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21 May 2026 · 30m · 14 chapters

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A Network Multitool For Hackers - DTNS 5274

In short

DTNS episode covering Flipper One’s network-focused hacking multitool; SpaceX IPO and earnings context; data center heat impacts; Spotify generative tools; LiDAR “see around corners”; plus quick headlines (NVIDIA, Google Gemini ads, AMD Halo, GitHub supply-chain attack, etc.) and listener feedback on Gemini UI changes.

Guests

No named guests. Hosts are Tom Merritt and Jen Cutter; listener contributor “Frozen Cussler” (email with pronouns).

Guest backgrounds

Frozen Cussler is a Gemini/Gems power user at work, frustrated by Gemini UI moving “gems” and removing send-feedback.

Key claims

Flipper One adds 2x 1GbE + 5Gb USB-E, Wi‑Fi 6, GPIO, M.2 (5G modem/SDR/AI/SSD), HDMI; uses RK3576 (8-core) + Mali G52 + 8GB RAM; needs community help for mainline kernel/Flipper OS/Flip CTL; expected price under $350. SpaceX IPO: NASDAQ SPCX; Q1 loss $4.28B; Starlink subscribers 4.4M→8.9M; Musk retains voting control; data centers via Anthropic $1.25B/month. Data centers: Phoenix study found average +1.3–1.6°F, peak 4°F; Open Compute guidance to reuse waste heat.

Written by AI. May contain mistakes.

Chapters

3:50

Flipper One: The Ultimate Hacking Tool

Explore the features and potential of the Flipper One multi-tool.

“Let's start with what you need to know with that big story.”
6:42

Practical Uses for Flipper One

Learn about the many applications and versatility of the Flipper One.

“It needs to add mainline kernel support for the MPU functions, needs to bring the Flipper OS and the Flip CTL interface from concept to working software.”
8:42

Community Development for Flipper

Understand how the community can contribute to the Flipper project.

“They didn't have to think too hard about it.”
8:52

Listener Appreciation

Hosts thank the listeners and supporters of the show.

“and like we said, if you are into developing software for this sort of thing, they could use your help.”
12:23

SpaceX IPO and Financials

Get insights on SpaceX's IPO plans and financial performance.

“All right, there's more we need to know.”
14:03

SpaceX's Business Model and Data Centers

Learn about SpaceX's financial dynamics and the importance of data centers.

“is still losing money, I think that was expected.”
16:02

Heat Impact of Data Centers

Discover the environmental impact of data centers and potential solutions.

“Of course, they waited until I did my data center episode on Saturday to publish this.”
20:08

Spotify's New Features for Users

Explore Spotify's innovative tools for creating music and audiobooks.

“Spotify reached an agreement with Universal Music Group that will let users make covers and remixes of songs with UMG artists.”
22:18

LiDAR Technology and Its Applications

Learn about the advancements in LiDAR technology and its practical uses.

“I think I prefer to read it myself, but that is time intensive.”
28:23

Tech Headlines Overview

Discover the latest tech news from NVIDIA to Google and AMD announcements.

“These are those little tidbits that make you look smart.”
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29:57

Security Concerns in Tech

Examine the implications of supply chain attacks in open source projects.

“Wired has a great article up, by the way, about how these supply chain attacks are being used in open source projects.”
31:07

Trends in Education Tech

Explore Kansas City's shift from Windows PCs to Apple devices in schools.

“I'm surprised Righetti Computing isn't spelled Q-O-M-P-U-T-I-N-G.”
32:40

Innovations in Live Streaming

Learn about Apple's use of iPhone 17 Pro for streaming a live sports event.

“as cameras this is the first time an iphone will be used to shoot an entire major live sporting event Just phones, only phones, like the commercials.”
33:55

User Experience and UI Changes

Understand the impact of UI changes on user workflows and satisfaction.

“What that update did was very impactful to me and my coworkers.”
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3:25Jenn Cutter: This is the Daily Tech News for Thursday, May 21st, 2026. We tell you what you need to know, give you important context, and do our darndest to help understand all this crazy stuff. Our gosh darndest, because today, yes, we have the SpaceX IPO and NVIDIA earnings. But we will start with a plan for multi-tool from Flipper that lets you hack around on networks. Because that's more fun. I'm Tom Merritt. I'm Jen Cutter. Let's start with what you need to know with that big story. Yeah, so a lot of you might know Flipper. They've made a lot of waves with their flippers with the Flipper Zero. They have announced the development plan for the Flipper One, which is another multi-tool for hacking.

4:09Jenn Cutter: The good kind of hacking. It could also be used for the bad kind of attacking, but it's the kind of tool security pros need to defend systems. Uh, if you're not familiar, the existing flipper zero can connect over multiple offline wireless profiles. So your Bluetooth, RFID, NFC, and such, it can do cool things like emulate a, uh, an identity badge, things like that. The new flipper one goes heavy network. So it has a 2X gigabit ethernet connection, a USB ethernet connection that can go five gigabits per second. And when I say 2X, I mean, I think there are two gigabit Ethernet connections, a USB Ethernet that can go five gigabits per second, Wi-Fi 60, also has a GPIO port and an M.2 port, which you can connect a 5G modem to or a software -defined radio module or an AI accelerator or an SSD or another Wi-Fi card, whatever you want to do.

5:04Jenn Cutter: There's also a full-size HDMI port in this thing. Let's get into the chips because I know some of you want to know. the rest of you just, you know, know these are cool chips. Eight core RK3576 chip, Mali G52 GPU. These are ARM-based chips, a neural processing unit, and eight gigs of RAM. So yes, you can use this as a small Linux PC if you want. It also will include a two core Raspberry Pi RP2350 microcontroller. It'll use that to power the display and the buttons and the touchpad LEDs and the power subsystem. That way you don't have to boot into the full Linux PC to use some of the functions, saving you a little time and money.

5:49Jenn Cutter: The Flipper OS Linux distro on this is being developed by Flipper. It will create profiles so you can experiment with different packages and settings without having to swap out or flash your SD cards. They're also developing the Flip Control or Flip CTL as it is spelled, interface. That way you can control the device from a D-pad and a touchscreen. That'll be useful for that Raspberry Pi side of things. If you're not already thinking of multiple ways you could use this, I know some of you are, here's some examples. It could be a TV media box. It could be a signal analyzer, a pocket PC, as I mentioned, a diagnostics tool, a cyberdeck, a VPN gateway, network auditing.

6:31Jenn Cutter: It could even be a router, as well as a packet sniffer and all that kind of stuff. However, the reason Flipper's putting this out now is not because they're ready to announce you can buy it. It still needs your help. It needs to add mainline kernel support for the MPU functions, needs to bring the Flipper OS and the Flip CTL interface from concept to working software. So they would like to invite excited supporters to join the community and help develop the software. You can go to flipper.org to check out all that. They do expect that the final device won't cost more than$350. That is incredible.

7:07Jenn Cutter: It is a cool piece of hackery. I love it. I know. I would end up using 18C % of all the things it could do, and I still want one. And if you've never seen, for everyone listening and watching, if you've never seen Flipper devices before, they look so cool. They look like the future we were promised. Their design is awesome. And I remember first hearing about this company when people were using it in airports and fulfilling my dream of turning off all of those TVs. Oh, that's right. They were using them to send remote control infrared. Yeah, a lot of stuff they're using it for, people are surprised it can do.

7:44Jenn Cutter: But when you think about it, it's like, well, if you have a device that can cycle through infrared channels and then tell you, like, looks like that's the right one, you know, you've got more than just a single remote. Same with the RFID patch stuff or reading your pet's chip. I mean that you just need a reader to do that but this is the kind of thing that has all of that stuff built in so you can try it for lots of different things and it's not ridiculously expensive no like I'm looking at that going like well like that's not impulse purchase property but you know it's gonna go on the list to to keep it there I feel bad that like I am not enough you know of a programmer to like contribute to this but I will be definitely staying on top of the developments and I'm hoping that they do actually pull off all the things because I know Of course, all my InfoSec people have this and 800 other tools.

8:33But I know a couple of non-hackers who have these to run their home networks and use it for their smart homes and all those controls. Because it does it all. They didn't have to think too hard about it. And also, like me, they liked the way it looked.

8:46Jenn Cutter: Yeah. Well, it's very convenient for that. So, yeah, check out the Flipper Zero right now. It's available. and like we said, if you are into developing software for this sort of thing, they could use your help. So go check that out as well. And we have help too. All at TNS were made possible by you, the listener. So thank you to Sebastian Werner, Tim Deputy, Brandon Brooks and Johnny Hernandez. Yay! We appreciate all of you.

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12:29Jenn Cutter: All right, there's more we need to know. Let's get to the briefs. Okay, so SpaceX filed its paperwork for an initial public offering, or IPO, of stock on the NASDAQ under ticker symbol SPCX. This means we've got some info on the company that was not officially available publicly before. SpaceX lost$4.28 billion in Q1 compared to a loss of$528 million last year. Revenue grew from$4 billion last year to$4.69 billion this year. The losses are driven by spending on data center capacity. However, that is expected to generate revenue as Anthropic is on the hook to pay SpaceX$1.25 billion a month for access to the Colossus data centers through May 2029.

13:21SpaceX expects to add more data center customers and is exploring operating data centers in orbit, which has gotten a lot of airplay as people try to figure that one out. Most of its revenue comes from Starlink. Subscribers rose from 4.4 million in 2024 to 8.9 million in 2025. Elon Musk has an 85.1 % of the voting power, which even after an IPO will continue to give him full control. The IPO will deliver about 30 % of shares to the retail investors, and the IPO is targeted for June 12th, so pretty soon.

13:59Jenn Cutter: Yeah, I don't think too much out of here shocked me. The idea that SpaceX itself, which we think of as the rocket part of the company, is still losing money, I think that was expected. It's going to continue for a long time until we really get the tempo of launches even more than it is now. And so Starlink being part of this, I think, is kind of the money center. And it continues to raise subscribers. And the more subscribers it gets, the better it gets at coverage and capacity and the more the price can come down. So that seems to be the strongest part of this business. The other parts, like the former Twitter X and XAI, do not seem to be particularly important to the business, given the stuff that I saw today.

14:45Jenn Cutter: However, the building of the data centers will be. I think that is smart for SpaceX to say, we would also like to get in on a little of that money that Azure and AWS and those sorts of folks, or even CoreWeave, not even providing the cloud services necessarily, just providing the raw space. And Anthropic is already their first customer. They want more. Yeah. As a kid, I was thinking like, Like, why aren't they doing like more exploring in space? Why aren't they sending out more stuff? And as an adult, it's like, oh, oh, rockets are expensive, expensive. Yeah. But we're finally getting back into the world where they're becoming normal for rockets to go up.

15:20Jenn Cutter: And SpaceX still has its mission of getting a settlement on Mars, you know, which has been its guiding star for a long time as well. So this is, of course, a big day because everyone's been waiting for the second half of the year for these IPOs to take place. And now June's going to kick it off with SpaceX. And, you know, in related news, Anthropic can afford to pay SpaceX$1.25 billion a month because it is expecting revenue to double to$10.9 billion in Q2 and record its first operating profit. Meanwhile, OpenAI is next up with folks telling The New York Times it may file for its IPO soon as well.

16:01Jenn Cutter: Now, all this talk about data centers probably got some of you thinking about the special we did this weekend about data centers and the effects of data centers on the areas in which they are built. One study just came out. Of course, they waited until I did my data center episode on Saturday to publish this. But a study from scientists at Arizona State University recommend that city planners take into account the heat output of data centers when evaluating locations and local impacts. We talked a little bit about this on the special, but they've got a lot more data on this. Basically, they're saying the same way you would evaluate a smelting plant, like for a steel plant, you need to think of the heat impact of the data centers.

16:46Jenn Cutter: They measured air temperature around four facilities in the Phoenix area. Now you're like, oh, of course it was hot. They measured how much it raised the already hot Phoenix weather around it. They did four centers ranging from a 36 megawatt center to a 169 megawatt campus and found that thermal plumes near the centers raised temperatures an average of 1.3 to 1.6 degrees Fahrenheit. height. The peak was four degrees, which is what you're going to see in the headline, but that was not the average. That was just the biggest effect that they saw. On average, it was 1.3 to 1.6, which means sometimes it was less, and four was the worst that it ever got.

17:27Jenn Cutter: In some related news, though, the Open Compute Project, which develops energy-efficient hardware, is developing guidance for communities on ways to use that excess heat from data centers for things like home heating, growing vegetables, heating public pools. So they are publishing that. You can find out more about that at opencompute.org. I love the Open Compute project stuff because like the futures of futures, we're going to need some data centers, like whether it's used for AI or not, we're going to need data centers. Because it made me think of like how a lot of apartments getting built these days, recycle some water to have gardens on the roof to help with carbon footprints and stuff and sticking solar panels wherever they can, which is another thing I am a huge fan of.

18:14I feel bad. I'm thinking of, oh, pool heating. I grew up with the Erringate Pool in Etobicoke, and it's freezing. It is freezing around, and it's so cold.

18:23Jenn Cutter: You just need a nearby data center to pump some of that heat over there. Yeah, well, because I also grew up, again, in Etobicoke, right by the airport, right by Pearson, right by YYZ. I am so used to plane noises, and you do get used to it. I'm used to my backyard was a 427. You get used to the highway and stuff. But like the thing that I would hate to live by in Etobicoke is there's like a soap factory for one of like the fancy soap stores that you see in malls. And that one is awful to live by because the smell is constant. It is unavoidable. I don't even drive through that part of town. So I can see why people would not want to live near the spot that gets randomly hot as these things come in Even one degree on average is a lot and that can fluctuate.

19:10Jenn Cutter: It's not as bad as a steel smelter, right? But it is something where it's like, oh, well, we need to take that into account. And that's where I really came at with that special that we did on Saturday was, you know, like, these are the things you need to know. It doesn't mean they shouldn't build a data center. It just means you can't go willy-nilly. You can't let them off the hook and do whatever they want. but there are reasonable ways to build these that will provide energy efficiency, actually pay for themselves and all that sort of thing. So this is another element of that is like, oh, you need to take into account that it's going to generate heat.

19:45Jenn Cutter: So don't put it next to a school. Don't put it next to a residential area. But also maybe you can use that heat, right? Let's be smart about it and not just waste it by heating the neighborhood for no reason. Use it for something. And I think that's what the Open Compute Project is trying to provide is some guidance about here are ways to implement that, not let it go to waste. Spotify had several announcements at its investor meeting on Wednesday. Spotify reached an agreement with Universal Music Group that will let users make covers and remixes of songs with UMG artists. The tool will be a paid add-on for premium users.

20:24A beta in June will invite select English language authors to try a tool to generate an audiobook that can be distributed on Spotify or elsewhere. It is not exclusive. The tool lets you also create a podcast from your own data or prompts that will be built into Spotify soon. And if you qualify as a super fan of an artist, the specifics for this aren't quite set. It is based on an unspecified combination of streams, shares and other activity. Spotify might help you out and reserve two tickets to that artist concert ahead of the general public, which super fans will then have the option to purchase.

21:02Jenn Cutter: Yeah, they've been doing some special events where they say the top streamers of this artist can come to a special performance by them just for Spotify. This is kind of taking that same thing and elevating it to say, we're going to reserve two tickets. And I like that they phrased it as reserve. So this means you will be able to get the tickets. It won't be a presale where it's like, good luck, you'll be thrown into the queue. If you're lucky enough to get at the front, you might actually be able to get tickets. I think that's great. I also understand why they're not specifying exactly how this works, because as soon as they do that, people will game the system to try to become the super fan.

21:42Jenn Cutter: Here's the target. Yeah, exactly. Um, but yeah, and, and some of these other, uh, generative model additions here for authors to try and coming to an agreement with a music group that says, Hey, let's let you have fun tools that the actual rights holders are okay with and can make money off of so that, you know, you're, you're not stealing from them. Spotify is not stealing from them. I think that's good too. Tom, how do you feel about the generated audiobooks? Because I don't know about you, but I hear authors are kind of picky about how their work gets handled. Yeah, I know a lot of authors do not like it.

22:18Jenn Cutter: I love it. I think I prefer to read it myself, but that is time intensive. And I think hiring an actor is probably the best way for me to do it, because you get a really good performance, better than I could do, better than these models can do. but you don't always have the time and resources to do that and so to make it so that someone can listen to it i don't know how good this is because i haven't tried it but let's assume it's reasonably decent um i think that's a good option to have i'm excited for the remixes of songs like i don't love ai remixes and stuff but i know some uh some djs who do awesome stuff on soundcloud and you will get so much more exposure on spotify if you're able to show up on on playlist pretty easy so they're kind of planning like yeah sure i'll use the ai tool to like alter three notes but the rest of it's going to be all me well and people can do this with prompts now so they can just have fun and you know some creative people are going to do some stuff that nobody ever would have thought of otherwise you know like uh turn bts into a swing band from the 40s you know like uh i don't think they're i they might be universal music group distribution actually.

23:30Jenn Cutter: But I can't wait to see what creative people come up with in the playground that they're offering too. Yeah. The big perk is that the artist will get something from it. Exactly. Right. In the end. At least if the label is being decent to them, they should. True. Good point. Good point. All right. A new paper in Nature describes how to use LiDAR. That's light radar. They're basically using light as if it were radar to see around corners. This would be incredibly useful for a car, right? To be able to tell if a pedestrian is coming or something like that. They were able to do this using off-the-shelf equipment that costs less than$100 US.

24:09Jenn Cutter: The system bounces light off reflective services and measures how long it takes to return. That creates an image of what's there. That's just how LiDAR works. The ability to do what is out of line of sight using that method has been demonstrated in a lab with a million dollars of equipment. So the big advance here is not that they could do it, it's that they could do it affordably. The breakthrough was to take lower quality data from these cheaper sensors and analyze multiple readings at once. They were able to use a portable LiDAR system that has 100 pixels, just 100 pixels, combined with a single photon detector, and then create an algorithm that could analyze multiple readings and reconstruct 3D images of both static hidden objects, as well as track 3D motion of hidden items.

24:58Jenn Cutter: Future work on this would be able to handle unexpected motion because there's a little bit of predictiveness to the algorithm. So if pedestrians, which are humans, which are notoriously unpredictable, do something unexpected, that might not be handled well. So they want to work on handling that better. And they also want to develop cheaper hardware that is designed for understanding hidden scenes. They're using off-the-shelf hardware designed for line of sight and making it do this. They think if they actually tweak the design, they could do it even better. So I just think this is one of those advances where you can immediately see the practicality of it, obviously for cars, but also for you and I, if we're hackers or DIY people to just try to be able to do stuff we couldn't do otherwise.

25:41Yeah, I have a, oh my goodness, near 20 year old car right now. So I don't have a whole lot of bonus safety features that modern vehicles do. this would be great if it was one of those things like how you could people could add their own rear view cameras kind of thing it's like yeah I would totally add whatever has to go in the front of my car just to have this I'm sick in motorcycles because oh yeah if this can read really fast because some motorcycles you know not every driver is responsible if this helps them avoid trucks avoid pedestrians avoid people running red lines any any kind of thing like that and I'm kind of thinking like even for pedestrians like smart glasses aren't my favorite thing but if somebody's using it for accessibility and being able to see if like an e-bike is coming around the corner huge absolutely

26:28Jenn Cutter: huge all kinds of other security aspects to that too like is there someone waiting around the corner you know as i'm walking down the sidewalk uh you know could could it alert me to that um you could put this in home security to be able to to see things that you can't see with line aside from your camera. And that means you don't have to use as many cameras. You're seeing, of course, a thermal image, basically. You're not seeing full-color images with LiDAR, but still, it's incredibly useful. If you have feedback about that or anything we talk about on the show, one way to get in touch with us is social networks.

27:06Jenn Cutter: I don't know if you've tried them before, but they are available and we are called at DTNS show. You can find us on X, Instagram, threads Blue Sky and Mastodon. Or if you're of the TikTok or YouTube persuasion, you can find us at Daily Tech News Show.

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28:22Jenn Cutter: All right, let's get to the quick headlines. These are those little tidbits that make you look smart. NVIDIA reported that revenue grew 85 % on the year and data center revenue almost doubled. While NVIDIA spoke in its earnings call about other sources of revenue, investors seem to believe that NVIDIA is about near the peak of what it can make on hyperscalers. Yeah, it was like, we made records amount of money. And investors like, yep, that you did last quarter. I don't know if you can keep this up, was basically the reaction. At its Marketing Live conference on Wednesday, Google announced it will start testing Gemini-generated ads in search.

29:01Jenn Cutter: You knew this was coming. The ads will be marked as sponsored content. So you will be able to tell, oh, that's an ad. That's just part of the Gemini response. But they will show up as two types within the AI mode, a highlighted answer, which is added on to a query, or as relevant details about a product that may meet a need. AMD announced that its Mac mini-sized Halo system, which it showed at CES, will start at$3 ,999 with Ryzod AI Mac's 300 CPUs and pre-orders are coming in June. Yeah, that's way more expensive than a Mac Mini, but it has a CPU designed specifically for this kind of stuff. So that's the tradeoff.

29:43Jenn Cutter: GitHub has identified the tan stack NPM supply chain attack as the source of compromised VS code extensions that led to malicious access of those 3800 internal GitHub repos that we talked about yesterday. Wired has a great article up, by the way, about how these supply chain attacks are being used in open source projects. Just an ongoing problem that the security community is having to confront. Kansas City Public Schools announced it will replace more than 30 ,000 Windows PCs and Chromebooks with Apple devices, including 4 ,500 MacBook Neos for eighth graders and up. Younger grades will use existing iPads and MacBook Airs.

30:25Jenn Cutter: Oh, shot over the bow. I mean, one school district does not change everything, but this is the kind of thing people were wondering if it would happen. So we'll have to look and see how many other school districts do this. The American Customer Satisfaction Index now shows Samsung ahead of Apple in the U.S. as the cell phone brand with the most customer satisfaction. Basically, Apple lost 1 % somehow. Samsung maintained its 81 % satisfaction, so that puts it right in front. The U.S. is awarding a total of$2 billion in grants to nine quantum computing companies to encourage the development of quantum computers.

31:06The government will receive minority stakes in the companies, including IBM, Global Foundries, D-Wave Quantum, Righetti Computing, and Inflection, which has a Q in it because of course it does.

31:17Jenn Cutter: Because it's quantum. See, that's why you got it. Oh, there you go. I'm surprised Righetti Computing isn't spelled Q-O-M-P-U-T-I-N-G. Waymo has added Atlanta to San Antonio as cities where it has had to pause its autonomous driving service. It is working on making sure its cars do not drive through flooded roads, which can be very dangerous. And there was an example during a recent rainstorm where Waymo had its car drive right into a flooded road. No harm was done. But they've had to put the pause on that because, you know what, they didn't develop these things in very rainy areas. The Breakfast Club will become the first daily live program to stream on Netflix starting on June 1st.

32:03Jenn Cutter: that's very intriguing like getting into live daily programming and the breakfast club which people want to watch live very interesting uh thanks to motang for noting this one on our subreddit james murdoch's lupa systems has bought most of vox media and is going to merge it with new york magazine however this is the important part for you guys in the tech audience eater pop sugar espination the dodo and the verge will not be included in that sale they're going to take all of those package them up and spin them off into an independent company and on saturday may 23rd apple will stream the la galaxy versus houston dynamo fc mls match using only the iphone 17 pro as cameras this is the first time an iphone will be used to shoot an entire major live sporting event Just phones, only phones, like the commercials.

32:59Jenn Cutter: Make sure they put them in do not disturb. That's, you know, I was imagining like a shot in the audience, like, see if you can tell which iPhone is shooting the show. And it's like a bunch of people shooting the game for themselves. And then some guy with a huge Ronin style apparatus around an iPhone 17 Pro. Like, yeah, it's probably that guy. Yeah. Well, I want to see some interesting angles. Those are tiny cameras. You better get them in places that we can't see otherwise. Yeah, maybe strap them to a player. That'd be so fun. Hey, there are ref cams in hockey. They can do this with the guy running up and down.

33:33We end every episode of DTNS with some shared perspectives. Today, Frozen Cusser has some thoughts on Google's update to the Gemini apps UI.

33:43Jenn Cutter: Yes, Frozen Cusser used their real name in the email and even his pronouns. But I want to just call you Frozen Cusser. Okay, I hope that's all right. Frozen Cussler writes, greetings. What that update did was very impactful to me and my coworkers. For more than a year, we were told to mine gems for our quick workflows. Gems are these little like packaged up things that you can do in Gemini that will always do the same thing. It's basically an advanced form of prompt engineering in a way. the new UI has moved those gems from a pinnable side menu to a few clicks away and beneath a tall header to create something else not only that they removed the send feedback option for me to tell them how much I dislike it this has been really annoying and if I had the ability to switch AI companies at work I would seriously consider it just a small reminder that UI changes are workflow changes and they have a big impact frozen cusser uh i love the way he put that last line there like ui changes are workflow changes and sometimes ui designers take that into account and sometimes they don't frozen cusser you have definitely hit a raw nerve for a lot of people you're going to see a lot of people agreeing with you i got so mad unreasonably mad when like i had to put my home button back in Firefox.

35:10I guess I use keyboard shortcuts all the time, but just that disappearing just fills me with the rage I don't usually feel. And those kinds of changes that it's like, man, make us opt in, highlight it, give us an option, even on boot, give me a pop-up, whether you say yes or no, then I'd be a lot more cool with it.

35:27Jenn Cutter: The problem is there's always somebody using every element of your UI where it is. And so the question isn't how do I, If you're going to make a change at all, then you're going to affect someone. So the question is, how do you make it so that it is minimal for people without making the interface overly complicated? And my guess is this indicates gems weren't being used that much in this manner. The frozen cusser is working at a company that is an outlier in their use of gems. They may have looked at pinned gems and said, man, it's like less than 10 % of the user base. we can we can move that that's you know that that that's what it sounds like to me based on project design meetings that i've been involved in uh and that that that's a hard one if you are somebody who's using something which i often am using something in a way that no one else is uh and then you have to be like oh they changed it because no one else does it this way and then that leaves you as the person that has to change which never feels good yeah uh for a fitness app Last year, they removed the ability to see what your friends posted, what your friends did.

36:37Not like Strava, where it was super detailed about where they physically are. But just like, hey, they posted, they tried this exercise for the first time. It was really neat. I really liked it. I use it all the time. They sent everyone an email saying like, hey, no one uses this, so we're getting rid of it. So that button disappeared. But at least I knew why. And they told me in advance.

36:55Jenn Cutter: And that's a big thing with the Gemini change, right? Is Frozen Cusser didn't get that kind of explanation, right? So he's left just to think like, well, I guess they just didn't consider my use case. And that would make me want to change too. So what are you thinking about? Positive, negative, or also about UI changes? You could please, please, please share it with us at feedback at dailytechnewsshow.com. Thanks to Frozen Cusser for contributing to today's show. Thank you for being along for Daily Tech News Show. You're the folks who keep us in business. If you can, become a patron. It's easy.

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