. I'd be funny though. But no, no, it's just, it's materialistic, brother. So as long as my boys 20 years from now, I can raise them with love, integrity, and honor, then I've done something right, bro.

1:37:05But most importantly, with Jesus Christ at the center of it all, built on the rock, then I've done something right. Not perfect. We're trying. We're all trying. We're all fighting this good fight together. Yes, sir. Now we're going to start this wonderful game show. Yeah. It's called What Would a Champion Do? You're getting booed as you walk into the arena. What does a champion do? Keep going. Keep trucking. You're down on the scorecards, heading into the final round. What's a champion do? Buy down on that mouthpiece and give it your all and try to go for the knockout. Your team and fans don't believe you can do it anymore.

1:37:48What's a champion do? Smile and watch. your child says i want to quit what's a champion do get up puppy do it again money starts changing your friendships what's a champion do leave it alone man money is it can be the root of evil but it can be a route to help stay on that stay in your lane you know money is not going to make you're happy when your combat career is finally over what's a champion do that's actually the hardest one you've asked give back brother as much as you can from your children to just other people you know um it's interesting because everyone says oh you're gonna be a great boxing coach but realistically i've always said no no no when my chapter's over it's over but if my sons want to box and we have to protect those boys man I know the game very well so I can help matter of fact I've been helping a lot throughout the years you know youngsters and up and comers and what not I think the wisdom that I've gained it's allowed me to help people hey papa don't step on that mind man careful hey don't get bit over there hey careful back there you know I don't tell them what to do but I'm like cuidado eh careful Victor you've been an absolute blessing to have on this show I hope to have you back again if people want to connect with you learn more about you and maybe they want to be drawn to Jesus again maybe they need to hear the word of the Lord maybe they need some comfort if they want to connect with you how can they find you yeah absolutely Instagram it's I-T-S it's it's it's it's V-O-R-T I-T-S It's V-O-R-T-I-Z.

1:39:40People are like, oh, it's Vortiz. I'm like, no, no, it's Vortiz. Reason behind that is somebody stole my name one day. I'll sell it back to you for$50 ,000. And I go, nah, dog, I'm good. You can have it. So then Twitter or whatever it's called nowadays, it's Vicious Ortiz. What is that other one? TikTok? I don't even know. I think it might be Victor Ortiz WBC. I don't know. I'm not the media person. But that was fun. Yeah, check me out on Bare Knuckle Boxing. I think it's bareknuckleboxing.com. Let's go. Yeah, and I just hit a young man named Asher so hard. I think I maybe punctured his lungs or something.

1:40:24I don't know. We got to check him in a little bit. Yeah, let's go check him out. Hopefully he's alive. CPR or something. It's brutal. So sorry, guys.

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