Did Snap Blame AI for Layoffs? - DTNS 5248

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2:15This is the Daily Tech News for Wednesday, April 15th, 2026. We tell you what you need to know, give you important context and help each other understand. Today, did Snap lay off people because of AI or just to save money? Or why not both? I'm Tom Merritt. And I'm Sarah Lane. Let's start with what you need to know with the big story. That is correct. Snap CEO Evan Spiegel sent a memo to employees on Wednesday saying it plans to lay off about a thousand employees, which would be about 16 % of its workforce. It will also close around 300 open positions, so things that they were going to hire for, they will not.

2:55If you're an employee in the U.S. of SNAP and you get laid off, they say you'll receive four months of severance, healthcare coverage, equity vesting, and transition support. The move was positioned in his memo largely as cost savings. They say that they'll get about$500 million annually of savings. This also comes after an activist investor, Irenic Capital Management, which just bought a stake in Snap, had been pressuring it to reduce its workforce, saying, you're among the companies that overhired back in the pandemic. It's long overdue for you to cut back. Spiegel also wrote that remaining employees can use new generative models to help make up the gap.

3:36He wrote, we have already witnessed small squads leveraging AI tools to drive meaningful progress across several important initiatives, including Snapchat Plus, enhanced ad platform performance, and efficiency improvements in our Snap Lite infrastructure. So a lot of outlets are seizing on that to say, oh, he's saying it's because of AI. Snap now estimates that revenue rose 12 % in Q1 with estimated earnings of$233 million. So they are making money, but they aren't making the money at the rate they would like to. And tech reporter Alex Heath had got word that this was going to happen and posted on Substack yesterday that the layoffs were done to distinctly separate Snapchat from Specs.

4:18This is another thing that that activist investor wants to happen is to spin off Specs. And in fact, Specs, which is Snap's virtual glasses, smart glasses project, is adding people while Snapchat is reducing people. Specs is being positioned to be spun off as an independent company. And also Heath noted that a search deal with perplexity, which would have been worth$400 million, fell through. That might be another reason why they need to save$500 million or so by cutting back on the workforce. Sarah, do you blame AI or cost savings or both? I think it's a little of both. It's a little of both.

4:56The whole AI revolution, Snap is not the first to do this. also i think it's it's very interesting that specs because snap spectacles which they were originally called um which was gosh i mean when did they launch in 2018 um something like that something like that i i knew some people who worked there and and they were they were working on the project and in you know at the time i was kind of scratching my head like what is it who is this for well we're definitely in an ar glasses era so i think uh snap kind of doubling down on the specs version of its overall business is smart. It makes sense.

5:37I mean, are people going to buy them? We'll see. You know, what's the ecosystem going to be like? We'll see. I don't use Snapchat anymore. I did for a while. I was very enthusiastic and I just, I don't know, all my friends stopped using it and it just, it didn't make a lot of sense. So I haven't opened it in a while. I know that it's still extremely popular with the younger set. So I can't imagine that Snap wants that to go away, but you kind of want to put your horsepower where the money is. And that seems like the AR glasses version. Yeah. Would you agree? I imagine if they spin off specs that Evan Spiegel goes with specs, unless he stays CEO of both companies, which could happen too.

6:22Which could happen. But he seems more enthusiastic about specs than he does about Snapchat. Well, and I would assume that in this day and age, Snapchat was a very specific, special, fun, new company at one point. And now you can kind of just do all that stuff in a variety of different platforms. Instagram kind of does it. You've got TikTok. You've got a few others as well. And they would be remiss to not realize that and try to figure out, okay, what's the next big thing? Because I don't think you're going to get a lot of youngins getting on the Snapchat these days. It's like, yeah, the filters and ephemeral messaging.

7:17And it's like that just is everywhere now. You can get that anywhere. I don't know. I think Snapchat does have a decent young audience, but you're right. It's not growing. It's not adding more and more. It's a stable business, though. I think that's why it attracted that activist investor is they're like, this is the kind of business that private equity likes to take and run because they're ripe for growth through efficiency, right? And that's what they're saying is like, you need to reduce your workforce. You don't need all of these people. You're a stable industry, not a growth industry at this point.

7:50And that's kind of a normal phase for them. I don't think from reading this memo that Spiegel is trying to say, well, because of AI, we don't need people anymore. I think he's very clear to say, like, we are spending too much money. We have overhired and we need to become more efficient. I think he was throwing AI out there to his staff as like, hey, but, you know, instead of thinking about it as I have to do twice the work now, we've got all these new tools. They're getting better all the time. Seems like those might help. It certainly gives him a little cover, too. I think a lot of companies use AI as an excuse.

8:29But this memo, I was surprised. I expected them to be using AI as an excuse to cover the fact that they just want to cut back on cost. But he seemed to be more upfront about, no, this is mostly about cost cutting. Yeah. And the people that we keep, we would like you to use AI, but you'll stay with us. So Snap, as it's now called, its headquarters are in Venice, California, which is right down the street from where I used to live years ago. It's been a while. But at one point when it was a very hot company, it was like everyone around me was a Snap employee. And sometimes when we get these big layoffs, like not just 30 people, but thousands of people, I'll go to LinkedIn and just kind of test the waters.

9:15And sure enough, today, not people that I know personally, but people who are high up at Snapchat lost their jobs and are now kind of fishing around for like, okay, where do I go next? And I wonder about how something like that changes just, I don't know, the folks who are left. When you lose that many employees, and I'm not saying all the employees were living in West LA, because obviously it's a worldwide company. But I think it does change things a bit. It moves the needle. Yeah. I mean, we know directly because how many layoffs did we survive at Tech TV where suddenly there were empty desks and fewer people?

10:04That certainly is not unique to Snapchat, right? That's going to change things. I think because there have been so many tech layoffs, it is only getting harder for people to find another role. I was talking to a friend of ours yesterday about getting a role where she's like, it's the same role I had at Google, but they want to pay me a third less because there's so many other people out there looking for jobs. So the tech sector, employment sector for big companies is tight right now. And that's going to cause a lot of people to leave the industry or start their own stuff. It'll depend on the person, which one they choose.

10:46Well, we choose you. Yeah, I know. I choose you, Tom, but I also choose everybody who makes DTNS possible. Uh, everybody listening or even watching us right now. Thank you to one and all a special thanks today to that. Charlie dude, Chris Zellers, Chris Beneteau and Rob. Oh, that's Justin Zellers. I didn't want Justin to get upset. You said you called him Chris. Cause you were so excited about saying Chris Beneteau. I said Chris Zellers. Yeah. And then Chris Beneteau. I'm sorry, Justin. How many times have I said your name? Now you have to say Justin Beneteau. Justin Beneteau. And that Rob dude and Charlie O.

11:26And we all have to go get pizza sometime. Let's do it. Yeah, I'm into it. All right. Thanks, everybody. We appreciate you so much that we say all your names twice.

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14:41Since American Exchange Group will own the name Allbirds going forward, the Allbirds company is now changing its name to Newbird AI and has become a fully integrated GPU as a service and AI native cloud solutions provider. You might say, what in the heck is going on? Well, you might recall back in 2017, Long Island Ice Tea Company became a blockchain company. That didn't work out so well. It ended up being delisted on the NASDAQ. So, So, Tom, what do we think about this Allbirds pivot? This is a sign of a bubble, right? When you see a shoe company become a GPU as a service company. I'm not saying that new bird AI won't be successful.

15:26It very well may be. It's not necessarily doomed to become the Long Island iced tea company of AI. But this is the kind of thing that happens when the money is looking stupid. You know, Allbirds, I know people who really, really liked the shoes. And I also know a lot of people who go like, it's just like a shoe that a VC person wears. Oh, yeah. Very much. And I was sort of like, but if they like the shoes, I mean, is it a problem what their profession is? But it definitely – it gained so much traction and it had so much success that inevitably you're going to have people saying, oh, this is just some VC propped up company.

16:11Too much money. Well, apparently people aren't buying the shoes anymore. Yeah. Or fewer people are anyway. Yeah, yeah. So now this new Bird AI initiative, it's a real head scratcher. I guess the people who still work at Allbirds saying, all right, well, we sold basically the rights to this other company. What else do we do with ourselves? Give it a go. Yeah. I mean, I assume that the people actually working in the shoe business go to American Exchange, right? Yeah. And everybody else who's in more of the support roles and stuff stays with, I didn't look into it that closely. But yeah, it's definitely a, well, shoe business seems to be fading out.

16:59Let's cash that out while we can. What else can we do? Oh, it seems like there's a lot of money in AI. Honestly, it's not that different from what we're talking about with Snap and Specs, where you're like, oh, the growing business will be there. maybe we move to that one and then you know get a little more efficient on the other one in this case the efficiency was selling it to somebody else well and i don't know exactly how much storage space all birds had um or has i would assume a significant amount you know anytime you're moving like physical inventory you need space and so it's like if there are spaces now that can be filled with other things that can be money makers, then you already have a leg up on your competition who doesn't have the space yet.

17:46Yeah, yeah. Well, speaking of space, there is now space on the shelves for Netgear routers. Brian Blank and Motang both pointed out on our subreddit that Netgear, as we expected, has become the first router company to receive conditional approval for an exemption to that US FCC prohibition on importing routers made with foreign parts. The U.S. Department of Defense found that Netgear's products, quote, do not pose risks to U.S. national security despite being made overseas. Also, a company named AdTran has received an exemption for its home and small business service delivery gateway routers. They're a fiber optics company, but I think these are the things that go into homes.

18:28Both companies now have until October 1st, 2027, to put their new exempted models through the certification process at the FCC, which is required for import. And they will be certified not just because they have this exemption, but also to make sure that they're following all the bandwidth rules and all the things that the FCC normally does. Once they get that certification, that certification is permanent. So once they're approved, they can keep importing those models. The FCC prohibition is justified as protecting security, either the Department of Homeland Security or the Department of Defense takes into account the nationality of the company.

19:05Netgear is a U.S.-based company. Leadership ties to foreign ownership and plans to migrate manufacturing to the U.S. when evaluating the applications for an exemption. And so Netgear appeared favorably on those criteria. However, there is no mention of software in this criteria. So they're saying it's for protecting security, but it's not for protecting security of the software. Netgear could still have buggy software. That's not part of this particular part of the process. Netgear notes it no longer sources internet-connected components from China. It makes its routers in Indonesia, Vietnam, and Thailand.

19:40So those are considered allies of the US. I guess that's why they got approved. No news on TP-Link or Amazon-based Eero or Asus or others. Though, still, as we talked about when this was first announced, any previously certified routers can continue to be imported. There is, however, a March 1st, 2027 deadline on software updates for those routers. The FCC said there's more information on that yet to come. But Netgear said it is not subject to that March 1st deadline now that it has been approved. Okay, so even if sometime between now and March 1st, 2027, some software bugginess or anything else associated with Netgear came about, it would not affect the company.

20:24Well, with Netgear, they don't even have the March 1st deadline. So they're off the hook entirely. For TP-Link or Eero or Asus, they can continue to update their already certified routers until March 1st. They can actually continue to import their routers after March 1st, as long as they're certified. But it sounds like they wouldn't be able to update the software somehow. So that is murky at best, what that means. The FCC said there's more to come on that. I imagine they're trying to encourage all of these companies to get certified before that happens. But the bets are that TP-Link won't get certified because of its ties in China.

21:02And then we'll be curious to see what the U.S. does as far as updating software for TP-Link because TP-Link regularly pushes out fixes to vulnerabilities. So it would be bad if they weren't able to update those. And I'm sure somebody out there is wondering, well, if the U.S. Department of Defense found that Netgear's products aren't a risk to U.S. national security, but there are other companies who might have that designation as well. Why did Netgear have to go first? What kind of handshake agreement is going on here? Yeah, yeah. And it's not even that they found they weren't a risk to security.

21:38They found that they didn't have ties to China, basically. So the routers could be buggy as all hell, full of all kinds of vulnerabilities. I'm not saying they are, but that wasn't part of this process. They weren't assessing that. Well, we'll definitely be talking about this through March of 2027. That's for sure. Adobe launched Firefly AI Assistant, which lets you use text prompts to ask for things that the assistant can use in Photoshop, Premiere, Lightroom, Illustrator, and other Adobe apps to carry out. You can observe the process and step in at any point to guide direction, if you so desire, and adjust output.

22:18The final files are also fully editable by you. The agent can create tools like sliders to do specific things to your project. It also tries to learn your style as you continue to work with it. Yeah, I know a lot of people don't love Adobe, but they've really done a good job with these generative models to say, you know, let's make them useful for you. Let's make them I'm verifiably trained on copyright-free data. And let's put watermarks in everything so that you can track what was done through these tools. And now being able to say, like, I just want this, you know, I want fewer trees in this photo.

23:00And it pops up a slider. It's like, here, adjust how many trees you want. And you can slide the, you know, that was one of the examples they gave. This looks pretty useful. I agree. I agree. I don't currently pay for anything Adobe. No, that's not true. I'm actually paying for, gosh, what is it? I guess it's Acrobat Reader. Because I got suckered into some year-long subscription thing where I'm actually punished if I get out early. Anyway, subscriptions. Everybody's got feelings about those. But I don't hate Adobe products themselves. Um, I, I actually think that this is, this is, this is pretty powerful.

23:40And yeah, as far as what, what I know of what you can do, um, I, I think anybody who's a creative is like, Oh, this is good stuff. I mean, this really lowers the bar, the barrier to entry. You don't have to become a Photoshop expert. You don't even have to know which is best for the thing you want to do is, should I be doing this in illustrator or premiere? Uh, you just tell it what to do. And again, as long as you're subscribed to all of these services, right? If you get access to all of these, it'll just pick the right one and do it for you, which is pretty interesting. Yeah, it is. Well, we are interested in what you think about our show.

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25:46Now the quick headlines. These are the things that you will know and people who don't listen to the show won't know. And then you'll be able to say, oh yeah, no, I totally agree with that. I'm the smartest person in the room. spotify's book sale links launched in the uk and the us on android and letting you buy physical books from bookshop.org yeah spotify's getting into physical books ios gets that feature next week yeah listen to an audiobook when i have it on your shelf click and buy not bad i actually like bookshop.org as well they they work with indie bookstores and stuff so good nice chip Chip-making equipment maker ASML says that South Korea has now passed China as its largest market in Q1, thanks to a combination of restrictions by the U.S.

26:31on what ASML can sell to Chinese companies, because they make lithography machines, you know, the things you use to make chips, and some of their equipment can't be sold to China. So that lowers what they're going to sell into China, but also spiking demand for RAM, which is largely made by companies in Korea like Samsung and SK Hynix. Oh, that makes sense. IDC estimates that smartphone sales fell 4.1 % on the year in Q1. That's the first drop in 2.5 years. Samsung and Apple did buck that trend, though, rising 3.6 % and 3.3 % respectively. Yeah, they're saying this is mostly because of RAM, which I'm sure is part of it.

27:11I also think that people bought a lot of stuff ahead of tariffs, worried that the tariffs would make everything expensive, And so they dropped buying things at the beginning of this year. I don't know. I don't know. I think there's a lot going into this, but it is interesting to see Samsung and Apple buck the trend. And Samsung is still the largest phone seller in the world. Well, and both makers of very premium smartphones that are designed to, instead of having some feature phones, you've got the expensive one that's going to last you longer. Yeah. Yeah, that could play into this as well. Thanks to R.W.

27:49Nash for noting this next one. Google is launching its desktop app for Windows globally in English. So if you install this, it'll let you tap alt space and open a search box that can look on the web, Google Drive and your local hard drive. It's kind of like Spotlight Search on Mac, but for Windows and for Google. Google also launched a Gemini app for Mac OS that you can access with the option space keyboard shortcut. I looked for that in my macOS app store today, and I did not see it. But I'm very interested in trying that out. Don't worry. You'll find it as soon as the show's done. Too late for you to talk about it.

28:25Of course. That's the way that always works. Amazon launched a new Fire TV Stick HD that is 30 % thinner than the previous model, which was already pretty thin, and 30 % faster for$35, shipping April 29th in Australia, Canada, Japan, Mexico, New Zealand, the UK, and the US. Amazon also launched its Ember Artline TVs, which compete with the Samsung frame. Yeah. People really like those arty TVs. I'm surprised. There's a good demand for those. I also, I pre-ordered my new Fire Stick, my Fire TV Stick HD. Yeah. How could you not at that price? The price is right. It works great. It really does. Okay, cool.

29:05I guess we'll see a live with it on that. I think we will. Yes. Fantastic. Fantastic. The Trump Mobile T1 phone, which was announced in June of last year, so it's almost been a year since they announced it, has not yet shipped. Sorry, I don't have that news for you, but it has launched a new design and is still taking deposits. Where is the new design on an unshipped phone? It's on the web. Ah, got it. Okay. The European Union has released an open source age verification app that will be required to let users verify their age when setting up accounts in the EU. Meta keeps signing big deals for computing power.

29:41The latest one is with Broadcom signing a three-year deal that will start with one gigawatt of custom chips and then expand to multi-gigawatts later. A little bit more Spotify news. Spotify and several major labels won a permanent injunction against domain registrars and others to suspend domain names used by Anna's Archive, which makes media available regardless of copyright. Yeah, Anna's Archive, very famous and now going to be harder to find. Finally, or finally for me, actually, ByteDance released SeedDance 2.0 globally, unless you're in the U.S. Because they're fighting all the studios and copyright holders in the U.S., but you can get SeedDance 2.0 everywhere else.

30:23You might remember, you might want to rather, remember the name WAVE. That's W-A-Y-V-E. The UK-based autonomous vehicle company has received investments from not only AMD, but ARM and Qualcomm, following investments from Mercedes-Benz, Nissan, Stellantis, NVIDIA, Microsoft, and Uber. Yeah, they do a thing where it doesn't matter what sensors you have. I mean, you have to have some sensors, but it's not tied to whether you're using LIDAR or image sensors. It just is able to teach the car to drive based on whatever sensors you throw at it. And people seem very enthusiastic about it. So that's why they're getting all that money.

31:06Yeah. Well, we'd like to end every episode of DTNS with some shared perspectives. Today, we've got one from Eric, who has a concern over Amazon stopping support and cloud access for those old Kindles starting May 20th. Yeah, Eric writes, as a low vision user, the Kindle DX rescued me from having to seek out, not always easy, and lug around large print books. The DX works well, and I'll be sorry to have to give it up. I did have to replace the battery once because it would no longer charge, but after that, it has worked fine. The issue is that there is no easy alternative. They have never released a device with a similar format.

31:44A discount on a new device does me no good if there's no new Kindle device that meets my needs. Now, I didn't write back to Eric, and I apologize, Eric. I should have just responded to your email. But I was curious why you don't think the Kindle Scribe is the successor. That is the one that Amazon put out as a successor to the Kindle DX. However, it doesn't have physical buttons. So maybe that's the deal breaker. Otherwise, it's fairly similar to the DX. I, uh, somebody who, as far as I know, is not a low vision user was railing on this, um, on threads, I guess last week, you know, when, when the news came out, she was like physical buttons are just, people want physical buttons.

32:29Sometimes at least give us that option. And, you know, and I, I, uh, I don't use my Kindle Oasis all that often. Um, but there's some physical buttons, but there's also, you know, some touch stuff. And yeah, it's a very good reminder that people have – you can have a preference, but you can also have a necessity. And I think that that's where Eric is coming from here is like, this is a necessity. It really sucks if that gets taken away from me. Yeah. And Eric, if you have more info on this, please do write us back feedback at dailytechnewsshow.com. I just stole your line, Sarah. I'm sorry. Well, I'm taking it back.

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