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2:15This is the Daily Tech News for Tuesday, May 12th, 2026. We tell you what you need to know, give you the important context and help each other understand. And today, Android becomes more agentic than men. It's becoming very agentic. And we also meet the new Google Book laptop. I'm very excited. Oh, what is a Google Book? Well, we're going to tell you. I'm Jason Howell. I'm Tom Merritt. And we're going to start with what you need to know with the big story. The big story is so big, it literally just happened. Like 10 minutes ago at the time of this recording, Google launched the Android show. This may sound familiar.

2:55One week ahead of Google I.O., which is their developer conference. That's next week. Last year, they did something similar where Google decided to basically announce most, if not next to all, of the Android-related news in advance of Google I.O., which used to be the place that they announced all the Android news. which means that you can expect a heck of a lot of artificial intelligence related stuff to be next week no surprise there i think we all kind of assume that's probably the case oh no no one's talking about ai these days um so that's next week this week though we got the android show it's a youtube video where they announce a whole slew of things so we're gonna fill you up with google news because i we got the uh early scoop on this and uh it's some of it's really interesting Google is positioning Android as an intelligence system instead of an operating system.

3:51So, you know, marketing. Powered by Gemini Intelligence. I think that's interesting. Gemini Intelligence is, you know, how these companies walk. I think I have a GI infection. Love it. I hadn't even thought about that. I wonder if they thought about that GI. What's the GI bill for that? Right. They are billing, they are GI billing this first on Pixel 10 and Galaxy S26 this summer, then expanding to a lot of their other surfaces, watches, cars, glasses, laptops, which we're going to talk about. And the updates lean pretty heavily on agentic capabilities, which is handling these multi-step tasks, doing it proactively on behalf of the user.

4:41And so when you think of the phone and these features, what does that actually mean? There's a whole slew of kind of features tied into this multi-step app automation. So being able to use Gemini on your phone to carry out these agentic actions for you inside of apps, that sort of stuff, you know, like ordering a DoorDash for you so that you don't have to open the app and do it yourself, which honestly, sometimes ordering on a phone could be a pain in the butt. But a feature called Rambler, which I love the name because I can't tell you how many times I've talked about talking to AI and LLMs as me rambling.

5:21And so they called it Rambler. And essentially, it's like a voice-to-text mode. But it's not just straight voice-to-text mode. It's like you just ramble into it. Be like, I want to – oh, wait, no, actually, I – blah, blah, blah. You know, you talk for two minutes and it basically gives you the output of something that gets rid of all the extra stuff. Is that just for prompts or is that for anything? That it's just a mode that you can turn your phone into. So it's not just for prompts. It's for anything. It would be, you know, I guess the flip side of this is like, how long did it take you to ramble to get that sentence that it condenses down to?

5:56But I do this into LLMs actually a lot. So I'm looking forward to that. um generate a generative create widget mode or feature i guess so purpose-built widgets custom widgets that you can create on the fly jim and i integrated into that so you know you can be like oh i'm doing the spartan race in three weeks i got it you know i want a countdown widget for the spartan race and a reminder that blah blah blah and it'll create a widget that you can put on your home screen. I think that's pretty useful. Yeah. Yeah. Um, auto fill. So if you come to, you know, a multi, uh, what is it? Multi, a form with lots of different fields.

6:40There we go. A multi-field form, uh, Gemini can be used to basically fill it out for you. So it's not just like auto fill on a single, you know, uh, field that you happen to be in, but like the entire thing, potentially. Yeah. You know, like the thing that I've been able to do since 2001, but now Gemini does it. Got it. Yeah. But, and I think the difference here is like, I can do that on my laptop or I can do that on my computer. Can I fill into multiple fields on my phone? I'm trying to think. Yeah. And it probably can handle different kinds of forms that some of the automated tools can't do.

7:15Yeah. But, but again, you know, we are kind of in the, oh, and now Gemini does everything. See, it does this. Wait a minute. Couldn't I do this before? yeah yeah so yes now with gemini uh chrome gets gemini browsing assistant um it you know can create nano banana images in the browser which okay whatever but um i think more importantly it gets auto browse this is for ai pro and ultra subscribers so you got to be a paid subscriber to get that but this is auto browse agent inside of chrome had it on desktop now coming to the phone. So, okay, that's coming late June. And then a less distracting Material 3 expressive UI.

7:54I've seen some of the shots of this, and yes, it does look closer to liquid glass in some ways, which Google's probably going to minimize. No, it doesn't. But they're going for a less distracted look. Yeah, it's not liquid glass. It's flowing transparency, entirely different thing. Man, I'm happy they thought about that one. They didn't think about GI, eye, but they thought about that. So that's the kind of the Android related stuff. Most of it anyways. Okay. So multi-step app automations are getting better all the time, but there are going to be some hilarious results. Like I am ready for the viral video of somebody trying to do this and it goes hilariously wrong on their Android, as well as a bunch of scare stories about, you know, it doing damaging things or whatever.

8:39This is one where I'm sure there'll be a couple of really good reliable uses for it but it still feels like over promising maybe they'll prove me wrong i you know i know these agentic things if you've if you used them a month ago you you don't know what they're capable of because they keep advancing uh all the time so so i'm i'm sort of holding out my judgment on that rambler i don't need i don't want it to clean up my ums and ahs uh necessarily but I guess if it's voice to text, maybe that's useful. I'm sure it's extremely useful for a lot of folks, including yourself, right? You gave some good examples there.

9:16Um, the widget thing, I think is awesome. Like, because even if it goes wrong, you can just start over again. There's like very little cost to it, getting anything wrong. And the idea, like, I liked the one you gave of like, okay, I'm running a race. I need a timer and a, you know, and this and that. And it was like, great, here's your widget. I feel like I would use widgets more because of that. Totally. It's significant that Chrome on mobile is getting some of the same stuff as the desktop. And then, you know, the design and the autofill we talked about. I do think the big one, the multi-step app automations is where the battle lines will be drawn between critics and Google.

9:50As far as like, why are you putting this in here? It's not useful. It gets it wrong too often, even if it gets it right most of the time. but if it goes really well that is the shot over the bow of ios so if this works really well and people are like this is amazing it can do stuff you know and it's made my life so much easier then all eyes on wwdc what do you do in ios that's a that's a tall order if it makes so much if it makes everything so much easier you know at the end of the day my my view on the agentic push is it only takes one or two times for it to get it horribly wrong for you to lose all trust with agents and it's going to take you months if not years to try it again because you're like no i was burned i'm not going there and so i hope you know i hope that isn't the case um with these future approaches it is important to note that the multi-step app automations they are not allowed to finalize so if i'm adding a bunch of stuff to my doordash cart it will not press the complete or or at least it's not supposed to be able to press the complete transaction button.

10:57It's not going to execute. It's not going to post. It might get my post ready and put it into my app, but it's not going to hit the post button. So there is still human interaction. I think that's where a lot of the criticisms will come of like, well, how useful is this? I had to press the post button at the end and it got a couple of things wrong and I had to correct it, you know, that kind of stuff. Yeah. And, and if you're, if it's doing some of these things, Do you have to keep your display on and keep it? You know what I mean? Like you can't touch your phone because it's busy doing this thing or whatever.

11:28We're going to get to that later. So, yeah, so there's definitely some questions to be answered there. And also, you know, we talked, I think we mentioned this last week on the show, the OpenAI, it was rumor, it continues to be a rumor that OpenAI is working on like a chat GPT phone where they are leaning more heavily into agentic actions on the device, less app-centric and app-focused, more carry out, you know, these tasks between these services. Yeah, just say what you want. It will do it for you. Yeah. And so this would be potentially that, but on Android. This is Google getting ahead of that somewhat anyway.

12:05Yeah, totally, totally. So yeah, we'll see what that turns into. But I think some of the really interesting news here has to do with a new Android-powered laptop category that Google is announcing called Google Book Ships Fall 2026. So later this year, has Gemini integrated into the core experience. Tell me if you've heard this before. but it features so it has a like a it's a totally new laptop lineup so this is not chrome os this is powered by android essentially and it is from what i could tell because i couldn't see the full hardware they have these little bits and pieces that you can glimpse at it maybe on the android show they'll show you the full the full monty but in the pre-release stuff that we got access to as press i can only see little bits and pieces but it's a really nicely designed piece of hardware Definitely like a step up from your standard like classroom plastic Chrome OS thing.

13:02And by the way, it's not Chrome OS. It's Android. So it's kind of an upgrade is how Google is pitching this. Has a different pointer called a magic pointer, which is basically just a pointer. But when you shake your mouse, it turns into like a Gemini pointer. And that allows you to do things like draw suggestions, Gemini interactions based on what it's pointed to. It just becomes like an immediate entree into Gemini based on where the cursor is and what you're doing with it. Remains to be seen how revolutionary that is. But native app support for Android. So this is not emulation after all. This is Android running on the device.

13:40So there is no emulation there. Direct phone access. So direct access, I think, is the name of the feature. But basically, the Google Book is tightly integrated with the phone that it's connected to. So you get immediate access to the file system on your phone. I'm sure that there's some sort of cross-notification sync, something like that. I can't remember if they announced that specifically. It does have a glow bar on the back, which is just like an LED kind of panel on the back that's designed in the case. I don't know if that's functional or just kind of like a, hey, neat. People will know you're on a Google book, but we have heard of Pixel Glow, Encode in recent months and how that has something to do with a phone and a laptop.

14:25So maybe that's it. I'm curious about that. And then partners including Acer, Asus, Dell, HP, and Lenovo. So that's Google book. What do you think? Okay, so I get that Chromebooks, Chrome OS are for cloud integration, and this is for GI integration. This is for Gemini integration. That makes sense to me. uh i i know that you asked about this uh and i don't want you to give away the whole store but where did they say this fits in with chrome os is it going to replace it or are we going to keep having chrome os as some sort of offering they're basically the the company line on this because we did speak with samir samad he leads uh the android team and we have that full interview right now on android faithful so you can kind of hear it in his words but he basically says chrome os isn't going anywhere.

15:22Chrome OS devices solve a very specific scenario, and largely he's referring to classroom use is one big one. Largely he's referring to those very lucrative contracts with educational organizations. They are going to get rid of that whole thing. That's too tightly integrated and rolling and lower price point to entry and all that kind of stuff. Simplified by design so that kids can't just install any of the billions of Android apps. Large revenue generator basically that yeah um yeah they're not going to mess with that this is meant to be kind of the step up and and what he mentioned is like there's a lot of people that want more than just what the chromebook can offer this offers what a chromebook offers but obviously it offers a lot more it's more premium by materials it's just meant to be yeah kind of the leveled up yeah step for people who really want and are willing to spend for that.

16:21Although we didn't get any price in advance, but I imagine these are going to be more expensive than your run-of-the-mill plastic-y, you know, cased Chrome OS laptop in a classroom. Interesting that they put it in the Android show. I mean, it is based on Android, so I guess it has to be in there categorically, but they could have held it for I.O. I imagine we're going to get more details about it at I.O., I do think that we're going to get more details. Primarily what I don't have, and I asked and I didn't get the answer. I'm just like, Google Book equals aluminum OS? Does one lead to the other?

16:58Is this the fruit of that labor? And I would not get an answer. So what I'm wondering— And there's been a lot of leaked material implying that yes, that is the answer, but they don't want to cop into that. Yeah, they're not copping to that yet. And I'm guessing that next week at Google I.O. when they're really talking about kind of the software side of things that they might actually… And if people don't know, what is aluminum? Explain that for folks. How do I even explain aluminum? It's been this thing that's been developing for a few years now that in light, you know, in public light, but Google hasn't until recently talked about it very much.

17:33It's like, yeah, it is like a laptop version of the Android OS. So it's what they're talking about with Google Book, basically. Yeah, I mean, it doesn't have to be a long answer. I wanted them to say it, though. I wanted them to be like, yes, that's it. But they were like, we aren't saying that till next week. Yes. So, OK. All right. That's fair. I think it's smart to keep Chromebooks alive. You know, I'm joking about the revenue, but there is a lot of use for it. There's a lot of demand for it. People won't want to immediately switch to Google Book. If you're going to steal market share, steal from yourself.

18:06You know, put Google book out there and see where it goes. So I get that. That makes sense. I was always a big fan of the premium, you know, was it the pixel book when they came out with that? And, you know, it was premium materials and everybody would always ask me like, who would ever spend that much on a Chromebook? And I was like, you know what? Some people who are just in it for the experience or whatever, they want a better version of that experience and they're willing to pay for it. And this is a step up in the operating system, which I think is the answer to those people. like yeah but you're still just getting chrome os it's like well now you're getting more than that that makes yeah yeah yeah so we'll see what that what that leads to and then finally a few just other bits of of randomness uh quick share spreading um its apple airdrop compatibility to more devices not just pixel and samsung that's coming very very soon to a whole slew of manufacturers that's really good um google rebuilt the ios to android transfer process So they say that the process is better able to migrate more comprehensively.

19:09It does it all wirelessly. That includes eSIM integration. So if you're switching from iOS to Android, I wonder if it works in the opposite direction. It does. That's the one thing they don't want to say, but they worked with Apple on this. So I shouldn't say it does. I don't really know. But I looked at it. I'm like, if you work with Apple on this, this works both ways. So expect to hear that from the Apple side. Yes. And then Android Auto getting a bunch of updates, namely big Material 3 expressive update, getting the custom widgets. So imagine on your Android Auto kind of dashboard being able to throw a custom widget in there.

19:41I'm sure your imagination can take you to some cool places with that. Edge-to-edge maps that fit any display configuration. So they have these like trapezoidal displays, and it's just spread out to the edges. It looks really interesting that they could do that. And then immersive navigation, which really changes the way maps look entirely. It kind of gives it, I don't know, not cartoony, not Pixar-y, but it definitely gives a little bit more of an artistic. As long as I can tell where I'm going, that's what I care about. The rest of this is like, oh, okay, that's cool. Yeah, totally, totally. Gemini Intelligence hitting Android Auto later this year.

20:21That is like agents. So like you're driving and you fire off an agent to order your DoorDash so you can go pick it up or whatever, I suppose. Actually, that one's more appealing to me than on my phone, to be honest, because I can't do it other than by voice at that point. So, yeah, if it works, yeah, I'm into that. Yeah, if it works, right. Although you can't, I wonder if a button comes up on the Android Auto screen to hit confirm. Instagram on Android, finally getting ultra HDR, finally getting tablet optimization. It's a long time coming. And then screen reactions, which allow you to record your screen while also recording your selfies so that you can, I don't know.

20:56I don't know what you do with that. You do a reaction video without needing a green screen, which is, you know, of limited utility to the masses, but pretty great for the people who need it. So, yeah, yeah. A lot of creative stuff in there. Yeah. And interesting that they're working with Meta and Apple directly on stuff. That's cool. Good stuff. Thanks, man. Yeah, it's a chunky release. definitely check out the interview with Samir Samad on today's Android Faithful. We published it early, so you can get it right now. Excellent. Well, that is made possible by patrons of Android Faithful, and this show is made possible by patrons of DTNS.

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24:51All right, there's more we need to know today. Let's get to the briefs. Yeah, thanks to Greg N. in the subreddit for tipping us off to this one to follow up on. In Structure, the maker of a school information portal called Canvas announced Tuesday that it has reached an agreement With attackers who accessed 275 million people's data on April 29th, Canvas is used by approximately 9 ,000 schools. That's why there's so much data in there. The access to data included usernames, email addresses, course names, enrollment information, and messages between teachers and students. It did not access class materials.

25:29That is something they were very firm and insistent about. Instructure said that the attackers exploited, quote, a vulnerability regarding support tickets in our free-for-teacher environment. They have shut down that environment while they conduct a security review, aka fix the vulnerability. The attackers threatened to publish the data. This was not a lockup of the system. They threatened to publish the data if they did not receive a ransom. Instructure did not comment on the details of the agreement. But if they were asking for a ransom and they've agreed on something, one can reasonably conclude they must have paid them something.

26:09They did say they received digital confirmation of data destruction, shred logs, though the company also admitted there is never complete certainty in these situations that the data is gone. So if you are a customer of Canvas, student or teacher, beware of phishing scams that could use that data. The attackers told TechCrunch, the data is deleted, gone. The company and its customers will not further be targeted or contacted for payment by us. And, you know, if you believe them, they are saying the right things. But yeah, this was quite a big attack, quite a big surface area. Messages is not great in this world of LLMs, where you could use that to try to, you know, increase the, you know, veritas of your phishing attack.

26:56The rest of it is, I hate to say it, username, email address, and course names. It's kind of par for the course in these kinds of things. Not great, trust me. I'm not trying to minimize it, but it's not exceptional in its stuff there. So the messages part is sort of the unique aspect of this. And no matter what they say, let's assume they deleted it. Data is infinitely copyable. So they could think they deleted it and somebody copied it and didn't tell them. and that stuff could get out. So if you're a Canvas user, be aware of someone playing on the kind of information they could have obtained by getting this database.

27:35Yeah, and of course there's some reaction to the fact that they likely paid this by saying like, hey, they don't want to admit they paid, right? Totally, don't do that. You're just making it more likely that more of this is going to happen, which is the double-edged sword that a company like this ends up in when something like this happens. You're kind of damned if you do and damned if you don't, right? If you don't pay the ransom, your business could stay down. You risk losing things. And they weren't locked up. So it does make it a little difference. Yeah, and they weren't locked up in this case.

28:06One argument is assume that the data is out there. If you're paying, you're paying for them to not release the data. But if you're assuming the data is out there anyway, you're not getting anything for paying. Yeah, and do you trust them when you pay them that they are going to hold themselves to their word? The other aspect is the attackers came in a second time and defaced the web page, which is an easy trick for attackers to do, but it showed that they weren't giving up. And I think that may have also pushed them to be like, we don't want to continually be harassed. So let's take care of this.

28:41Yeah, that makes sense. Former OpenAI CTO Mira Mirati's company Thinking Machines announced a research preview of interaction models on Monday. its headline feature, the ability to process input and generate a response at the same time. So in other words, full duplex. You can both talk at the same time, and at least the TML interaction model will not have to stop thinking. The model's capable of interrupting and adjusting mid-response, which promises to bring it closer to the feel of real conversational flow. Thinking Machines claims the TML Interaction small model can respond in 0.4 seconds, which is about the speed of natural human conversation.

29:24Limited research preview for select users will come in the next few months. So you can't get access to this right now. There's a wider release set for later this year. I think this is interesting as we talk with these chatbots more. This is certainly something that I butted up against, which is, strangely, the desire for the thing to either interrupt me when I'm going down a strange path or to just kind of get out of the way because it really does feel very turn-based right now. And I wouldn't mind it feeling more conversational. Yeah, it's a compelling feature that I would love to try when Thinking Machines actually releases it rather than putting out a press release to try to get attention today for some reason.

30:06yeah they've got to justify that they are new that there's a lot of people waiting for them to to release something that's yeah those are all true those are not lies but the timing of this announcement is picked by thinking machines for a reason uh so you know i assume they just were like oh there's a gap in the schedule but let's get people thinking about our company again uh and start building up hype for this so i i don't have too much to say about it until i can actually see but it's a cool idea. I like it. Yeah. Yeah. No, I completely agree. Business Insider has an article shining a spotlight on power users walking around in public spaces with their laptops half open so that coding agents can finish long running tasks without losing their state or their tokens.

30:54Basically, this is the like, I don't want my laptop to go to sleep except for agents. The article shares examples of people who are doing this, uh, walking out of their house, boarding airplanes, running between classes at school, tying their daughter's ice skates on at the skating rink. Uh, I have done this because I was uploading a recording at dragon con. Uh, and so I was running from one hotel to the other with an open laptop that was uploading. Uh, uh, I have not done it with an agent, Jason. Do you know anyone who's done it with an agent? Oh, hey, Tom. How's it going? I didn't see you walk into the room here.

31:35And this is, yes, this is ridiculous. And yes, I have done it. It's okay. It's a safe space, Jason. Don't be afraid. I don't understand why you're calling me out in such a violent manner on this show, Tom. It wasn't violent. I was just asking. No, no. It feels like violence. It feels like violence. No, I did this yesterday. I literally I literally did this yesterday. And then you put this story in and I was like, I felt called out. I was like, oh, shoot. Okay. Business Insider, why are you attacking Jason like that? Yeah, seriously. If you're going to put me in your article, at least use my name.

32:06At least interview me or something. Were you tying on your daughter's skates? No. I was getting ready to leave the house for a meeting with someone about something. And I had been working with an agent on notes that I wanted to have prepared for that said meeting. and as I was leaving, it was still churning. And so I left it open, connected it to my hotspot, walked out into my yard, set it on my passenger seat and drove to my thing because it was connected to the hotspot and everything. I probably looked ridiculous. And now I know how my neighbors feel when they look out and they see me walking around with a half-open laptop.

32:42But what you gonna do? Agent's gonna agent. Yeah, you don't wanna lose those tokens. They're valuable. Don't wanna lose those tokens. But now I feel ridiculous about it. If you would like to share your story of keeping your laptop open, the safe space of our Discord is available for you. You can access our Discord by linking a Patreon account. Become a patron at patreon.com slash DTNS.

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34:11All right, now some super quick headlines that are good to know might make you look smarter in the future i'm so shocked that gambling is happening in this casino and also that ebay's board officially rejected gamestop's 56 billion dollar offer describing it as neither credible nor attractive the ball is now in gamestop ceo gary cohen's court because he said before that if he got turned down by the board he would go directly to shareholders oh i wonder if he's sad um the because yeah you know it just didn't work out for you i don't know what to tell you The Financial Times reports that Amazon employees use Amazon's in-house mesh claw agent to automate unnecessary activity in order to meet token consumption goals set by the company.

34:55This is ridiculous. Meta does it, too. Tokens maxing stories everywhere. OpenAI launched its own Mythos, a security product called Daybreak. Actually, this is more like Project Glasswing than Mythos. It promises to generate and test security patches fast. Select partners get it at launch, including Cloudflare, Cisco, Cloudstrike, Palo Alto Networks, Oracle, and Akamai. Amazon expanded 30-minute delivery. It's called Amazon Now to a few dozen more U.S. cities. Plans to expand more by the end of the year. 30-minute delivery. That's crazy. Not in my neighborhood yet, but soon. Spotify is celebrating its 20th birthday since its founding with the Party of the Year.

35:38It's got an S in parentheses. It's basically Spotify wrapped, but for your entire listening history. So the entire time you've used Spotify. Well, there you go. Dig, remember Dig? Yeah. And then remember that they just launched, relaunched a little bit ago and then that didn't work out. Well, now they've relaunched as a news aggregator, more like tech meme than Reddit. The first topic being AI. It looks pretty interesting. I like the way they're going with that. U.S. Department of Defense is deploying Anthropics Mythos to find and patch software vulnerabilities. while at the same time officially transitioning away from using Anthropix products.

36:15Okay, that makes a lot of sense. And encryption for RCS-based conversations between Android and iOS phones began rolling out in beta on Monday. You'll see a lock icon if you're in a protected chat. Congratulations. Out of the dang time. And TikTok launched TikTok Go in the U.S. It is not a video service like HBO Go. So it's a way to book things like tours and hotels and tickets to attractions from within the TikTok app. So you're looking at cool TikTok about a place. You're like, I want to stay there. You can do it through partners like Booking.com, Expedia, Get Your Guide, Ticket, Trip.com, and Viator.

36:53All right. And finally, we end every episode of DT &S with some shared perspectives. We got some emails today from Peter and Christian starting with - Yeah. Yeah. Peter observed in relation to the story yesterday of Reddit trying to maybe force some unlogged in users on the web to go to the app. In the official Reddit app, I still think there's no way to block ads without subscribing to Reddit premium. And you probably still get their sponsored content or whatnot. If you're logged in on mobile, I'm guessing they can do more to track you and you're more valuable. That made sense. And what Peter and also Sakani wrote in about this as well.

37:30pointed out is you can't block ads on the app the way you can do an ad blocker on the web. So that's another part of this. Thanks, Peter and Sakani both. Makes a lot of sense. Yep. And Friday, we said cloud gaming hasn't really taken off or something along those lines anyway. And Christian took issue with that. Christian wrote, GeForce Now has a big subscription base, 25 million. It has existed as beta since 2015 and as full release since 2020. Boosteroid, launched in 2019, has 8 million subscribers. And you guys say Stadia over and over again. Though I guess maybe none of you at DTNS know much about cloud gaming.

38:10I think at most you've mentioned Xbox Ultimate Cloud Streaming. Tough Xbox streaming has bad quality. It's much worse than GFN and Boosteroid. So this is someone whose identity is very much tied into cloud gaming. And I don't think we were trying to say cloud gaming hasn't really taken off. Maybe we did say those words. But I think the point was like console gaming and its 600 million users are still very strong. So I don't know, Jason. No, I think you summarize it exactly. If it came across that what I was saying is cloud gaming hasn't taken off, that is not a point that I actually believe. I think that cloud gaming is stronger than it's ever been right now.

38:53um i just really enjoy any opportunity to pull my stadia box off the shelf and because what else exactly what else am i going to do you know what was cloud gaming when stadia came out i mean it was a pretty early stages and what's what stadia was able to do was pretty impressive clearly it didn't last for google and and they they killed it uh far too early potentially but i think we're at a much different place now than we were then but yeah console gaming still pretty darn strong And I think that was the overall point. Yeah, yeah. And I appreciate Christian reminding us GeForce Now has got a posse.

39:28$25 million ain't nothing. And it's cool to mention things like Boosteroid and others. There's others out there as well. So thank you, Christian, for reminding us of those. Appreciate that. What are you thinking about? You got something you want to share an insight with? Share it with us. Feedback at DailyTechNewsShow.com. Yeah, thanks once again to Peter and Christian for contributing to today's show. And thank you for being along for Daily Tech News Show. You can keep us in business by becoming a patron at patreon.com slash DTNS. See you tomorrow.

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