CES 2026 - WiFi 8, Holographic Desktop Friends and Hands On with the Samsung TriFold - DTNS 5180

0:07This is the Daily Tech News for Tuesday, January 7th, 2026. We tell you what you need to know.

0:17There is no time at CES. Wednesday, January 7th, 2026. We tell you what you need to know, including what day it is. Give you the important context and try to help each other understand. Today we're live from CES 2026 in Las Vegas, Nevada, surrounded by robots and the most beautiful, big, giant TVs you've ever seen. Yes, I may be Tom Merritt. I'm Rob Dunwood. I'm pretty sure I'm Shannon Morse. I know that back at headquarters in Los Angeles, I'm Sarah Lane. And I'm remote and Roger Chang. It is day two of the CES show floor being open. It is day four of the media coverage and the news keeps rolling out.

0:57However, we do have a few non-CES items starting to creep back into the news. However, we will start with the big story. Was Rob right about Lenovo?

1:10Yesterday Rob told you all about a lot of Lenovo announcements that somehow leaked onto the web ahead of time. And last night Lenovo had its big event at the Sphere in Las Vegas confirming all those announcements for the most part. But there were a few more things we didn't know about. So Rob, break it down for us. So yeah, so I wasn't at the Sphere, but I had a great view from my hotel room. You know, we were taking a look at it, but we did get most of the stuff right yesterday. What we didn't get was all the stuff from Motorola. So Motorola has extended its Moto Things lineup with a new tracker, new earbuds, a smartwatch, and a stylus.

1:42The new Moto Tag 2 offers several key improvements over the predecessor, including a significant boost in battery life to over 500 days and enhanced IP68 durability up from IP67. It utilizes Google's FineHub network and features UWB sensing for precise location. The second-generation tracker maintains the useful button feature for triggering a phone beep or a remote camera shutter. While the specific launch date and price are still pending, the Moto Tag 2 is confirmed for an upcoming release in North America. We also have the Moto Buds Loop. They are the company's first open-ear wireless earbuds designed to cuff the ear, allowing users to hear their surroundings.

2:20The earbuds feature 12-millimeter drivers, sound-by-Bose technology for spatial audio and clarity, dual microphones with AI for noise reduction, and are available in Trekking Green or French Oak with crystals from Swarovski. They offer eight hours of battery life with an extra 37 hours of battery from the charging case, and are water repellent and use Motorola Smart Connect for easy device swapping. Pricing and release dates are currently unannounced. So we've got a new Moto Watch. This is a 47-millimeter smartwatch with stainless steel crown aluminum frame Gorilla Glass 3 IP68 resistance, featuring a standard Pantone volcanic ash silicone band and supporting other 22-millimeter bands.

3:03In partnership with Polar, it offers comprehensive fitness tracking, including activity goals, calorie logging, sleep monitoring, and dual-frequency GPS, and boasts a built-in speaker and microphone. The watch has a long battery life up to 13 days normally or seven days with always on display and offers extensive customization. And then Motorola built a pen. It's called the Moto Pen Ultra. It comes with a charging case and supports things like palm rejection, tilt sensitivity for more accurate strokes. Moto Pen Ultra also can be used with Google Circle to search. And new AI-powered software features like Sketch to Image, which converts handwritten sketches into detailed images.

3:40Ooh, that's a crowd pleaser, bringing back a pen. Samsung got rid of their pin support on the new Fold, so this is kind of a cool thing. Now, on to the phones. Motorola released a few new phones. They're entering the book-style foldable market with the Razer Fold, which is anticipated for a summer launch. The device features a 6.6-inch external and an 8.1-inch internal 2K OLED displays. Supports the Moto Pen Ultra, which we just talked about. It has triple cameras, 15-megapixel camera system, including Sony Lydia primary sensors. It will also incorporate a new AI software feature, such as the cross-device Cura experience, powered by Microsoft and Perplexity technology.

4:24Pricing and specific details remain unconfirmed. And Motorola is getting back into the signature phone, just not necessarily here in the United States. As Motorola has announced the Motorola Signature, an ultra premium non-folding smartphone designed to compete with the iPhone 17 Pro Max and the Pixel 10 Pro XL. The device is notably thin, only.28 inches thick, and durable, featuring IP68, IP69, and MILST810H certifications. Key specifications include a 6.8-inch 165-hertz AMOLED display with 6200-nit peak brightness, a Qualcomm Snapdragon H Gen 5 processor, up to 16 gigs RAM, and a 5200 milliamp battery with 90 watts wired fast charging.

5:09Once again, this is not coming here to the United States, and probably because this is a premium phone, but it's not a premium, premium phone. This is only using the Snapdragon 8 Gen 5 processor. That's a very, very capable processor. It is at the top of the list. It's just not at the tippy top of the list. And this is right now just slated for Europe and other places that are not the U.S. There were a few concepts that got announced. Lenovo introduced AI glasses concepts. A lightweight 45-gram smart glasses design with an 8-hour battery life. Glasses which also look like standard eyeglasses and wirelessly connect to the smart device, aim to unify the user's workflow using Lenovo and Motorola's Cura AI platform.

5:55The platform enables features like sub-millisecond live translation, intelligent image recognition, and a catch-me-up notification recap. The hardware also supports touch and voice controls, includes teleprompter software, and features integrated speakers. And finally, Motorola also unveiled a new wearable concept. The Maxwell is a cool AI-powered wearable device that you can rock as a pendant or wear it just with a magnet on your shirt. It's a pin or a brooch. Yeah, so you got both. We kind of saw these things last year. They didn't do well. But, hey, let's see if it comes back around this year and it works.

6:28It's got a mic and a camera for taking input for a few different ways. And it does all the usual stuff, hands-free photos, answering questions naturally, jotting down your meeting notes, all that kind of good stuff. So it's kind of like a cross between the AI pin and maybe a plod note. and it's considerably smaller so it doesn't look like this big calculator that you've got pinned to your as a brooch to yourself It's also a concept It looks cute, I guess but for me, wearables in terms of AI wearables that you put around your neck, I just feel like it's not something that I would use necessarily My theory is that it is concept because they probably started working on it before they knew how hard it's going to fail.

7:12That might be the case. We already started waking this. Keep the concept. It's smaller. Let's just put it out and see what comes from it. I thought it was interesting that Lenovo's AI glasses concept also has that teleprompter software that we heard about yesterday. Yeah. All of us podcasters are... There's going to be like this glasses thing that everybody has the same look. Everyone's wearing glasses. Yeah, but we're looking They know the way to a content creator's heart. From a creator, that's actually kind of cool because you're locked into a studio if you're using a teleprompter. Oh, yeah.

7:43But you can be out in the world wearing glasses and still sound professional while you're doing your reads. You'll know it's come around when you see a field reporter on CNN or something where just everyone starts wearing glasses. They all have glasses. Just like they all start wearing AirPods. We got a sneak peek at a lot of what Lenovo announced yesterday, and then the rest of it was mostly Motorola that we were talking about. Shannon, you got your hands on some of this stuff. I did, yeah. So I got my hands on both of the new concept rollables from Lenovo, as well as several of their new laptops, and even the new Motorola Razr Fold.

8:21And it was really interesting, especially with the Motorola Razr Fold, to see how they are developing it, like what the aspect ratio is going to be, how big it is, how heavy it is. It is a little bit heavier than the Fold 7, which is extremely thin at this point. That's my favorite foldable phone. But I think that it's going to be a really good contender. And I did bring up with the Motorola team how excited I was to see a foldable from them because they're really known for bringing us really nicely priced folding phones over the past couple of years. So I'm excited to see how much this one is going to be priced at.

8:58We don't know that exactly yet, but with their operating system and with the customizable abilities that you have with their foldables, I'm really looking forward to it. Yeah, I'd have to imagine, just to guess, that it would be a little less than what Samsung is doing. Yeah, Motorola seems to come in. That's my expectation. They're premium, but they come in a little less than what the iPhone and what Samsung is doing. So my gut tells me this might be a relatively affordable foldable from what we are used to seeing right now. Yeah, absolutely. So I'm very excited about that one. The rollables from Lenovo, those concepts were so cool.

9:34I especially loved the Legion rollable. how it scales out to a different aspect ratio. I'm like a widescreen user all the time anyway, so I really hope that one actually comes into play. Fantastic. Well, everybody, DTNS is made possible by you, watching or listening right now or later. Thanks to Mike Akins, Norm Fazekas, and Chris Allen.

10:00There is more we need to know today. Let's get to what I've finally returned to being something you might call briefs. So last year, Dream, that's Dream with an E at the end, showed off a robot vacuum prototype with a mechanical arm, but it wasn't a real product yet. You didn't actually see it working as a full unit. Now it is. Dream unveiled the Cyber 10 Ultra. It's a robot vacuum mop hybrid with an extendable mechanical arm that can pick up objects weighing up to about a pound, including toys and household clutter. The arm can also use dedicated cleaning attachments from the base station to reach tight or elevated areas like a traditional vacuum would with a hose tool.

10:38It can climb small steps up to 6 centimeters, so they have to be pretty small. Dream is aiming for an August release. Pricing expected around$2 ,100. This would be a pricey vacuum, but if it works, it might be worth it. Another model, the X60 Max Ultra,$1 ,700. Still pricey, but down a bit. It can roll over steps up to 8.8 centimeters. The company also showed off the prototype Cyber X with motorized treaded legs that can climb stairs up to 25 centimeters. That's about 9.8 inches tall. Handle slopes up to 42 degrees. Can navigate curved staircases, if you've got a fancy staircase at home, and clear a whole flight in about 27 seconds.

11:18That's fast. The cleaning system docks inside the stair climbing chassis. It also has a built-in water tank for mopping. Roborock, another company we were looking forward to seeing what they were about to announce, announced three new vacuums. We've got the Soros 20 Sonic. This is like the big guy. With an extendable sonic mopping pad that physically slides out to clean edges and corners, flush against baseboards, that sort of thing. Something that would be hard to do otherwise. It delivers 35 ,000 pascals of suction, supports automatic height adjustments, and includes a deep carpet cleaning mode.

11:51It can cross thresholds up to about 3.3 inches with a new climbing arm, but it can't climb full stairs. We don't have a price on this yet. We also don't have a price on the Saros 20. This is one step down from the Sonic, but it shares the same 35 ,000 pascals of suction, brush system, threshold climbing hardware as the Sonic version. But it uses dual spinning mopping pads instead of the extendable Sonic mop. Now, I don't exactly know which one's better than the other. apparently the extendable sonic mop is because it's more expensive but your mileage may vary then we have a product that is going to be available very soon that's the cuivo curve to flow this is also from roborock it is 20 000 pascals of suction a roller style mop that spins at 220 rpm and then self-rinses during cleaning the roller extends outward to reach edges furniture your legs and is designed to handle large liquid spills more efficiently.

12:49Parents out there, you heard me. Promotional prices start on January 19th. So you can get it for$850. It's going to go up to$1 ,000 after February 1st. So if you want this, that's your window. So we're getting more and more vacuum features in the world in which Roomba has declared bankruptcy. there are plenty to pick up the slack for them I've seen I've heard a lot of people very skeptical about the arms being able to have enough counterbalance to be able to do anything useful but up to a pound you know picking some stuff getting out of the way clearing up the kids toys like that's possible can I pick up my cat?

13:33is your cat more than a pound? the kitten is very small so you can pick up the kitten part of me is like Like, okay, I get it. Maybe your vacuum is on a schedule. Or maybe you're already out of the house and you go, oh, I wanted to start the vacuum. So you do it remotely through the app. But for the most part, how much stuff is all over the floor when you decide to vacuum your house? A lot in my house. Really? I mean, if you have kids, I'm stepping on it. There's a lot of cat toys on my floor. I guess I'm just so used to picking up everything before I start manually vacuuming. I mean, I do that anyway, but I pick up a lot of, you know, my kids drop pencils.

14:15They drop sheets of paper. Yeah, just little things you don't even see. They have wrappers of, like, candy and stuff. They just leave it. It's like, you know, I'm both kind of mildly interested in this product, but I also know I really need to drill into my kids' heads. You need to pick up your crap when you're done playing. The robot has a pincher on them, Roger. Oh, are you saying I could use that as sort of a motivator? I'm not saying anything. Oh, if you don't clean up, the pincher will come after you. Yeah. This is a non-CES story here. Amazon has been beta testing an agentic program called Buy For Me.

14:54I'm curious what you all think of this. The promise on where Amazon is coming from here is that it shops for you on the site off Amazon. So in other words, it'll expand what you can buy. They want to keep you on the Amazon platform but say, hey, if this company doesn't work with Amazon, we can still send our agent out to buy for you, just like OpenAI or Perplexity or anybody else could do it. Orders to the sites include an email address that's not you. They end in at buy4me.amazon. There's a similar program called Buy Direct that doesn't use the agentic capabilities. It just speeds up how you check out on a third-party site.

15:30Listings for the items are created by Amazon from the third-party company's website. but because they're not Amazon partners, they're just telling you what's there so the agent can go buy it. And Amazon does its best to keep the information updated and accurate. However, the listings look pretty similar to other items that are available through Amazon. And some merchants are not happy about that. They are getting orders for items that are out of stock. They are getting incorrect information in the listing. One example was a kid's toy that was listed on Amazon with a picture of a pair of pants.

16:04and the company doesn't even sell pants at all. There's also some merchants that are like, we don't want to be associated with Amazon's name. We don't want to be associated with that brand. You can ask Amazon not to list your site's items by emailing branddirectatamazon.com. Lots of merchants have done that and it works. There's no problem. But a lot of merchants are like, why should I have to do that? Whereas Amazon's saying, hey, we're just helping people go buy things on your site. We're sending customers your way. Yeah, I actually have a friend who sells like hacker tools. Not Hack5, but I have a...

16:39Not Darren. No, not Darren. I have a friend who has a Shopify store and some of his items were linked through Amazon and he had a very serious problem with that. He's one of the people, one of those merchants who has a real big problem with having any kind of identification relevant to Amazon. And also, I don't think his products are supposed to be sold on Amazon. So it kind of goes against like... But they're not technically being sold on Amazon. You can see them listed. It's like a search engine. It's acting like a search engine. But that's the problem. People think that it is on Amazon. It's like a search engine, but it looks like Amazon.

17:17I think that's the disconnect. It feels to me like Taco Bell and Demolition Man. All things... Amazon wants to be... If you buy it, you buy it from us. Yeah. And I don't know that I care for that. Sometimes I want to go to the vendor's website. I would get confused if I'm looking at Amazon and I see this thing that's on Amazon and it's not from Amazon. Why would I be saying something? Well, there's tons of things that are not from Amazon on Amazon right now. But Fulfilled Buy is a little different. This is like we're going to use an agent to go out to someone's website, scrape that content there, and then give you the option to buy it through Amazon from that other site.

17:53That's Google Shopping. But do you get credits if you use your Amazon card for these sorts of purchases? Yes, you would, but you would if you went directly to their site yourself, right? I think what's interesting is more of what's implied with this move is that Amazon does feel threatened by the arrival of agentic agents that can do that for you. That they feel like, oh, this might seriously erode our market position. because before we were just sort of the one-stop shop for everything, right? Oh, you need a garden host? Come to us. You need ready-to-eat breakfast sandwiches? Come to us. The power of these agents may not be your 100%.

18:40I mean, you say threatened, I say smart. They're like, oh, we should do it too, right? That makes perfect sense. But they definitely see themselves in a position where we can't just sort of suppose, was like, oh, we're here and they're not. So we don't have to worry. I don't know. I think it's just very interesting just to move. This doesn't feel like something that I would use. But I guess if you spend a lot of time shopping within Amazon, you know how it looks, you know how it works, then maybe it's just a matter of convenience for a lot of people. That was the point, Tom. Do you know you're using it if you're using it?

19:19Yeah. And maybe that's where my consternation comes in because I know if I'm using an agent that I have set up to go do this for me, but if I just go to Amazon and it just kind of does it? If you're paying attention, you'll know. But if you're paying attention, it's doing a lot of work there, yeah. Well, speaking of paying attention, Roblox is globally expanding the age check for nine-year-old children. It began testing in November. So children need to submit a video selfie for age verification if they want to use the chat feature. You can also submit a government ID if you have one. Age verification will be used to limit communications between adults and minors who don't know each other in the real world.

19:57Each user will be put in one of six age groups, including younger than nine, older than 21, and then we've got four other groups in between. I mean, Roblox says it's going to delete these video selfies, and I believe they will. But I don't know. I don't love the idea. How secure are they while they are on Roblox's servers? We don't know. I mean, this is the tradeoff when you want to do all this age verification. you've got to give information of some sort in order to verify an age yeah i'm not a fan of nine-year-olds sending videos to a game that they want to play because they're going to send videos and the parents aren't going to in some cases even be aware that they're doing it yeah you know to block that so i don't mind that you can't do this if you don't if you're not over a certain age but allowing them to i don't know this is even easy i just i would feel more comfortable is like if If you're under a certain age, you have got to get your parents to do the verification for you.

20:52And in a lot of cases, that is true. But it's above nine that it's not. I mean, my wife had to do this, something similar where she had to verify for my kids. Oh, for your kids. And it's, you know, it's Roblox is one of those platforms that at least the kids in my age, the age bracket that my kids are in. It's very popular for those kids. It's very popular. And it is sort of like kind of the mall situation it was for us. Like that's where you go. That's where everybody hangs out. When you aren't at school or you're on vacation, that's where you meet your friends. Yeah. Intel has another chip platform it didn't tell you about at CES.

21:36Intel Vice President and General Manager of PC Products Daniel Rogers did announce Monday that it will have a portable gaming platform on the way using newly announced Panther Lake series of chips. But IGN and TechCrunch's sources are saying there will be a Panther Lake chip made specifically for that platform. IGN says that Intel can cut different die slices and, quote, spec the chips to offer better performance on the GPU where you want it. So some customization to make these work perfectly or tailor them to the individual system. That would be certainly attractive to folks making these systems.

22:09Most of those systems are using AMD chips these days. AMD just announced the AMD Ryzen 9 9850X 3D for gaming PCs. Intel did not announce a SKU for this. Rogers did tell TechCrunch more details about handheld gaming devices from Intel. Will come later this year. So we are going to hear about this. Intel's not trying to deny it. They just haven't given us the details on the chips yet. That's kind of cool. I'm really into portable gaming. So if we're getting more chipsets and more competition, I'm down with that. I mean, it's crazy. There are companies planning to use AMD's Strix Halo series of high-performance APU chips that were meant for laptops or mini workstations, and they want to put them into a handheld.

23:00for gaming, which really tells you they definitely see that there's an appetite for this. These aren't going to be cheap. Those chips, you're going to set you back at least$600 to$800. And that's before you add the rest of the device. You're looking at$2 ,000. You won't have any RAM because you won't have any money left for it. But if you're fine with keeping yourself plugged into the wall for most of your gaming experience, definitely a market for it. It's still good just from an overall Intel standpoint, because a lot of news that we've heard about Intel lately is not the greatest. The fact that they are still putting pokers near the fire to see what gets hot is an impressive thing that they're still doing.

23:40They are actively working to figure it out. And it's a testament to the fact that they moved over from a monolithic chip design to a chiplet design, which allows them the flexibility to do this, something they couldn't have done before. And if this really does work out, I mean, the 18A process, Intel would be back in a pole position that they've lost in recent years. Most of us are still on Wi-Fi 6 devices, but Wi-Fi 8 is already showing up on CES in routers and chips. And there isn't even a certified standard yet. Wi-Fi 8 improves reliability and power efficiency, where Wi-Fi 7 improves speed.

24:19Among the Wi-Fi 8 products were a chip from Broadcom and a router from Asus. And we're likely to see products before the end of the year, which is still before the standard is certified. Yeah, I don't think the roadmap calls it for until 2028. I was going to say, it's a ways out there still. This is like the old 802.11n routers that we got like three years before the standard, the pre-n routers. I mean, power efficiency, I'm down with that. Reliability, what does that mean? That actually means your range. You're not going to get interrupted by interference. You're going to be able to have more devices on the connection.

25:00Got it. Especially with Wi-Fi 5, you put more than a dozen devices on that at the same time, and you start to lose performance. So it's that kind of connective reliability. So you're not like, hey, why is the Wi-Fi acting funny kind of thing? So since we're still years away from an actual Wi-Fi 8 standard, are we going to start hearing from others? Okay, well, this is Wi-Fi 8 Max and Wi-Fi 8 Max Ultra Premium. Is it a marketing ploy at this point? Honestly, IEEE has been pretty good at avoiding that kind of thing. So I don't expect that to happen in this case, even though in every other case I would expect it to happen.

25:36They might say something like Wi-Fi 8 ready. Yes, yeah, yeah, you'll get stuff like that. Because they won't be able to call it Wi-Fi 8 until it's actually certified as a standard. Google says it will reduce its release of the Android source code, a.k.a. Android Open Source Project, a.k.a. AOSP, twice a year now. So it used to be released four times a year with every quarterly release, now just twice. Google says this will simplify development, eliminate managing multiple code branches, and deliver more stable and secure code to developers. The company also says it will keep publishing security patches every month on a dedicated security-only branch for relevant OS releases.

26:16Do we buy it? Do we buy that that's why, that they needed to do that? It just sounds like... I mean, what would be the nefarious version? The counter argument is that with so many other people using Android, with China becoming more popular and having their own variants, that Google wants to maintain control over this and not let the open-source version somehow become more popular than their controlled Google Play services version, especially with them losing court cases that allow them to tie that in the contracts. That's a good point. I mean, I am glad that they're going to continue to publish those security patches every month like they have been.

26:54So luckily that's not affected in this sense. But yeah, you have a point there. That's not my point. That's just what I hear people saying. I don't know. There's also good reasons to reduce it that they gave, which is like, yeah, this makes it less complex. developers have more time to adapt and all of that. It might not be all the reasons. Yeah, it could be both. That glass is half full and half empty. A lot of folks have been convinced that Microsoft renamed Office to Microsoft 365 Copilot. Have any of you seen people talking about this? I have heard about that. Yeah, I have. It has not. It has not done that.

27:30But it's understandable why people are confused. Let me confuse you more by explaining. The product page for Microsoft 365 Copilot says the following. The Microsoft 365 Copilot app, formerly Office, lets you create, share, collaborate, etc., etc. So people latched onto that. Oh, formerly Office. They've changed Office to be Microsoft 365 Copilot app. But that phrase refers, even though it says app, to the website where you get the free web apps of all Microsoft's core programs. So Word, Excel, PowerPoint. And that site has not been called office since 2022. In 2022, they renamed it Microsoft 365.

28:13So they're just adding Copilot to that name. Microsoft added Copilot to Microsoft 365 in 2024 and rebranded it Microsoft 365 Copilot, but it didn't change all the other instances of it. There's also, just to confuse you further, a separate product called Microsoft 365 Copilot that comes with Microsoft 365. And then, of course, there is Office. Office is the standalone version of the suite that isn't online that you can buy without a subscription. That one's name is not changing. So we're clear. Okay, we're clear. Totally, Crystal. None of that is confusing unless you think about it. No, not at all.

28:53The short version is that they didn't change anything regarding Office, but they do abuse the name Microsoft 365 Copilot to mean a lot of different things. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know about that. I know. It's a thinker. Office just feels so much cleaner. Yeah. We're old school like that. Netflix has its 2026 slate, pretty packed TV lineup, along with a film schedule. On the series side, we've got franchises including Outer Banks, The Gentleman, Bridgerton, The Witcher, final season, Lupin, Avatar The Last Airbender Three Body Problem, One Piece and Beef alongside some new projects from the Duffer Brothers including The Burroughs and an animated Stranger Things spinoff, people will be excited about that with some period dramas, animation unscripted shows, live events and sports On the film side Netflix set dates for titles like War Machine, that's March 6th Joe's College Road Trip, February 13th Remarkably Bright Creatures, May 8th Unveiled first looks at Enola Holmes 3 and teased some high-profile releases, including Greta Gerwig's Narnia, Ben Affleck's Animals, The Whisper Man, and Here Comes the Flood, and multiple Tyler Perry projects.

30:07I thought this was interesting, not so much because it's tech news and that it's streaming TV, but they announced it during CES, and Netflix is here. They're part of CES. So even though this was an online announcement, I feel like this is something they're pointing to when they're doing their meetings and doing their presentations of like, hey, have you seen our new lineup? We just announced it today. Well, and for people who are on the fence about getting new home theater stuff, it ties in nicely. Because you're like, look at all the stuff Netflix is about to give me this year. Maybe I should upgrade that TV.

30:38I mean, this week is all about TV, so it's a good time. TVs, but also making sure people you already have commitments with are still on it. It's like, hey, we haven't forgot you. We still have stuff that people want to see. You want to make sure your remote still has our name on the button. Right. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. That's actually a really good point. All right. So much to talk about at CES. Let's give you a few more highlights of interesting things we saw here at the show. Sarah, start with an old favorite. Oh, an old favorite. Segway. The, I don't know. I don't even know. The tourist fun.

31:13Steve Wozniak's favorite. The tourist fun. I don't know. I don't even know what you call the Segway anymore. Do tourists still use Segways? They probably do when they're on tours in a different city. A company's still out there making stuff. Launched two new e-bikes, a dirt bike, and a robot lawnmower. The Myon has a rack for carrying luggage, electronic gear shifting, electronic motor optimization, and Segway's proprietary intelligent ride system. It can do stuff like ramp up power as you go uphill. There's also integrated Apple Find My GPS tracking and a few other smart features to integrate with health and fitness apps.

31:52The other e-bike, the Mushy bike, is a cargo bike with an optional passenger seat. It also has foot pegs and a beverage holder. The dirt bike is called the Sabre. It has three power modes equivalent to a 15, 200, or 300cc engine. Segway also introduced the Nanimo X4 and i2 series of robot lawn care. The X4 is the big guy for large yards. The i2 is for everyday lawn maintenance. Both will be available for pre-order starting January 16th. Yeah, they're part of a wide category and probably not the top of either one of these categories, e-bikes and robotic lawnmowers. I mean, just yesterday at Showstoppers, we saw Yarbo and Limo.

32:35And I can't even think of the dozens of others that we saw at Digital Experience at CES Unveiled. There's a lot of this stuff going on. There's a ton of them. And they all look similar. And they all cut grass and edge and stuff like that. I know. So a couple of years ago, it was like, ooh, robots that can automatically cut my grass. Now we're like, there's another one. It's a little better. It's a little more precise, a little more range. If you can also trim the hedges, I'd be stoked. Yeah, there's a couple of hedges. There are. Well, there are. There are hedge trimmer attachments. Robotic arms.

33:07Yeah. I mean, if you compare them to something like the robo vacuum indoors where it's like, you know, a little cluster of dirt in the corner is going to bother somebody. A lawn is a different, it's a different situation. I mean, yeah, you want it to look nice and pristine. but the rules are a bit different for what they should do and how they differentiate from each other. I even saw one of these that will, this is not available yet, but basically the lawnmower will pull a little trailer behind it. It has a robotic arm, so if it comes across a rock, anything up to like three pounds, it can pick it up and put it into the trailer and pull it behind it so it can cut without having to go around it.

33:43So it almost reminded me of a big track almost. When you've got the weight of a lawnmower, which is heavier than a vacuum cleaner, you've got enough counterweight that you can pick up heavier stuff like that. Exactly. France's Wheel Move is showing a compact motorized wheelchair add-on that can make any manual wheelchair an electric wheelchair. We have this up on our YouTube channel at youtube.com slash dailytechnewshow if you want to take a look at it. It's basically a 10-inch extra wheel and a 250-watt motor that can drive up to 6 miles per hour. That's 10 kilometers per hour. handle slopes up to 10 % and the range is 25 kilometers about 15 miles battery is swappable too so you can bring an extra one with you and get extra range you install a frame on the wheelchair's front just kind of like snap on stuff and then the wheel is added really quickly to that frame you can pull it on pull it off he did it in front of me multiple times without a problem there's a small wired control panel that can be strapped to the armrest or to your body if you need to uh the entire thing weighs less than eight kilograms about 17.6 pounds packs up in a backpack uh and pre-orders are open in france uh shipping later this year it is covered by most insurance there but it will sell for about six thousand dollars without subsidization and this may be my favorite thing i saw here i wouldn't be shocked if this will be something that people can rent like if they're going to an amusement park or something like that they can just rent this attach it to their chair and use it for the day and then turn it back in as compared to having to get a whole.

35:14That's a great idea. Yeah. So it seems very rentable. I really appreciate that. It seems like a lot of companies this year are focusing on like mobility and helping people and trying to find ways to help folks that aren't considerably able. And it's really cool to see that. What I like most about this is it's not like, here's another wheelchair. This is like, hey, this is an accessory. You're not necessarily having to. And especially... $6 ,000 sounds like a lot if you're not shopping for electric wheelchairs, which are much more expensive. And if you already have a wheelchair that you love. Yeah, yeah.

35:50And I don't know if you've ever seen or used an electric wheelchair, but they're heavy. You need a special minivan to put it in when you're driving around. I saw the video. I did this video. He took and he picked it up with one arm to attach it. And that, I think, would be enormous for people because it just allows you an incredible amount of flexibility. Rob, I think you're on to something with the rentability of this. It's sort of like I'm like, I can run a couple miles, but I can't run a marathon today. So something that could help you out beyond maybe your general routine would be really smart.

36:36As Roger was saying, chairs are ridiculously heavy, so you've got to make special arrangements to travel with them. This seems like, well, I'm going to visit family. My chair around the house is fine, you know, or just getting where we need to go. But if we're going to go to an amusement park, don't make me have to rent an entire chair. I've got my chair. Give me an accessory to let me use my chair that I'm comfortable in. And I think you will see this very, very rentable. Just like when you go to amusement parks now, you can rent the Rascals and stuff like that. I think you're going to be able to actually rent this for folks who want to stay in their chair.

37:09The Corsair Galleon 100 SD Edition Keyword features integrated Stream Deck hardware, a 5-inch 720x1280 LCD color screen that integrates with common apps for managing peripherals, and it also includes dual rotary dials, a sizable widget display area, and 12 LCD screen keys. If you're a keyboard enthusiast, and I know many of you are, it has an 8 ,000 hertz polling rate per key customizable, RGB lighting, and also a mood bar. The keys incorporate MLX Hi-Fi switches and PBT DS keycaps with a gasket mount. Yeah, this is a keyboard dream. This is a nice looking keyboard. This thing is legit. I mean, what this to me signals is that slow melding between like a video switcher interface, which is if you've ever seen them.

38:03If you've seen Star Wars, you've seen one indirectly. Go to the overhead shot. You'll see one over there. But I mean, that's, you know, it's just if it's a few more before you have like a little just a video switcher slash keyboard. And that would be super awesome. You know, I just got a keyboard probably not a year ago. But, you know, the space bar is getting kind of shiny where my thumb is. So I've got to get rid of that. I just need one of these. I've just got to get a whole thing here. Yeah, that's not okay. So IAI, or I should say, IAI Smarts, Emerson's smart line of products, lets you use voice control on its fans, heaters, smart plugs, and air fryers without needing any connection.

38:44No Wi-Fi, no app, no matter. There is a built-in mic and speaker in each device and onboard models to process your request. Love this take. I want to see more of this where it's like, hey, you just need it to turn on and off, you know, a few other things, volume up, volume down. We can do that on device now. Why use Wi-Fi for that? It's one of those things where sometimes you don't need your devices to be too smart, just smart enough. Yeah. All right. And finally, real quick, Mobileye is acquiring Israel's Menti Robotics, which is developing humanoid robotics for household use. big trend we've seen here.

39:20Obviously, LG and SwitchBot and a lot of other folks showing this off. So Mobileye getting into that business as well. One last time, if you're watching live, if you're watching this recorded, you may have missed it. But if any of you are in Las Vegas, we're doing a meetup tonight, Wednesday, January 7th, 6.30 p.m. at the Resorts World Food Court. We're going to have some stickers to give away and we'll just sit around and talk. Plenty of places for you to go and buy something to eat if you want, buy a drink, whatever. but we'll just be meeting up in that food court. Pretty casual, so no reservation or anything needed.

39:536.30 p.m., Wednesday, January 7th. Come say hello. Are you going to be wearing a special sweater, Tom, so people can find you in the crowd? I could wear my Daily Tech News Show polo shirt. That would work. Yeah, and my DTNS hat. There you go. Yeah. Or I could just stand next to Rob because then everyone will find me because he's like 12 feet tall and has a wonderful hat that's way cooler than mine.

40:24All right, let's get to Shannon Morse's favorite things at CES. I know it's only day two, but of course we kind of wind down and be like, okay, we've seen all the press releases, we've seen all the stuff. Take us through the top five things you've seen at CES. You know, I think the hardest thing is like remembering what my top five is because it's so hard to remember everything that you've seen in the course of like four days of running around between meetings and recording things. But I tried my hardest. So I'll have to go through my specs on my phone because I don't remember all these specs.

40:52But the first one that I saw is probably my favorite. And this one was just a sweet meaning it was for this device called the PUNCT. It's not PUNCT. It's PUNCT. Yes. PUNCT MC03. It's a smartphone which is developed by a Swiss company in collaboration with Apostrophe OS, which is a very privacy focused operating system. So Punked has a couple of smartphones on the market already. They're very, very security conscious and security and privacy is like their go to model with this device. But that doesn't mean that they are like skipping or just scraping by with the hardware. They're actually giving some really good hardware in here.

41:32You get like a 64 megapixel phone, if my memory serves right. You get a series of cameras on the back, and you also get a really, really nice high-end display on the front. Very bright to look at. And the phone itself is really durable, and you can actually remove the battery, which is incredible. And they include a 3.5-millimeter headphone jack. So they're playing to the niche crowd. They are so playing to the niche crowd. They're like, you all keep complaining about this stuff. Let's just make it work. I was so impressed. They have collaborations with Threema, which is a security conscious app, end to end encrypted messaging.

42:07They are also working with Proton. So a lot of the applications for Proton you can find on this phone. And if you are still obsessed with like social media, they have a sandboxed area where you can still install Google Play Store apps separately from everything else that you do on the phone. It's a really, really cool experience. Very different from what we have with iOS and Android. So I was totally impressed. I was like, can I please review one of these? I have to get my hands on one of these. I feel like my audience would love it. I think they're going to price it at around$6.99. That might be Euro, so the USD price might be a little bit different than that, but$6.99 is.

42:45And they are going to bring one to the U.S.? That's what they told me. So hopefully we're able to ship one over here. But right now, I think they're doing reservations for the European market. There's been a lot of this kind of thing made where people are trying to make repairable phones or trying to make secured by design phones. You've seen all of these. Where does this sit in your estimation of how good those are? I think this one is one of the best contenders that I have seen. I have seen a lot of products that are associated with like this is an Android phone. But still, it's a privacy-conscious app, but it's still running on Android instead of like Graphene or Apostrophe.

43:27So you do have those kind of issues when you look at those kind of applications. I've also seen a lot of applications and hardware coming out at CES that are focused on, oh, but we're using AI, but all of your data is stored locally, which is good, but it's still using AI. So how comfortable are you with that? How are you comfortable with the LLM that's running on this device itself? Yeah, yeah. I thought it was interesting that they give you the option to have that Google Play Store in there, too. Yeah, me too. Because I understand that can be a deal killer for reasons beyond your control sometimes.

43:59Right, exactly. Very cool. So I also got to see, and this is complete other side of the spectrum, Project Ava from Razer. I was able to play with this in person. So this is a little AI desk companion. It's a little miniature anime-like or video gaming character-like companion in a little 3D holographic display. They do this by mirroring the display inside of a little sphere, and you can choose a couple of different characters at the get-go. However, they're planning to include several other characters by the time it comes to market. You can currently reserve this for$20. When I asked if there was going to be a specific price point that they could tell me, they said, well, you can reserve it for$20, so it's probably a lot cheaper than what you can expect.

44:45And I was like, okay, cool, that's nice to hear. So with this AI desk companion, you can ask it for the weather. You can ask it for tips when you're playing your video games. You can ask it about how you should mod your gun for your FPS game. And it actually is able to translate and talk to you really quickly and have a conversation in different languages. so when I was demoing it a guy that was with me was French so he started talking to it just out of the blue in French and it immediately understood him and was able to change the dialect and change the uh translation so that he understood everything and it was talking back to him in French so then I walked up and I started talking in Japanese and it understood me immediately and it switched to Japanese so it was really cool and it was it was very quick to understand so you don't necessarily have to say like switch to English right switch back to Japanese it was contextual yeah it was very smart and very quick so I was pretty impressed with it yes it is AI it is AI companion desk character but they did say that it is doing everything all the processing locally can you put did you ask him if you can put yourself in it as far as I know no they do friends and family they have a couple of artists that are working on the different characters and developing it has to be one of the so when you plug it in it's just power and wi-fi and that's all it needs or do you need to it yeah yeah and it also does use uh gpu processing from your computer so you have for rendering yeah you have to have a pretty good computer to run this thing off of that's good so you need to plug it into your pc as well you do yeah it's via i want to say it's usbc so next i have a pet feeder which does not sound very exciting at all many pet feeders at c i know There's so many pet feeders.

46:38So this is called the Cheer Bowl. It's the Cheer Bowl Pet Feeder Match G1. And the reason I really like this one, even though it looks conceptually like a lot of the other pet feeders we see, usually they use the chip that is found inside of your pets, like the back of their neck, to open up a lid and allow them to eat, especially if you have a multi-cat or a multi-dog household. And by the way, if people don't have pets and don't understand what Shannon means, they're not robots. There's like an RFID chip you could use to identify your pet. If your pet gets lost or something. Yes, exactly. They're like little tiny microchips.

47:15Very important, very important information. So I was like, oh, this thing looks exactly like other ones that I have seen that use those RFID chips in your cat's neck. So in this case, your cat walks up, it senses your cat in front of it using a little camera, and it opens up the lid when it identifies your cat. Is it facial recognition? It uses facial recognition of your cat's face. So even if you have two cats that are like the same color or maybe they have very, very similar features, it can identify differences in their faces. You can keep one of them out and let the other one through? So it'll kick one of them out or it'll block them from eating.

47:52So technically, like, I would recommend if somebody had two of these in their household, like two cats, then you would get two of these different pet feeders. So each one had a very specific feeder to eat out of. So it's privacy conscious, which is what really, really, you know, made me happy to hear about it. So they say that even though it's using AI to identify your cat, it's not sending any of that data up to the cloud. There is no microphone installed in it. But usually the camera is off. The only time it comes on is when it senses something that comes within a few millimeters of the camera itself.

48:28And then it'll turn on and identify the cat in front of the pet feeder. And also they have a little privacy light on it that turns on or turns off depending on whether or not the camera is on. So they have a lot of features that are going into it that I found to be really interesting and very privacy conscious. Privacy for you and the cat, I suppose. Yes, exactly. More for you. Although the poor cat, I mean, while they're eating, the camera's going to be on. Yeah, they could be collecting all kinds of important data to market to that cat. Like, oh, he really likes that food. All right, you got your hands on the Samsung Trifold.

49:03I did. It's not like it's new because they announced it in Korea earlier, but it's the first time a lot of people here have been able to pick it up. What do you think? It's been very exciting. I was more impressed than I thought it would be. I thought it was going to be an extremely bulky device. I thought it was going to be very heavy. And I was a little worried that it would feel extremely fragile. But when I opened it, it felt very similar to the Fold 7 in terms of sizing. It also has very similar specs in terms of the cameras on the back of it. Like a 200 megapixel camera is installed in the back of it.

49:35And it supports full desktop DeX from Samsung, which I am so stoked about because I use DeX all the time. And you don't have to connect this to an external monitor. You can just use desktop decks on this teeny tiny phone when you fold it out into a tablet. So you have the best of both worlds in your pocket now. I find that it's fascinating. And I think that part is really important. A lot of people are missing that because they were like, oh, a foldable. Like, yeah, OK, cool. Yay, it's a trifold. What's the big deal? But this is the big deal. The big deal is that you can use it like a desktop now.

50:09And that's not something that we've had necessarily in foldables or regular smartphones yet. So really interesting. I also felt like even though it's a little bit thicker than like a S25 Ultra, not by much. So it's a pretty good size and it's built really well. So I was very impressed with it. So if I understand correctly, it's actually thinner than the Fold 5. Yes, it is. Which is just a two-year-old phone. Yep. So it's actually considerably thinner than that. They went as thin as they could. So when you look at the USB port on the bottom, there's maybe a paper-like edge to it in between the USB port and the outer part of the frame.

50:49So it's very, very thin. They went as thin as they could without taking out that USB-C port. It was cool. All right, that's four. What's number five? The last one is from ASUS, and it's kind of a series of products from a collaboration that they're doing. Some people say ASUS. I say ASUS because it came from, historically, Pegasus. That's where they got the name. So I say Asus because that's what the PR people told me to say. That's why I do it. Yeah. So ROG, Republic of Gamers, they are doing a collaboration with Kojima Productions. If you're familiar with Death Stranding, then you know Kojima Productions and Hideo Kojima.

51:25I'm a big fan of their products. I'm a big fan of the artists, big fan of the video game. So I saw this collaboration and I was like, this is so cool. So the main thing that they're building here with the artist is the ROG Flow Z13 KJP. So it's the Kojima Productions version of the Z13 laptop. So in the laptop, you're getting very similar specs to the regular Flow Z13. They just built it in a completely different chassis. So you have all the aesthetics and all the fluid ideas and the artistry going into this laptop as compared to Death Stranding. So it literally looks like you could carry this around in the video game.

52:12In the game. It's so cool. It's beautiful. If you're a fan of Death Stranding, if you're a fan of collaborations with video games, this was a very, very interesting device to see in person. Very cool. All right. So that's always good at this point in the show to kind of look back at like, okay, what's really standing out? Because there's such an avalanche of stuff. I figure we should go around the horn as well. Rob, anything stand out to you? So, yeah, last night, actually, the Showstoppers party, one of the booths, it had a ton of people around it. I'm like, okay, what's that? Let's go over there and figure out what that is.

52:47And as I get there, there's a guy that I kind of know. His name is Kevin Michalik, Crackberry Kevin. So I'm like, oh, he's talking about the clicks. So the clicks, for those who don't know, it's basically a device that looks an awful lot like a BlackBerry Bold. In fact, the designer is the same designer that designed the BlackBerry Bold for Research in Motion. I will not call them BlackBerry. Didn't Jason mention this in the pre when we were last Friday, I think? He threw clicks out. So you got to actually see the real thing. So I actually got to see the real thing. And it is, and I'm talking to someone, for folks who don't know, I used to run a BlackBerry enthusiast site back in the day.

53:23So Kevin and I, we were always going back and forth on seeing who could get the best story. And he is saying that this is the best-filling phone that he has ever held. And he's comparing it to a BlackBerry Bold, which I thought was probably the best phone that you could hold in your hand. And it's just got the keyboard, the screen, the weight, and everything's right. And the company clicks. They don't just make this. In fact, this device is not even available yet. It's going to come out sometime this year. But it looked great. It looks like an Android Power BlackBerry Bold. It's just been modernized to 2026.

53:56It is a really cool-looking device. Clix has other devices. They create cases that have the keyboard at the bottom. But this is the actual phone that they've built that's going to be coming out. And they say that they've got three, four years of just metrics going into it to help them determine. So for me, being a BlackBerry guy still, that was the coolest thing I've seen. floor yeah when i saw the clicks communicator i immediately thought of the palm centro which was my first smartphone way way way way back in the day back when palm was a thing and it's so beautiful and it's very lightweight really interesting and they have a bunch of different cases that you can put on the back to kind of customize it with your favorite colors i appreciate that because they're also coming out with a purple one so thank you clicks uh i think the wheel move that we talked about earlier is one of my favorite things but i want to give a shout out to something that actually wasn't on display at CES this year, but the founder of the company was on a panel on accessibility that I was at, Xander Captioning Glasses, X-A-N-D-E-R.

54:57What's very cool about these is they're not connected to the internet at all. It is an on-device model. I think it's using LLMs, but they originally developed it with just natural language processing. So it may just be simple natural language processing still. But what it does is allows you to see captions of whoever is talking to you. Projected like kind of right next to them so you can maintain eye contact and just read whatever they're saying if you can't properly hear it. Will it say captions in your local language like if they're speaking a different language? There's a limited support of languages but it's pretty wide.

55:40Whatever language it's hearing it'll do. Oh that's so cool. Yeah. And it's not trying to do anything else. Again, it's like we don't need to connect to the Internet. We don't need to connect to Wi-Fi. There doesn't need to be a privacy problem because all you need to do is transcribe. And these bottles are good enough to run in the chip that we can put in these glasses. And they look like normal glasses. That's so cool. They're not like weird-looking glasses. They have a little bit of a thing inside. So maybe you might notice something. But someone looking at you won't notice anything at all. Wow.

56:10And all they need is a microphone. They don't need a camera. That's pretty slick. Yeah. Yeah, that's really cool. All right, Sarah, you've got the 30 ,000-foot view of CES from HQ over there. Anything in particular catch your eye? Televisions. So, yeah, it's totally different covering the stuff from afar. I'm not that far away from Vegas, but I'm not there. So none of the stuff I've been able to see in person. But when it comes to especially the TV category, oftentimes it's something that we have seen before. It's just gotten this much better or this many more nits of brightness type thing. But I got to say that OLED Evo W6 wallpaper TV from LG, I don't need it, but I want it.

56:59it's just it's a it's a if i if money was no object that would be uh the thing uh that i would i would add to my living room that could not even support something like this uh it that would just be ridiculous but you know a girl can dream uh you know besides televisions i gotta say the robo vacuums some of them some of them i'm impressed by them and i also think a lot of them have uh Because they're all trying to outdo each other. There's several companies in the mix here. And some of the features are going to be silly. And when I say silly, meaning you're going to get something that's pretty expensive.

57:38You're going to put it in your house and be like, you know what? This actually doesn't work the way I was hoping that it would work. I think that there's a lot of differentiation that companies are trying to outdo each other with. Robots going up and down stairs, though, that's always been a limitation. for anybody I know who's got a robot vacuum and has a set of stairs. You either need multiple ones or you need to manually bring it up and down and make sure that it doesn't fall down the stairs and there are boundaries and that sort of thing. So that's a fun category for me, especially the whole sense of robot vacuums are now not all of them.

58:12I mean, there are many different robot vacuums that you can buy on the market now, but the wet and dry option, I have heard from folks who already have models like this in the past that they don't work that well. You know, it ends up you have, you know, a carpet that's kind of damp, you know, for the rest of the day because it didn't really do its job the way it was supposed to, you know, if there was a little spill or something on the carpet. So I'm really looking forward to seeing how this type of home automation, because we all have to keep our homes clean. It's just, I mean, I guess you don't have to, but we should.

58:44We should keep our homes clean. And anything that can help with the tasks that we like doing the very least, I'm down for. Fantastic. All right. Before we get out of here, though, our producer Amos actually has been seeing as many, if not more products than the rest of us wandering around these show floors. And Amos, you have one that you wanted to call out as well, right? Yeah. A company called Coro has come out with a breastfeeding monitor that actually in real time monitors the amount of milk that is being given to the baby or being expressed. and it can be monitored. One of the things when you're breastfeeding is you don't know how much the baby is actually getting, how much nutrition the baby is getting.

59:23So they've developed a product that will actually monitor how much milk is being expressed at a time in real time so it can be tracked and it can be tracked over if the baby is taking it or if you're storing it for later. And it's a single device and because breast milk is sanitized automatically just by nature, you can continue to use it for every feeding for up to six months or one feeding a day for three years before you have to replace it wow um and it's rechargeable it's got a nice little case to it and everything else um and it's coming out next month in the uk it's scheduled to come out in the u.s in september yeah um and as a father of many daughters this was one of the things that like really struck me that anytime you can mix tech and women's health i'm i'm in and this was one of the things like this just makes sense this is why haven't we had this all this time yeah so yeah awesome very good very good all right uh we do have one more day of ces yet to come and we promise we'll try to get to your emails on that show tomorrow so folks too much to talk about there is so much stuff that is going on here so we want to know what you are interested in what are you thinking about so if you've got some insights into a story Please, please, please share it with us at Daily Tech News Show.

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