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2:29Huyen Tue Dao: This is the Daily Tech News for Thursday, September 4th, 2025. We tell you what you need to know. We follow up on context. We embrace you in understanding. Well, today, Andy Beach tells us why. the NBA, MLB, and others are investing in AI startups and cute smart bots, new Dyson products, robot lawnmowers, and more from IFA in Berlin. NBA should be investing in the cute smart bots, if you ask me. I'm Tom Merritt. I'm Wintwood now. Let's start with what you need to know with the big story.

3:04Huyen Tue Dao: IFA, IFA, is happening in Berlin. And like CES, CES in January. It's just CES. That one doesn't work. Uh, companies are scrambling for a piece of the spotlight. There are so many product announcements. This is, this is day one. So you're getting like press day was yesterday and everything's getting announced today. Everybody's walking the show floor. Uh, so we're going to highlight some of the product announcements from IFA that are getting the most attention. Uh, let's start with Philips, which overhauled its smart home lineup led by the$99 HueBridge Pro. So if you've got an old Hue Bridge, you might want to spend the$99 to upgrade like I have, like I plan to.

3:47Huyen Tue Dao: The new Hue Bridge Pro is matter compliant. So that means it's compatible with Apple Home, Amazon Alexa, Google Home, Samsung SmartThings, and can connect 150 lights and 50 accessories. Those are soft limits. You might be able to squeeze in a few more. It can also connect over Wi-Fi. So you don't have to plug it into Ethernet, which I know is anathema to some people. But, you know, if your system is a little inflexible, you don't have to have it right next to your modem. You can also use Hue-compatible lights as motion sensors when you have this bridge. The A19 smart lights got an update. Those are their flagship smart lights.

4:26Huyen Tue Dao: They now use 40 % less power. And all new Hue bulbs are Matter Over Thread compliant. That means they not only work with other systems, but they work over the thread communication system, which makes them even more compatible. And it means you don't need the Hue Hub. There's a reason to get the Hue Hub is now because you want that like fancy, like turn it into a sensor thing. But if you don't have one, you can still buy Hue compatible lights and use them. Philips also has a smart doorbell called Hue Secure that comes with or without a camera. First time they've been doing a smart doorbell. The Secure cameras are now available with 2K video and there are lower priced bulbs, something Philips fans have wanted for a long time.

5:09Huyen Tue Dao: I think they stole this from the Fear of God fashion line. They're called Philips Essentials, and they only cost$25 compared to the standard$60 you pay for the flagship bulbs. And the trade-off is they don't dim as low down, and you don't get as wide of a range of white light. But if that doesn't matter to you, you're saving some money. Finally, you can now control Hue lights if you have a Sonos speaker. They launched that Sonos partnership, so you can use Sonos voice control to control your Philips Hue lights? Oh, that's amazing. Okay, so I have a very simple question. I read this out from my husband, and we have Hue lights in many, many places in our house, but his hostility to the Hue hub was great and very fierce.

5:48Can we use the new, like, is there any upgrading that we would have to do with any current lights, do you know, to use the Hue hub? Or should it be compatible with any bulbs that we currently have in the house?

5:58Huyen Tue Dao: It would be able to control the current bulbs you have, but you're not going to get the new features. The fancy stuff, okay. Right, because you're not getting the new chip in the new lights and all that. Well, as long as we don't have to replace every single thing in our house, I'm going to make him buy one. Actually, I take that back. You might be able to use some of them as motion sensors. Yeah, that's right. That's just interpreting information. Yeah. I'm not 100 % sure on where the line is on that, but I think older bulbs might be able to work for that. Okay, I'm going to make him buy one.

6:27Yeah.

6:27Huyen Tue Dao: Yeah, do it. But robot vacuum maker Roborock showed off its first robotic lawnmower called the Rockmo. Because they could have been Robomo, but they went with Rockmo. The Roborock's spin on the usual autonomous lawnmower, because it's got satellite control and autonomous patterns and all of that stuff that you get from lawnmowers, is to add a small extra cutting deck with a blade specifically for edge trimming within three centimeters of walls. This is the biggest complaint for people who have robotic lawnmowers is they still have to go out and do the edging. Rockmo is promising maybe you won't have to.

7:06Huyen Tue Dao: There are three versions of the Rockmo. The highest end is the Z1 or the Z1, which has all wheel drive, so it can handle slopes up to 80 % and even clear small steps. If it's six centimeters tall or shorter uh it it can get up those steps if you have a really fancy backyard with steps i guess uh it is coming to europe in a few months and the u.s in 2026 we don't know prices yet all right i love robo rock we have a robo rock um mopper vacuum and i would love this and yes in the back where my husband tends to mow there was a retaining wall where wasps love to live so there was a hilarious afternoon where he had to ditch the lawnmower and come inside because they excited no thank you so we might just have to get the rock mo and let him it's the rock mo handle the wasp ridden backyard yeah sting this wasp rock mo don't care oh that'll be so mad i love it i'm gonna want to uh belton launched a wireless charger that caught a lot of people's eye the ultra charge magnetic charger 25w is its snappy little name uh it is a chi 2.2 charger so current wireless Qi standard.

8:14Huyen Tue Dao: And as you might have guessed from the name, supports 25 watt charging, so it can charge real fast. Has a kickstand. That's the big innovation here, as well as some passive cooling tech to prevent the thing from getting too hot while it's charging. And just to further distance itself from Google's Pixel Snap charger, which definitely seems to be the target here, it has a two meter long cable, so you can put it in more places. It is coming in October and And only cost you 39 bucks. It does come with a cable organizer too, which for those of you like me who just cannot stand long cables. Yes, that's just heaven when it comes.

8:48Huyen Tue Dao: Two meter long cable if you need it. Organizer if you don't. I love it. Into it. It's pretty nice. And only 39 bucks. Huawei is already on to the second generation of its Mate XT tri-fold phone. It runs Harmony OS 5.1, which is Huawei's own version of Android. And can be configured as a tablet in two different ways. That's what the Mate XTS has different than the original Mate XT. So you can fully open it and use it as a tablet, as you could with the original XT. But it's also configured the hinge so you can use two screens for the display. And the other is sort of a kickstand, almost like a laptop format.

9:28Huyen Tue Dao: The new Mate XTS starts at 17 ,999 yuan. I'm impressed. I mean, we barely have any trifolds out in the wild. And they're just like, hey, here's a version two. Here's what we can do. Already onto it. I mean, it's the S version, right? It's not a fully new version, but it's got a couple of interesting things. Eufy launched its S4 security cameras that have a wide angle 4K camera that's fixed, but then two 2K sensors that can move for tracking. So it can zoom in on a person up to 164 feet away. It can activate red and blue warning lights and a siren if it detects an intruder. And when paired with Eufy's home base S380, which is sold separately, it can do facial recognition to identify friendlies so it doesn't do it when you come home uh comes with a 5.5 watt detachable solar panel uh that can fully charge in one hour of direct sunlight one hour a day brings that battery up to the top and it's detachable so if you're like well i need the camera here but the sun's over here you can you can play with that the s4 costs 300 coming later this year.

10:32Cool.

10:35Huyen Tue Dao: You're not, you're not worried about people attacking you. No, no. We're Unify House, so, but it is nice to see. Sorry. Great. Cool story, Yuffie. I don't have much to add to this either. It's a pretty decent price, and I love that it's got the ability to do the tracking. I'm very curious how you set it if you don't have the home base you know is it is it uh manual alerts like you don't want to just going off with the siren every time you come home i'm sure there's a way to prevent that i do like the detachable solar panel though actually they can charge fully one hour direct sunlight that is pretty awesome i really want that for all my outdoor devices i want little solar panels for them uh switchbot launched a new smart home hub uh an e-ink art frame and two animated robot pets named Nico and Noah.

11:25Huyen Tue Dao: They just have slightly different looks. Otherwise, they're functionally the same. The Hub, let's start there, uses cloud models to interpret what's happening in your home and report it to you or let you ask general questions. So it's just supporting all of SwitchBot's smart home stuff. But you can say, like, where did I leave my phone? And it'll use computer vision to look for your phone and then show you so you can find it. The e-ink Spectra 6 display lets you upload art or generate it from a prompt. That's available in three sizes and fits in standard IKEA frames. And the Noah and Nico are bots that look like fuzzy penguins with glowy blue eyes.

12:01Huyen Tue Dao: They have wheels so they can move around. They can recognize you and your family members. They can respond to your gestures. They can react to your emotions. They can pretend to express feelings themselves and learn your household routines. Sad thing about all of these is no price or release date on any of it. All right, confession. I didn't have a response for the Yuffie because I got distracted looking at Nico and Noah. Okay, so they're adorable. I question where they look like fuzzy penguins, y 'all. They look like fuzzy bears to me. So I just... You think more bear? I think more bear. They have no beaks, Tom.

12:34There is no beak. You're right.

12:35Huyen Tue Dao: It's a button nose. Yeah. I took the fuzzy penguin from Jennifer at The Verge. But, you know, maybe I was overly swayed by Jennifer. They have a penguin, like, color scheme, color coding. And the little sensors in their bellies, I find actually charming. They're like buttons, but I believe those are sensors or cameras. You know, now that you've said this, I can't unsee the bareness of them. Maybe I just don't understand penguins. Maybe that's the thing. Oh, no. I think I didn't understand penguins. Your penguin understanding is unchallenged. All right. And finally, Dyson announced multiple updates and new products at EFA.

13:13Huyen Tue Dao: The Spot and Scrub AI robot vacuum can detect stains and better avoid obstacles while vacuuming and mopping. The V16 Piston Animal Cordless Vacuum can sense the floor type and then adjust its suction and brush bar speed accordingly. The Clean Plus Wash Hygiene Hard Floor Cleaner is a wet and dry floor cleaner that doesn't need a filter, so it's not as gross to clean out. And the Hushjet Purifier Compact HJ10 is a compact air purifier that's quiet, and it's meant for smaller rooms. It is$350, so a little cheaper, and coming September 30th. That's the only one they put a price on and everything else is coming in 2026.

13:52Huyen Tue Dao: They also had a bunch of updates to their existing line of stuff, too, if you're a Dyson fan. I am. And I actually really do enjoy or like the idea of a vacuum that can sense the floor type and adjust suction and brush bar speed. Because as a 40-year-old person who's been spent half their life in tech, I still don't understand on regular vacuums the little adjuster that I believe is height for carpet. I have no idea what to do with that. I would rather have something that knows better than me taking care of that for me. So yes, thank you, Dyson. I need that. I love that. I go back and forth on Dyson.

14:22Huyen Tue Dao: It's kind of in that Bose category for me where I'm like, it's kind of better sometimes, but I think it's overhyped, but it's also pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. We have several Dyson's. The one thing that actually I think is preventing me from widely recommending them other than obviously the price is actually the filters and any kind of replaceable parts. If you are someone who cares a lot about sustainability, you're going to be really sad. there's a lot the filters need to be changed frequently and there's tons of plastic and other very non-recyclable looking things i don't actually know um and they're expensive so yeah that that's the kind of one thing is like the over the long-term maintenance feels both expensive and not environmentally friendly so that would be the one thing i that's why i think even if it doesn't have a filter that feels good although then if it doesn't have a filter that makes me about how it's filtering out the gross stuff on your floor.

15:12It is filtering.

15:13Huyen Tue Dao: It's just keeping it in a contained box. Okay. And then you have to empty that, but you don't have to pull out the filter. So it's a little nicer. For the environment, I would do that. I would stand the dirty water. Okay. Sounds good. All right. Well, DTNS is made possible by you, the listener. Thanks to John Atwood, Pat, Mike Cortez. Welcome new patrons, James, Kevin, and Logan, and patron raises from John Joshua Jacob and Just Another Pilot. Oh, this is great. Got three new patrons at once. Fantastic. And thanks for the raises, y 'all. That's awesome. This episode is sponsored by Morning Brew Daily.

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18:34Huyen Tue Dao: All right, there's more we need to know today. Let's get to the briefs. Bloomberg's Mark Gurman says Apple plans to launch a search tool in iOS 26.4 in March. integrated into Siri called World Knowledge Answers. The current version entirely uses Apple's own models, though Apple is testing using a custom version of Google's Gemini running on Apple servers to summarize results. Apple is also considering using Gemini or Claude for a planner module. Gurman says Apple is considering adding it to Safari and Spotlight as well. The article also indicates Apple is no longer considering acquiring another company like Perplexity or Mistral.

19:17Huyen Tue Dao: Yeah. So there goes my Apple and OpenAI are going to merge. Yeah. It seems like they're just going to buy tech where they need it and plug it in, which is a traditional Apple way of doing things. It is interesting to see them plug it into their own models, not just buy Gemini, right? They're not just outsourcing it. They're saying like, we're going to use it to do the summarizing because it's good at that and not the searching, which you think it would be better at. But Apple seems to think maybe it's better at searching. I guess we'll find out in March if it ships as on time as Gurman thinks it does.

19:51Huyen Tue Dao: But it better work because all eyes are on this. The people who are willing to forgive Apple may not be willing to forgive them if they launch something and it disappoints them again. Yeah, only so many chances. I do think it's so interesting in this kind of hurt and zeitgeist of AI how usually I think it feels like the tech companies have very disparate products and they compete solely on their own tech. But the AI, this modern AI era kind of like really blurs the line where everyone's kind of leveraging everyone else's models but has their just own certain recipe where they take a sprinkle of this, a dash of that, mix it a few times, stick it in the oven, and then see what comes out.

20:26Whether that differentiates their own products from their competitors. Who are they using?

20:30Huyen Tue Dao: You know why that seems so odd? Why? It's a competitive marketplace. That's what a competitive marketplace looks like. A collaborative. We forgot.

20:42Huyen Tue Dao: At Samsung's Galaxy, but not unpacked announcement, the company announced the Galaxy S25 FE, aka Fan Edition. The Galaxy S25 FE is now available for$650. As usual with the FE, it's mostly the same as the flagship phone with a few compromises here and there in the specs. The biggest one being it runs on Samsung's own Exynos 2400 CPU instead of the Snapdragon 8 Elite. So performance may not be quite the same, but it should be close. Samsung also revealed new tablets. The Tab S11 series in two flavors, an Ultra and a base model. The S10 Lite, the Galaxy Buds 3 FE. And the FE there means you've got fewer sound drivers.

21:23Huyen Tue Dao: You've got a sealed in-ear design instead of the open design. And a few other differences. And, of course, it's cheaper. All right. Well, a couple of new pieces of software came to Apple devices. Instagram launched its first iPad-specific version of the app. Yay, finally! Instead of just, you know, doubling the size of the phone app. It shows a feed of Reels on opening and lets you organize posts chronologically. Comments and DMs appear in a column next to the images they go with. And Adobe is going the other way, bringing the Adobe Premiere video editor to the iPhone as well as iPad on September 30th.

21:57It will be free to use, but you'll need to pay if you want to take advantage of Firefly AI assistance. You can pre-order the free app on the App Store now. Yep, I just said that. And an Android version is in the works, but no ETA on that yet.

22:12Huyen Tue Dao: Yeah, I guess it's not pre-order. It's pre-reserved. A free thing. Indicate I would like to download as soon as it's ready. But it's digital, so it's not a limited supply. I find it fascinating that you can pre-order apps that are free. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, and also, I think it's notable that this is actually free to use, no watermarks or anything like that. But it's the AI that they that that's the like, if you want to use it the old fashioned way and edit like it's 2022 again, you know, fine. You can do that for free. But if you want to get modern with the Firefly, you got to pay. That's fascinating.

22:48That is huge. That is a big that's a big what do you call it? Separation or kind of diversion of their previous models, which I know people aren't fans of. It is so fascinating, too, because I used to work at Adobe and I think it's so because because a lot of their competitors recently, it's specifically in the video editing space. I take an all kind of excluding all AI for now. Some of their big competitors are totally free. Like I think DaVinci Resolve is one of the biggest ones that were eating their lunch. And so this is a really fascinating tack where, OK, we're going to compete on that pricing of the basic video editing functionality, which everyone needs, which our competitors already provide.

23:22But hey, the AI, which granted their AI is great and has been for a very long time, is the sauce that we're going to make money off of. Makes sense.

23:30Huyen Tue Dao: Yeah, it makes sense to me too. Atlassian, the makers of the Jira project management software, have agreed or has agreed to buy the browser company, makers of the Arc no longer being developed, and DIA, replacement for Arc web browsers. Apparently, OpenAI and Perplexity also reportedly looked into buying it but didn't. Atlassian co-founder and CEO Mike Cannon-Brooks told CNBC, it's really about taking ARK's software as a service application experience and power user features and then DIA's AI and elegance and speed and sort of svelte nature and Atlassian's enterprise know-how and working out how to put all that together into DIA or into the AI part of the browser.

24:12All right. Quick personal story. I used to work at Trello, which is another previous acquisition of Atlassian. And I said to my Atlassian friends this morning, hey, guys, you brought a browser. And then basically my friend said, yeah, we got a two for one. Isn't that a great deal? We got the browsers down at the browser store. And I replied with Labor Day sales are amazing, aren't they?

24:32Huyen Tue Dao: So yeah, Labor Day weekend sale two for one. You get Dia and yeah. Can you interpret what he told us here at BC? So the SAS part of Dia, or I'm sorry, the SAS part of ARCs, the design of Dia, that part makes sense. Yeah. What is the enterprise know-how? I guess just delivering it to the customers. Yeah, I guess. I didn't understand it when I worked there, to be perfectly frank with you. Fair. But it's in line with their mission to serve enterprises and to make everyone work together better. That's not the tagline, but it was something about making big organizations people work better together.

25:14Huyen Tue Dao: I definitely get the sense that this is not we're coming for you, Chrome. This is, hey, customers, we'll have a browser you'll like. And that makes a lot of sense just because their mission has been to acquire all these things and integrate them into a as seamless as possible big enterprise experience where you can meet all of your different needs. And I presume like, yeah, like there probably might be something about customizing a browser for a specific set of enterprise customers where it is tuned to what, you know, your internal knowledge and et cetera, et cetera. That makes sense. And it would feel less.

25:45Huyen Tue Dao: People would probably still use Chrome for things, but then use Dia or whatever they end up calling it, you know, as if it's a specialty application. Kind of makes sense to me. All right. Well, thanks to RW for pointing this one out on our subreddit. Switzerland, the nation, just released Apertus, its own open source large language model. It was developed by the Swiss Federal Technology Institute of Lausanne, ETH Zurich, and the Swiss National Supercomputing Center. It is completely open and meant to compete with LLMs from OpenAI, Anthropic, and others. Apertus is freely available in two sizes from Swisscom and Hugging Face.

26:26Huyen Tue Dao: Yeah, if anybody tries it out, let us know. Feedback at DailyTechNewsShow.com. The game Hollow Knight Silksong, the sequel to Hollow Knight, is out. And no storefront can handle the demand. This is wild. It even caused Steam, which never fails. Well, maybe not never, but rarely fails to deliver an error page on Silksong's store page. IGN staff were reporting trouble buying Silksong from the Nintendo eShop, the PlayStation Store, and Xbox. Verge was reporting the same thing. Indie developer Team Cherry sells the game for$20, and it is available, if you can get it, to download in Xbox Game Pass.

27:02All right, well, Tencent released Hunyun World Voyager on Tuesday, an open-weight model that can generate 3D videos from a single image. Each generation can produce 49 frames, which is about two seconds of video. It lets you move a virtual camera and adjust the perspective of the 2D image accordingly. Easers can specify camera movements like forward, backward, left, right, and or turning motions. Unlike other image generators, Voyager was trained to enforce spatial consistency.

27:31Huyen Tue Dao: Yeah, so that's a little different than your Soras or your VO3s. But there's some others that do this out here too. And then you have to sequence them all together because two seconds isn't enough. As we track the prevalence of fast internet on airplanes, worth noting that Amazon has reached a deal with JetBlue to provide gigabit internet service to its planes using Amazon's Kuiper satellite network. Don't get too excited. It's probably not going to be on your next flight because Kuiper won't start testing its service at all, not just for JetBlue, but for anybody until later this year or even early next year.

28:02And finally, Reuters says its sources indicate big Chinese companies like Alibaba and ByteDance still want to buy NVIDIA H20 cards, despite pressure from the Chinese government to find alternatives. There's also they're also interested in the possible upgrade, the B30A.

28:19Huyen Tue Dao: Yeah, those are inferencing chips. And they're like, yeah, we kind of still want those. They're pretty good. Those are the essentials for today. Let's dive a little deeper. All right. Well, the NBA, MLB and other major leagues are acting more like venture capital firms and they're investing in startups using AI to change how we experience sports. Andy Beach has more. Andy, thank you for joining us and bringing a sports story. It's hard to believe. I've told you before, I'm not the world's biggest sports fan, but I work with a lot of sports tech and sports media, and this one definitely caught my eye.

28:54Yeah.

28:55Huyen Tue Dao: And the crossover here is it's the sports leagues, but they're acquiring startups. They're doing what all the big tech companies do. Explain this to me. Yeah. So they're not necessarily always acquiring them, but what they absolutely are doing is they've set up their own sort of VC-like firms. They basically have set up their own monetary funds and they are actively looking for startups, particularly startups right now that are in the AI space. So they're more like Google Ventures than Google. Yeah, exactly. They are thinking of themselves. What they are trying to do is effectively seed the market and find the very early stage companies that are thinking about how to cleverly use AI in a very sports media specific scenario.

29:45Huyen Tue Dao: All right. Give me some examples here because I'm having a hard time. I mean, yeah, we all know about AI putting the yellow line on the football field and stuff like that. But I imagine we're talking about stuff well beyond that. Yeah, it goes in a lot of directions. And this was an information article that I found, and I'll call out some of the ones that it had in there. So there was Major League Soccer here in the U.S. invested directly in a company called CAMAI, C-A-M-B dot AI. And it was entirely around how to very rapidly dub a live stream into multiple languages. So without changing your workflow, without changing your pipeline, without having to create multiple proxies of the live stream, which always sort of either degrades the content or it increases the latency, meaning I'm now behind the broadcast.

30:39this company Cam AI had ways of dropping effectively AI translation into the workflow so that they could offer it in alternate languages here in the States or globalize the content for broader audiences.

30:52Huyen Tue Dao: Yeah, which, you know, with somebody like Sun Hung Min coming from actually England, but he's Korean to the United States and playing in the MLS, suddenly they're gonna have a lot more Korean people interested. And so if they could immediately flip a switch and all the broadcasts are in Korean, that makes a lot of sense. Right. And NBA had another great example of this. They were working closely with a company called OneCourt who are building haptic interfaces for blind fans to experience. So they're creating effectively a way that you can turn a touch device or a haptic device into something that reacts to the game so that you feel like you're following along more than just listening.

31:31You're actually feeling it.

31:32Huyen Tue Dao: That's fascinating. I want to see more of what that involves and how that translates because, you know, that is an aspect of the game that I don't think anybody just previously gave a lot of thought to unless you are visually impaired, right? When you're like, well, I wish I could, you know, when I'm in the stands, maybe I feel the rumble, right? But what about at home? That's great. Right. Absolutely. And it's not just the media side of the business as well. There's also all of the leagues have a lot of investment in player health technologies as well. So they're constantly looking for new things that either help the players monitor their health during the day and during the workouts that are going on.

32:15They've even invested in computer vision in different sports that help them better identify when a player needs to take a break in a game or even maybe sit a game out because they've pushed too hard over the last several games. And there was one that was called out in here called Somni that was really around sleep tracking. for it. So just as much as they're thinking about the content that goes out for the fan, they're thinking about the startups that are thinking about the player health as well, because in a way, you know, the player's health is part of the investment of the game. Ultimately, if they have a player that gets hurt and sits out, you know, it's bad for the player, but it's bad for the league and it's bad for that team as well.

33:03Huyen Tue Dao: Yeah, more now than ever. It's clear to me that the benefit to the leagues would be they get early access, possibly cheaper access, certainly friendlier access to all this stuff faster if they're an investor. But usually these sorts of things work two ways. Usually the company that's getting the investment not only gets the investment, which is a huge help, but also can get some other intangible benefits from the company investing. Say Google will share some data or something. Is there anything like that going on? Well, I mean, one of the biggest things is if you have a league that is investing in you, you effectively now have an inside track to being able to ask them at any time for access to content or games so that you can test in real time the work you're doing.

33:48NBA very famously has their summer league that they use really as a sandbox for these types of companies that they are looking at collaborating with where they may not want to interrupt a a production game during the regular season, but these off-season games that they get played become a great opportunity for them to allow someone to come in and test out an idea in almost a shadow production operation to see what the viability is. And that's incredibly important when you're in the middle of inventing a new product so that you can really tune it to the pieces because you have to, when you're not there on the court side or the field side, you're making some pretty wide assumptions as to what might happen.

34:36And this really very quickly helps you dial it in.

34:39Huyen Tue Dao: Yeah. So they are getting an in, not that any other startup could go to the NBA or Major League Baseball and say, hey, can I try something with your minor leagues? But you have to convince them to do it. And so if they're an investor, you've already made a lot of the argument because they're an investor. And yeah, that makes sense to me. That's exactly right. They're, they're, they're invested in, in basically you becoming successful. And so it's, it behooves them to, to give you that access. Are the leagues working together on any of these, or is it all like the NBA has their set and major league baseball has theirs, NFL has theirs, et cetera.

35:12So, so they all certainly have their own, but, but I know that they definitely talk amongst each other. Uh, and they're, they're all certainly aware of what goes on, uh, with, with one another. And that's very similar to sort of what goes on with the studios in Hollywood. So they're, they're all sort of aware and they all share some level of best practices, um, and, and tend to be, you know, relatively friendly, if not at arm's length with, with one another about how things are done. Um, but, uh, but they do each of these, uh, I haven't seen any, uh, and there were none that were called out in this, that were sort of like co-investments amongst multiple leagues working together.

35:51Huyen Tue Dao: Well, that will be interesting because, you know, it turns out all athletes sleep. So if somebody cracks the sleep tracking, you know, you might be able to get a pretty penny from the other leagues, even if you're not direct competitors with them. Andy, this is great. Thanks for helping us wrap our heads around this really interesting stuff and kind of points the way to some of the other uses of AI that don't get as much attention, I think. Yeah, thank you. If folks want to find out more about you or what you're writing, what you're working on, tell them about your home on the internet. Yep. So these days I've been writing a lot around media technology and AI on Substack and you can find me at enginesofchange.ai.

36:34Huyen Tue Dao: Excellent. Thanks, Andy. Thank you. Are you inspired to make a sports startup? it honestly those are these are some like i was really like nodding listening to andy like yeah like some of these are kind of actually the things that i think ai would be wonderful at and that that would really provide some utility especially as someone who is a sports fan my particular favorite flavor recently is american football and the injuries thing actually really spoke to me and as well as like taking care of yourself because of all the pressure they're under like yeah that stuff is actually really cool i don't think i start my own startup not that kind of person but I'll mess with one.

37:08Huyen Tue Dao: But you'll enjoy the fruits of the flavors. And enjoy, yes, enjoy the fruits of the flavors. I'm with it. Well, if you have feedback about anything that gets brought up on the show, maybe you're like, no, no, I've got a startup idea. This probably isn't the best way to get in touch with us, but you can do it on social media, at DTNSHOW on X, Instagram, Threads, Blue Sky, and Mastodon. Or for TikTok and YouTube, you can find us at Daily Tech News Show. This episode is sponsored by Morning Brew Daily. If you're anything like me, you want to stay informed about what's happening in business and finance, but you also don't have an hour every morning to sift through headlines.

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39:07Huyen Tue Dao: Yes, Andrew wrote, I heard you struggling with the new Authy app on Office Hours. I do an Office Hours live stream a couple times a week now. And I was complaining about how Authy changed how the logos look. Andrew wrote, I also think the new app sucks and they broke all the photos they originally added. I had to go to settings and accounts and edit the icons and account names. I guess no one at Authy has multiple Google accounts. Yeah, and I just haven't got around to doing that. So I'm sitting there looking at, you know, my email address, you know, at G and then dot, dot, dot. And they all have the same logo now.

39:45Huyen Tue Dao: I'm like, which one is that? So, oh, my God, I'm so scared. I don't know if I've updated Authy yet. And I do use Authy very extensively. So now I'm afraid of updating. Just be warned. Yeah. All right. Well, what are you thinking about? Do you have any insights for us? Share it with us at feedback at dailytechnewshow.com. Big thanks to Andy Beach and Andrew for contributing to today's show. Thank you for being along for Daily Tech News Show. You can keep us in business. You know, if you haven't become a patron yet, it's not too late. Do it now. Patreon.com slash DTNS. Talk to you soon.

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