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2:56This is the Daily Tech News for Tuesday, August 18th, 2026. We tell you what you need to know, give you the important context of all of it, not in a weird AI sort of way, but hopefully we help you and everyone understand. Speaking of weird AI sorts of ways today, Today, unintentionally on Apple's part, we get our first look at Apple's upcoming camera-equipped AirPods. Unintentionally? Are you sure? Yeah, probably unintentionally. I'm Jason Howell. I'm pretty sure Tom Merrick. Let's start with what you need to know with a big story. Yeah, this is interesting. I'm super excited to dive into this.

3:36Apple's latest macOS Tahoe 26.7 release candidate. it. That was released yesterday and buried within were references to a handful of unreleased Apple products. A lot of them, actually, which we'll talk about. The one getting the most buzz, though, today is Apple's unannounced but rumored, I think we've talked about it before on this show, camera-equipped AirPods spotted for the first time in a macOS demo, like a video demo showing off visual intelligence. In the video, there's a man wearing AirPods, holding up a book, and then you hear a voiceover. With visual intelligence, your world becomes savable.

4:18See something you like? Just ask me to save it for later. Okay, he holds up a book. He looks at the book with the title. We can only imagine he saw something that he liked, and he wanted to save it for later with the camera and the AirPods. Mark Gurman had already shared on Bloomberg that the product, which in this case is codenamed B790, could launch in September. A video showing the product kind of makes that seem at least a little more likely or possible, at least. There were a slew of other products listed, and so many, in fact, that I'm not going to name them all, but some notable ones that I pulled out.

4:58apple's upcoming home hubs one with a base the other with a wall mount a possible security camera a tabletop robot whatever the heck that is uh new beats and airpods pro 4 headphones uh the iphone 18 series which we've talked a lot about uh new macbook pros new imax an oled ipad mini update a second generation vision pro possibly the cheaper more affordable one which i think we've also talked about at some point, and a new Apple TV remote. Again, there's more in there, but those were some of the highlights that I saw. Yeah, lots of unknown model numbers as well that they couldn't immediately identify or clearly link to an upcoming product that has been rumored.

5:42None of these products, of course, officially announced by Apple to date, except for the official looking video that was found inside of this. Yeah. You often find product numbers in here. And then there's enough rumors and leaks and Mark Gurman stories out there where you can triangulate what a lot of those are, which is most of what this is. That would not be a particularly unusual story at this point to be like, oh, there's a reference to that tabletop robot we've been hearing about. That's interesting. But it doesn't even mean it's coming out. It just means they're starting to lay the groundwork for it.

6:16That video, though, shouldn't be there. That's a mistake. That's a thing where it's like, oh, this is definitely a product that someone at Apple has shot a demo video for, uh, and it's going to be in your Mac OS at some point, but shouldn't be there yet. Uh, so that, that is really interesting to see that I'm not particularly shocked that they are that far down the road. I'm more shocked that they left the video in than, than it's like, Oh, we might actually get these, uh, in September. I'm certainly not shocked at most of this stuff. Like, yeah. Oh wow. The iPhone 18. I keep seeing the headline on Google news every day when we do the show like apple may release an iphone 18 in september i'm like yeah i think like they do it every september yeah wow what a shocking rumor uh but yeah it's it's still interesting to see the video and see how it works um there was another reference in there to like if your hair is covering uh the airpods you might need to move your hair out of the way so they've thought through that kind of thing and i think when people thought airpods with cameras they were thinking like big lenses hanging off off your ears so it's nice to see that that's yeah and i mean we don't get a front shot right the if you didn't watch the video version it's kind of like a side profile of the guy um and but you clearly see because he's got short hair you clearly see the airpod in the ear you don't actually see a camera you just see an airpod and him holding it up and identifying tied with the vo so you kind of have to infer a little bit But I am very curious, like what that camera does look like.

7:50You know, is it a tiny little pinhole thing? Is it obvious? You know, there's a lot of people that are looking at this and, you know, this just makes me think of kind of like this growing backlash around smart glasses and cameras embedded in glasses and how obvious how it's become something that people who aren't fans of AI can easily point to because it's pretty impossible to ignore the fact that, oh, there's a camera in those glasses. Will Apple face the same thing or will it be hidden and discreet? Will Apple do what Apple does often, which is kind of prove something where others have tried and maybe, you know, maybe they make it more palatable or, you know, and I don't know that I believe that.

8:30But, you know, what's going to happen? I mean, we are living in a time where people are eager to be upset about something. And so the idea of calling these cameras is probably going to inflame a lot of people once this becomes a shipping product. But they are not cameras in that sense. And yeah, you're right. We don't get a full look at them in this video, but we get enough of a look at them that it's like, that looks like just regular AirPods. They are going to be a small sensor that can see the world around it. And I guarantee, I give you my solemn guarantee, Jason, that when Apple announces these, there will be a lot of time spent informing people what those sensors actually see, what it looks like, where it's stored, and what it's not doing.

9:20And my guess is it's probably going to be an on-device model. Maybe, maybe not. If it's not, then they're going to talk a lot about the secure connection that makes sure it's only used for the processing and then it's discarded. But I think they'll probably have to do a lot to show like this is what it sees. And it's some kind of blurry, almost infrared looking something or other. But to the model on your iPhone, it can tell that that's the book you're looking at. But no, it is not spying on the world. It is not recording video. I think that'll be the key thing because that's what's getting people in trouble with the smart glasses these days is like you're recording video of me.

9:55There's a little subtle subtlety of difference there when you're talking about a camera that is used to identify like the title of a book and visual intelligence versus a camera that someone can record for 10 minutes uninterrupted. You know, that subtlety, that subtle difference will matter to some and won't matter to others. Right. Yeah. Because we have a wide spectrum of people that care deeply about these things. Maybe a good example, and I'll be curious how Apple handles it, but a good example is your Face ID camera does not, and Apple did a lot to show you what the Face ID camera actually sees, but it's not a camera.

10:35It's not a 50 megapixel camera. It's not taking video, right? It is a sensor. And I think a visual sensor, some people are like, oh, you're just trying to hide the fact that it's a camera. It's like, well, every camera is a visual sensor and every visual sensor is a camera. But when we say camera, we think video, right? We think video recording. And it's just, it's frustrating to me, Jason, that we are in a world where you can't just like put a visual sensor, a tiny visual sensor on AirPods without having to do a bunch of gymnastics to explain, no, this will not be used, you know, in the ways that you are worried about.

11:12But we are in a trough of technology trust. Yeah, that's a good one. My goodness, that should probably be the title. But yeah, I completely agree. It's a bummer because when I think, you know, we've been doing tech podcasting for a very long time at this point, Tom. And when I think of 10, 15, you know, 18, 20 years ago, features like this would garner a ton of excitement in all directions. It's like, oh my goodness, you can even do that? That's amazing. But that's not where we are. Wow. Yeah. And I wish that we had more of that. And it makes it hard on the benign features. Yes. Yeah. But what are you going to do?

11:52Yeah. But I will say, just to kind of cap my thought on this, I'm very impressed at the fact that it really did look like any normal AirPod from the side. It does not look any different. As far as I could tell, it's an AirPod, but it also has this new feature, seemingly. And I'm curious to hear more. We shouldn't lose sight of the fact that like, that's pretty impressive that something could be sitting in your ears and be able to identify objects around you. Yeah. Yeah. Well, DTNS is made possible by humans. Humans like you. Big thanks to all the humans who support the show. Tim Deputy is a human, as far as I know.

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15:59all right plenty more we need to know today let's get into the briefs yes fair phone announced a follow-up to the fair phone six the fair phone six plus oh it'll go on sale in the european union and the united states yay i only clap because i'm from the united states uh it's also somewhat significant that this is the first time the fair phone has sold the phone in the US itself. You've been able to get it through third parties, but not directly from Fairphone. So now you'll be able to just go on Amazon and order the Fairphone through the Fairphone store there. Or if you're like, I hate Amazon, go to the Fairphone site and order it directly from Fairphone.

16:37Now it is certified for T-Mobile and AT &T. So even though it's unlocked, you should be able to use it with those services right out of the box or any services that use their networks. However, it may or may not work if you have Verizon because it's not whitelisted with Verizon. I did not dig into why it is not whitelisted with Verizon, but you have to get certified on the carriers. And if you don't get certified on the carriers, they may look at your IMEI and go, we don't recognize that and kick it off. It contains 12 replaceable parts, including the battery, the battery and the battery. Those are the three most important replaceable parts for most people.

17:12You can also replace the display. You can replace the cameras. You can replace the cover and you just need a Torx T5 screwdriver to do it. Also worth noting, this model increases the RAM from eight gigabytes in the six to 12 gigabytes in the six plus, which is kind of not a thing we see in this RAM deprived world in which we live. You also get Android 16 out of the box and a promise of six operating system upgrades with software support and spare parts available until at least 2033. The Fairphone,$6 plus$649 and available right now. Love it. I love that a phone like this exists. And some people bag on it a little bit because some of the internals aren't necessarily top, top tier.

17:58You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. It's a mid-range phone. Yeah, it's a mid-range internal. The Snapdragon SoC, what is it? The 7S Gen 4. 12 gigs of RAM, though. You mentioned that. Like, just so interesting that in this moment where we're so used to Ramageddon just marking its big footprint on the top of all these smartphones and disappointment there. Here, at least you get an increase. So, you know, I applaud that they were able to do that on a, you know, what's kind of a niche phone. And the repairable part is putting the rubber to the road. Like, a lot of people have said, not only why can't I replace my battery, but what about the rest of the stuff?

18:37And the modular phone, how long have we been chasing the dream of the modular phone? And Fairphone seems to have created a workable platform for that. So it's very cool. Yep. Definitely a lot of excitement around that kind of like environmental impact. And they're also committing to when they sell one of these phones, they kind of balance out the e-waste so that it's neutral. So they basically said it collects and reuses or recycles an equivalent weight of electronic waste when they sell a single phone. Which is better than just buying carbon credits. Like that's actually doing something. So that's kind of cool.

19:17Yeah. So if these topics – if you care about these topics, I guess my thought on this is you might be paying more for less from a specs perspective, but you're paying – what you're really paying for is that kind of environmental kind of attention. And repairability. And repairability, absolutely. So sustainability and repairability. That's the word I was looking for. Yeah. So again, love that it exists. Excellent stuff. It's a fair phone. It's fair. That's a fair point. Thanks. Yeah. I'm trying not to phone it in. YouTube is about to change how it counts public views across all video formats. It starts on August 24th, so in a couple of days, sometime next week, I guess.

20:04A view, when this change happens, will officially register the second a video starts playing. So basically like the first frame. If you see the first frame and it's playing, then that will count as a view. And this actually matches how view counts are done on YouTube Shorts. YouTube pretty recently made a change that they were counted there, as well as other platforms, which kind of were the model of this. TikTok and Instagram do it this way as well. Now, YouTube says this is meant to remove confusion that's caused by these metrics that are tied to specific formats and being different over here than over there.

20:40So it's kind of putting everything on the same level, essentially. And they're arguing that this gives creators a clearer measure of their actual reach. Now, YouTube also says that the creator earnings and YouTube partner program eligibility will not be impacted by the change. earnings will still rely on engaged watch hours and engaged shorts views. That's basically the metric for viewers who keep watching throughout a video. So you've got on one hand, you've got the view, which is, oh, you watched the first frame or more. On the second hand, you've got engaged views, which is probably the more meaningful metric because it says this person hit it, it started playing, and they stuck with it.

21:19Those earnings are going to remain tied to that engagement, won't be impacted by the more inflated view counts, which are inevitably going to happen as a result of this change. Yeah. I mean, if you only watch one second of a video now it counts, it didn't before. So, and that shows up in the public view count and that's a popularity contest, not a meaningful metric. So I'm not sure how much I really care. Although popularity contests are important. So you can game that system easier now, right. And make it look like your videos more popular than it was. Uh, I can tell you in the world of K-pop music videos, this is going to be a big story because everybody's always bragging about how their favorite group has so many million streams.

21:59And then suddenly tomorrow, there's going to be a different number there. And some videos are going to suddenly be more popular and some will be not as popular relatively. It's going to be a whole thing. So in that world of popularity contest, this is going to be very significant. I think it's also significant that YouTube gave in. I think YouTube always felt like we're setting the standard on video metrics. So we're going to stick with engaged views. And they're finally going like, man, TikTok and Instagram are not going to change. We need to give into the pressure. Yeah, that's a really good point.

22:31I am curious. Like, yes, I totally agree. This is more of a vanity metric than anything. And on YouTube, like subscribes have kind of also kind of fallen into that camp, right? Like it seems like so many, I can only speak on my personal channel. and I'm sure it's like this for a lot of other people, my subscriber count is not massive. It's pretty low. But my view count on my videos is very high. I get a lot of drive-by views and that sort of stuff. But the algorithm is the thing that drives views. Exactly, exactly. The algorithm. What I wonder about this is when it comes to making money for creators from deals with sponsors and stuff, are the sponsors going to begin caring more about the higher versus the lower versus the - engaged and you know i don't know but everybody seemingly will get the boost so maybe the sponsor can say i want to see your engaged metric that's what i'm paying for because that still exists watch hours still exist all of that still exists yeah uh it's just not the thing that shows up under the video but it could change who the sponsors reach out to because they can only see that one until they you know have a relationship with somebody in most cases anyway yeah yeah and And while that change happens, there's probably going to be some like an adjustment period because now suddenly what we knew as normal is not normal anymore, at least when it comes to view counts.

23:53And so everybody's going to have to kind of adjust like what the new normal is and then work towards that. Call this thing normal. All right. Big trial happening in Oakland, California today. opening statements beginning Tuesday in the lawsuit brought by 29 state attorneys general, led by four particular state attorneys general. So you'll often see that it's four states being referred to, but there's 29 total states that have joined this lawsuit against Meta. The state alleges, the states allege, I guess I should say, that Meta designed Facebook and Instagram intentionally to drive compulsive use by children and try to hide known risks of using their products.

24:38And they allege that those decisions violate the Children's Online Privacy Protection Act, as well as some consumer protection statutes. The states name features like infinite scroll, autoplay, ephemeral content, beauty filters. That's one that they're going to say as harmful. Recommendation algorithms as potential violations. These are things that made children use them to their detriment. BBC notes that getting rid of things like like counts, banning multiple accounts for teens, or requiring parental verification might also be something that the attorneys general are going to go after. This looks to be kind of a bigger version of a recent New Mexico trial.

25:19We talked about that one previously. That's the one where Meta was deemed a public nuisance and found in violation of the state's unfair practices act that judge ordered meta to pay a total of 942 million dollars 567 million of that is supposed to go into an abatement fund that would give money for programs to help counter the harms to to educate children and prevention and that sort of thing that new mexico judge did not force a lot of design changes uh he He asked for improved age detection and reporting tools, but not for ending infinite scroll because the judge said, well, that's kind of a speech issue and a competitive issue.

25:59It's not like their competitors will stop doing it, so I'm not going to order them to stop doing it. There was also a case in Los Angeles in March where Meta was found to have been negligent in not warning users of dangers from using its platform. So the attorneys are going to point to that and say this judge found that there was a danger and Meta didn't do enough to warn it. the next web says if you're watching this trial watch whether judge gonzalez rogers treats these design elements like infinite scroll and all of that as conduct or speech if she treats it as conduct in other words this isn't a speech decision new mexico judge treated it as speech if she says no no no this is a thing you're doing in building your product not an expression of your viewpoint, then Meta would not be able to use safe harbor as a shield.

26:46Meta is going to argue, well, infinite scroll is just our way of expressing here's what's available on the platform, right? And that's speech. So that is protected. You can't rule against us on speech. Also, you should realize this is an advisory jury trial. So there is a jury, but that jury will only tell the judge what it thinks. The judge gets to decide what will happen. This is something that's more common in civil trials like this. If you want to get a jury because there's not a right to a trial by jury in a civil trial. But U.S. District Judge Yvonne Gonzalez Rogers is going to be the one who decides liability and any penalties and remedies.

27:24But she is looking to the jury to advise her on what they think. Theoretically, if Meta were charged the maximum statutory amount for every alleged violation, it would total$1.4 trillion. That's not a number the states are seeking. But Meta has been throwing it out there a bunch. Because it's such a big number, they hope it might undermine the credibility of the prosecution. California lawyer Megan O 'Neill, however, told the court, the plaintiffs expect the penalty to be around$193 billion. So you may see people say$200 billion, somewhere around that. That would still be huge. And the states are also seeking nationwide injunctive relief.

28:00For example, they would like the judge to order Meta to delete all personal data collected from children younger than 13, as well as the algorithms and models that were trained. Wow. Now, that's, again, something the attorneys general are requesting as a remedy. That doesn't mean we're anywhere close to that becoming a remedy. And even if Judge Gonzalez Rogers orders that, Meta is going to appeal this. So this is going to drag out for years. But this is a big trial. You're going to see Zuckerberg on the stand. You're going to see Mosseri on the stand. And this is going to set the tone for literally hundreds of other trials that are going in this model.

28:38And everybody's calling it the big tobacco moment because even though there's a difference between the harms of smoking and the harms of social media, especially in how much we actually know about them, it is fitting that model, right, of like big corporations says, no, our thing is perfectly safe. Yeah, saw a lot of that for sure. Yeah, it's just interesting to me how long something like Infinite Scroll has been around. I think it is part of, I was just kind of trying to figure out when did that come onto the scene. So we're in 2006. We've had it for two decades, let's say, in some way, shape, or form.

29:15It was Web 2.0 kind of thing, wasn't it? Yeah, and I mean, it's become such a user experience tool that we're just so accustomed to. Yet at the same time, I know for myself how many times I've sat down to check one thing and that mechanism is truly – it sucks you in. It works on a lot of people. It works on a lot of people. I won't say addictive because I don't think they're the same thing, but it's a pretty captivating experience, let's say. And whether they're able to turn that into harm to children the way you've mentioned, I mean, yeah, I'm super, as everybody probably is, I'm very curious to see where this leads and what kind of impact that has on things like design choice in these apps.

30:02Judge Gonzalez Rogers has presided over a lot of technology trials. So I have full faith and confidence that she understands the issue. Yeah, that's good. Where it gets tricky, though, is what is the standard of showing harm? Because I'm not saying social media isn't harmful, but I will continue to say we don't have a lot of research to prove it. And I think that's important because it's one thing to go like, I'm pretty sure this can be harmful. It's another thing to say it's harmful in exactly this way. And so you need to do this to avoid the harm. And I've said this a million times, but if you don't know how it's harmful, you may put in a procedure to prevent the harm that doesn't work.

30:46And it makes everybody think you've solved the problem when you haven't, and it continues to be harmful just in a different way than you thought. So I am curious what evidence the attorneys general will bring to show that harm. What kind of research is out there? Maybe we'll see some things we weren't aware had been done, but there isn't a lot of really solid, like, we can show this causes cancer like you did with tobacco. There's a lot of anecdotal evidence, and there's a lot of counter evidence that Meta is going to be able to bring in and say, well, this shows that the harm is exaggerated. This Meta study shows that, well, there are also benefits that counteract the harms, and the harms are only for these kinds of children and not these kinds of children.

31:29So that's going to be interesting how the judge reacts to that. Yeah, yeah. Probably pretty easy to be too reactive, to your point. And then suddenly you've made a change to something that doesn't actually address the problem, but it reduces anonymity in some other major way. Or it keeps kids from connecting with communities that they rely on in order to stay happy and feel safe and everything. So it has a lot of potential impact. well folks uh if you have thoughts on this uh we have lots of great conversations in fact there's a really good conversation going on in our linux channel uh about uh i think it's vsh uh that they're talking about there's also stuff always going on in our ai channel as you might imagine you can join those conversations by joining our patreon just link your discord to your Patreon account, patreon.com slash DTNS.

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34:43We'll see if the teens use it. some of them will uh android authority reports that code indicates evidence of a quick insert feature coming to google's gboard to keyboard uh with sources for that quick insert including your voice emojis stickers clipboard history images contacts and writing tools i just gotta say real quick connected to this and gboard is uh and on the pixel 11 series is rambler oh my goodness answer to my prayers i absolutely love it absolutely love it favorite feature on the new phones. And we'll talk about it a lot tonight on Android Faithful. Google rolling out Android 17 QPR 1 beta 9 for Pixel.

35:23This is ahead of a final release coming up here next month in September. It's your last beta, Pixel 6, folks. The U.S. Congress is dealing with a problem that has been studied in corporate settings a lot. Politico reporting that several staffers had interviewed complained that the amount of draft legislation being created is rising as staffers use large language models, but the number of mistakes and fixes needed is causing delays at the House Office of Legislative Council, which provides the quality control to make sure the bills don't have mistakes. The number of bills proposed has risen in the U.S.

35:54House 70 % over the last decade. That sounds familiar, doesn't it? It does. It does. Xiaomi posted its third quarter of declining profits with net income down 43%, revenue down 6.1%, the rising cost of parts, as we've talked about plenty of times, as well as declining demand for phones caused much of the fall while Xiaomi's EV sales actually rose. They just didn't rise enough. Not yet. If you saw a headline out there saying the U.S. Federal Trade Commission was investigating Epic and you're like, whoa, did Apple make the FTC? It's not that epic. It might help you to know that the FTC is investigating Epic Systems, the largest electronic health record vendor in the U.S., not Epic Games, the largest Fortnite vendor in the U.S.

36:44Wow, it's a lot more boring, to be honest. Not as fun. But important. Yeah, but important, yes. Weatherspoons has made a rule that customers in its pubs cannot play music out loud or take calls on speaker phones, Sam Smith's pubs, band phone, or tech use of any kind unless you're using it to pay. Yeah. We met at a Weatherspoons pub in London when we did our DTNS meetup. I imagine this is a rule that is meant to prevent you from getting punched in the face. You're not allowed to play the music so loud that you annoy someone into coming over and assaulting you. Thanks to Motang for noting this one on our subreddit.

37:26CGTrader, a marketplace for 3D assets used by video game developers, says that one in six models on its service comes from a generator, some kind of LLM-based thing, rather than being human-made. But only one out of every$90 in revenue comes from one of those generated models. So they're getting flooded with the slop, but no one's buying it. So slop has lower value, essentially, as many people believe. We end every episode of DTNS with some shared perspectives. Today, John has thoughts on the TimeShifter app to fight jet lag that Dr. Nicky told us about. Yeah, John writes, I actually used TimeShifter in June while traveling to and from the Philippines.

38:11It's a great app that lines up with how I've been managing jet lag for decades. The problem is those airlines always stick to the origin time zone when managing light levels and meals gets in the way of adjusting to my destination. With a 12-hour time difference, it's no small feat without melatonin and edibles. At one point during my flight back from Manila to JFK, I could tell it was light outside. Since it was 2 p.m. at my destination, I decided to open the shade. Woman in an adjacent row asked me to close it. I told her, I need to adjust to our destination time zone. She said she was trying to sleep, trying hard not to be a jerk about it.

38:47I had to remind her that the crew handed everybody sleep masks upon boarding. Oh, boy. When one of the crew members asked me to close the shade, I explained what I was trying to do. Even showed her the time shifter app, and she let me alone after that. Thanks, time shifter. All you needed to do was show her the time shifter app. Yeah, that's a challenge, right? Because everybody probably has a different perspective on what they do. I'm tired. I want to sleep. I felt bad trying to get light on my flight when time shifter was telling me when I knew a bunch of other people around me were trying to sleep.

39:19So, yeah, it's a tricky thing, but not everybody's on board. Well, even though they're on board. Well, they're on board. Just not on board with your time shifter. Right. Folks, share your insights into any of the stories we talk about it. We love hearing your expertise. Feedback at DailyTechNewsShow.com. Indeed. Thank you again to John for contributing to today's show. Thanks to you for being along for Daily Tech News Show. You can keep this show to float by becoming a patron, and it's very easy. Patreon.com slash DTNS. We'll see you tomorrow.

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