Claude Chats Leak Out onto the Internet - DTNS 5318

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2:23This is the Daily Tech News for Monday, July 27th, 2026. We tell you what you need to know, give you the important context and help each other understand. Today, client chats leak out on Google again. Impossible press it setting cases on data at the U.S. border. I'm Tom Merritt. And I'm Rob Dunwood. And most people are just listening to this, so they have no idea that anything is amiss. But if you're watching the video at YouTube.com slash Daily Tech News show or anywhere else, you may wonder if I forgot to turn my lights on. I'm actually following the advice of a doctor. Dr. Nikki suggested this app called Time Shifter that tries to prepare you for jet lag.

3:01And I'm flying to Japan tomorrow. So it said that until noon today, I need to avoid light as much as possible and wear sunglasses when I can't avoid light. So my lights are off and I'm wearing sunglasses, Rob. Tom, I'm glad you explained that because I thought either you just had cataract surgery or have a concussion. So I'm glad that neither of those two things have just happened. Those are reasonable assumptions if you don't know otherwise. Let's start with what you need to know with the big story.

3:32The 404 reports on a Reddit thread that showed that people have found some chats with Claude have been indexed by Google. Again. This has happened before, not even just Anthropic. The discovery was made by doing a site-specific search on Google. So you put site colon and then the domain name claw.ai slash share. These are going to give you links to pages with info people have shared with someone else. So if you haven't run into this before, if you're using Anthropic, and you can do this in OpenAI and Gemini too, You can share a chat and it creates a link that you send to the person you want to share it with.

4:11And that link is a publicly accessible page. Anyone with the link can see it, but the chances of anyone guessing the link are small unless a search engine indexes it. By the way, you cannot do this kind of share in team or enterprise accounts. This only affects people with individual pro, max, or free accounts. The pages would not be indexed in Google search if there was a no index tag. However, Anthropics robots.txt file instructs search engines to skip reading the share pages, saying, well, with no reason not to put a no index, we'll just say, don't read this page at all. And Google respects that.

4:51Google does not read the page, which means it never sees the no index tag, which means it doesn't put the contents of the pages on the internet, but those links can be publicly linked elsewhere. So Google will quite often pick up the link. So when you do a site-specific search, you just get a list of links. There's no information about what is in them, but anybody can click on them and see. That's probably not a problem for a large number of chats, but it's a big one for some of them, including people who shared sensitive information, things like cryptocurrency access keys. It would be easy to automate a script to go through looking for those kinds of links and then drain somebody's wallet.

5:39However, nobody has confirmed a seed phrase or a working key available in any of these. Nobody has reported any stolen funds because of this. So that's still hypothetical, but there were examples of API keys being in there, names and addresses, kinds of things that you get in normal breaches, but you know, probably these people didn't want those available in a search engine. 404 Media says the links no longer appear. So Google may have mitigated the listings, at least for now. But a search for shared interactive workspaces does still work. And like I said, this happened to OpenAI last year. It happened to Grok last year.

6:12It's also happened to Claude in the past. Rob feels like they should figure this out so that the no index happens and these don't get indexed and then the links don't show up. So, Tom, if I'm honest, I'm not even mad that this happens. This just lets me know and should let everyone know that if you put stuff on the Internet and you don't have it end to end encrypted, you should just assume that it's going to show up at a search engine at some point. That's probably a safer way to think that a chat that you're with the chat about to share with somebody to think that it's safe, because this has happened over and over again from multiple different vendors on multiple different search engines.

6:54And it will continue to happen. And like, you know, folks are upset with Google. It's like, why? Google just did what you told them to do. Don't read this. They didn't. They don't see the no index tag. So they don't know. They don't know not to index it because you told them not to read it. So this is this is just one of those things to where I think that The big story here is clearly this is kind of embarrassing for, you know, for the companies here. But as a user, you just have to know that if you are not actively encrypting stuff that you put on the Internet, just assume that a search engine eventually is going to get a hold of it and can expose it when you didn't necessarily intend for that to happen.

7:32Yeah. And that is good advice probably for everybody listening to this right now. right? Because you're into technology and you enjoy playing with technology and you're probably used to that. You're probably like, yeah, it's a good reminder. When I share a link, unless that link is password protected or behind some kind of encryption, that link is available for anybody who can guess the link and obscurity is not security. However, these tools are mainstream. They have a lot of people using them who are not people who think about technology the way we do all the time and so i think i think there is uh a responsibility of the search engines not not just google but but bing and duck duck go as well uh to work with these companies to figure out like okay what is the best way to make sure this doesn't happen because it's happened at least four times now yes it's happened a lot and like this one is i'm not even really blaming google a lot on this one because it's like what do you want them to do don't read this they say cool we won't yeah they don't it's an automated system that's like yeah that's that's how the system is supposed to work they did exactly what they were asked to do they index everything that they come across but if they don't get to a no index because you tell them not to read the no index it can't really fault them for indexing the things you told them not to read so it's it's one of those situations where this is an unfortunate mishap um and you You are right, Tom, that the the the the AI companies in this case, they need to be better with telling search engines.

9:11Here's what you can do. Here's what you can't do. And be very specific. They have to think about it. Hey, wait a minute. Maybe these aren't LLMs that are getting the nuance of what you meant. They're just you said do this. This is what we were doing. That's generally how search engines work. They know what to read. They know what not to read based off of what you say. And they're going to do exactly what you told them to do. in most cases, at least the big ones are the Googles of the world that, you know, the Yahoo's that goes with the world. They're going to do what the text tells them to do.

9:39Yeah. I mean, there's not someone named Kelly Google sitting here making these decisions. This is a computer system, right? You were programming it. And so you got to figure out how to program it. Right. And I mean, the no indexing and the blocking is not a new problem. So this is something they should be able to figure out. So here's a question. When you are sharing these chats, should there be like a little disclaimer right there? These can be seen on the Internet or do you think that that would prevent people from actually sharing anything, decreasing the usefulness of the of the ability or of the feature?

10:10I've seen that disclaimer that says when you share this link with someone else, you know, it is not protected and it is not private. I've seen that when I've shared these sorts of links before. I think it's less about putting a sign on the fridge saying, don't take my lunch. It's more about figuring out how to lock up your lunch. Yeah, that's probably a good point. but DTNS is made possible by you the listener thanks to Steve Davies Howard Yermish John Atwood and Pat yeah and we got uh brand new patrons uh welcome into the fold Thomas Jam Monica Bruce and Watongood uh it's great to have new patrons uh that that's why we do this and uh everybody make them feel welcome if you if you see them posting around or in the discord or anything like that.

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14:08There's more we need to know today. Let's get to the briefs. A few pieces of NVIDIA news to share with you today. NVIDIA is spending a lot of money again. It's made a substantial increased investment in Safe Super Intelligence. A lab led by former OpenAI founder and chief scientist Ilya Suskover. As part of the deal, the company gets a lot of Vera Rubin GPUs. It's been using mostly Google TPUs up until now. Safe Super Intelligence will also help NVIDIA advance its tech. Meanwhile, NVIDIA is also in talks to kick in around$250 billion to help OpenAI guarantee a lease on SoftBank's 10 gigawatt data center being built in southern Ohio.

14:45And NVIDIA is backing an industry group called the Open Secure AI Alliance. The idea is to create and maintain security tools that any company can use to defend against attacks. It will build on the leadership of the Linux Foundation's Acreedis initiative and OpenSSF community work. Several of the companies that signed the open letter on the importance of the open weight models last week are members of this new organization, including the Linux Foundation, HPE, Microsoft, Dell, Planetair, Hugging Face, and also OpenClaw, Cloudflare, and SpaceX. NVIDIA will offer open models, model weights, data, and new agent harnesses.

15:20HPE will contribute standards and methods to verify agents. Yeah, this is shaping up to be a very interesting debate over how open models are handled in the United States. That will have a lot of effects on how popular those open models are, how much they're developed. And I think what NVIDIA is trying to do is say, we don't want to ban open models. We want to make sure they're secure. So this effort, the Open Secure AI Alliance, is basically saying we will make it so that companies can use open models to fight cyber attacks. That addresses a complaint about things like Fable 5 and Mythos and Mythos being only given to certain people to say, let's help everybody.

16:08But I think it also has the side effect of saying we're also going to have a lot of eyes on these open models. So if there is something in there that is untoward, which is the fear that some people in the U.S. have, that China would put a backdoor in or something, it is more likely to get caught. Yeah. And this, when you really think about it, this makes complete sense for an NVIDIA to do this because they want to sell processors to whomever wants to use AI in however way they want to use it. So if they can do things to enhance security, if they can make, particularly here in the United States, folks feel more comfortable about using these.

16:47And when I say folks, I mean the federal government. That is a good thing for them. That's more business for them. Because ultimately, if we get locked out of using these because of fear of using them, that means that they sell a lot fewer of their GPUs. Yeah. Big thanks to Motang for posting this next story in our Daily Tech News show subreddit. U.S. Department of Justice is prosecuting a U.S. citizen, a resident of Atlanta named Samuel Tunick, after he provided a passcode to customs authorities, which wiped data from his phone. And because of that, he's being charged with knowingly destroying or damaging property to prevent authorities from seizing it.

17:29Tunick's lawyers say that the seizing of the phone itself was unlawful and therefore any evidence should be thrown out, including the offending passcode. His lawyer says that Tunick was taken for secondary inspection on January 24th, 2025 at Atlanta's Hartsfield Jackson Airport on suspicion of the phone having CSAM. uh try you know child uh sexual uh explicit material the attorney claims that there was no evidence to back that suspicion uh and uh tunic was denied an attorney and not informed of his legal rights now tunic was running graphene os i know a lot of you know about graphene os uh it looks to be that he was running it on a pixel device and graphene os gives you the option to set a passcode that when entered will wipe data rather than grant access.

18:18It's a safety measure. So if someone forces you to hand over your passcode, you can give them this one and it will make the phone secure from them at least being able to access your data. Now, that could be for a lot of situations. It's not just for Customs and Border Patrol, but after customs agents entered that passcode and the phone rebooted, they realized they didn't have any data. So they kept the phone, but went ahead and allowed him to enter the United States because they didn't have anything to charge him with. Now, the EFF says they have not seen this kind of case before, but it's a reminder that it may be better to delete all data prior to crossing the border and then download it again later.

19:00Because again, what's at issue here isn't whether there was CSAM on the phone or not. It's that he damaged evidence to keep authorities from seizing it. So if it was legal for them to seize it, then he broke the law, right? They had a legal right to seize his phone and he damaged it. it'll be up to the judge to determine whether a passcode that deletes data is exactly the same thing. But that law is not about whether there was evidence. It's about whether there was a legal right to seize a piece of equipment and you damaged it or not. If they didn't have a right to seize it, then it doesn't matter that he gave them a passcode that damaged it.

19:44They didn't have a right to seize it in the first place and everything else is moot. If the judge determines that they didn't have the right to seize it, then we get into a whole situation about what the rights at the at the border are up until now, Customs and Border Patrol in the United States has said, until we let you into the US, you're not on US soil. So you don't have the same rights that you would have when you're on US soil. And it would be a bigger deal if if that's what this judge determined. And I would suspect that case might end up in the Supreme Court if that's the way it goes. So yeah, there's there's really two pieces to this.

20:15And you laid it out very well. The first piece is that if you're coming to America or really going anywhere to where there is the opportunity that they may take your device and look at the information that is on your device, you might want to delete that device or wipe the device before you go to where you're going. Second piece of this is that, was it legal for the government to take the device in the way that they took it? And if so, he's now liable for destroying evidence after they received it, because this is how I'm looking at this. When they get to the phone, when they get the phone, when the government gets the phone, the phone becomes evidence.

20:48If you do something after, you know, they have the evidence to destroy the evidence, you're destroying evidence. If you destroy the evidence before they get the phone, you're just wiping your phone. You know, some people are going to say tomato, tomato, but those are very, very different things of, you know, just when did you actually do this? It reminds me back when I was in, you know, when I was working in corporate and software sales and we would go overseas, depending on where we were going, we would take empty, you know, we would take laptops that had no hard drives in them and we would literally get there and install the hard drive that we had mailed a week or so earlier into the device.

21:22Or in some cases, you would have to download all the stuff once we got to where we were going to do the job that we were able to do. We literally would go a day or two early. This is back in the 2003, 2004 timeframe. So we would go a day or two early just so we would have enough time to download the gigs of data once we got an internet connection wherever we were going. So I think that people still need to think about data that way. If it is legal for a government to take your phone, you can't then after the fact decide that you're going to hit a kill switch to kill the data on it. Yeah. I mean, and a couple of things to keep in mind.

21:57First of all, if you're not a U.S. citizen, this whole thing is different. This is specifically for U.S. citizens and whether you have the rights as a U.S. citizen before you enter the border or not, when you're at the border. If you're on U.S. soil, then you need a warrant. They didn't need a warrant for this. It also, I think, and again, if you're a lawyer and you understand this, please do send in a clarification. But I think it doesn't matter if there is actual evidence on the phone. It's just if the authorities had the right to seize it and you destroy it, right? You may be destroying something that would have ended up being worthless, which might sound silly, right?

22:37But if you do it, you've still broken the law. So I think that's what this case is going to turn on. NBC Universal and YouTube announced that Peacock will be available to YouTube premium subscribers, not YouTube TV, YouTube premium starting in early 2027. That will include sports, films and originals. Yeah, this might not sound like a big deal, but I think the fact that it's not going to YouTube TV, YouTube TV still has NBC stuff. In fact, renewal of the rights to NBC stuff is part of this. It's going to YouTube premium. So that's people who aren't trying to replace cable. They're just paying for YouTube because they don't want ads or they want to be able to download things or they want access to YouTube music or whatever, right?

23:18I think this is significant because if this starts to become common, we're not just seeing, because we're already seeing, you may not be aware out there, we're already seeing some of these streaming streaming services like Peacock and Paramount Plus showing up on cable. So if you pay for cable TV, regular old cable TV, you might have access to Peacock and Paramount Plus. And I think we're moving into the stage where everybody wants to be the bill, the one bill that you pay, because nobody likes to pay for all these things separately. So if you're suddenly like, oh, YouTube Premium comes with Peacock, well, I don't have to pay for Peacock anymore.

23:53I've got YouTube Premium. That's good for YouTube Premium because you're less likely to cancel it. It's good for Peacock because now they're going to get a royalty from YouTube for that. It might not be good for YouTube premiums rate because if they get a bunch of these, they're going to have to raise the rate. But I think this is a significant move. It's significant because old serial churner Rob is going to have to pull up the spreadsheet and do some math and figure some things out. Because I am one of those people that I like signing up for stuff through one place where I can cancel all the individual things because I am a serial churner.

24:25So if I have actually held up. I do not have a YouTube premium account. That's one of the ones that I said, I just don't necessarily need that. I'm not bothered by the ads. Personally, like my work account, I have it because it's work, but I've been able to get by without having YouTube premium. But if I can actually get YouTube premium and get Peacock and get some other stuff and the price is about the same or maybe even a little better, it may make sense to change how I'm subscribing to these things because I do have Peacock. I do have, you know, you know, some of this other stuff. So it's, it's, it is very interesting because as you said, I don't want to have to go to 19 different apps and manage them individually.

25:04I'd rather go one place and manage my subscriptions through there. That way it's easier to be a serial turner. This might work out in my favor. Yeah. And, and YouTube is well positioned to be your television, right? When you launch YouTube, a lot of people, that's the first thing they launch when they sit down at their television. And if you don't have to leave YouTube because you want to watch the NFL game on NBC or you want to watch Bravo, suddenly you're staying in YouTube more often. You're already staying in there for NFL Sunday ticket in a lot of cases, right? Because you can add that to YouTube premium.

25:38So I think this is interesting to watch. It's a great point because I think about how do I turn my television on. I don't hit the power button. I either hit the Netflix button or the YouTube button. And it probably is the YouTube button that I hit most. I probably at this point, watch more YouTube videos more often. I watch more hours of Netflix, but as far as the individual times I'll go to YouTube, it's probably more than I go to Netflix. So that's a key indicator here. I hit the YouTube button to actually turn the TV on. Yeah. Well, folks, if you like hearing these discussions, and I know you do, why not become a patron?

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28:17All right, let's get to those quick headlines that are going to make you look smart. chinese chip maker cxmt debuted its stock on the shanghai star market monday and rose 466 percent the company makes d ram and the buzz is that apple is testing his ram for apple products oh yeah no there's no shocker that this company rose that much uh when you sell ram alone but much less have an apple in the news uh canon released firmware updates for the eos r6 mark 3 and eos r65 cameras this week including the ability to shoot with flash on the new r65 google says it can shield users from ram prices increases no longer price adjustments will be rolled out to all pixel devices dynamically including the upcoming pixel 11 lines set to be announced on august 12th so ram again is hitting them as well for everyone rw national Flash noted this next one on our DTS subreddit.

29:13Bloomberg says Apple will unveil its smart glasses at WWDC next year. And the engineering and marketing teams are right now working on ways to ensure privacy. That's one of the reasons they're pushing it off to the middle of next year. They want to figure out whether these glasses should even have a camera or not. Reuters reports that a Chinese state-backed manufacturer has developed Immersion Deep Ultraviolet Lithography Machines, or DUV, a key chip-making tool sold by Dutch company ASML. It's the most advanced tool ASML can sell to China due to restrictions on selling to Chinese chip makers because of U.S.

29:48export restrictions on some of the intellectual property used in making the machines. It's just another small step in that if you restrict China, they're going to slowly get better at stuff. Amazon has applied to the US FCC for permission to launch direct-to-service satellites that can provide mobile services to cell phones from space. Deployment would begin in 2028. Filipino artist Elmer Salfor, who goes by the online handle SuperElmer, is suing the maker of Memes.ai and Memes.ai Studio for charging a subscription to his generation app that can output versions of his comics as memes, which have been used to generate advertising without permission.

30:27I think it would have been better if he sued the people using the memes as advertising, but we'll see. We'll find out. And Joel Freak noted this one on our subreddit. A member of the Legislative Assembly of New Brunswick, Canada, was addressing the assembly and read out the following. Madam Speaker, another concern relates to expectations. One of the dangers associated with creating advocacy offices is that citizens often develop expectations that exceed the powers actually granted to those offices. Here's a more natural flowing version of that section that reads like a legislative speech rather than a series of short points.

31:07Madam Speaker, one of my concerns with this legislation is the potential gap between what... I think the irony of him reading out the prompt in the video is that the speech was about rising electrical prices, which everyone assumes is a result of using AI prompts. Yeah, that was classic. That's going to go down in internet to lower. Oh, definitely. Well, folks, we end every episode of DTNS with some shared perspectives. Today, Scott pointed out a mistake that we made when talking about LG monitors automatically installing apps on Windows. Yeah, this was great. Thank you, Scott, for sending this along.

31:44He wrote, catching up on Friday's show, and after listening three times and reading a transcript, I think there may be some confusion about how the LG monitor app install works. Wenz said, if you don't opt out during the installation of an LG monitor, it may automatically install the LG Monitor app installer. And later, Tom concurred about the defaults and paying attention. I'm thinking there may have been some confusion here because there is no opt-out for this installation. I'm not including the option on Pro and Enterprise Windows. The LG Monitor app is installed automatically without notice or user activity when you plug in the monitor.

32:18So there's no default to change. You don't see it. Note that this was a choice LG made. They could have given They knew the option to install, like Logitech, for example, and then you could have set what to install with their companion app. They did not do this. The TLDR version of this is there was no notification of the application install, so no way for the user to choose what they wanted. As always, thank you for all the work the entire team does. And yes, I dug into that, and I found the source of the confusion. One and I were referring to a passage in the Ars Technica article that said, Microsoft allows universal Windows platform device apps to automatically install when the user connects their device to the PC if the user hasn't opted out of recommended settings during installation and is connected to the Internet and signed into the Microsoft Store.

33:10This is on a Microsoft support page for Windows developers spotted by Windows latest. That page reads, in order for automatic installation to work, the user needs to opt in to the recommended settings during Windows installation, be signed in the Microsoft Store and be online. So the chance to opt out that ours refers to, and hence that we were referring to during the show, is actually during Windows installation. We were under the impression that it was during the installation of your LG device drivers. But no, you have to go into settings in your device settings. And even after installation, you can find it.

33:54And there's a setting to automatically download manufacturer users. Now, this is something you might want to do regularly. You might want your device drivers to just install. And as Scott pointed out, responsible software makers like Logitech will ask you if they're like, you know, we're not going to use that automatically installation thing to put things that aren't entirely essential. So we'll ask you. And LG did not do this. So yeah, the upshot is this is even harder to avoid than we thought because you have to decide in advance while installing Windows to look at, to pass by the default settings, look at them and understand that someday LG might abuse the privilege.

34:33So maybe I'll make it ask me every time it wants to download an app and annoy me every time just in case LG abuses the privilege. So I don't know if this is much worse than I thought it was, but it certainly isn't great. I'll go there. This is much worse because LG is saying, you know what? You should have known that you were going to buy an LG monitor, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11 years after you installed Windows 11. You should have known. So you told us that we could do this. So we just did the things you told us we can do that LG. This is not cool. Yeah. Just ask most people, if they buy the brand new monitor, I'm going to say, yes, install the software that makes the thing work.

35:12I mean, have it be as crispy as it can be, But at least just just ask, just ask. And don't put a McAfee ad in that app after I say, yes, please install it. That was that was the thing that really got people upset. It's not just that they installed this app without, you know, in it because the app had some useful things in it. It was it was them pushing a McAfee ad through it. Just that that, as I said on Friday, was inexcusable. Absolutely. Well, folks, we want to know what you're thinking about. So if you've got some insights into a story, please, please, please share it with us at feedback at DailyTechNewsShow.com.

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