Anthropic’s Move to Secure the World - DTNS 5243

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2:27this is the daily tech news for wednesday april 8th 2026 we tell you what you need to know we give you some important context and we try to understand ourselves and hopefully that helps you today anthropic gets the world's biggest competing tech companies to cooperate on security and why that shouldn't be as scary as it is. We'll get to that. I'm Tom Merritt. And I'm Sarah Lane. Let's start with what you need to know with that big story. Yeah, so thanks to RW Nash and Motang. Both noted different aspects of this story on our subreddit. A lot of things happening in the subreddit, by the way. I just want to take a moment to say, like, you may have one of the top upvoted stories on there, and we very much appreciate it.

3:09If that story doesn't make it into the show, it's for different reasons. But keep at it, man. The subreddit's really perking along these days. All right, let's get to this one. Anthropic announced Project Glasswing to, quote, secure the world's most critical software. Amazon Web Services, Apple, Broadcom, the chipmaker, Cisco, CrowdStrike, Google, JPMorgan Chase, the bank, the Linux Foundation, Microsoft, NVIDIA, and Palo Alto Networks are all partners in this effort. Those partners are also contributing together$4 million and$100 million in usage credits on Anthropics systems to the project, because this project is not about securing their systems.

3:57It will include their systems, of course, but it's about securing everything. The announcement says, quote, no one organization can solve these cybersecurity problems alone. Frontier AI developers, other software companies, security researchers, open source maintainers, and governments across the world all have essential roles to play. So Project Glasswing will donate Claude Max subscriptions to verifiable open source developers who request it. If you're like, hey, I need some help with this, you can apply for that. They're also having the Open Source Security Foundation, the Linux Foundation's Alpha Omega Project and the Apache Software Foundation help maintainers of open source software fix and maintain projects.

4:44Project Glasswing will find the vulnerabilities and they're doing different things to try to help people be able to have the time and resources to fix those things. Project is powered by a general purpose model, not a security specific model, called Claude Mythos Preview. It is, of course, in preview. Claude Mythos will not be released to the general public, at least not for now. However, 40 organizations, including those 11 that are partners, will have access to it through Anthropik's Trusted Partner Program. One of the reasons they're limiting access is that this particular model is extremely capable.

5:23It's capable of fixing things, but it could also be used to break things. For example, Mythos was able to escape a sandboxed environment that was designed to keep it from accessing the internet. It got to the internet, emailed a researcher to say, hey, I was able to get to the internet. Here's how I did it. And then it made some postings on public facing channels about how it did it. Anthropic says Mythos has found thousands of security vulnerabilities. And they said, and I quote, including some in every major operating system and web browser, some of them in software with a really good reputation for security.

5:59Some of them have existed for decades. One example, Anthropic says Mythos found a 27-year-old bug in OpenBSD. OpenBSD is used on routers because it is considered one of the most secure operating systems out there. Another thing it found was a line of code in a video application that they didn't name that had been scanned more than 5 million times in the past 16 years by automated security tools, and that line of code was considered an example of secure code. Anthropic is also in talks with the U.S. government for using it to secure its systems, of course, with supply chain risk designation going back and forth.

6:38They all get along really well, don't they? Yeah, that's a very interesting conversation. But yeah, this is frightening in a way that the companies feel that the pace of security vulnerability discovery because of frontier models is so fast that they need to cooperate together on this. so for anybody listening to what you just laid out here on one hand it's like this sounds great sounds like project glasswing is going to solve a lot of security vulnerabilities that just had been missed before the the the the danger the fear right is that then it could be used by the wrong set of hands and do stuff that's nefarious.

7:28Yeah. And I think the attitude is the wrong set of hands has got some pretty powerful tools. We would like to keep them from using Mythos, which is an even more powerful tool, but we can use Mythos to help stop them from using their tool to find vulnerabilities. A couple of the quotes from people involved were, you know, the discovery of vulnerabilities has gone from months to minutes for people who want to find it. And, you know, That is frightening. Whenever you get into security topics, people do tend to talk in frightening terms because they want to make sure you take it seriously. But I don't think that's an exaggeration that you can use these tools to find vulnerabilities much faster than you used to.

8:05Yeah. I mean, over on cybersecurity headlines of the CISO series, which I work on as well, this was obviously a big topic yesterday, last night. And yeah, any CISO will tell you, you take it seriously. you know like even even if it doesn't end up being as serious as you think it's going to be yeah that's what you do err on the side of taking it seriously for sure yeah um i i read a really good article on zdnet uh from a security professional who's worked in you know high level positions for a long time saying you know i he initially looked at this with some skeptical eyes of like is this kind of a press release he's like but then i i dug into what these companies are actually saying.

8:48I looked at the fact that companies from varying industries are cooperating on this. And he's like, I think this is necessary. I'm glad people are doing it. I personally, myself, would like to see OpenAI, Microsoft, well, I guess Microsoft is involved, but OpenAI, Google, other frontier model makers involved in this as well. I think Anthropic is the only one doing it because it's Anthropic's mythos that is extremely capable at fixing these things. But I would like to see Project Glasswing become something that is just industry-wide, and it doesn't matter whether Anthropic started it or not. It is used by everyone to secure infrastructure.

9:30It's a standard. Yeah. I mean, that could be kind of unprecedented in the world of security and be a great template for security cooperation going forward. But I mean, if Anthropic can do this, then lots of other companies can also do stuff like this. And that's where standards can get muddy, right? Because you have competing standards from companies who stand to benefit from being the company that said, we did this. Yeah. And that's why I think the value of Project Glasswing is not so much mythos. Mythos is just of the moment. It's the cooperation. So if OpenAI can join this and then say, we have a model that can find different kinds of bugs faster, then yes, you should use both, right?

10:11Make this thing agnostic eventually. This is a good start. I'm not criticizing it, but it's like right at the start. And I think it would be good if it became something that was not predicated just on one particular model. Well, we know you all have thoughts on all this stuff. And many of you are listening right now. DTNS is made possible by you listening and some of you watching. Thanks to AB Puppy, Dale McKahee, Matt Zaglin, and Courtney Robertson. Yay! Thank you for your support.

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13:37There's more we need to know today. Let's get to the briefs. Let's do it. Amazon emailed users that it's discontinuing support for Kindle e-readers and Fire tablets, don't get crazy, released in 2012 or before. It's almost hard for me to say 2012. It's so old. It was so long ago. Starting May 20th, you won't be able to purchase or borrow or download new books on those devices, specifically those devices. Factory resets after the date will break that device. So think carefully before you try that. Amazon estimates this will affect less than 3 % of all Kindle users. Affected users were offered 20 % off a new Kindle and ebook credits if they decide to replace it by June 20th.

14:23Yeah, these are 14 to 18 year old devices. And so I ask you, how many devices do you have that are that old, that have electronics in them that you still use, you know, maybe a fridge or a laundry machine or something like that. So anybody who's still using these, good job getting full use out of them. I do think it would be nice if there was a way to even avoid the factory reset causing the brick. I don't think the bricking happens on the Fire tablets. I think it's only on the Kindles. And I think it's because the Kindles rely on servers to get updated software when you do the factory reset, and they just won't be providing that.

15:02It'd be nice if they continue to provide that. But I get what they're saying, which is a very small number of users use this. It is a cost to continue to maintain them. And we don't think it's worthwhile. And I think every company has to have a line about we will not support our device at this point in the world of consumer electronics anyway. And again, fewer than 3 % of Kindle users. If that number is accurate, it's not a lot of folks. How many Kindle users are there? I'm just curious if we can find. It looks like 90 million e-readers have been sold, but that doesn't mean they're all being used.

15:37Still, it's going to affect a lot of people. I mean, I've got an Oasis circa 2021. And it works fine. But even that, if this were to happen, I'd be like, well, we had a good run. I'm going to have to charge up my original Kindle before May 20th and see if it still works. You better do it. It's been sitting there off up on the shelf. Download a book. Yeah. Go nuts. See if I can while there's still time. Boy Genius Report has a good write-up about who should be concerned about blue light coming from their monitors. This is something, man, you see this in clickbait headlines and advertisements all the time.

16:19A lot of conventional wisdom is like, oh, got to watch out for the blue light. but most of us don't need to be concerned with it. Blue light comes from the sun as well. So getting it from your monitor isn't inherently bad, just like the sun. Too much sun is bad, but just walking out in the sun is not dangerous. You get a little vitamin D. Yeah, exactly. It can be beneficial. The only effect there is good evidence of is that blue light can affect your circadian rhythms and therefore your sleep schedule, which is also true of the sun. It's why it's harder to sleep when the sun is up or why when you're trying to cure jet lag, you get out into the sun to try to reset your circadian rhythms.

16:59So filtering blue light with something like blue light glasses could be warranted if you work night shifts or if you just can't stop yourself from using your phone before you go to bed to try to stop the blue light from keeping you away. Or in the middle of the night. Or if you're around some kind of blue light emitting device in the hours before bedtime and you're not in control of it, maybe having those glasses on before you close your eyes, you don't have to sleep with them, but that could be helpful. I'm curious what those last situations are. I saw that in the literature and I'm like, I'm sure it exists where somebody has a blue light outside the house.

17:35I can't do anything about it. Or you're trying to sleep in a barracks or something where there's monitors on or something could be something like that, I guess. I know people, some people take this, the blue light thing very seriously. And do you have blue light filtering options throughout the day? I'm one of those people who just, I don't look at my phone in the middle of the night or right before bed. It's just, it's just not something that I need to do. Yeah. I mean, I need to do it or look at a monitor, you know, whatever the monitor size is throughout the day. But, but I don't really have that issue.

18:13But boy, you know, the folks who, like you said, work in night shifts and you need to just think a lot harder or Amos up in Alaska, you know, in the summer where it never stops being sunny. You know, you just you have to figure out solutions so that your body naturally will sleep. I really liked this story, too, because it was very, very much saying like, hey, blue light itself is not the problem. Here's where you should be concerned. and otherwise you don't need to. If you're just wearing blue light glasses during the day while you're using your monitor, it's not really doing much for you. We're not keeping us from having cancer of the eyes by wearing those blue light glasses.

18:57At least not in this particular instance. Well, Insta360 released the Snap Selfie Screen, which is the 3.5-inch display that connects to your phone by USB-C and connects magnetically to the back of your phone. so you can use the rear camera for better quality selfies. It's 6.8 millimeters thick, so not very thick, and they include a magnetic ring if your phone doesn't have a Qi magnet on it already. You can adjust camera settings from the display, and it also supports Android phones that offer DisplayPort alt mode. The Insta360 Snap costs$80, or you have an option for a built-in light that includes color temp and brightness controls.

19:37That's$90. Yeah, you can find other devices like this. It's not the first of its kind, but this is one that really is fully featured, you know, with the ability to include that magnetic ring or have the magnetic clasp and the adjust the camera settings, the compatibility with Android, all of that, all in one package from a reputable maker. I think this is interesting. It could be a good birthday gift. Totally. That's exactly what I was thinking. Yeah. Especially like the sub 100. I mean, yeah, it's not$15. Wouldn't that be nice? But for somebody who's like, I take a lot of selfies. Maybe it's for work.

20:14Maybe it's, you know, I don't do it for whatever reason that you want to do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, it's not going to break the bank. And again, like you said, Insta360 is a company that people already like and trust. Yeah, it's becoming. Eileen just got one of the Insta360 cameras to try it out because it's becoming a competitor for DJI in that space, in that camera gimbal space. And she likes it so far. So I think it's got a good reputation as a supplier of this sort of thing. And I found this to be a really interesting product for them to put out. And it seems like a very good version of that kind of product.

20:54Well, maybe Eileen would like to come on an episode of Live With It to talk about it. I may have asked her if she would do that. And she said that she would be willing to. Great minds, great minds. Thinking alike. Speaking of living with it, what are you all living with these days? On this week's Live With It, Rob Dunwood is talking about using Samsung's Dex for desktop computing from his phone. And he had some thoughts. Rob always has thoughts, but this was a good one. Every week on Live With It, we talk about technology we actually use. not just for a week or a product review, something that we're actually living with.

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21:49This episode is brought to you by Capital One. Capital One's tech team isn't just talking about multi-agentic AI. They already deployed one. It's called Chat Concierge and it's simplifying car shopping. Using self-reflection and layered reasoning with live API checks, it doesn't just help buyers find a car they love. It helps schedule a test drive, get pre-approved for financing, and estimate trade in value. Advanced, intuitive, and deployed. That's how they stack. That's technology at Capital One. If your eyes are the windows to your soul and your glasses are the windows to your eyes, then it's pretty important to find your perfect frames.

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23:15And then right after the show, Mark Gurman came out with like, my sources are telling me it's still on for 2026. So fingers crossed, we still get it in 2026. Fender has released the ELE 6 and ELE 12. Is it ELE or ELE? I don't know. It's E-L-I-E. These are Bluetooth speakers that include quarter inch and XLR inputs so that you can use them as amps. These are Fender amps that are also Bluetooth speakers is another way of looking at it. They are$300 and$400 respectively. I am really loving the design quality on Fender stuff these days. Yeah, it's nice. Fender is having some fun. The exposed wood may not be great.

23:54It's considered a con in some of these reviews, but it looks good. It looks good. And what else matters when it's an audio device than what looks good? The Android 17 beta now includes system-level controller remapping so you can customize a connected controller to your liking. Ah, it's something people have wanted for a long time. WhatsApp has updated its Apple CarPlay design for all users. You may have seen this was available in beta, but you can now get it for everybody. It'll show your call history, your favorite contacts are in a tab now, and you have the ability to see a profile info for all your contacts.

24:29That is helpful. Valve launched Steam Link for the Apple Vision Pro, meaning that you can use your Steam games from a wirelessly connected Mac or PC while using the Vision Pro as your display. Ah, the New York Times is the latest to think it has identified Satoshi Nakamoto, the inventor of Bitcoin. New York Times thinks it's UK cryptographer Adam Back. Back says it wasn't me. It's literally a quote. I was going to make that the jokey Afro man quote, but that's actually what he said. And he calls the New York Times evidence a coincidence. I mean, when, when it's like, it's like searching for Banksy.

25:11And I think we know who Banksy is now, but, uh, but you've got, you know, half the people are like, I am Satoshi. And then the other half of the people are like, no, it's not me. not and this reporter fell for the trap of like i was in the room talking to him and his denials made me sure that it was him and i'm like yes that's what every reporter wants to think when you're in the room that doesn't mean it's not him but it doesn't mean it is either so yeah i mean didn't we all watch the usual suspects you just don't know china telecom launched a data center in china using 10 000 of alibaba's jenwu ai semiconductors a big advance for the country's domestically made chips.

25:50They just keep inching forward with this stuff. Microsoft terminated the account of open source encryption software VeraCrypt, meaning the developer cannot sign Windows drivers or the bootloader and therefore cannot publish Windows updates to VeraCrypt. Microsoft has not responded. Doesn't affect the Linux or macOS versions of this, but a very, very odd situation. VeraCrypt's been around forever. I've used it before as well. It's pretty good software, honestly. And Meta released a lightweight consumer LLM called Spark, now available in the Meta AI app. Yeah, that kind of got washed away in the anthropic news today, but good for you.

26:30Meta's like, we're doing it too. It's called Spark and it's very lightweight. Hey, you know, consumer apps, I'm into it. We end every episode of DTNS with shared perspectives. today, another norm, so not norm, but that other norm, has more thoughts on the MacBook Neo. Yes, the not norm, Fizikas norm writes, I love what Yaniv said about the Mac Mini Neo or whatever it should be called. Mac Mini is about half the price of a MacBook Air. If they can get the Mac Neo down to$300, half of the MacBook version, then a lot of things open up. Makerspaces, robotics if you can figure out a battery pack etc basically 300 is around the price of a full kit for a raspberry pi 5 8 gigabyte schools if apple's getting more serious about schools again make it 225 250 for schools and all sorts of clubs and classes could take advantage of it not just science robotics and ai programming etc but also art graphic design drawing animation audio visual creation.

27:32And finally, for your home, the Apple TV is already the A16 chip at$150 with 128 gigabytes of storage. Merge the idea of the Apple TV home and a small AI in one box. Home entertainment and able to play iOS and macOS video games. That would also fit what you read about their AI plans. AI apps on a small cheap box using whatever AI you want. Don't know if they could add a cheaper screen to compete with Amazon. So is or Nest. Anyway, that's the thoughts from another Norm who went to high school with me. Go Comets. Oh, were you in high school together at the same time? Yes, but I don't know. I don't think we were in the same grade.

28:15I actually emailed him like, what year were you? Yeah, like, come on, give me something. Did you wear a green t-shirt every day, norm uh this is i i i don't know if you're using an apple tv on a regular basis these yeah that's that's my main driver in the living room for sure yeah yeah yeah i i i definitely i'm not using my mac storage on my apple tv but uh but yeah that's a very interesting point is yeah you got the MacBook Air Neo, or MacBook Neo, that is priced more competitively than other MacBooks. And then think about if it was a Mac Mini Neo priced competitively. And then if it was some sort of Apple TV Neo device, then, I mean, I don't know how low Apple is willing to go price-wise, because the Apple TV isn't all that expensive, you know, comparatively.

29:15But yeah, interesting, interesting ideas. Yeah, I like the idea of like a TVOS Ultra or an Apple TV Ultra or something where it's not just TVOS. You get the full Mac operating system on top of it or something. It's not very Apple-like to do stuff like that. They don't like to overcomplicate things, but I would like it. It'd be fun. You know, you never know what's going to happen this year. We may get a foldable after all. Maybe we'll get a foldable Apple TV. If you're thinking about anything that we touched on on the show or you want us to talk about on a future show, let us know. Share it to feedback at DailyTechNewsShow.com.

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30:39and layered reasoning with live API checks, it doesn't just help buyers find a car they love. It helps schedule a test drive, get pre-approved for financing, and estimate trade-in value. Advanced, intuitive, and deployed. That's how they stack. That's technology at Capital One. Hey, it's Paige from Giggly Squad. You already know, once I'm in my jammies, I'm in my final form. And lately, my last step before fully clocking out is the CoverGirl Jammie Lip Sleeping Mask. I just twist, apply with a mess-free applicator and let the dreamy lavender scent literally tuck me in. By morning, my lips feel smooth, revitalized, and baby soft while I'm doing absolutely nothing.

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