Glasses and Robots Were Everywhere At CES 2026 - DTNS 5182

0:00This is the Daily Tech News for Friday, January 9th, 2026. We tell you what you need to know, give you the important context, and help each other understand. Today, we take a deep breath for another successful CES in the bag. And Jason, this guy right here, shares his thoughts on the state of smart glasses at the event. Yes, indeed. I'm Jason Howell. I'm Huyen Dwight Dowell. Let's start with what you need to know with the big story. Yeah, so I thought, and actually Tom thought this too, we were chatting in Discord prior to the show. You know, today is like, I think CES is officially still going on, but it, you know, if you've ever been, it starts to kind of clear out before Friday because even though Friday is a full day of CES, the show floor, people start packing it up pretty early.

0:50And so it starts to quickly fill like a shell of its former self. And so, you know, I came back yesterday. I think a lot of people leaving yesterday. And as a result, the news kind of environment, the news atmosphere is pretty much a vacuum right now. We've got plenty of news we're going to talk about, but I thought we would kind of spend this top of the show block talking about kind of a little bit of, I guess, a post-mortem. Because we've been talking on the show all week about the Consumer Electronics Show and the news that was breaking there and everything. And I kind of went into CES with a little bit of a mission on my end to really kind of get a better sense of what smart glasses means in 2026.

1:40And I only realized after the fact that robots were the big thing this year, apparently. If you were at CES, what would you have been looking for, robots or smart glasses, Wyn? I mean, you know, robots are cool. They are. but as someone who saw Terminator 2 when it first came out, which means I was way too young, I still have not embraced our robot future yet. I will embrace computing on my face. So, and I think given this list of things that you looked at, we're at a good time for smart glasses. And so, I mean, and I think it's given like the current state of things like assistance and AR, XR, I think smart glasses would be something that I, I mean, And they are genuinely something I'm interested in.

2:23So 100 % on the smart glasses, no offense to our possible future robot overlords. No disrespect, just beating on my face sounds better right now. Yeah, I mean, there were, my understanding, a lot of really cool robots to be seen. And I just realized after the fact, I'm like, wow, I did not have it on my radar at all. It's like I saw many robots as I was on my way from one place to another. But I never thought to stop and be like, oh, wow, that's cool. because I was busy the entire dang time. So yes, CES saw tons of glasses everywhere. And when I'm talking smart glasses, I'm talking AI glasses, camera glasses, display glasses, which we can talk about.

3:05But I saw them all over the place. And I think my overall general idea and consensus around this is that it's obvious to me that tech companies really do recognize this as a product category that they need to be delivering in some way, shape, or form. And I think a large part of the reason for this is just how successful the Meta Ray-Bans have been. And I think the Meta Ray-Bans have been successful outside of the niche of normal tech fanatics that might drive the success in kind of an, what is the word that I'm looking for, in an insular sort of way. Meta Ray-Bans have seen some mainstream commercial success, if not success, definitely mainstream awareness.

3:54And random everyday people that I know have been like, those Meta Ray-Bans, those are pretty cool. They're starting to warm up to it. And so I think that's influencing the technology companies to be like, okay, we got to be here. Saw tons of attendees wandering the show floors, the many different places throughout the week. wearing all different kinds of glasses. You know, it's kind of like the place, like, that you, you know, if there was a place where you could get away with wearing even the really nerdy glasses, like, that's the place to do it, right? And I also had a few glasses with me that I was wearing throughout my time on the show floor, as well as taking a look at a few.

4:38So we can just kind of ramble through these, and if you have any thoughts on this, you know, let me know. before I even went to the show, but I bring it up because it was at the show, the Rayneo X3 Pro. Rayneo sent me these glasses, so I'm kind of in the midst of my review of these. These are color binocular displays, Google Gemini integration, camera mic solution, so a centered camera above the nose bridge, and then, of course, onboard mic for all the contextualization of the world that sort of stuff uh kind of chunky though they kind of have like a safety glasses quality nerdy uh revenge of the nerds have you have we talked about that before yeah revenge is like really chunky we have the bridge the nose bridges is noticeably thick like yeah it's noticeably thick and it kind of the little cameras there could be mistaken for like a pair you know a little duct tape or something i think is what you mentioned last time we talked about yeah so So that's the Rayneo X3 Pro, which they were, you know, if you went to their booth, you were going to see a huge kind of thing that they had around that.

5:46I went to, have you heard of Even Realities? I think it's Even and not Evan Realities. But anyways, they had their booth. They've been around for a couple of years. I think my first time experiencing them was last year. And then this year they have their kind of second version. And these glasses are, they've got a binocular display, but the display is like vector style. So think like green, kind of like old school green monochrome monitors. Oh, like a Matrix vibe maybe a little bit? Kind of Matrix-y, kind of Battlezone, you know, all these different things for like the 80s and 90s and stuff. But these are, you know, there's no camera on board.

6:31It's just like really thin arms. They're meant to really blend in and be more normal glasses. Yes, 100%. All the compute in the little eartips behind your ears. And, you know, they aren't like ridiculously large behind the ears either. Like they are larger than they are in stem. But for the most part, they get hidden. You know, you've got some compute in the temple areas. But this is audio only. And so I'm going to be checking that out. I definitely saw people on the show floor wearing these. I really like that. That actually is so interesting just because I feel like the camera mic integration, I kind of assume personally was a given as a form of smart glass.

7:15That's kind of like baseline. Yeah. So to kind of move away from that, to be just voice. And also they do genuinely, when you pick them up, I was like, if it wasn't for the compute on the eartips. And again, they kind of almost look like, what is it? The bone conduction. Like they gave me like bone conduction earphone kind of vibes. Like if you're wondering for like a general size and shape and like look of what the compute looks like. Apart from that, it really does look like a regular pair of glasses. So they are extremely like low key. They're not intimidating. Like I would just assume you're wearing your glasses unless I happen to be speaking to you at the back of your head, which would be odd.

7:55So I'm so curious. That actually is pretty interesting to me just because I wonder if, you know, given that, I guess you said the baseline is kind of like camera and like what kind of space these even realities might have. And yeah, so those are actually really interesting. Yeah. Yeah, very cool. I'm super excited to play around with them. And that's the Even Realities G2. When I was at the Lenovo Motorola area, you know, I checked out the Motorola Fold, which is a very pretty device. But then I noticed they had prototype smart glasses there, also doing the green vector-style monochrome displays.

8:37So that's a thing. Very simple frames. These are early prototypes, so there's only so much I could do. Camera, mic, speaker setup, AI that integrates across platform, across Moto and Lenovo devices, which was one of the big announcements that they kind of mentioned is that their AI is integrating cross-platform in unique ways. And so these would fall into that category. Company called Infinix, which we have showed off on Android Faithful. I had a phone a couple of months ago. It's around here somewhere. I've got so much random stuff in here right now. And they were showing off their AI glasses and AI glasses pro, two different kinds.

9:17The AI glasses with just audio, the pro with a camera also. What was interesting about them, and I actually wrote about this on ZDNet, is that their AI glasses, which is their non-camera version, all the compute is in the arm stems. And the arm stems are removable. So when you get them at some point, they're going to ship with three frames, three like face frames. And then you just swap the arms into the one that you want to wear for that given day. You know, a couple of them are sunglasses. One of them kind of leans a little bit, I'd say, more feminine. One of them a little bit more masculine.

9:51And then kind of like a kind of anyone could wear them sort of, you know, third pair or whatever if I had to like categorize them. So that was interesting, you know, doing some different things there. Um, Rokid, which I think has a lot of display glasses and stuff. I'm really trying to, to get my hands on some of their hardware to focus on them. They were showing off AI glasses style, no screen, uh,$80 less than meta glasses. So definitely a meta glasses competitor, let's say, um, AI assisted, um, that was driven through GPT five has the camera, has a mic, you know, and I actually saw people on the show floor wearing those.

10:35So, you know, those were getting some play. And then tons. And I think this is the point that I'm getting at. Tons and tons of smaller AI glasses brands that I had never heard of before, technology companies that I had never heard of before with AI glasses or smart glasses of some sort, which just kind of tells me that this is a category that is totally blowing up. no clue how good any of those might be. Some of them probably going to be pretty horrible, let's be honest. But yeah, it just kind of seems like this is a category that even a couple of years ago, these kind of glasses that do these things were still really big and bulky and not achievable or conceivable, I guess is the word, for widespread mainstream acceptance.

11:26And now, I mean, all of the ones that I saw, even from companies that I'd never heard of, look pretty normal. And so it's an interesting kind of sea change for this. I like the idea that at the point where you're getting a product that has the anonymous, who knows what brand this is. Like in 2026, I'm not going to be surprised if I go on Amazon and see a bunch of no name, quote, no name or smaller. I've never heard of this brand AI glasses. They're already there. Yeah. Yeah, like it's almost a commodity. It becomes like commodified, like regular, like we'll call them dumb earphones, pardon the expression.

12:03Yeah, it's pretty amazing. And we always, we've mentioned this before, but to compare it to the Google Glass days when it was so niche, it was an easy joke. And it just took, is it 10 years, 12 years? How long has it been? 13, 14? Yeah, it's been about 13 years, I think. 13 years. So yeah, about a decade and a half for this to become widely accepted. And while, I mean, I don't know too many people outside of my, to be perfectly honest with you, and my husband, he uses just face displays rather than anything that has compute on it. So it become something that average people are buying that isn't surprising and that is gaining adoption.

12:42That is really fascinating. And it's, I mean, like, I think there's a few things like I wonder and just talk about some of the specifics of it. A couple of these have like the green vector style that you noted. And I know I'm so sorry. I forgot which of the glasses that you did try that you mentioned was a little bit distracting because of the HUD and having to like focus on it. And I'm curious. Oh, yeah, that was the Rainios. The Rainios, yeah. Yeah. I'm kind of curious whether things like the choice of display style, whether it's monocular, binocular, full color or this green vector style. Did you have any like feelings on what was the most ergonomic for you?

13:26Because I mean, I think what I've gotten out of conversation with you is that the tech is cool, but that we don't know what the true ergonomics of everyday real person use, like long term use of these things are. So I was wondering if you had any impressions on what you would prefer or what your, your, like if you were, I was like, Jason, here's like a billion dollars, build your own smart glasses. What would you pick for your display type? I don't know. That's still kind of hard for me to tell because I think I'm kind of learning all the different ways that it can be done. I think for me, it's less about whether it's monocular or binocular, full color or vector, whatever.

14:01I think for me, it's where does the view sit in my line of sight? Some of these glasses put it really high up so that your normal horizon view is unobstructed. And when you want to interact with it, you kind of look upwards. Others put the display right in the center. And when it's on, it's there. And when it's not, then you see through. That's kind of what the X3 pros do. That's why it's kind of distracting for me. Others opt for lower. There's a lot of variability happening right now. And so it's really hard for me to say. I will say kind of along these lines, though, I also spoke with the folks at Loomis.

14:39Loomis is the company, and I have an article coming soon for ZDNet, but we have the full interview on this week's episode of AI Inside. Loomis is the company that created the waveguide technology for the meta view, I think it's called their screened version of the glasses. So, you know, this company did the waveguide for the big kahuna, essentially. And they demonstrated for me, I went to their suite and we talked about the technology and they let me try on their prototype hardware. And I'm talking this sucker was put together with tape. That's how prototype type it was. And it enabled a waveguide 70 degree field of view image, which is essentially just like, I mean, it's massive, you know, for in a normal glasses kind of form factor.

15:31And I will say like as impressive as that was, you know, putting on normal glasses and seeing that huge of a screen in front of my eyes. Wow. Like when that thing was lit up, you technically you could see through it, but I wouldn't do anything that requires any sort of heavy machinery. Yeah. So, you know, I think there's a lot of lessons to be learned there. You know, you got to go, you got to go big and then you go, okay, now we got to scale back. Like what makes sense now that we can know we can do that. No, I know we're running. Oh, sorry. Oh, sorry. No, go ahead. Yeah. I was just going to say, I know we're running long on this and I know we've got a lot of other stuff to talk about.

16:09Just real quick. Xreal 1S and Neo. I've talked about that, I think, on the show before. I've done a full review. That was big at the Xreal booth. Also big at the Xreal booth. These are like display glasses, by the way. ASUS ROG Xreal R1 gaming glasses. These are 240 hertz refresh on the kind of, you know, the display glasses thing. Meant more for gaming. That's why the partnership with ROG, I got to try those out. That's really nice. I think gamers are going to be really into that. And then a company called Vitour has The Beast, which kind of similar to the X-Rail 1 that I was talking about just a few seconds ago.

16:50You know, display glasses, three degrees of freedom, pinning, electrochromatic, dimming, which makes it, you know, darker or lighter through the sunglasses, depending on your lighting scenario. I hope to get my hands on those soon. But all in all, lots of glasses at CES. And I would venture to say more glasses than robots, to be honest. It's just robots get all the headlines. Well, thanks, Jason. That was, I mean, it's really exciting to hear where the smart glasses arena is going. And, you know, regardless of whether you might be looking through a pair of smart glasses that have matrix style green vector or whether it's a big bright display in the middle of your face, We want to let you guys know that we see you because DTNS is made possible by you, the listener.

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17:52All right. There's more we need to know today. Let's get to the briefs. All right. Well, the FCC is set to approve a new class of higher power geofence variable power devices in the six gigahertz band. It will support outdoor use for data hungry applications like AR, VR, short range hotspots, automation and indoor navigation. These devices will use geofencing to avoid interference with fixed microwave links and radio astronomy. They can run at up to. oh good luck with this one this was a direct quote uh okay i'm stopping because there are a lot of abbreviations and acronyms yeah up to 11 deci are that i just say that just say the okay sorry so this is a direct quote so so so so these devices can run at quote up to 11 dbm megahertz psd and 24 dBm EIRP.

18:52I'm so sorry. Essentially, how much... So all of that to say that these letters represent essentially how much transmit power the devices can radiate, meaning how far and reliably they can send data. And that just means, quote, better, faster Wi-Fi and stronger connection to peripherals. The SEC will also ask for comment on raising power limits for low power indoor devices that some advocates say are overly stripped. Yeah. So definitely a lot of positive reaction around this. Wi-Fi advocates, of course, consumer groups. I mean, improving, you know, indoor navigation. Let me tell you something.

19:32I was doing a lot of indoor navigation while I was in Vegas, and it definitely needs some improvement. Yes. Golly. So, yeah, that would make me happy. And, you know, probably going to make Wi-Fi 6, Wi-Fi 7 more useful. all those challenging environments. Yeah. I mean, there's certainly a healthy dose of this that goes a little bit above my head, particularly that little blurb that I'm sorry I put in there for you. No, no, no, it's fine. I'm going to look this up after we're done and learn myself. But yeah, no, absolutely. And it's kind of funny because I feel like a lot of our everyday problems with a lot of this emerging smart tech probably has a lot, like some of these connectivities, I can't imagine.

20:15I used to be an electrical engineer. I should know this stuff better. But that, you know, I feel like we kind of put stuff out there and then we find, you know, the rough edges and that hopefully the six gigahertz band and the CO fence variable power will help smooth those out. Yeah, let's move them out. Well, Elon Musk's Grok AI system that's embedded into X, as everyone may know, has turned off its image creation tool for most free users after a pretty widespread reaction to an update that they rolled out first last December that enabled users to create non-consensual sexualized imagery on the platform and the service.

20:58The move to turn it off for the public is really, though, just a half step, as The Verge had written about. The company is leaving it intact for its paid users. Free users have noticed that they can no longer at Grok to access this feature, right? Because sometimes if you're using X, you at Grok and then you give a command and that taps right into the Grok AI. That was one way to access this feature, if you want to call it that. They still have the ability to tap the edit image button if they're on desktop or long press any image in the X app to access the undressing capabilities of Grok, let's say.

21:38In fact, replying to at Grok ends up with a message that gets like auto responded by its AI ends up pushing toward the paid plan service and basically say like, yeah, this is something you can do now, but you can pay and get access to the full service. UK officials are calling this move insulting. They're arguing that turning it into a premium feature does nothing to stop the widespread creation of non-consensual sexual imagery. I have no jokes. I heartily agree. And this is just heinous. Sorry. That's it. Yeah. Yes. 100 % agree. Whoever those UK officials are. Yeah. A number of XAI's safety team, by the way, reportedly left the company ahead of the release of this feature.

22:23So, you know, there was internal reaction to it as well. I have a very, very external specific reaction to it too. Okay. Well, big thanks to PJ Kreese in the subreddit for flagging this one. So Bose is retiring its SoundTouch Wi-Fi speakers and turning them into dumb speakers, a move the company first announced back in October of last year. Now, this is actually quite a good thing because now they have shared their intention to open source the API and preserve certain cloud-free features so owners can keep them more useful and keep them out of landfills. AirPlay, Spotify Connect, limited multi-room audio, and a slimmed down SoundTouch app will continue to work locally after its end of life.

23:07And Bose has shared API docs too, so third-party developers can build new tools and integrations on top of its hardware. I love everything about this. Yeah, I know. And it's always a good, you know, I always feel like when I see stories like this, it's important that we give it more than just a mention and we talk about it because I want to encourage this. I mean, you know, e-waste is a thing and it's a really important thing. And I saw actually Molly Wood, friend of the show on the network, Molly Wood, posted something, I think, on LinkedIn from CES this week about fast tech. And this idea that fast fashion is a thing that now has a lot of awareness and a lot of people pushing back on that because of the, you know, the many downsides to fast fashion.

23:50and fast fashion for those of you who might not be aware, and I'm probably not the best person to describe it, but it's this idea that like fashion and clothing can be, you know, the quality of which can be driven down to such a point that someone can be like, oh, I'm going to buy that shirt. I know I'm only going to get like five wears out of it before it starts to disintegrate into nothingness, but whatever. And then that ends up, you know, in a landfill very quickly instead of buying high quality, maybe paying a little bit more, but getting longevity out of these things so that we don't just, you know, so that everything isn't just immediate landfill.

24:24And Molly had pointed out on LinkedIn, and I just hadn't really considered it in those terms, how similar, you know, the two kind of angles might be. And are we getting to a point to where fast tech becomes something that we push against? And this is, I think, an example of pushing against fast tech and saying, hey, you know what, there are other ways to use this hardware. It doesn't automatically have to go into a landfill. Yeah, this is, I mean, and I'm sitting at my desk here and this is to Molly's point. And I feel like, especially as someone who is definitely, you know, gotten on the fast fashion is bad tech.

25:01I'm staring from my desk here and seeing a stack of MacBooks about a foot high. um i've got you know and and of course you know we talk about phones so i have a stack of phones which is not necessarily a fast tech problem but the point yeah but it's weird because this is our this is it this is our industry right and like we we joke about like planned op pluses but even just the drive for faster better stronger like less power more power whatever that is it is just the way that it, that is kind of the way that the tech industry operates. And I don't think that we've truly introspected it in the same way, as you said, that we have fast fashion.

25:41And so it's weird because I feel like the average person, while there is something very nice about always having the best tech, the newest tech, and it's so attractive. And that's like, especially us, you know, especially the folks listening to our tech enthusiasts, we need to figure something out that, you know, like I don't think most people will need a new version of every single device in their home and being able to do things like kind of keep things around and extend past the end of life of devices through doing things like this, like open source and kind of like turning a device from a premium consumer device to possibly educational things like having, you know, like maybe donating things to like, you know, schools or universities where people can learn like engineering software development or like kind of other product related things to these like older devices or even tinkerers like i feel like so much so many of us like us hosts and also our viewers are tinkerers so imagine if you could tinker with an open source thing and yeah like you know i'm usually pretty negative about generative ai for for for coding but like imagine especially taking kind of like the current momentum with with like you know generative coding and applying that to, you know, these open, open now, like more open, more tinkerable devices, and extending the use through that for people to learn, for people to discover, and then kind of either making their own things, making their home projects, or just having bright ideas for the next big thing.

27:10I cannot help but feel like, man, I wish more companies would do this. There's such an appetite for this, I think. There's an appetite for this. I can also understand, you know, the real rub. Companies want to push consumers to new products. And anytime you do this, you're basically saying, instead of buying something new from us, why don't you keep using that thing? Even though I would say it's the ethical, responsible thing to do. Companies are always pretty much driving toward their bottom line. And this kind of goes counter to that. But I do think that it's a good thing to open it up. I mean, there are a lot of people that simply aren't going to do any of this.

27:46They're going to be like, oh, it doesn't do this thing before. And so the company is still going to gain on those people, but there are going to be a lot of people that are able to extend the life of something like this. And that will probably be more, uh, more of a fan of that company because of this, you know what I mean? And support their future works and their future products and stuff. So I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm actually considering, I mean, as you said that I'm actually going to consider my next earphone poachers. I think I'm going to go back to Bose because I want to support companies that invest in this.

28:17So there Yeah. Oh, yeah, Bose. Yeah. All right. So good on you, Bose. Finally, some quick headlines that are just good to know if you want to understand the news coming in the future. LG Energy Solution, Korea's largest battery maker, saw a deep drop in its Q4 earnings, which many see as a reaction to the rollback of subsidies in certain markets and an overall slowing in demand for electric vehicles. Yeah. Kind of not too surprised about that. Yesterday, Rob Dunwood on the show asked for a HIPAA-compliant version of ChatGPT Health. And that was on the show. And one day later, OpenAI announced ChatGPT for health care.

28:58It's a GPT-5-powered HIPAA-compliant version that can plug into hospital systems and that sort of stuff. DeepSeek is about to launch its V4 model, according to a report from The Information, with a release around the Lunar New Year in February. Ooh, very auspicious. I'll be very curious to see if they can kind of capture lightning in a bottle again. I'll be very interested in that. YouTube is giving viewers control to block shorts from search. That's going to give them the ability to focus their results on longer form videos or conversely on only shorts, if that's what you want to look for, using new filters that now include format, popularity, and upload date.

29:40And big thanks to Motang in the subreddit for that one. Oh, my God. Finally. Thank you. Finally. We needed this ages ago. Microsoft is turning Copilot into a shopping engine with Copilot checkout for in-chat purchases and Shopify-powered brand agents that can sell in a brand's voice. Clarity analytics and conversion insights are also included with the new agent experiences. Yeah, they're all going in this direction. The European Commission is considering labeling WhatsApp a, quote, very large platform. That's kind of funny when you think about it. But what this would do is it would force Meta's app to take more legal responsibility for policing illegal and harmful content across its network.

30:21An understatement that probably is actually very powerful. I like it. Meta has committed to more than six gigawatts of nuclear power deals, making it one of the biggest corporate buyers of nuclear energy for its AI data centers, surprisingly. By the way, that is enough to power around 5 million homes. Oh, my goodness. My golly. Oh, golly gee whiz. Well, guess what? The holidays are over, but if you need a little something for yourself or maybe for a co-worker or colleague that, you know, you just didn't quite get to over the holidays, we over here at DTNS have dozens of ideas at dailytechnewsshow.com slash store.

31:00We got mugs, t-shirts, mouse pads, all with our new DTNS logo. Great gifts always. And of course, a great way to support the show. We end every episode of DTNS with some shared perspectives. Today, STIM is clearing up any possible office co-pilot naming confusion. I'm so sorry. I think we need to remember that in naming confusion, it's pronounced stim, I think. Ah, that's right. Yeah, you got to go back and forth. Sorry, Stim. Sorry, Stim. There you go. Okay, there you go. I got it this time, Stim. I got your back. All right. Well, Stim writes, Tom, I don't see what's confusing about the office slash co-pilot thing.

31:35It's just as straightforward as when the version of email from Microsoft that you accessed on the web was called OWA, which stood for Outlook Web Access until it was renamed to Outlook Web App. And then OA was briefly used to refer to Office Web Apps, which was a separate server locally on premise back in a time frame before M365, which now has a web-based version of apps like Word, Excel, PowerPoint, which are, of course, actually Office Web Apps, except for when Microsoft calls them office apps on the web or online versions of office or now co-pilot. And the Outlook that you access on the web was renamed to Outlook on the web instead of OWA back in 2015, even though much later versions of Exchange email server you accessed, even though through much later versions of Exchange email server, you accessed your employer's version of email on the web by going to owa.nameofmycompany.com in your web browser.

32:29And now Outlook has a clear meaning it's either the desktop version of the app that we all know and semi loather love sometimes now called outlook classic the new outlook for desktop the web version of outlook or the outlook mobile app in ios and android flavors see simple if there's one thing that you can count on one thing that stays the same it's microsoft's desire to change the name of everything kind of Google too actually do they all do this? I mean Google totally does this and they reuse acronyms in ways that are just confusing naming things is hard, this is like a joke in software development circles but come on now, there are more words in the English language and a few more letters in like the Roman alphabet come on, come on, come on well, what are you thinking about Do you have a simple explainer for us?

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