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2:57Hey, Sarah, did you hear Apple had a big announcement?

3:00Sarah Lane: No. What was it? You didn't. I'm shocked, actually. No, I was watching and following along, taking notes like we all were. Yeah, a lot of stuff, a lot of stuff covered. A little F1 promo shtick at the beginning, which I guess makes sense since they're behind that movie. I was surprised that they led with Apple Intelligence, like right out of the gate after the F1 shtick. And the, you know, the sort of Apple TV is great thing. They were like, hey, we've got more on Siri in the coming year, you know, but we've got things that we're going to talk about. We think we have great on device, et cetera, et cetera.

3:36they did follow up on that with a you know sprinkling of apple intelligence announcements throughout the rest of the stuff and they went right in with the foundation models framework trying to pitch developers like hey you can use our on-device private apple llm in your apps without risking user privacy anytime you want i thought it was interesting and bold and very apple like to do that yeah what did what did you think of that and the rest of the announcement

4:02Sarah Lane: Well, I think if because so many people were like, Apple is so behind in the intelligence LLM market, I think that if Apple would have buried this part of it, people would have said, see, they have nothing. I don't really feel like they had a whole lot to talk about. Certainly, Apple intelligence got peppered in throughout the entire 90-minute announcement. You know, here and there, you're like, oh, that's cool. Oh, that's cool. um it but yes like you said very very apple-esque very sort of like we've thoughtfully uh decided that this is the way that you're going to use our our stuff moving forward uh we are not open ai we are not anthropic we are not um you know gemini we we are apple and we do things differently yeah trying trying to really sell that idea of uh they they use it when it's good and otherwise why would you want it.

4:59And we have a story later in the show kind of bears on more of their thinking on that. But I guess the star of the show was liquid glass, the new expressive material design, but not expressive design, because that's what Google does, which is more rounded corners, more transparent interface elements, trying to make the screen feel more expansive, not block your content, new clear look. But the icons all look the same. It's not a dramatic change of the visual language of the icons so much as it is the visual language of how they're shaped and styled, I guess?

5:33Sarah Lane: I gotta say now, if somebody disagrees with me, please write in. But I was sort of like, okay. It didn't seem that groundbreaking to me. It looks nice, but it doesn't really, I don't feel like it's like, wow, my whole experience is gonna be so different with liquid glass. I don't know. know freeing up space uh by by using um this os sure who who doesn't want that but otherwise it's kind of incremental to me yeah it really feels like the kind of thing i'm going to have to use to tell if it makes as much of a difference as they want me to believe it does or not like it just doesn't come across in a demo um yeah in this kind of stream demo i i'm also a person who's like uh if your icons are rounded or square i don't know i just want to like tap it and get my pizza Yeah.

6:27Sarah Lane: Yeah. Half the time it's like some of this artistic stuff is a little lost on me. We may be delighted when we start to use it as they kept saying we would be, but we'll have to try it to find out. By the way, if you're a developer, you can start trying it out today. Developer versions available. Betas for the public coming in July and everybody getting it sometime in the autumn, which is pretty standard stuff. Also, as expected, the version numbers have changed. It's now based on the year. So the releases of all of these things will be 26, iOS 26, iPad OS 26, watch OS 26, which kind of makes things easier to remember, honestly.

7:04Sarah Lane: Oh, I 100 % feel that way. In fact, I was having a conversation with somebody last week and they're like, they're really just going to jump to 26 just with no rhyme or reason? I'm like, no, there is rhyme and reason. In fact, it's way easier to keep tabs on this stuff. that devices themselves have a different naming convention. Yeah. But the software, it makes sense to me. A big problem coming in 2099, though. What are they going to do in 2100? They're going to be iOS 100? It's Y2K all over again. All right, let's go through. We cannot get to all the things they announced because they announced them the way we would here.

7:47It would take us literally 90 minutes to announce everything. but what were the big takeaways for you from iOS 26?

7:54Sarah Lane: All right. Well, so iOS 26, um, some lock screen stuff, um, stood out to me. Uh, one of the things that can be a little frustrating with, and I don't have my iPhone in front of me right now. I don't know why. Um, frustrating with me on my lock screen is I have a variety of notifications, but not all of them. And, uh, you know, and then you unlock the phone and then it's sort of like, you got to swipe down, to get the notifications again. Some of it is just sort of clunky. It does sound like Apple is trying to address some of that clunkiness by giving you just a little bit more context on that lock screen.

8:31Sarah Lane: Well, still obviously being privacy. Yeah, I love that they're catching up with Google on the call screening. And I think their implementation of it is really nice. So if you didn't see that, the phone app can now answer a call from an unknown number automatically and then ring to let you know what the info is. use the Apple intelligence to summarize the info. And then as in their example, if it's the flower delivery person, you can actually pick up the phone and say, oh yeah, I'll be right down. And if it's a spam call, you can just say, nope, hang up on them and you're done. I want to know what the flower delivery person, the real person, you know, who's at your door, what do they hear?

9:11Yeah. I'm curious what the script is going to be. Like with Google, it's like, hi, uh, you know, I'm answering the phone on behalf of Sarah, uh, who's calling. And they, you know, they do some, some Google Gemini informed stuff. And if it's spam, they usually

9:25Sarah Lane: just hang up. Yeah. Yeah. And this, this one, it seems like it'll, well, or they'll tell you. And then on pixel, I can be like, Nope, don't need that. Which is pretty much all I do on the pixel because Tom, don't you want to refinance your house? Yeah. I never get any actual real calls on my pixel because it's a different number. Also, hold assist. It seems like it could be handy, although I'm not sure if I trust that one as much. Like I might get hung up on by the customer service person if they don't understand what's going on. Yeah. You always kind of want to do that within their own phone tree system.

9:59Yeah, and then live translation on the fly with either live voice translation or captions over FaceTime and phone. Kind of nifty. and they were showing it in messages as well. I think the thing that really got me most excited was lyrics translation on music. I actually thought of you. I thought of you.

10:20Sarah Lane: I was like, you know what? This is something Tom would like. There's definitely a lot of Korean songs that I need translation on. I thought it was interesting. They used Hearts to Hearts, a brand new group, by the way, as the example. Anything else? Wallet, you're getting car keys, the games app, as we had heard. is coming on. Visual intelligence can now pull in details from a screenshot, not just from your camera. I think that makes it much more useful. Indeed. Very much so. Yeah. I mean, the, you know, the, the standalone games app probably won't use it as much as the next person. I know that some people are going to be really happy about that.

10:58Sarah Lane: I was very interested in some of the car play stuff. So I use car play. I, That is the way that I use my car. I mean, if my phone were to be dead or something, I guess I wouldn't use it. But no, I mean, that is what I use in my car. So a new, more compact design that allows for notifications. And of course, CarPlay notifications are different than they would be on your phone because, of course, it's assuming that you're driving and you can't be looking at that center console all the time. But you've got pin conversations. You know, if you're trying to just kind of keep stuff going on the fly and and new widgets, live activities, things like, you know, flight status all coming to CarPlay.

11:44Sarah Lane: So, again, very much depends on who you are, why are you in your car and how do you use this? Yeah. But for me, a lot of the stuff spoke to me. Now, when they said CarPlay Ultra, I was like, oh, yeah, here we go. No, it's not for my car. it's more like like an aston martin right that's like the only that's the one they showed and they and they didn't specifically say like they were like it's very you know we're you know where it's a small rollout but coming to many more manufacturers soon where i was like oh well that's what i wanted to hear yeah carplay i wanted the more manufacturers carplay ultra is the one that runs in the car it doesn't just reflect it from the phone it has launched on cars which they didn't mention by name they didn't mention anybody my name no they sure didn't um they showed how it could be it could uh you could you you could make it your own speedometer and mileage and you know all that stuff and not that i hate what my car has currently which is a digital display as well but i was like oh that'd just be so fun to be able to you know just kind of change it like a watch face yeah so uh not happening with my volvo today all right uh they spent most of the time on ios and so we did too but let's take a quick look at the other stuff uh watch os 26 the smart stack will have a better prediction algorithm wrist flick to dismiss notifications mute calls silent alarms uh which is nice and workout buddy uh can use text-to-speech model based on a fitness plus trainer to encourage you at key moments of your workout i hated this tom everyone did everyone is like why would i hate it it was it was not not that i didn't have thoughts on the rest of the announcement that was the only uh ex post that i sent was like don't want workout buddy and now it's not because i think it's unhelpful or somehow you know going to like hurt my uh exercise progress but it's just like even the they showed us what they thought was kind of like the coolest version of how it would work and i was like nope you just want to mute that person yeah i'll be curious who does get out of here buddy yeah yeah uh because it seemed pretty uh sanguine uh also Also, if you're on a run, I'm jogging and I'm kind of in the zone.

14:00Sarah Lane: Maybe I'm listening to a podcast or listening to music. It's like, I don't want my buddy being like, hey, Sarah, guess what your heart rate is? I don't care. Get away from me. TVOS 26 gets liquid glass, of course. You can use your iPhone as a karaoke mic. Multiple iPhones can be used as a karaoke mic. they gave a big trailer of a bunch of new originals not really much going on with tv os 26 mac os 26 carrying over a lot of the ios features of course getting liquid glass a phone app you can you can answer phone calls right now on a on a mac but you're going to get a fully featured phone app on the mac still need to use a phone connected to make the call but it's going to bring all those ios features over and i guess the other big things were Spotlight getting a bunch of ability to start actions, not just search for things.

14:53Like you could be in an app and say, how do I create this filter? They showed the Acorn image editor and then Spotlight would be able to take you to the appropriate part of the app for that. And then you can actually create more intelligent actions and shortcuts based on Apple intelligence. These two were probably two of the more compelling Apple intelligence in features kind of stuff. And of course, game app coming to Mac OS as well. Yeah.

15:19Sarah Lane: I mean, all hail Tahoe. That's our new Mac OS 26 Tahoe. The phone stuff did kind of confuse me because right now, if you call me on the phone, and my phone is not near my person, but it's on the same Wi-Fi network as the Mac that I'm using right now. It's like, I will get like a Tom Merritt calling and I can just talk to you. here. So I'm sort of like, how does that get better? I'm not totally sure. Now you can make a call, first of all. You've got a phone app. You can start a call from macOS. I could do it from FaceTime already. You could, but now it doesn't have to be a FaceTime call. You can call somebody with an Android.

16:01Yeah, it feels more phone-esque. And you get all your contacts and all of that stuff. Right, yeah.

16:07Sarah Lane: It's basically just marrying the phone on your Mac. Right. Vision OS 26 has widgets that you can hang on the wall and then remember where they are next time you put on your vision OS. You can make all photos spatial so you can look at them in the gallery. Personas are now more realistic. Also, two Vision Pro users can share the same movie, so they're watching them at the same time. There's some accessories. Logitech has a pen. And Sony PSVR 2 Sense controllers. If only I knew somebody who also had a Vision Pro, then we could do something like that. Sony PSVR 2 Sense controllers can be used with the Vision Pro.

16:45They have Adobe lets you edit and preview spatial video. GoPro, Insta 26, and Canon for playback support of 360 videos and stuff. You've got a Vision Pro. I do. You would be the person who would get excited. Did any of these excite you?

16:58Sarah Lane: Actually, yes. Actually, yes. So Eileen, who is my co-host on Apple Vision Show, where we talk about the Vision Pro, but really we talk about most other things Apple because that's most of the bulk of the news. But she'll sporadically ask me like, so what are you doing with the Pro? And I'm like, it's mostly just media consumption. It is fun for me to lay on the couch, head facing the ceiling and watch something instead of just kind of, I don't know, you can just, you can be in lots of different positions instead of like sitting on the couch or laying on the couch, watching the TV that's on that wall.

17:39Sarah Lane: Now that is not the reason that the vision pro exists. That is one reason that it exists, but it's like, I know, and I've been thinking about this recently. Hello, vision pro, wherever you are behind me. Oh, there you are. But I'm like, this is just, I'm not a developer. So I have to kind of wait for development tools to come out. But a lot of this stuff is pretty cool. And warrants getting back into it and seeing what the ecosystem is like. Because I know a lot of people have written it off as being too expensive and not some sort of performance boost in your life. So it doesn't warrant the cost.

18:19Sarah Lane: And if it doesn't warrant the cost, then that's your argument right there. But for those of us who can tinker around, there's more stuff. I have always thought of it as being an enterprise device still at this point for Apple, and yet they said hundreds of companies use Vision Pro, which is a very small number of companies using Vision Pro at this point in the game when it's a year and a half out. Finally, iPadOS 26 with multitasking. Definitely merging iPad more towards macOS with this windowing system that can resize apps into windows from a grab bar on the lower right. It basically can work like an iPad with one at a time or like a windowing system.

19:05It's kind of up to you. They're making the file system work like it does in macOS. So you see the files in the same kind of way. You can customize folders. that's a new mac os thing is that you can like change the icon on folders you can do that here preview coming to ipad os so you can edit and view pdfs and then the audio and video stuff better audio controls for your mics and local capture of video with various video conferencing apps of just your part of the video so that you can do podcast recording background tasks a big one for exporting video you can have it continue to export the video without having to keep that

19:45Sarah Lane: app in the foreground well and you've also got the menu bar now yeah so i mean talk about talk about kind of you know merging into the mac os territory which i think apple has been treading lightly on that for many years it's like you want the ipad to be a computer but mac does things differently because it's a Mac. And they probably got enough feedback of people being like, you know, if it acted more like a Mac, then that's what people want. So that's what it feels like Apple is doing, even though, yes, they are two different OSs. It does feel like more of a Mac OS sprinkling than ever. Yeah.

20:26If you want the touchscreen Mac, this is it now, basically. The other thing they said is that this will come to any iPad that can run iPad OS 26. Now, they didn't make it clear which iPads will run it, but they implied that most of the recent iPads can do this. And the iPad Pro had been, with the M chip, the only ones to do a lot of this multitasking stuff before now. So that's kind of a big deal at this point because you might have an iPad already that can do this stuff without having to buy a new one.

20:55Sarah Lane: Yeah. And the whole idea about like, and now you can change the look of your file. You can add emoji based on whatever you're working on. Maybe it's a horse if you're, I don't know, doing some sort of project that has to do with horse racing. I don't even know. But at first I was kind of chuckling like, okay, guys. But if you are a person who likes to be organized, this actually is really helpful, especially if you're working on lots of different things at once. And we will finish our review of WWDC by singing all the features. No, they did a really interesting thing with the real app story. Six out of five stars.

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25:53Sarah Lane: Microsoft and Asus announced the ROG Xbox Ally handheld gaming devices this weekend. The devices run Windows 11 and can access games from Xbox, Game Pass, Battle.net, and other leading PC game stores like Steam, Epic, Ubisoft, and more. While you could do all that on a previous Windows-powered handheld, the Xbox-branded version boots into an aggregated game library, which means you can use one interface to see all your games no matter what platform they come from. And Discord, Twitch, and game mods are also accessible directly as well. In addition to that integrated interface, there's also an Xbox button near the left stick that launches an Xbox Game Bar overlay.

26:35Sarah Lane: that gives you quick access to settings, metrics, and fast switching between game titles. The hardware itself has rounded grips, standard Xbox buttons, and micro texture to keep your thumbs from slipping. It also has a 7-inch, 1080p, 120Hz IPS screen. The base model specs include 16GB of RAM and 512GB of storage, while the higher-end LiX raises that up to 24GB of RAM and 1TB of storage. It also runs on the new AMD AI Z2 Extreme chip that was announced at CES earlier this year. No price yet, but expected release near the holidays. The full-screen Xbox experience will come to other devices as well, including the current ROG Ally and Ally X, as well as other Windows-based gaming handhelds.

27:25Sarah Lane: Interestingly, along with the announcement, Xbox Console Games began showing up in the Xbox app on all Windows machines, but you can't install them yet. Yeah, I think a lot of people thought we were going to see Microsoft make this themselves, the way you make like a Surface or something. So it's interesting not only to see them work with Asus on this, but also make it so that eventually it could come to whatever handheld you want. And it kind of sticks Steam and the others in the background. You know, it's not deplatforming them, but it makes them less important. Well, it just, yeah, a challenger has entered the building.

28:01That's right. New achievement. I think this is not going to get buried by the Apple news today, but it is interesting to see this big of an announcement come at the same time, especially when they're not shipping it until the holidays.

28:14Sarah Lane: Yeah, exactly. It does seem, this is a sort of a curious week, I guess, to launch something. But again, sounds like we don't know the price. coming near the holidays gives people some time to get excited about it yeah it's not like apple's going to announce a handheld gaming device right so it seems like a safe niche maybe they did tom who knows a security researcher called brute cat found a way to reveal the recovery phone number associated with any google account without you knowing that your phone number has been leaked They were able to bypass rate limiting and then try every permutation of a phone number until the right one worked.

28:55And it took about 20 minutes or so per phone number. TechCrunch tried this and they created a new account with a phone number that had never been associated to Google before. And this guy was able to discover it. The researchers alerted Google in April. That's when they talked to TechCrunch as well. And Google has since patched the vulnerability. So this is an example of the system working. that vulnerability is not there anymore. And Google gave BruteCat$5 ,000 bug bounty for finding it.

29:23Sarah Lane: I mean, I guess this would, I mean, we're talking about something that has been fixed, but if it hadn't been fixed, and I have several Google accounts where my phone number is associated as recovery, this could be potentially a pretty big deal. I don't know, you'd have to know my Google account, you'd have to want to get into it. You'd have to be able to have my phone number, but even then I also have my phone number. So it's, it's sort of unclear what, what's the worst case scenario here. Yeah. It's probably the worst case scenario is it makes it easier for somebody who would try to do a SIM swap and get a hold of your phone number account to then know which Google account they could try to get into since they now have control of your phone number account.

30:15There are other ways to find out this information. This is just plugging one of those ways and making it harder for people who might want to do this. So probably not a high risk for everybody, but good that they plugged it.

30:26Sarah Lane: Indeed. Qualcomm agreed to buy chip company Alpha Wave, which makes chips and connectivity tech for data centers and AI applications. Qualcomm is trying to diversify from being solely reliant on smartphone chips. Yeah, as ARM designs just become data center chips, kind of smart for Qualcomm to keep finding new ways to sell chips into data centers. Makes sense to me. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, the smartphone chip industry is in flux. Yeah, quite commodified at this point. We got some non-WWDC Apple news. Apple published a research paper from its scientists called The Illusion of Thinking, Understanding the Strength and Limitations of Reasoning Models via the Lens of Problem Complexity.

31:10The scientists presented complex puzzle games to models from OpenAI, Anthropic, and DeepSeek, and found that the reasoning ability of these models increased, as you would expect, to a point after which it declined. The authors concluded that the models, quote, face a complete accuracy collapse beyond certain complexities. So you can read the paper. There's like a kid's game where you move things around to try to create a tower, and the models all failed at that. It was just too complex, especially for things that it has never seen before. If it's been trained on something, it's one thing. If it has never encountered it, that's where the collapse came faster.

31:53Cognitive scientist Gary Marcus noted the paper seems to show that LLMs are no substitute for good, well-specified conventional algorithms, but that they're still useful. They're just not going to turn into AGI overnight. Marcus added, this does not mean that the field of neural networks is dead or that deep learning is dead. LLMs are just one form of deep learning and maybe others, especially those that play nicer with symbols, will eventually thrive.

32:20Sarah Lane: You know, when I read this this morning, I was like, now, where are the researchers from? you know i'm looking i'm like i'm oh within apple okay yeah uh so so that's one part of it this is the the the the lrm you know the uh the um large reasoning model this idea that you know it can reason like a human this is one of those like all right everybody let's take a step back these aren't useless but we cannot expect them to actually reason yeah someone on twitter and marcus mentioned this too, pointed out that they actually do reason like a human. They get stuff wrong. Things get too complex. We kind of want them to be better than a human, really.

33:05I thought that was an interesting way of looking at it as well. But I like what Gary Marcus's take on this was, which is, sure, this is a pretty solid study, but it doesn't mean the death of LLMs. It just means those sky high expectations for LLMs maybe need to be taken down a little. And we need to look at other models. The LLM isn't the last model of AI. Right.

33:28Sarah Lane: Warner Brothers Discovery is following Comcast's playbook announcing it will split the company into two starting sometime in the middle of next year. One group led by current CEO David Zasloff will continue to run the streaming business, film studios, Warner Brothers television, HBO, and all of those content libraries. What you might call the profitable parts. The second company, led by current CFO Gunnar Viedenfels, will contain global networks, including CNN, TNT Sports in the US, and also Discovery, what you might call the profitability challenge parts of the business. No word on what the two companies will be called or how brand deals will work between the two companies, but Comcast previously announced a similar plan for splitting out cable networks from studios and streaming to take effect by the end of this year.

34:22Sarah Lane: If your head is spinning, so is mine. Yeah, it seems to be the trend now. I'm curious if we're going to see this from the other studios as well to say cable networks are declining. Let's spin them out into a separate company so we can milk as much profit out of them while they exist without affecting the bottom line of the other parts of the company. It was interesting to me that nbc kept nbc news in the comcast part but spun msnbc out into its uh separate company that's coming later this year whereas warner put cnn in the non-profitable in the spin-out part uh and did not keep any of it as far as i can tell yeah that in the regular part that that uh I mean, if you would, if you're, if you're kind of putting CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, you know, and, and others kind of on par with each other, I would think those are, those, those are, those are big parts of the company.

35:22Sarah Lane: So yeah, it's, it's, it's a little curious, but Warner Brothers discovery has been all over the place for the entirety of, of, of their tenure together. So I, I don't know. I think they're, they're throwing spaghetti at the wall. Yeah. And I'm hoping they just name them Warner Brothers and Discovery. Wouldn't that be nice? Just split it up evenly. Yeah. Yeah. Profitable and non-profitable. Or just call them that. Warner Brothers profitable, Warner Brothers non-profitable. Yeah. All the other stuff. The New York Times reports that in December, YouTube changed its training materials for moderators to lean more on the side of public interest.

36:01Previously, the guidelines were, if you think the content has 25 % that violates content policies, take it down. Now, they're saying it has to be half or more of the content. That change applies to areas that include discussing or debating elections, political movements, race, gender, immigration, topics that would have a public interest. They're moving the bar to leave a few more of those up. YouTube says it has removed 22 % more content due to hateful and abusive content this year than last year.

36:34Sarah Lane: Well, for content creators, this is probably good news because I know a lot of content creators mumble and grumble about stuff getting taken down erroneously on YouTube all the time. So there's that. But at the same time, I wonder if, you know, if content is up there that is not, I don't know, I mean, half of the viewers, you know, don't have a reaction and it's bad content. Sure, there's a case to be made that YouTube is being lax here. But otherwise, it, I don't know, it probably, this probably makes more sense. It's, well, it's a debate. Less false positives, I guess. It's a debate between do you let the listener decide if something's true or do you let the platform decide if something's true?

37:24And the line is being moved. And it turns out YouTube moved the line in December. Just people didn't realize it until the New York Times dug up this moderation policy.

37:33Sarah Lane: Bloomberg reports that Alibaba, ByteDance, Tencent, and Moonshot all paused image recognition services on their AI apps while students take college entrance exams. The exams run from June 7th through June 10th, and students may not use devices during the tests. China's second largest automaker, Geely, has halted its plans for building more manufacturing plants, this according to Tech in Asia's industry experts. Its EV sales are strong. They rose 92 % on the air, profit grew 52 % year over year, but intense price competition in China's EV market has caused some to believe there is too much capacity for production, and apparently Geely is one of those.

38:12Sarah Lane: xRobotics announced a countertop robot called xPizzaCube that uses machine learning to apply sauce, cheese, and pepperoni to pizza dough. It can be modified for different ingredients or different styles of pizza, like Detroit, Deep Dish, etc. xRobotics says it can save about 80 % of the time it takes to prepare a pizza. xPizzaCube leases for$1 ,300 per month for three years and can make up to 100 pizzas per hour. The new model is quite a bit smaller and less expensive than its previous model because it focuses on helping cooks rather than replacing them. Yeah, the big deal in this TechCrunch story was that everybody has been trying to make a machine that can make a pizza entirely.

38:57And X Robotics was like, what if we just made it easier for the people in the kitchen to make the pizzas so they can make more pizzas and spend more time on other things like, you know, checking on tables or whatever.

39:07Sarah Lane: Yeah. I ordered pizza last night, Tom. Did you know? Don't think it was made by a robot, but it's my favorite pizza place in LA. And when you get it delivered, there's a sticker on the box that says, do not microwave me later. Oh, really? Yeah. They take it very seriously. Like, don't ruin our pizza, okay? You put it in the June oven like an adult. Yes, reheat, but don't microwave. Don't do it. Yeah, don't jellify our pizza. We had pizza this weekend. We were up in the Bay Area near San Jose for my niece's ballet, and we ordered pizza, and I was like, well, should we get a small? They're like, no, get a slice.

39:47I'm like, will that be enough? They're like, trust me, this place's slices are the size of small pizzas. Really? Yeah, kind of amazing, but cheaper than ordering a small. Hey, folks, we have a YouTube channel. If you didn't realize, youtube.com slash daily tech news show, where you can listen to this show or even watch our live show that Sarah and I do later in the day. You might want to check that out. And do us a favor, if you do, click on that like button. It'll help us. And if you haven't subscribed yet, do that too.

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