Beast Games finalists confront MrBeast (Beast Games Reunion Episode)

24:00And I'm like, oh, he's doing it. Like 100 % he's doing it. I just want to make him feel good about it. You did make him feel good. You're like, never in mankind, Jade. Never in mankind. And then Gator's like, never in mankind. Hey, first ever. I mean, Guinness Book. Are you kidding me? That's right. He made you rich. Made you rich. Richer. Richer. Richer. Yesi. That memory challenge. I don't even remember. Do you think about that pattern? Oh, dude, absolutely. Still, I can imagine walking down the street, you know? Dude, I... What's crazy is he even told you? It was to the left. You know what?

24:41So, okay, so before we went into that challenge, we were put on ice, which is essentially when we can't speak to anyone. And I had just gotten told, like, hey, watch out for Jeff. So I was already... By Tawana. She had told me, like, hey, like, be careful. Oh, it is T. No, no, no, no, but hold on, hold on, okay? Like, Jeff and Gage are in Alliance, and I kind of thought Tawana was in there, but then she wasn't really in the Alliance because she was just cool with everyone. So I was already like, dang, Jeff wants to take me out? I was like, well, why? I was like, oh, because this is a game. I was like, oh, why am I so dumb?

25:24If you made it across, who would you have eliminated? You know, after thinking about it, I do think it was going to be Gage. I'm sorry, Gage. I just, so in the tower, you lied to me, buddy. I helped you and you lied to me. So I was like, Gage. And then after. See, I don't remember that actually lying to you specifically and with the intent. He's like, I just kind of lied. It wasn't like a serious lie. I think it was misinterpreted because my intention was to say that I didn't. that I didn't you're just one of the three people he thought he could vote for no in that moment that's just like what I had remembered and after that like during the ball toss you never looked at me or you never said anything to me whereas Jeff he told me immediately straight up like hey you know what this was just part of my strategy like I'm sorry no hard feelings and I respected that you know like immediately and of course Tawana had just helped me out in the tower so Jeff helping me out with the pattern, I was already like, all right, he's good.

26:23But in that last moment, when Jeff told me to scoot over one right, he like touched his beautiful, beautiful hair. And I was like, oh man, Jeff doesn't know either. I'm cooked. And I was like, you know what? I'm just going to bet on myself because that's a decision I'm never going to regret. You know, every single time if I lose by betting on myself, I'm proud of that decision. Wow. Give it up. That's a beautiful statement. And so, so if you did make it across, it would have been gauge and then would you have taken the million dollars? Oh, absolutely. Dude, you would have, you would have shown the money.

26:57So it would have been, it would have been the same outcome. She just would have got the million instead of gauge. Yeah. Yeah. No, I would have never like taken this away for, I mean, Jeff, I know your family. We, we had just met them before that million dollar bribe. And then with Tawana, we essentially had the same dream, building a shelter. You know, we grew up similarly, so I couldn't take that away from them. That's beautiful, Jesse. Patrick, you are awfully quiet over there, man. You haven't asked me a question yet. I'm about to right now. So I had a lot of time to spend with these guys on set, and every time I would see Patrick, he would tell me these rules of beast games that he would come up with.

27:40And I want to play a clip that we prepared that people didn't see on the show of me Asking Patrick about a few of those rules and him getting a little cocky Puppet master Patrick Rule number one listen to clits rule number two ask questions Rule number three trust your friends and rule number four don't take Jimmy's bait And since looks like four people are getting out tonight. That's all I'm gonna get you wait. There's more rules Oh yeah, there's ten. The top ten rules of Beast Games. What's rule number five? Rule number five of Beast Games? Yeah. Well, I guess I'll have to tell you when I see you tomorrow after I make it.

28:18Oh!

28:23Did you see them tomorrow? No.

28:31Tell us a bit more about your rules of Beast Games and just some of the psychology. Like, you were breaking down every little detail. You know for years I always wanted to do this show called Survivor and it was just a dream of mine growing up And it was something I wanted to do to help my parents out And then we heard about this show called Beast Games and I had tried to Maybe like apply to be in one of their videos and that was always the goal is to help my parents out with the money I got and so for three years I didn't take a vacation at my job just for the chance that I would maybe get some opportunity like a different show Like saving up PTO so you could take time off?

29:07Literally, yeah. So, like, my family would be like, hey, we're going on a vacation or we're going to, like, go have dinner or do this in this other city. I'm like, yeah, I got to go study this video. Like, I'm trying to figure out challenges. And so, anyway, long story short, I get into the show, and one of the things I, which I love when people make fun of, like, I love being butt of the joke, but I really stood by don't take Jimmy's bait, and here's why. We got screwed in cubes. What they don't show is that we had a rest day before the cubes in episode 3 and cubes before that we had a rest day And then we had like a dance party that night that they don't show that was so Fun day epic and so I'm like my friend comes up to me He's like you're having fun, but like you look a little pensive and I'm like, I don't know man I got a bad feeling Jimmy's gonna screw us tomorrow and it was a Brennan shout-out 7-eleven and so it's like 3 a.m And so for like 40 minutes, I just like tell him some theories and he tells me what he thinks.

30:07And so the next day we do a sack race. Seems like it's going to be fun, right? And I'm like, oh, dang, I got it wrong. Okay. And then right after sack races, I look up because me, Brennan and Matt are right in front of the cube. Jimmy's above us. And he's like, guards, handcuff them. And I'm like, oh, my God, we're screwed. And so I really had my guard up for Jimmy, you know, having some kind of trick on us and a challenge. And so when it came to episode eight with Million Dollar Bribe, I thought, all right, well, I'm just going to take zero. You know, it's either it's either an advantage or a disadvantage.

30:45I want to make a bowl play that I can be proud of and stand by. And so I decided I'm going to take zero dollars and it's either going to be awesome and I'll have an advantage in the next challenge. maybe you have to carry the weight of your money maybe it's some advantage just in that challenge in some way or it's going to be this big disadvantage where you don't have any buying power for a vote or you don't have the money you need to accomplish the goal in that challenge I have something I wanted to ask when I watch it so if JC actually did end up sending you guys money to vote for him would you guys have like let's so if he sent you like 50 grand you wouldn't have voted for would you have Pat I thought about it a lot and We talked on the sixth round and I told him I would vote for him, but I was obviously so mad like a lot of the rounds.

31:31No, no, no. Let's talk real talk. Okay. Real talk. Don't tell them what they want to hear. Tell them the truth. You guys all met before and said, we are in agreement. It is a witch hunt. Nobody here is going to vote for JC or Michael. Really? And they were all in agreement. We're not going to take bribes from them. We are not going to vote from them. That is what Courtney told me. And I believe it because this is the most honest person in the whole entire game. And so that's why you didn't even try to send money to any of them. No. Yeah. So they set the precedence. I do want to keep it moving because there's another person that a lot of you guys turned on.

32:15A big episode that people talked about all across social media was the trolley problem episode. Lambos versus best friends. loyalty, betrayal. Our boy Dino? Would you guys change how you treated Dino? And how he was eliminated after he said no to one million dollars and saved a lot of you guys on this stage? Because social media has a different take on that episode. I'll say I don't understand why people were getting mad at Dino that he picked jazz. He just had to do what he thought was strategic. So still to this day, I don't understand. You want to take it? Yeah, I do. I don't know who you are.

33:01I know you're the sweetheart, and I understand your position, but I really want to speak on this because I feel like out of the top ten, I'm really the only one that can. And what I want to say is that Jazz is the individual that was under the radar, completely, you know, just a solid player. She is the black Emma in our position, right, coming from a black girl, right? So Dino, and Dino, I'd like your attention right now because this is gonna be the only moment that you're really gonna get this. For you, Dino, and to answer your question, I can't change what I did. I ragged on him, and I ragged on him hard, because Dino is a 60-year-old white man from Hollywood.

33:40He instinctively chose jazz because he thought that black women were friends. But let me just say this. At no point in the game was there a major camaraderie with the black women playing in beast games. We played based on who we were. You know, I'm very different from Tawana. Tawana's very different from Jazz. Jazz is very different from Mo. Mo is very different from Mia. Me and Mia come from the same state, city, you know, different places. I'm from the county more so she's the city. But it's like, we come from the same place but we're totally different. And so the thing that I want America to understand is when I said that no one is going to respect you, I wasn't talking about the world.

34:17I was talking about the players because when I have these individual one-on-one conversations with everyone, they've all said, yeah, it was obvious, because we all know what the relationships were like in the game. The relationships in the game were a part of the strategy, and I understand why he used it. I'm not faulting him in this moment, in retrospect, for his decision because it's not something that I feel like he was intentionally racist trying to accomplish that goal. No, by no means. However, I want the honesty of knowing that you chose that. It's no different than if it was nine black people and one white, or eight black people and two white people sitting up here.

34:56And then it's like, oh, the black people are gonna just choose the white. Like it would have been the same thing. So I just want the honesty in that. I want the world to understand that it wasn't a direct blow to him and his character as an individual, but it was definitely to bring awareness and the fact that we do have things that we've inherited from what we've culturally come from. You know what I mean? And that was a diversity that I felt like the show touched on in many other ways, but I wanted to make sure that I spoke on that because I love Jazz, and I felt like she deserved that respect that was not mentioned.

35:28There is so much to unpack there, and we have a little twist. Obviously, this couch here isn't empty for a reason. Is Dino coming up? So we thought we'd invite up Dino to the stage. Come on up, Dino. All right. Well, this is a lot to unpack there. Have a seat. So, Dino, what's your thoughts on that? Well, well, well. So, yeah, when it came down to the train situation there, basically, Queen and I, she gave me a pound. She said she's stepping down, completely supported that. She steps down, and then, lo and behold, Jimmy with his twists, he says, oh by the way whoever steps down is automatically immune and going to the top 10 and I'm like oh my gosh so I look back I had four possibly five people that I thought without a doubt I'm going to have the support especially helping them out when I turn down the million dollars yep and so I go this is a no-brainer I stepped down lo and behold then you know Tawana steps down of course as well you know as you called everybody out they supported Tawana and I just said hey no good deed goes unpunished and we moved on so yeah and then once all that took place and then it came down to uh you know to want to ask me to step on the tracks i was on the tracks and when i was uh asked to pick someone to join me i looked back and everyone in my mind everybody was scrambling hiding behind each other jc stood straight and he stood in his spot and uh and then jazz was standing next to JC, but everybody else was scrambling behind.

37:09And it says, come on, like, you've got to pick somebody. You've got to pick somebody. And in my eyes, I looked at JC, and I know he has his two boys, relating to those to my two grandsons. And so, okay, I'm going to leave JC. And I looked over, and I felt a bit rushed, and I selected Jazz. And, yeah, maybe it was selfish, but I have a lot of support on Reddit and so forth. It was a decision I had to make. Selfish is the word. And so, anyway, the decision's been made, folks. Nobody's calling you selfish. Hey, and I didn't grow up in Hollywood. I grew up in Linwood, California. I grew up with black and Mexicans, and that's my neighborhood.

37:43So, right?

37:47Black, Mexicans? No, black and Mexicans. And also, a lot of people don't know this, but Dino, you fought in the fires in L.A. and were on the front lines helping put that out. So I want to say thank you as well. Thank you. Thank you, everybody. Thank you, man. Keep it up for Dino. Thank you. Alright, another big moment from that trolley episode was Akira and Mia. Oh gosh. Both of whom are here today and I wanted to invite them on stage. So give it up for Akira and Mia. Okay.

38:25How's your island? 12. Okay. By the way, did you keep the island or did you give the cat? When you give away islands, which... We gave her the option. I mean, you can answer it. They gave me the option to keep it or to exchange it for the monetary value. And she chose to keep it, right? No. No, I'm kidding. What do you think I did? Well, I mean, I really did want to own some property there, but it just, in my best interest, with everything being uninhabited, I chose the cash value.

38:59Plus, if she chose to keep the island, she would have had to pay taxes on it, which would have been crazy. So, I mean, it's the logical thing to do, to take the money. Do you remember what you said to Akira on the Trolley Problem episode? It seemed like it's all black females. What did that tell you? I didn't think I could win this$5 million, but I'm here to help somebody else win it. The only way to do that... Oh! Played a great game. Here it comes. Be proud of this game. Be proud of this game that you played. You deserve better. I can't hear you. I don't want to hear you. We're good. You should be scared to compete against a woman.

39:36I don't think there's anything you can see about it. Point blank, period. And you about to be next on the plane with me. A scaredy cat. Do you see some nice lights up here? I'm just curious, as you guys reflect outside of the heat of the moment, are there things you would have done or said differently? Well, I know that a lot of times when you're playing the game, it's like, honestly, you forget the, well, I forgot the cameras were there. So I was just, it was just an honest response. And like people see the snarkiness of me, but I was quiet a lot of times to the game. So I observed a lot of people.

40:10The cameras show me have a lot of expressions and talk a lot. But most people that actually know me, they didn't know me until that ending part of the top 60 or top 20. That was when they actually found out who I was. So I got a chance to sit on a bus with people from New York to Ontario, Canada. and through that time I got a chance to see how people interacted with certain people and chose not to interact with others. So the energies were there to get to know people, it's just the people that they got to know were probably the people that looked like them and they went to school with and was familiar.

40:46So all I would have to say from that episode, it was what it was. I do respect the way Akira approached this conversation. I will say however that a lot of times I feel as though to me eliminating me was one thing but to eliminate two other people that didn't even have a chance to even get to to be known or have a conversation or even get to the top to me was just like it could have been done a little bit better it could have been mixed up but it wasn't my decision to make and I was disobedient in what I was doing meaning that I in my spirit should have went up and competed against Akira, but I was just exhausted mentally from all the things that I went through before that.

41:32Obviously, we didn't know each other very well, and I was very closed off for most of the game. Even in the final 21, I only knew half the people. So, like, going into it, it was very easy to get rid of people I didn't know. I think it would have been much tougher to make some of those decisions if I did have deeper connections. And unfortunately, once we got into the top 60, I did go on vacation, and we never had time to connect. You were fighting for your life out there. Coming back into the city, we went into two different challenges. The first time we really talked was right after we went back in, top 21.

42:16And then, you know, we just never had the chance. So I never got to see your story and seeing it play out live. It was really beautiful, and I did feel bad that I did end your dream, but also I felt really happy that you did come away with the island and that life-changing money. So I am sorry, but I wouldn't change anything that I did that day. That's like one of the first apologies of the night. Crazy, right? Closure. I mean, what's funny is they won more money than a lot of people over here did. Okay, probably one of the biggest moments on the show that just sent shockwaves was episode three, the cubes.

42:59And especially the Habibi brothers who had this moment. Two brothers married me. I was going to be the one going home. They told me this earlier. I said, fine, if I'm going home, if you can't decide one of the two, then you can come with me. So, let's see how they do. I think one of you two should go. Well, I don't think one of us should. I think one of us three should go. I'm not going unless you guys go. Because here's the thing. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. Right now, your decision is going to result in all three of us leaving. That means you're guaranteed to leave. I'm not going to break.

43:29And exactly. You stood up for yourself. And I know you're stubborn. I can tell you're stubborn too. You stood up for yourself. If I go down, I'm going down together. You're negotiating your demise. If you, if one or two. I'm going to say it one more time. I'm going to say it one more time. The point that you are making is you are negotiating your own demise.

43:51I don't want you guys to think that I'm like, not at all. I'm like, whatever. Just be careful. They might cut you out to be a villain. I know I'm going to become a villain. And I know it. I'm not playing. You're not playing? Draw the cards. What the heck? Draw the card. He's in here. Draw the card. No. He's backing out. He's backing out. He's backing out. Do you want to play? Do you want to go home? I mean, no one wants to go home. Nobody still dropped the card. I was never part of this conversation. I'll give you guys 10 more seconds, and I'm not going to peer pressure. All right, guess nobody wants to play the game.

44:26Even though she clearly didn't want to play, 20 minutes of nonstop manipulation might have just changed her mind. We're just going to say screw it and do it again. He's not going to participate, but whoever makes it will keep that in the back of their mind, moving forward. So you want to do the card game again? It's just going to be us, too. Whoever gets the other. And you're not doing it? All right, the doctor shuffles. That I had a good chance, and I'm just going to ruin her. I just want to get this over there. Three, two, one.

44:59I told you I'd do it. I told you I'd do it.

45:07You guys. They're probably going to think you're evil, but it won't. You didn't have to play? So we played, me and my brother, we were secretly talking to each other the entire time. And basically she doesn't know about it. Whoa. Whoa. All right, well. Wow. There's a lot there. I'm going to invite up the Habibi brothers to ask them a few questions. Yes. Everyone, samber down. We're getting a little too rowdy up here. Here's the microphone. Would you guys change anything? Absolutely not. Whoa. You know we're putting this on the internet. 100%. Keep going. So it's played off a little bit not how it truly happened in there.

45:58So first and foremost, Maddie, the player that was in the cubes with us, 225, we were friends from before. She was kind of like in our friend group. So we went in after the sack race. As a lot of people did, we were not the only situation, but we went in with our friends and before the games even began she told us i'm not gonna play a game one of you two has to self-sacrifice for the other before you even explained the rules before the rules before the rules are explained she she put two and two together and you know told us that one of you guys get out just because we're brothers and we weren't the only situation that that happened in in the cubes and I'm sure as anybody else out there who has a sibling or a family member if you were put in a situation similar to ours and put in a cube where somebody puts you up between a rock and a hard place you're going to fight tooth and nail to be able to get out and it's at that point it's the person that you trust the most with you you're going to push as hard as you can to get to that position so once she said that I'm prior to I kind of thought about it in my head and I said well if it comes down to it and I need a self-sacrifice I'll push my brother to go forward and self-sacrifice but then she said that and I said well I'm gonna go forward and and you know work as hard as I can to be able to get both of us to go through and if we go home we go home I fought what I needed to do and at that point it was oh sorry you can't hear me I thought you were going to hold his hand.

47:28Yeah. At that point, it was, we're going to do what we need to do, and we're going to work just to play a game at that point, because that's what we're fighting for, just to play a game. You know what's interesting is the theme of family, I'm sensing, from all of you guys, and who is family, whether it's blood or chosen. Actually, if you're wondering why we have an empty seat here, in the audience is just the top 60, but we made an exception. Maddy, come on out.

47:58You can respond first hand.

48:05Did you have a mic? It's so good to see you. Welcome to the reunion. Is this your guys' first time meeting in person since filming? Yeah. Meeting in person, yes. Speaking, no. Okay. What do you have to say about what they said about how you came into the challenge before cameras started rolling? So one thing that I don't think anyone really knows is I actually have a degree in math and economics. But when we realized what the challenge was going to be, I was like, this is a very obvious game theory problem, which is a very common economics situation. So immediately when we got in the cube, I said, hey, guys, I have absolutely nothing to gain by sacrificing myself.

48:44But you two do. You know, your brothers, it would, to the naked eye, it's obvious. Like, okay, one of them should self-sacrifice for the other, push their brother through. So that's what I did. And I stood my ground for about two hours. And then I remembered that I know them and they're very stubborn people. And economics class is not always real life because in real life, you know, people are not always textbook rational and egos exist. And there's a lot of emotions at play. So that obviously didn't work out. If she didn't handcuff herself, the timer's ticking, 30 seconds left. would one of you have bit the bullet or would you both have just gone home out of stubbornness absolutely not really yeah absolutely not so one thing we did um talk about because we had like a little bathroom break before the rules were explained and she said this before the bathroom break and so the game's already playing in our head and we're like oh my god like what are we gonna do and you know i look to my brother and you know i tell him i'm like we can't go home like we can't like like go home all right sorry we we can't cuff ourselves neither of us if she doesn't want to like she didn't want to play fair then we're all going to go home and and we're going to stand on principle on that you can't sacrifice is what you're saying we can't sacrifice ourselves we're going to play a game over the wrong card would you have handcuffed yourself oh yeah at that point it was we played a game and it's yeah it's not at that point it's my time to go which i do want to bring something up and i think this is ironically hilarious so prior to us drawing before you even came into our cube we we were trying to establish the rules of the game and i was you mentioned that the ace was going to be the lowest card and if anybody plays any card game or poker at all ace is the highest and at that point i said that's not worth me arguing i'm just gonna i just wanted to play a game so i didn't say anything i accepted it and then at the end i drew a king and she drew an ace yeah um how aware were you of how social media and internet would react as you guys were going through this and making decisions.

50:46Like in the moment? Yes. It wasn't even a thought. Like while we're playing the game, it wasn't a thought because that's an afterthought. We're just focused on trying to get as far as we can in the game. So it wasn't. But then afterwards when social media came out and people were hating, we kind of embraced it. We knew it was going to be like something for sure, but not to this magnitude of like, oh, my God. While she was crying didn't really help. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Eating Chipotle or whatever while she's going through her emotions. Laughing at someone crying. Not the best out there. Yeah. At the end of the day, we're here to create content.

51:21Yeah, of course. You did a great job with that. I realized it was kind of interesting, though, seeing how, like, crazy I feel like R-Cube looked and then everyone else were, like, having tea parties and having horses and sushi. I'm like, well, I feel like we used the phone wrong. Cool. Well, I want to thank you guys for coming out, speaking your truth. Maddie, thanks so much for joining us as a surprise guest. Give it up one more time. The Bibi brothers, Matty. Thank you, man. We actually have one final surprise for you all. As you guys know, our friends at T-Mobile are amazing. Yes. Yes, there we go.

51:56Switch the lights. Bring it on up. Come on in, guards. Bring out the guards. Bro. Yes. We're not done. Nice.

52:09Our friends at T-Mobile are huge fans of all of you. The top 10 are all getting a brand new phone, free T-Mobile service, and of course, all those amazing Magenta status travel perks and benefits. I've been with T-Mobile for a while now, and it's clear why they always hook me up. They're literally the best. That they're huge fans of all of you. They wanted me to say they were inspired by the connection you guys shared, the amazing friendships you built on the show, and they want you to stay connected. Thank you, T-Mobile, for helping us make Beast Games possible. Everyone give a round of applause.

52:43All right, and now I'm going to talk to Jimmy for a bit about his honest thoughts of Beast Games, and then we're going to talk to Jeff about how he's going to spend his$10 million. Give it up one more time for the top ten finals. Okay, this is going to be fun. I want to start off with the finale and play a clip from my behind the scenes right after we ended filming. How do you top this? Oh, don't you worry. There are plenty of ways to top this. Crazier than this. Oh, yeah. No doubt. Way better. There's so many things we learned. So many, so many things. I mean, this is great, but yeah. Oh, my God.

53:22I went off. This is great. as we see 10 mil at all your world records. Seems like something I would say. I couldn't believe you said that after that episode and giving away$10 million. What was the biggest thing you learned looking back? Biggest thing I learned looking back, it is a little hard to get to know. Everyone gets to know the top 10 and 20, but you don't really know too many people after the first two episodes. To be honest, in the future, I'm probably going to be way more cutthroat. Instead of eliminating 500, we should eliminate like 800 at the start so you get the numbers down. Just sucks because then most people are going to show up and instantly get out.

54:01But I think that would be better for character building. Well, there's a lot of obvious stuff now that I've watched the show maybe 45 times that I've pieced together. I think like one of the silliest things is like when we had people take bribes on episode one, they also got out, you know, when you eliminated everyone to your left and right. And I think it would have been way better if the person who pressed it didn't get out. So then we have like more people, you know, because we build these people up and then they instantly get out and they're not in episode two. Whereas like imagine the guy who took the hundred thousand dollar bribe was still in episode two, you know, at the end.

54:34That would have been really cool. So like there's like we did that kind of subtly throughout the show is like we'd spend an episode building someone up and they'd get out. But it would have been better if they stayed in. And so it's a lot of little things like that. that's like hindsight 2020. I also, it is, I mean, it worked great for the finale, but it's so sad that I don't get to put 10 million in the title. So in hindsight, you know, maybe just make that part of it because I'm paying 10 million, but 90 % of people, you know, just think it's 5 million, which is a little brutal, but the last two months are like, people keep coming up to me like, holy shit, you gave away$5 million.

55:08I'm like, well, yeah. Hopefully you knew. Okay. I got a hard-hitting question for you. Oh god. Alright. The critics review of the show is very different than the fan review. On Rotten Tomatoes you got an 89 % from the fans. Yep. You can just stop there. 89%. What else do we need to talk about? 13 % from the critics on Rotten Tomatoes. From seven critics. seven who only watched the first two episodes I agree yes why the difference uh I don't know I mean we'd have to call them but I I mean they literally left it within like the reviews within like an hour of the show dropping so I'm like 99 % sure they didn't even watch it so um but at the end of the day as long as the people who like the 70 million people that watched the show enjoyed it like what else matters so uh I mean coming from YouTube I'm new to this whole critic thing.

56:04I don't know why you need to segment, oh, these 10 people versus these 10 million people. Like, shouldn't all that matters is that the audience enjoyed it, you know what I mean? So to me, it doesn't really matter. Was there any feedback or criticism of the show that you were like, actually, that's a great note? Oh, yeah, tons. You know, maybe a little more skill-based stuff. Just, you know. All right, all right. Don't cheer too loud, okay? Don't get so happy. But yeah, in the future I definitely want a little less luck in it. I mean you don't know till you go through it but it would feel better if it felt like certain people earn things more instead of like lucking through.

56:42I actually really liked when we gave people the option to do chance, you know, skill or whatever so giving people more of the option so if it is luck based it's like they decided I think is a much better way of going about it. There was one night on set when we played Settlers of Canton with the top ten and... Did I win? Actually I think you did. Okay. And it was fascinating to see you as a player, like how strategic you were, how measured you were. And I just wanted to put you in the situation of if you were a contestant on Beast Games. Yeah. What would you do in these situations? Oh gosh. I'm going to rapid fire.

57:16Ready? Yeah. Episode two, if you were on the tower, would you take the one million dollars? Of course, it's a million dollars. Your odds are better. I don't know. Why'd you guys say no? You could You could have axed 25 % of the players. What are we doing? I'm kidding. I'm looking at Dino. Although I'm not. I mean, a million bucks plus your odds are better. You would take the million dollar bribe. I mean, yeah, it's a million dollars. Even if you promised all the people, you're like, I'm going to go there, say no. Well, you just, you know, ignore that part. In episode three, there were the cubes.

57:51Oh, God. How would you go about getting out of the cube if the two people in there with you were Carl and Chandler? Wait, Carl and Chandler, are you guys in here?

58:03I didn't hear what you guys were talking about. He's asking me how I'd manipulate you in the cube. If you were in the cube. If I had to like, it was me, you, and Chandler? I would just never get out. I would be the villain for sure. You'd be the Habibis? I'm kidding.

58:25I'd probably try to get him to play me in a board game. Maybe Monopoly. Because Monopoly is like chance. You're calling a board game. Yeah. Well, I'd probably pull each aside and be like, let's try to figure out how to team up on the other one and make our odds better. Pull each of them aside individually. Yeah. Episode 5, would you compete for the island or skip that challenge? Oh, definitely compete. You're right? because you have one in 10 chance of 1.8 million. I'm actually, only nine people did it, which is surprising because it's, what was it? One in 60 at five or one in 10 at 1.8. I mean, it's just like the EV score is just so much better.

59:00I was shocked 10 people didn't even go after it. Episode eight, the challenge where there was a million dollars in the middle and each contestant had to go out one by one. All million. So if you went first, if you're in Tijuana's visit, you would go out and you would take how much? Yeah, I would take the million and then I'd just give it to them on the towers or something. I mean, they didn't know that at the time, but yeah, you would figure it out. Then you have all the control. That'd be awesome. I obviously would have played this completely different than you guys, so I probably would have been eliminated.

59:31How much do you think about that when you go through creating the games with Tyler and Klitzner? Like, how much do you put yourself in the shoes of what somebody would do? Oh, obviously every game, but how it played out and how we thought things would play out were two completely different things, which I think one of the beauty of the show is there obviously was a lot more integrity a lot more camaraderie and honestly way nicer than we thought in a lot of instances which is threw off a lot of the equations for some of these games which one in particular comes to mind um i mean obviously at the end of episode two i mean i i thought for sure someone was going to press it at like 200k and then it just went up to a million but i mean it was awesome because that cliffhanger was perfect and you know people still like come up to me and they're just like there's no shot that's real and I'm like, I don't know what to tell you.

1:00:17In the finale, would you have flipped the coin and risked elimination? No. No. No. Especially because Tawana sounded like she was going to do it, too. I just, that was crazy. I have to ask about the$10 million coin flip. I mean, for months leading up to that, I mean, I know you haven't even asked the question yet, but we were like, yeah, we'll just throw this in there. No one's actually going to, like, do it. Yeah. You know, we're like, there's the EV ratio. You know, like imagine filming for a month and then just gambling it all on a coin flip that everyone else benefits from. It makes no sense.

1:00:50Yeah, I was going to say, like, talking to you, Carl, like Chandler, like everybody didn't think it was going to happen. Oh, no, you probably have a thousand shots of me going, no shot. This is going to happen. I was like, yeah, we'll probably just cut it out, the show, because like no one's going to do it. And it doesn't make sense. I even I told Tyler, he's the, you know, for when we post this, like the guy who writes a lot of our stuff. I was like, why are we even doing this? This is just a waste of time. Like, who would actually in their right mind flip this coin? How do you think about when you add more money on the show?

1:01:21Because I was there with you on set. The Tesla for the train versus Lambo episode for the trolley problem episode, you guys just stuck another$100 ,000 in the trunk. Like, I think that was a game time decision. How do you make those decisions of, like, okay, let's add more money. Let's add another$5 million. Like, do you ever think about, oh, the return of adding more money, or is it just for fun? Well, we thought about the return. We wouldn't because I don't think I got five million dollars out of it. But it was just no, I mean, these things are pre-planned beforehand because obviously because of compliance, I can't like change too much on set.

1:01:56So it's usually just whatever we agreed to going into it, to be honest. Do you ever worry about raising the bar too high, Jimmy, to the point where like audiences become too desensitized to like what it means to win 10 million dollars on a show? Like that is so above any kind of stress. Yeah, but the beauty of that is if they're desensitized to the money I'm giving away, then I don't know how they'll watch any other game shows. I think that's more of a problem for everyone else, not us. I thought it was fascinating how in the past week you put out the first three episodes of Beast Games for free on YouTube.

1:02:31Yeah. Why? Just to get more people hooked so then they would come over to Amazon and watch the rest. It's been great so far. like people are watching it and it's causing a spike on the show because just some people you know uh just wanted to see it before they committed to buying the prime what's been the impact of beast games on filming your youtube content like have you tried to do more challenges like you did in the games have you tried to up the production quality has there been a change or impact on your youtube content oh yeah definitely i think if you watch the pyramid video we just did you'll see there's way more cinematic shots it's way uh just everything about i we actually it's in 4k which i think that was like we're starting to do all our youtube videos in 4k now just i had a lot of theories like uh you know people prefer youtube videos that feel a little more amateur they don't they you know especially because over half of the viewership on youtube now in america is on television so we started upping the quality of our cameras because i was like oh this show looks great now it makes my youtube channel look like you know garbage so we started bringing in bigger uh the bigger rigs and using more high quality cameras and so far the reception on YouTube's been great.

1:03:32So it's way more cinematic, way higher quality content. And even I just think even the storytelling and things like that in our content has gotten much better. So I learned a lot. It also helped because we had a lot of traditional people, which is just a lens that I didn't normally learn from. I was around a lot of different people. So like learning from them over the 45 days and then pulling it all over to YouTube was really helpful. Yeah. Yeah. Especially now, I think YouTube just announced that TV is the most watched. Yeah. It's over half of US viewership is now on television for YouTube, which is crazy when you think about it because it used to just be a phone thing.

1:04:06But as cable's dying, everyone's switching over to YouTube on TV. I want to ask also about the change in thinking about story versus spectacle. I thought it was fascinating. Episode one, biggest spectacle. Thousand contestants, 500 people eliminated roughly, trap doors, pillars, like crazy production. Episode eight, nobody eliminated. is basically just people walking in and out of houses. I want to know what they think. Which do you guys like better? Raise your hand if you like episode one better. Raise your hand if you like episode eight better. Wow. That's interesting. No one got out in episode eight.

1:04:42Wow. Yeah, you know the top ten, and it really built them up and came across better, as opposed to just dropping people like ants constantly. Yeah. What did that teach you about changes you would make to your content moving forward? I mean, obviously, we know the objective. Get it where you feel, how you feel in episode eight. ideally sooner in like episode two or three i think at the crux we just didn't get rid of enough people at the start so we just got to get the numbers down sooner and then um it'll be much easier because you know if if we have 30 or 40 people it's not hard it's just hard when you have 400 because but and if you're only going to focus on 30 why have 400 so just get the numbers down yeah how did you try to find stories when it was that many people like you had people like asking questions like questioning like i mean we had 150 people editing this so it was yeah they They were shifting through an unfathomable amount of footage.

1:05:30I mean, the other thing, too, is definitely giving our editors more editing time. I mean, we were right up to the deadlines, and then we'd get Amazon to, like, give us a couple extra days, and then we'd shave a couple days off Doves, and then we'd film it earlier, so we'd give the editors, like, ideally an extra month to, like, focus on it, because even though we had so many people, it's just, like, there's just way too much footage. Like, episode one with the 1 ,100 cameras, it was just brutal. But deeper in the show when there's only 10 people, it's like, you know, you can watch everything that was said during that whole day.

1:06:02And so it's much easier to, like, grab the optimal stuff and put it in. Yeah. It's so fascinating, Jimmy, to be able to interview you through the years as you go through different life stages and see how that impacts your videos. You recently got engaged. I did. Yeah. I did the thing. Yeah. Tia is here. I don't know where she's at. Tia, are you here? But shout out to Tia. She was wonderful to have on set. I'm wondering, does being engaged, soon to be married, one day having kids, does that change how you view... I don't know what said the K word. It'll happen sooner than you think, man. I don't know where you got that from.

1:06:38Having a family, thinking about all that in the future, does that change how you think about the challenges and the contestants who come on your videos? That's a deep question. Probably not, no. Because there's a lot of family dynamics. Like you look at like Jeff and Tawana, like you're not just invested in them at that point. They're families. Yeah. I mean, those like obviously when we brought the families out, like I don't you don't need to have like a wife or kids that understand like, oh, this hits emotionally and feels good. So I hate to give you a lame answer, but probably not. Love you, Tia, though, if you're here.

1:07:13It's reported that you've placed a multibillion dollar bid on TikTok. Well, I didn't. Well, I'm part of the bid. I'm part of the bid. Well, first of all, yeah. I don't have billions of dollars to go. Oh, yeah. First of all, I want to ask, is it true, if you could talk about the bid on TikTok, and if you win the bid to buy TikTok, I'm curious, what is your experience being the top YouTuber and now having a streaming show influenced in terms of owning a platform? Like, what changes would you make if you were the owner of TikTok? Yeah, I mean, I'm really not allowed to say much, especially because this is going to be on the internet.

1:07:49So, that's... I don't know. You're going to get me in trouble here. They're going to kick me out of the deal. That's fair. Ask me in a month. I'll have a way better answer. Any other thoughts, reflections, like looking back? It's such a monumental show. I mean, people love the show. You guys are great. I mean, seeing the internet's reaction to it has been amazing. Honestly, I feel a little empty because I'm going to get up next Thursday, and I'm not going to be able to check Reddit or Twitter. I'm going to just have to go back to normal life. It's kind of sad. But no, people loved it, and Amazon's happy, and you guys killed it.

1:08:28Thank you. All right, it's time for the man of the hour. The guy who won$10 million. Let's bring out Jeff. All right, I just have to ask, Jimmy, you were telling me, did you wire the$10 million to Jeff today? Yeah, a lot of you know we don't pay people until the episode airs, so this episode obviously aired at 3 a.m. today. So he just got paid, literally today. Did you ever, were there ever nights where you doubted that it would be real? Oh, yeah. You doubted that the time that would come. Well, I mean, it was just like, this happened five months ago. And like, my wife's like, I'm like, hey, like, can you believe it?

1:09:03She goes, it's not in there yet. Yeah. Like, who knows what's going to happen? That's a good wife. Yeah. Yeah. And maybe we show the screenshot of it. Because it's crazy to see that. In post, they'll throw it up on the reunion. So here it is. I don't know what camera I'm supposed to be looking at. But if you're curious, obviously your information will be blurred. But there's the big 10 mil. So it is paid. As of now, all 20-plus million should have been paid to everyone. That's owed. It's crazy to see all this play out. Jeff, how did you keep it a secret for five months? We spoke a few times. It's almost like, yeah.

1:09:35Oh, yeah, tell me about that. That must have been the hardest secret to keep, that you won 10 million. Of course it's hard. But it's also like what I got to experience, and I think Klits said it when we get down to the final 10, like, think about everything you've gone through and how fun it was. Like, believe it or not, the people who watch it will feel the same thing. And that kind of, like, hit me, like, I can't take that away from my mom or my sister, even though they pried me. They didn't know until today? Yeah, my mom didn't know until this morning. Whoa. Wow. Wow. That's crazy. What was her reaction?

1:10:09I mean, they lost their mind. I mean, and especially as I got further in the game, I was kind of leading them astray. Like they thought I was for sure going to eliminate on episode nine by kind of the way I was acting with them. And then I said, hey, the final six, I'm like, are you kidding me? I got to talk about Lucas two episodes in a row. Like in my book, that's a winner. Like however the finale works or ends, I consider myself a winner. Man, I can't believe they didn't know till today. That's insane. Dedication. That's why it didn't leak, though. I appreciate it. But what's here, what's crazy is because Jack, my nine-year-old, was there at the finale, he hasn't told a soul.

1:10:48Wow. Let's go. Shout out to Jack. Wow, that is not easy.

1:10:56Jack, you're going to be the coolest person in your school now when you go to school next. You know, I spoke to a lot of people who came on the show and they sacrificed a lot. people left their jobs but a lot of them were a bit younger you know they could kind of roll the dice and do this last hurrah you had a family at home you were in sales you like had this whole life in San Francisco how did you make the decision to say I'm gonna potentially not look at my phone for 30 days to risk trying to make this crazy dream happen? I was at our annual conference for Association for Creatine Deficiencies two years ago, and the woman came on stage to give a keynote, and she goes, hey, everybody, I have the silver bullet to how to cure a rare disease.

1:11:47Everybody's on the edge of their seat, and she goes, you need to find a celebrity who has a child with it. Holy shit. And so for me, I go, obviously, I'm not a celebrity, but I need to figure out how to get a platform and how to get a voice. And so I've kind of toiled with it all the time. Early last year, my nine-year-old, eight-year-old at the time was like, Dad, I want you to watch this video with me. I want you to watch this video. It was Mr. Beast. And then I see it on a link for application on a billboard, like a casting billboard. And I go, I put it on my whiteboard. I set an alarm on my phone.

1:12:22And the day came, I think it was like May 31st. And so I recorded a video. I'm like, screw it. I'm doing it. Wow. But I didn't tell my wife that I did it until I got in. So I didn't want her to start planning and freaking out that I'll be gone for 30 days. But yeah, it was it was Terry Joe Bichelle who inspired me to kind of go. You got to get out there and get a platform. And I'm forever grateful for for being there to hear that. Wow. And how so far have you seen like people talking about it more and the creatine deficiency disorder and everything like what? Oh, it's like I got a I got a DM on Instagram from a from a mom in Argentina who said she had never heard anybody talk about creatine transport deficiency except her doctor.

1:13:09Wow. She thought her kid was the only one in all of Argentina. And she kind of felt like she was finally part of a group and finally heard. And wow. Yeah, it's like that's the stuff that like that's why I'm doing what I'm doing. day. Wow. To put it in perspective, we were talking on set. How many people in the world have creatine transporter deficiency? Diagnosed, it's like under 400. In the entire world? Yeah, but we think it's underdiagnosed by a hundredfold. I think most parents kind of give up because the diagnosis journey can take years to try to really figure out and pinpoint it. And for people who aren't aware of the effects of this condition, can you just explain?

1:13:51I know you've said it on the show but i just want people that full contact for sure um our bodies make creatine naturally and they travel through the blood to get to the organs and the muscles um and there's a transporter lucas's transporter or kids with ctd their transporter is broken so their bodies make the energy creatine fine but their organs or muscles can't receive it and the symptoms are kind of cognitive delays developmental delays epileptic low tonal so it's just failure to thrive so it's just it's and there's no treatment for it yep and how if people want to help you how would you recommend they reach out like message on Instagram yeah you can message me on Instagram you can go to creatineinfo.org which is the the non-profit that is the the primary funder for research and there's more on my website too legacy831.com okay wow after we watched the finale together for the first time last night.

1:14:47I started going through Twitter and social media and just trying to see some of the reactions of what people thought. Well before you read them off, have you been reading social media, keeping up with it? Yeah. Only, only messages, so I don't know like what... Have you read the Beast Games subreddit or anything? Oh wow. Have you? Of course, yeah. I want to see what they think of everything. What have you seen that stuck out? The stuff I said before, more skill base, blah blah Interesting. So you don't read Twitter or search your name on the net? I do, but I haven't done it since. I mean, the last 24 hours have been a little crazy.

1:15:20Yeah, you should search 831 on Twitter. All right. It's overwhelmingly positive. Yeah, it's very positive. Here's a comment I thought just summed up everything I saw when I was researching. Quote, and I'll put this on screen. Tears as I watch the Beast Games finale, episode 10. The winner was well deserved, and I'm glad the contestants didn't leave with nothing. thing. Great show, W wrote, W all around. Yeah.

1:15:51What, what, what are your first plans with the $10 million? First, I'm going to figure out how much, you know, taxes I would owe. Yes. Um, you know. Please pay your taxes. I, I wouldn't. Please. I wouldn't. We sent the full 10 million, it's on him, please pay the taxes. Oh yeah, you don't get withdrawals before. No. Which I'm glad, because I have the pretty screenshot of the 10 million. But it's scary, because he owes a lot in taxes. Sometimes to help people, we withhold it and pay the taxes for him, but we sent the full money. Pay the taxes, don't go to jail. Of course. Just like, I got it. April 15th, we're all good.

1:16:27And so, for me, it's finding projects that we can fund to help find kind of a cure. And again, a cure is going to take time. You know, it takes finding a technology or a therapy that works, and then you got to put it through clinical trials. So there's some awesome stuff going on at Stanford and some places in Canada too. And we're going to find out which projects are best to fund and try to get some stuff rolling. Love it. We talked quite a few times after the finale taping and tonight about just preparing yourself for how the world would react to finding out that you won the$10 million. Could you talk about some of the things you did to get ready and take this opportunity and ride the momentum?

1:17:15Obviously, the X's and O's, talking to attorneys, couples counseling, really making sure that we're prepared as a team, but also just kind of recommitting to who do I want to be? you know, they say kind of money doesn't change you, but it definitely brings out who you are. And so for me, it's, you know, I want my ultimate drive of why I believe I won was because I wanted to receive the prize so that I can share it. For me, sharing it means helping kids like Lucas. So hold me to it, you know, and I want to be that person who's going to make a difference for for kids like Lucas. Are you gonna quit your job?

1:18:00I don't yeah you won't see me to W2 again. Was there anything that you bought or you spent knowing that the 10 million was coming or you just played it conservatively until you saw the wire? Pretty conservative. We went on a vacation with my kids never gone to a beach vacation even though we live in California so we did a beach vacation over Christmas and Lucas had a blast. We did swim lessons up until that so he was much better prepared and it was nice knowing that we had it but we we couldn't share it it's a weird thing when it's happened but it hasn't happened and I'm sure you have that all the time with with your challenges yeah like knowing it's coming but it not being there and so you have to like yeah I think Cruz said something to my wife after the finale is like she looked at him she He goes, what just happened?

1:18:51And Cruz is like, nothing happened yet. In five months, it will happen. One thing that we learned about you afterwards is that you're a professional poker player. Ooh, like how professional we talking. Yeah, how professional, yeah. And did that play into the games? As professional as that is not true. Oh, wow. So that was a joke that landed so bad that they thought it was true. Oh, wow. I thought you were. oh yeah and and so this is a shout out to kato kato i don't know when he got out in the games but he was a professional poker player so when we were having this conversation with gage and tawana i said oh yeah he's when i used to be a professional poker player something to that extent and like they they believed it i'm like oh my gosh this is great so i i i was a horrible gambler like horrible gambler i haven't placed a bet in 10 years so like thank god for me yeah so for me to be a professional poker player is like hysterical, especially to all my friends because I was never good.

1:19:53I'm really thinking back to this moment where you had the families come out and Jeff seeing you with your family for the first time on set, what did that spark in you? Like what did that reignite? Because it seemed to have an effect, a bunch of people mentioned it during the top 10 yeah my um family means the world to me um and i i've never gone 30 days not talk to my wife and i love spending time with my kids and like i always thought it was cliche like oh like the best day of my life was when my kids were born until your kids are born and you realize it is that was right up there with it when they came around the corner and i saw my son and i hear him say my name and then I see my wife and like she's looking at me like she's so proud of me it was like it was literally the best night of my life like the top five best nights of my life and in typical Jimmy fashion they walk around the corner this way we go into a challenge and again I think it's one of the reasons why you see me kind of get a little fired up that night was I was just the emotions of that night were beautifully scripted bravo

1:21:06and shout out to them for not saying come home we miss you no they were my wife was super supportive like literally we had like she's like just letting you know like if you have a chance to call me for a bribe i'm not going to answer wow really yeah and i told her like when i signed up for it i'm like hey this is gonna be an awesome platform for lucas like i'm gonna be able to tell the world about creatine transport efficiency if i go far enough she goes she goes screw that she goes if you're signing up, you better win this thing. And that changed my whole mindset.

1:21:42Yeah. I'll give you guys the final word. I'm so grateful that this happened. I texted Jimmy, I'm like, so much happened on the show, we got to do a reunion. Yeah, no, I'm glad we did. I feel like the viewers will like having like, A, a little bit more knowledge on certain things that happened, closure on a lot of other things, and then just getting to hear him talk more and everything like this will be perfect and because after episode 10 whenever this goes up in a month like it will autoplay for all the new people watching it so it'll just be like a great way to like close any uh endings on watching the show so i'm very glad we did it yeah jeff any final words from you anything that you want to share with the world um your family your cause my plan is to kind of put um the rubber to the road you know i'm gonna to ruck from the Nevada border all the way to the coast of California in the next few weeks to try to raise more awareness for CTD and for Lucas.

1:22:37We're going to start on the Nevada border of California, and we're going to go 365 miles all the way to Santa Barbara, Santa Barbara area. So one mile for each day that Lucas has to suffer with CTD. So 14 basically marathons. More than that. We'll have to do a marathon a day for two and a half weeks. Wow. Wow. Okay. Give it up one more time for Jeff. Thanks.

1:23:07Thanks to T-Mobile, who knows a thing or two about keeping people connected. We have $60 ,000 up for grabs and a quick game to end out the night. What we're going to do, we're going to have you guys come up here, I believe, and then we're going to put a cup over there, and then you'll each get a shot kind of like in episode two and everyone who lands it in the cup will split the 60 grand. Thanks to T-Mobile if you want to look over there. Check that out. Oh, that looks sick. Okay. Oh.

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1:23:58Come on team! Come on team!

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1:24:31Oh my God! I cannot believe I just did that! I cannot believe! You're okay!