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3:29Robb Dunewood: Today, Andy Beach reads between the lines of that vulture report about Hollywood's secret AI shame and an electric vehicle battery that can charge in 18 seconds. I wish I could charge that fast. I'm Tom Merritt. And I'm Rob Dunwood. Let's start with what you need to know with the big story. This story is getting a second wind, likely because we're out of the shadow of WWDC. You might have seen it around June 2nd, but UK motorsports company RML Group received what's called conformity of production certification on June 2nd to begin mass production of its energy-dense Varivolt battery, spelled V-A-R-E-V-O-L-T.

4:09Like, you know, EV, so you can highlight the EV. The battery can charge and discharge very fast. RML's board member, Michael Malek, told AutoCar can fully charge or discharge in about 18 seconds, something you might want to do if you need a car that can go zero to 100 as fast as possible. By comparison, the Porsche Taycan can charge or discharge in 12 to 15 minutes. So this is a big step up. The Varivolt also has a modular design so that car makers can focus on range or power. RML has been manufacturing the batteries in small volumes as prototypes, but now it can sign big contracts with OEMs and car makers.

4:49uh there's a los angeles company called zinger with a c uh that makes the 21c hybrid supercar that has been using this battery in its round of about 80 supercars it can discharge 4.5 kilowatt hours of energy in 40 seconds in the implementation they made rml says it's also developing a kit that would let companies convert the packs for use in older hypercars like the la ferrari and the mclaren p1 now rob this is for race cars i get that but it's the kind of thing you'd like to think might trickle down to consumer cars at some point and also it's just cool i hope it trickles

5:26Robb Dunewood: down uh relatively soon because i was looking at this and i'm like oh okay here we go here we go and i was like oh wait a minute la ferrari mclaren those are not like regular people cars so these are these look like for cars are on closed tracks and turn left an awful lot so yeah i you So I am excited about this. I hope that the technology triples down, let's say, with the speed of AI getting better and better as compared to carburation going to fuel injection. Because that took about 100 years. I hope it doesn't take that long. I hope this technology comes pretty quickly. Yeah, the problem is we don't need it to discharge in our Honda Civics in 18 seconds.

6:05At least 99 % of the time we don't. But we would like to take advantage of that 18-second charge-up time. So can you get it so that you can get one without the other would be the trick. But that said, man, like pretty crazy that you could just pull into a pit stop, you know, 18 seconds, juice up that battery. Zinger is using these in hybrids, like I said. So they have gas engine with this to give it a boost. That's pretty crazy.

6:32Robb Dunewood: Yeah. Like I said, I just started thinking all kind of crazy stuff. If you have a fully electric car, could you maybe have a battery of this type to charge up really quick? Let's say two minutes at the pump, and then it charges the regular battery so you get longer range. I don't know. There's all kind of thoughts that popped into my head. But when you're talking about 18 seconds for a full charge, that gets me into that's regular car fuel up. In fact, it's better. It takes you two, three minutes to fill your own car up. So this is where no one will have the argument about, well, it just takes too long to charge.

7:06Robb Dunewood: That's why I can't do an EV. And you could definitely beat everyone off the stoplight if you could do 18-second discharge. I'm just wondering, do you have to get out the car when you're charging this? Do you have to take your family out? Because that's a lot of power going into a small amount of space really quickly. like i i imagine right now the usage of this is in tandem with another battery right so so you this provides you know it's like in fast and furious when he hits the button you know and it's that it's it's that for evs the battery equivalent of a nitrous oxide system so yeah pretty cool dts is made possible by you the listener thanks to kevin morgan paul theason ali sanjabi and our new patron, Payson.

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10:41There's more we need to know today. Let's get right to the briefs.

10:45Robb Dunewood: Samsung made some announcement about the next firmware update for its Galaxy Watches. One UI will have a beta test starting later this month for a select number of Galaxy Watch users in South Korea and the U.S. New features include bedtime guidance, vascular load, a running coach, and an antioxidant index. No word on what will come out of beta, but Samsung is expected to announce the Galaxy Watch 8 lineup in July. So this I am excited about. I'm a Galaxy phone user. I'm a Galaxy Watch user. Not necessarily excited for the 8. I'm excited for the price reduction in the 7 and the 6 and the 5, which is what I will probably upgrade to because I don't need to be on the bleeding edge of a watch.

11:25Robb Dunewood: I just needed to tell me what time it is and how many steps I got. Yeah. And you don't need to be spending that extra$100,$200 for the latest one either, dude. I figured it out. I get my watches generally off of Amazon, but they're like the factory refurbished. They're almost always brand new. I've never gotten one that looked like it had ever been used, but they come in like brown packaging. And they work just as good as they did when they came out brand new. They're just a year or two back. Yeah. No, that's smart. Actually, the whole refurbished thing is interesting. They are often actually refurbished where something has broken.

12:00Sometimes it's just like the glass or something, though, and the rest of it's fine. And sometimes they are watches that were returned, not in the packaging anymore, but they were never even used. Right. Maybe somebody didn't even put them on, but you can no longer sell them as new. So you get them for cheaper. It's a good tip.

12:21Robb Dunewood: Well, anyway, the eight what's coming in it. It sounds great. I'm probably not getting it when it comes out, but I am happy that those price reductions will come to the ones that came before. Yeah. I'm sorry, Huen Toy Dao isn't on the show today because she's a big watch fan too. And I'd love to hear you guys compare notes one of these days about these watches. Here's a little advertising news roundup. WhatsApp will begin showing ads on the status screen after you've scrolled through a few status updates. This is going to work similar to how Instagram stories works, right? You'll see a couple, two or three of your regular ones, then you'll get an ad, then you scroll past that.

12:55It will target these ads based on your location, you know, country and city, what language you're using the app in, what channels you follow, as well as what ads you interact with as indicators of what ads to serve. This is all first party stuff, like what the app already knows. It'll be like, oh, pull that kind of ad. It will not use phone numbers, messages, calls, groups, or other personally identifiable information. Meanwhile, Amazon and Roku are teaming up to let buyers in Amazon ads place their ads on Roku's platform. That's going to end up giving advertisers access to about 80 % of connected TV households when you count Amazon Prime Video, which is on Google TV, Apple TV, etc.

13:41Fire TVs, which is the operating system from Amazon, and of course the Roku platform, which is huge. And finally, TikTok has joined the generated video trend, offering advertisers the chance to create five-second video clips for their advertisements from text or image prompts.

13:57Robb Dunewood: This all sounds pretty okay, I guess. I think that we are to the point now with ads that most people are not terribly bothered by them. And I do believe that Meta goes, I don't want to say it goes out of its way, but they try to make sure that the ads that it is showing you are ads that pertain to you. So you don't necessarily have a visceral reaction to them. That would not be good for anybody. Yeah, I always say like you only are annoyed by the ads that don't work. If ads are working, you are intrigued, right? If a properly working ad is something you are interested in seeing. That said, there's a lot of ads that don't work out there.

14:35So I'm not trying to pretend like there's not. I do think some of the OG WhatsApp fans are rolling over in the grave, though. Like the idea that you would have an ad in a content feed on WhatsApp is something that I don't think the founders certainly envision. Of course, they're long gone at this point. And a lot of people are going to be turned off by. We'll see a few people move over to Signal and Telegram from this, I'm going to guess.

14:58Robb Dunewood: And now as far as TikTok is concerned with the generation trend of just generated ads from a prompt, I think that the ad business is changing in real time in front of our eyes. And I think a small percentage of people are absolutely up in arms about it. I think most folks aren't going to care, which is exactly why they're doing it. Yeah. And this is a tool that every advertiser is going to try. I don't know if it's going to be something useful for most or not. I'm curious to see that myself. A small number of Mac minis with the M2 chip made between June 16, 2024 and November 23, 2024, have power issues and some won't even turn on.

15:38Robb Dunewood: Apple has created a service program to offer free repairs of those models for up to three years after the day you bought them. No warning is necessary and repairs can be done by Apple or an authorized service provider. Yeah, this is the right thing to do. if you bought a broke thing they fix it for you for free that's probably yeah probably good business for up to three years from the time from the time you bought it not from the time it first went on sale this is absolutely yeah it's good a lot of folks have been concerned about who might end up getting 23andme because of the dna information the company owns well it turns out the answer is co-founder ann wojewski uh she founded a non-profit public benefit company which outbid Regeneron Pharmaceuticals to acquire 23andMe's assets for$305 million in the bankruptcy auction for 23andMe.

16:29Now, Wojcicki had tried to take 23andMe private before bankruptcy, but the board rejected those proposals and filed for bankruptcy instead. And you may say, wait, I thought Regeneron already won this auction. They did. They were declared the auction winner back in May, but T-TAM, Ann Wojcicki's non-profit, filed a complaint with the Missouri Bankruptcy Court saying the bidding was shut down prematurely, that they had made larger bids that were discounted because the financing wasn't clear, but they weren't given enough time to show the financing. So the court said, all right, we'll run this again.

17:05They did it last Friday. The financing was clear and T-TAM has now won the bid. A court hearing to sign off is the last step and that is set for next week.

17:17Robb Dunewood: I don't know, Tom, have you used 23andMe? Do they have your data in this system? Yeah, I have. So did you pull your data out when you heard about this or are you leaving it there to see what's going on? How do you feel about this? I am probably less concerned than I should be, to be honest. But I assumed, I usually, I have followed these things for so long that I know that everyone thinks the worst case scenario is going to happen and you have to wait and see what happens. When Regeneron got it, I'm like, okay. I imagine there will be so much pressure on them that they won't be able to use it for the worst things.

17:58But also, I don't know, my insurance is covered now. I feel like the rules are in place. I'm not too worried about it. And I do like having access to some of the health information that's in there and just some of the genetic information, you know, ancestry and all that. And I'm very relieved that my gamble paid off and that this is going back to a nonprofit company under control of the founders. A lot of people are not going to be okay with that because even under 23andMe, a lot of people felt like they didn't handle this data well enough.

18:34Robb Dunewood: Vibrant Visuals, the first big visual overhaul of Minecraft in some time is set to release on Tuesday, June 17th. The update includes directional lighting, volumetric fog, and gives every biome its own atmosphere. These are all visual changes. There are no changes to gameplay. Yeah, if you're a Minecraft player, this all means something. If you're not a Minecraft player, then know that your Minecraft players in your life are going to be very excited about the new look, I'm guessing. I would imagine that I've got a couple of nephews around the ages of 11 to 13 that are cheering or who are jeering i'm not sure which yet yeah i i guess we'll find out by the end of this week uh what what people think of them generally it looks like people are positive about the changes and have been looking forward to them an mvno which stands for mobile virtual network operator is a virtual mobile network it uses one or more other networks to operate its service.

19:27For example, Liberty Mobile Wireless is a Florida-based MVNO. It was started in March 2018. And like a lot of MVNOs, it actually uses T-Mobile's network to provide its service. It makes a deal with T-Mobile to pay for bulk access to the service, and then it sells that access at a discount. It's being launched into the spotlight today thanks to a partnership with the Trump Organization to offer Trump-branded mobile service on what they're calling the 47 plan, he's the 47th president, for$47.45 a month, including a$499 phone called the T1 that comes in, of course, gold. You can pre-order now, shipping in August or September.

20:10And if you're confused, the Trump organization is a holding company for the president's businesses while he's in office, and it is controlled by his sons, Donald and Eric.

20:19Robb Dunewood: So when I initially heard this story. It's like, okay, it's an MVNO. That's not terribly different. The thing that is terribly different is that they said that they're going to make a$500 phone here in the United States. So I looked it up to see, are there any smartphone manufacturers here in the United States? There is one and their phone costs like$1 ,800 to$2 ,400. So I just, I'm curious to see, can the Trump organization pull off or whoever they partner with, can they pull off a$500 phone in the United States. That's the part that struck me as that's kind of odd. The specs were there, but not all the specs I would expect, including operating system and stuff, although I'm guessing it's Android.

21:00So I'll be curious to find out more details on that. I also would think you'd need like a three-year contract if you're going to sell this thing at $499, but maybe it's a lower cost phone for other reasons. Yeah, a lot of questions yet to be answered there.

21:18Robb Dunewood: If you need a nap, Anchor announced new Soundcore Sleep A30 earbuds that use active noise cancellation to block up to 30 decibels of noise, and the charging case can detect snoring and send noise masking audio to the buds to cancel it out. It also does sleep tracking, but because of the addition of the active noise cancellation, battery life is down to nine hours when listening to white noise or sound stored on the buds. You can also use them for music and podcasts, which which drops battery life to six and a half hours. You can get them shipped early at a discount through Anchor's Kickstarter, but full price will be$229.99 with shipping starting in August.

21:54That's a lot for things that are meant to be used while you're sleeping, but I guess if it really works, no price is too much for good time to sleep.

22:03Robb Dunewood: I would imagine that these are not so much for the snorer, they are for the one who sleeps next to the snorer. Yeah, no, they are for sure. And for that person,$230, that might be a bargain to sleep comfortably. Absolutely. The previous A20s didn't have the active noise cancellation. They had longer battery life, but they didn't have the active noise cancellation. So these are going to work a little better.

22:27This next one's pretty amusing. A dev channel build of Windows 11 released on Friday accidentally included the Windows Vista startup sound instead of the Windows 11 startup sound. uh microsoft noticed kind of tried to play it off at first like it was intentional and then admitted like no it was a bug uh there is a new line in the release notes for this preview that says this week's flight comes with a delightful blast from the past and will play the windows vista boot sound instead of the windows 11 boot sound we're working on a fix here's the thing even though

23:01Robb Dunewood: they didn't do this on purpose they should have just left it that is that is so cool for folks who are old enough to have known what that sounded like, I would have preferred to actually keep it that way. I feel like somebody did it on purpose, right? Some engineer inside of Microsoft knew this was there and left it there or put it there. A lot of people are putting forth the conspiracy theory that since liquid glass, Apple's new visual metaphor, looks a lot like Vista, maybe Microsoft was tweaking them by doing that. But it sounds more like it was just a mistake and Microsoft tried to be like, oh, that's fun, right?

23:36We're going to fix that.

23:37Robb Dunewood: Yeah, it was probably not put there on accident. It was left there on accident. They probably meant to take it up before the accident. Yeah, that tracks, definitely. The state of New York added a requirement to its layoff reporting rules in March that people have just started to notice the worker adjustment and retraining notification or WARN system is used to make sure employees affected by plant closures and large layoffs get ample warning and information 90 days ahead of time. The change in March adds a checkbox to the other requirements to indicate if technological innovation or automation was the reason for the job losses.

24:12Robb Dunewood: If checked, a follow-up acts to specify which technologies. Nobody has used the checkbox yet. I don't know that anyone will. because to say that automation or robots or AI or something like that was the reason for the job loss is going to surface because these things go public and it's going to cause a lot of bad press. And every layoff or plant closure or what qualifies as a plant closure has lots of reasons. So you can plausibly say like it was economic and not have to get all the bad press. and the idea that somebody is going to sue you over your Warn Act submission checkbox not being checked, it's pretty remote.

24:55So I think most companies will risk it.

24:59Robb Dunewood: Yeah, I think you're absolutely right. They wouldn't intentionally check it. They might actually talk about it in a meeting and say, this is why we're letting folks go, but they don't want to actually put that in print or in a digital format that is basically, it's logged. Now, this is the reason why you've done this. So I would expect that they probably won't. The only company that'll do that is one that is making its name on AI, right? Like they want that kind of bad press because they're like, we're the future or something like that. And I think those will be rare. Kind of like Shopify did a month or so ago.

25:30A little bit, a little bit, yeah. And maybe that didn't go as well as Shopify expected it to. Those are the essentials for today. Let's dive a little deeper.

25:40Robb Dunewood: An article from Vulture reveals just how deeply AI is already embedded in Hollywood and how few people are talking about it. Andy Beach is here to help us read between the lines. Andy, thanks for joining us. Don't tell anyone you're here. Hi, Tom. I won't. Don't worry. I have heard so many stories over the past few weeks from various friends in various parts of the world about what generally is described as some kind of dirty little secret regarding the use of generative models, large language models, mid-journey type models in Hollywood while Hollywood is protesting that they're not using these models or they don't want people to use these models.

26:26What was your take on this Vulture expose? Yeah, so this was an article Lila Shapiro put out, and I found it fascinating. I actually also wrote about it on my sub stack. But what she called out in a number of different conversations with people in the industry, many of whom stayed anonymous, was that generative AI was already here in Hollywood productions, whether it was in pitch decks or cutting trailers together or being used to create storyboards. There were people using it, but exactly as you said, people were also being ordered to very specifically keep it off the books and not talk about the fact that generative AI content was there.

27:10This reminds me of my early days at ZDTV Tech TV, where I would figure out how to run Lotus Notes in Linux and have half of IT mad at me and the other half fascinated how I got it to work in wine. Is that kind of the vibe here, which is people are like, well, we're not really supposed to do this. I can't acknowledge that you're doing it, but wow, that really helps. So I don't really want to stop you. I think this one is a little less tech focused and a little more compliance and legal in nature. So there are scenarios where artists are being handed a bunch of AI images and asked to clean them up.

27:55Take those extra fingers off the hand so that we can use this as a storyboard. Or a writer is handed a treatment that is very clearly come out of a model and asked to rewrite it but keep the concepts similar. So the studios aren't wanting to acknowledge it in part because they have legal issues that are pending and they want to stay clear of that. They're also trying to avoid pushback from the unions that they work with. But it does raise questions in this sort of silence of it, whether they're displacing creatives as part of it. You know, instead of hiring somebody to go create the content, they're basically being brought in to edit and, quote unquote, fix a generative AI content.

28:41So there's a lack of authorship and a lack of transparency in what's going on. And I think that's really probably the bigger issue that they got talked about. I called out in my piece in particular that it was less about technology. It was more about trust, transparency, and creative ethics. Yeah, I think it's a really hard one to come down for me on a side with because Disney and Universal are suing Mid Journey. Obviously, they don't want to be seen using Mid Journey, you know, a rogue employee doing that. You also have union members out there picketing. You know, we just got the voice actor strike resolved and there was hard fighting for actors and producers and the rest.

29:29And if somebody's using something off the books in a way that wasn't in the union agreement, the union doesn't want its members to be caught doing that because that's hypocrisy too. Does it mean that these tools are too good to resist? What do you think would compel people to say, like, gosh, but I want to use it anyway? Yeah, it's a good question. I mean, I think these tools and this technology is shifting so rapidly. I often just constantly reiterate for people that the innovations that we're used to sort of taking a year or two are happening every six months. So we have such a compressed timeline that there's a constant sort of desire to recheck in and see what the quality difference is like.

30:21You can look at the video models in particular and all the press that sort of came around the recent Veo 3 model that came out and the quality that you could see there. So there is a desire, I think, by both creatives and business people alike to see sort of is this ready? And the way you do that is often by putting it into some form of operation. And if you don't have a sort of a dedicated sandbox, a dedicated R &D place for that to happen, it's unfortunately going to leak into your production work. And if you're fighting things legally or with unions, you're going to want to try and inherently keep that quiet.

31:04But I think that's probably the wrong way to take it. I think there's a way to do it that's more transparent. And that might mean that it's slower, but that's probably for the better in the long run, both for the people and the technology companies at the end of the day. I think that's the problem, though, is it's slower in a world where people need to have faster things to have the advantage. And if somebody is able to get their documentary, their film, their TV show up faster, that can mean dollars. That can mean not just dollars for the corporation. That can mean dollars for the people involved because they get greenlit for a second season and they get kept on.

31:47And so there's a lot of motivation to use these tools if they're good. If they weren't good, then you end up falling behind because the tool actually made your product worse. Maybe you don't get renewed because you had AI slop. But when they're good and when they're helpful, it's going to give you an advantage. And I guess another analogy is, you know, things that are in that gray area of substance abuse in sports, like is blood doping, you know, really taking drugs or is it just, you know, am I skating along the edge there? And I think in the heat of the battle for some people, they're like, well, I'll just do it and hope I don't get caught.

32:29Yeah, absolutely. And again, we've had this conversation a couple of times with many of the pieces we've talked about. I think this is a bigger issue in a studio environment or even in an agency environment. It's not going to be as big an issue for an independent creator who's working in a smaller set of intellectual property at the end of the day that they probably have all of the rights to implicitly in some way. And they can make the shots. They don't have a union agreement. Nobody's suing them. They're not suing anybody. So I think we'll have to, for the moment, look to those independents for the rapid innovation and the changes in the quality and the pieces.

33:09But we'll have to look to the studio models and the agency models and the others for how this is getting deployed at scale and how the regulations are coming together with the various countries that are keeping a lot of scrutiny on this. I wonder if the pressure to use these tools and the success when they have success using them, I wonder if that causes people to be a little more collaborative on agreeing how to use them. And my premise there is that both sides have been unrealistic. I think the labor unions on one side were being a little unrealistic about just how threatening these are to jobs.

33:55And I think the studios might be a little unrealistic about how much they can help, you know, and how much they can increase the bottom line. And maybe if they if this pushes them to come to a more reasonable agreement of like, well, they really are helpful with this and I don't feel threatened. It just makes my job easier. And like, yeah, OK, so we can give on that because we really weren't going to make billions of dollars by cutting out a whole department. And, you know, after all that that would be the best outcome. I'm not sure that that's the outcome that's going to happen, but it does feel like that's the reality that's asserting itself here is like, well, we all really want to use them and we don't feel as threatened.

34:34but we can't say that. I think you're 100 % right. I've always said that when a studio looks at AI technology purely as an optimization option, that's effectively them weaponizing it against the creatives because that's just a way of reducing their bottom line. The other side of the coin for AI is that technology innovation side of the things that it'll let you do that you couldn't do before. And it's a balance of those two pieces. One of my biggest arguments with the unions in the strikes and the conversations they had was that they continually pointed back at AI technology as the problem. And I would posit that really it was the AI technology business practices that were being used that was really the problem and not the technology inherently itself.

35:22There's absolutely still issues we have around intellectual property and data privacy rights and other elements that go into it. And we do have to solve that. And it is things like regulations that are going to help us solve that. But I think they were painting the technology with a broader breaststroke when they really needed to get into the nuance of the business practice being the problem and the renumerations that come with that as the bigger problem, just in the same way that the studios need to acknowledge that it's not just an optimization tool, it's also an innovation tool. Well, I couldn't say it better myself.

35:56I'm glad we've solved everything for Hollywood. Piece of cake. If other problems do arise in AI, I'm sure you'll be able to cover them for folks. Where should they go? So I'm writing about all of this on my sub stack. It's called Engines of Change, which is Engines of Change.ai. And there's a recent piece that's literally about this Vulture article. It's called Everyone's Using AI. They're just not telling you about it. Fantastic. Thanks, Andy. Thanks, Tom. What do you want to hear us talk about on the show? one way to let us know is our subreddit you can submit stories and vote on them there we got lots of people submitting stories so you can just vote on the ones they submitted or put some of your own in there go to reddit.com slash r slash daily tech news show being a serious business owner takes hard work patience and a drive to keep moving forward so it's important to find a serious business card that goes the extra mile.

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37:47Robb Dunewood: We end every episode of DTNAS with some shared wisdom. Today, Mark is helping us understand. Yeah, Mark wrote on our Patreon a comment, speaking of knowing what's on your network, the author of the Metasploit network, HD Moore, went legit and started a company called Run Zero. They offer a completely free version for security nerds that works for up to 100 devices. It not only does an inventory, it keeps track of when a device appeared as well as the last time it was seen. It also has some nice features that go a long way to identify what kind of device it is. So if you're thinking, is somebody accessing my Wi-Fi network that I don't know about out there?

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38:31Robb Dunewood: This is kind of awesome right here. Now, I don't know that it's going to do well for you, like if you are in a hotel or on an airplane. But yeah, it's pretty cool. 100 devices is not bad because usually in your home, you're not going to see that many people connected to one device. Yeah, I have a lot of devices connected to my network. As I was noticing when I was looking at my Eero trying to run a backup internet service yesterday because we had an outage. I still don't think it's up to 100 though, so that's pretty good. All right. Thank you, Mark, for that. Well, folks, we'd love to know what you're thinking about.

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