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4 Jun 2026 · 25m · 12 chapters

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Google Brings a Powerful Multimodal LLM to Your Laptop - DTNS 5283

In short

This DTNS episode (June 4, 2026) centers on Google’s open-source Gemma 4 multimodal LLM release, including Gemma 4 12B, which can run locally on laptops with at least 16GB RAM/VRAM. It has 11.95B parameters, an Apache 2.0 license, a 256,000-token context window, and claims efficient multimodal processing via multi-token prediction drafters (audio/video without large dedicated encoders).

Key claims

better local privacy and lower cost; suitable for agentic workflows; not ideal for very large data ingestion (e.g., >30s audio or >60s video).

Notable examples

running agents on-device; trying via LM Studio or downloading from Kaggle/Hugging Face; 18GB model size.

Guests

none—hosts are Tom Merritt and Jen Cutter.

Written by AI. May contain mistakes.

Chapters

0:39

Google's Gemma 4 Overview

A detailed discussion on Google's Gemma 4 model and its capabilities.

“Shipping, billing, admin, payroll, marketing.”
3:14

Google's Gemma 4 Overview

A detailed discussion on Google's Gemma 4 model and its capabilities.

“Let's start with what you need to know with that big story.”
6:17

AI in Legal Work

Exploring the use of AI models in legal professions and potential limitations.

“It takes up about 18 gigabytes of space.”
8:06

Future of Local AI Models

Discussion on the evolution and implications of local AI models in various fields.

“It's getting there and it's getting open source.”
14:00

Debating Nintendo's Design Choices

Explore the complexities of Nintendo's design decisions regarding repairability.

“another model number probably only going to be available in the in the european union yeah but Like that part bummed me out because I'm thinking like, well, what if I like sold mine and imported one?”
17:24

Waymo's Energy Storage Agreement

Learn about Waymo's partnership for recycling EV batteries into energy storage.

“energy storage company called btu i'm sorry b2 like the number two b2u to put old waymo car batteries into grids to store energy.”
19:56

Apple's Smart Glasses Roadmap

Discuss the shift in Apple's strategy for its smart glasses and headset models.

“Well, I feel like the story here to me is energy storage is actually skyrocketing.”
22:18

Live With It Show Launch

Announcing the launch of the Live With It show as a standalone entity.

“Ternus is thinking is Apple Vision Pro way too clunky.”
25:21

Tech Updates: Google & Amazon Innovations

Get quick updates on Google Photos and Amazon's new warehouse robots.

“It's 40 % smaller and it's so sleek and it's so cool and I haven't even got to the new features yet and I love it.”
28:02

Amazon's New Autonomous Robots and Job Impact

Learn about Amazon's next-gen robots and their effects on warehouse jobs.

“Amazon announced the next generation of its Proteus Autonomous Warehouse Robots, which can move beyond the loading dock to work in the entire facility.”
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29:36

Legislation and Synthetic DNA Concerns

Explore the call for legal requirements on synthetic DNA screening.

“We end every episode of DTNS with some shared perspectives.”
30:58

Listener Feedback and Insights

Hear listener insights on gender classification of robots and other feedback.

“You can become a patron of DTNS itself at patreon.com slash DTNS.”
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2:48Jenn Cutter: This is the Daily Tech News for Thursday, June 4th, 2026. We tell you what you need to know, give you some context, and try to help each other understand. Today, Google just released a powerful model you can run on laptops with 16 gigs of memory. Yeah, so not your Chromebook, but still, a lot of laptops be able to run that model locally. It's an interesting release. We're going to talk about it. I'm Tom Merritt. I'm Jen Cutter. Let's start with what you need to know with that big story. So yeah, Gemma 4 is the current open source models from Google. This is different than Gemini. It's a clever Gemma leads to Gemini.

3:30Jenn Cutter: It's kind of like Android versus, you know, the Google version of Android. But Gemma 4 has released four models. Two of them you pretty much need to run in a data center or a really beefy desktop, like one of the ones you could buy from NVIDIA or Microsoft. And then two of them are meant for mobile, but they're not as capable because they're meant to run on very small machines. Gemma 412b just got released now, and it can run on any laptop with at least 16 gigabytes of RAM or VRAM. So like we said, not your smallest laptops. And it is released under the Apache 2.0 open source license. So you can get it for free and do what you want with it.

4:11Jenn Cutter: But it is more capable than the two Gemma 4 models previously released for mobile. And it could still be run locally without you having to buy a super expensive hardware. It has 11.95 billion parameters and uses half the memory footprint of the higher model, 26B MOE, but benchmarks pretty close, almost as capable. And it has a rather large 256 ,000 token context window. So you can put some beefy stuff into it, some big company manuals or such. It can handle agentic workflows. It can do multi-step reasoning. And it's multimodal using a new approach called multi-token prediction drafters. That takes unused processing cycles to predict future tokens well enough that it can speed things up and make it more power efficient.

5:03Jenn Cutter: The multimodal stuff is also really impressive. audio can just go right in. They figured out a way to take audio and not have to use a dedicated encoder. And with video, they're not using a fully dedicated encoder. They're doing what they're calling a module that translates it really fast. So you can do audio and video without having to have those big encoders that you have in the larger models. VentureBeat broke it down saying it's a great choice if you need strict data privacy because it's running on your machine or cost savings because it's running on your machine, or if you have autonomous agents working with real world inputs.

5:41Jenn Cutter: They just want to see or hear the world around them in their location. It's probably not the best choice if you need to access really large amounts of data. Maybe you've got a company database you need to regularly hit, or you need to ingest more than 30 seconds of audio or more than 60 seconds of video at a time. You're going to need those bigger models if you have bigger needs like that, but it's going to be good for a lot of things, especially people who just want to run some agents on their laptop, OpenClaw-like. You can try it in the cloud if you want to try it there first, LM Studio, Google AI Edge Gallery, a few other places have it.

6:14Jenn Cutter: Or you can just download it from Kaggle or Hugging Face and run it locally. It takes up about 18 gigabytes of space. And by the way, just in time for Mac users, Google released AI Edge Gallery from macOS. So it'll make it easier to run those Gemma models locally. Okay, now that we got the briefing on it, Jen, how does this sound to you as something that, you know, saves you money, saves you cost, runs locally, can do more things for you? And it's open source. Yeah. Oh, I'm really surprised that it takes up about 18 gigs. I figured this was going to be huge, massive, but it makes sense if you're running this on a laptop and, you know, hard drives are expensive.

6:51So you can use stuff that you already have to get this going. This sounds like a great way to get into using these kinds of tools because you'll have it. You can do this. You don't have to worry about burning tokens and burning your wallet. I had actually reached out to a couple of lawyers, not game devs this time. I reached out to lawyers to ask, hey, so other than the lawyers who are getting sanctioned, have you added any AI models into your work? Do you guys have, again, off the record, do you have any local things that you're running? And I was surprised by the answer. A lot of them are using AI right now, but I don't think this will quite meet their needs because of the large database thing because some researchers and paralegals are like yeah i've been using ai to search use the apis to gather tons of case backgrounds like it's not writing a single word but it can search and do all this stuff that they used to have to do manually per database where they can send an agent to be like listen just hit these three send me everything and then i will double check before i forward it on up So this is close.

7:58I know that for lawyers, they would be thrilled to not even have any kind of research go through a cloud. But it's getting there. It's getting there and it's getting open source.

8:07Jenn Cutter: I wonder, I wish I knew more about their individual use cases, which, of course, we wouldn't be able to find out because of confidentiality. But it feels like if they're just searching databases, this could do it. If they're ingesting things from those databases, which they might well be, then they'll probably run past the token window. But I'm curious if this would work in some particular use cases. And it's worth pointing out too, by the way, this is not the first model to be able to do this kind of thing locally. What Google is arguing is this is the best model to be able to do this locally.

8:49Jenn Cutter: It can do almost what you would get from a cloud-based model on your laptop because of these two innovations of being able to ingest audio and video without needing the encoders, being able to do that token prediction. That is also the kind of stuff that, because it's in an open source model, you're going to see other models start to mimic this and go, oh, well, let's do that too. That is more efficient. And that's actually good for everybody because now you're doing more things on local machines. That's better for privacy. That's better for power efficiency. Yes. Is this something you would use, like even just to play with?

9:24Is this something that you would test out?

9:27Jenn Cutter: Yeah, I plan to, actually. I didn't have time this morning to do it. But yeah, I would like to run this. And like all things like open claw or anything like that, you do have to make sure that you are putting in the guardrails and know what you're doing. And I don't always know what I'm doing. So I'd probably limit what it is able to do. But I would like to try it out. It seems like the kind of model that would be worth playing around with. at least, you know, just put it through at paces and see what it could do. I don't know if I would end up relying on it as an everyday machine process, but you never know.

10:03Our use cases are slightly different.

10:06Jenn Cutter: I'm also really curious what the next version of this is. Like the open source community gets their hands on it and then says, well, Google didn't do this, but they could have, let's do it, you know, and I want to see what they come up with too. DTNS is made possible by you, the listener. Thanks to Marcus, Philip Shane, Paul Boyer, and D. Laser. Thank you all.

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13:17Jenn Cutter: All right, there's lots more to talk about. Let's get to the briefs. Nintendo posted on its website that it is implementing measures to comply with EU requirements for replaceable batteries set to go into effect February 18th. Nintendo Switch 2 models with replaceable batteries will have unique model numbers and the letters OSM on the package. Nintendo did not say when it would release the new model. you also saw some skepticism like well they could just keep it below a thousand cycles and this and that and then nintendo very clearly stated if you read closely like this is the kind of compliance that will be replaceable i don't know if it'll be like a slide out on the back replaceable you might have to do some screws uh but it'll be replaceable it also because they're giving it another model number probably only going to be available in the in the european union yeah but Like that part bummed me out because I'm thinking like, well, what if I like sold mine and imported one?

14:12But I'm like, I don't know if I want to deal with international stores because Nintendo is really picky about that. But there was a lot of debate about the slide out versus screws because it needs to be like accessible to the modern average consumer. And Nintendo loves, you know, the triangle screws.

14:29Jenn Cutter: Yeah, that's a really good point. You can get like you can order from iFixit. You can order from a whole bunch of places to get the triangles. But like, is that going to meet the requirements? I'd like to think Nintendo's lawyers have thought of that and will decide how to implement that for the modern average consumer. I don't see the benefit in Nintendo making it difficult to do this. So I don't know why they wouldn't use Phillips head screws if they can. I could see them making an argument. I could see engineers making an argument of, if we do the slide out, then it's going to get thicker and we have to compromise this design feature and that design feature and the screws might be necessary for that.

15:11Jenn Cutter: But I don't see Nintendo just being obstinate and saying, well, you're making us make it replaceable, but we're going to make it hard. They would rather just do the design the way they would want to do, but if they have to make it replaceable, I don't see them being obstinate necessarily. it's it whatever nintendo does i feel like will be a compromise of its design and so they're going to try to compromise the design less i don't know the triangle screws make the design any better but maybe there's a supply chain or cost yeah i figure i i will go on the record with this i would not be surprised if they keep the screws but for those specific models they just be like here here's the tool you're ready to go they could package it in yeah yeah because like switches are designed for children.

15:54Children will mess with things that they should not mess with. I think it is likely that a parent will hold on to that screwdriver and make it so the child cannot remove it.

16:02Jenn Cutter: It might be cheaper if they already have, you know, a bulk purchase of triangle screws to just buy a bunch of screwdrivers and package them. But I think it also might be just as like, it wouldn't be worth the cost savings if you have to package the screwdrivers in there. but again i i don't think nintendo or any company does this because they're mad at you i think i think they when they make these things non-repairable it's because they think it's a better design uh most of the time that's why there's there's some planned obsolescence that that kind of fits in in as a secondary consideration uh but generally i think it's exaggerated how how much of a priority that is and certainly in this case when they have to comply with a law why why do that why why risk the eu coming and saying actually that doesn't qualify when it's very easy to just put some different screws in there and it would also nintendo and batteries nintendo's batteries are insane i could turn on my ds and dsi and 3dis right now and i i charge them like once every two years just to make sure they're still good uh pretty solid uh switch is going well though my usual psa if you have a sony psp especially one of the first editions please go find it those batteries are swelling it's dangerous go find your psp good public sir psp psa from gen cutter speaking of batteries waymo announced a supply agreement with an energy storage company called btu i'm sorry b2 like the number two b2u to put old waymo car batteries into grids to store energy.

17:41Jenn Cutter: B2U has a headquarters in Lancaster, California, but they also have energy storage facilities in California, elsewhere in California and in Texas. Waymo anticipates hundreds of megawatts of storage capacity. Might head B2U's way as a part of this deal. They didn't get more specific than that. B2U, not the only one doing this. Redwood Materials and a few others are building businesses around recycling old EV batteries for energy stories. And Waymo's making more trips, meaning it's going to go through more batteries. In fact, a study from MIT scientists published in the journal Transport Findings found Waymo rides are growing by about 15 % a month.

18:20Jenn Cutter: Energy storage itself is a growing market. The world's largest battery maker, CATL in China, expects energy storage to make up half its global sales by 2030. Right now, it's about 25%. Five years ago, it was 2%. CATL started their business thinking they were just going to sell batteries to EV makers. And now they're looking at half its business being selling to storage makers. So you can see why Waymo is like, hey, these batteries are still good for energy storage, even if they get to the point where they're not necessarily reliable for EV propulsion. Let's make a deal that uses those. And that's good for us too, because they don't end up in a landfill.

18:55Jenn Cutter: They get use out of them. They keep carbon out of the air. If you're curious, China is the largest battery energy storage market right now, followed by the United States and then Europe. This takes away one of the arguments about how EVs are wasteful because you throw out the batteries. I mean, yeah, I don't even want to go down that rabbit hole because so many people skew the data one way or another based on whatever their agenda is. But yes, it's good. Forget whether you're trying to make one of those arguments or not. But taking a thing that would otherwise be wasted and using it for something, that's great.

19:32Jenn Cutter: Being able to use solar and wind energy and store that energy, that's great. So, yeah, I don't see a whole lot of downsides to this story. Yeah. And then going from 2 % to 25 % of sales to likely over 50, that's incredible. What a market. Boy, like a bunch of geniuses there who were really ahead of the curve. Well, I feel like the story here to me is energy storage is actually skyrocketing. And granted, when you're going from zero to something, it always is a high percentage. But this is a growing market. We are getting more companies creating energy storage, and that's a very good thing. tf securities analyst ming chi quo posted on wednesday that the apple headset and glasses roadmap from a year ago has been reduced to two smart glasses models an audio oriented pair is expected by the end of next year and fully augmented reality glasses by 2030 incoming ceo john turnus made the calls before he was named as the successor yeah there's a lot of headlines around this today, which is why we're discussing it.

20:44Jenn Cutter: And it takes a little more explanation than one or two lines. But frankly, I don't think this is the end of the Apple Vision Pro. It seems like they're continuing to make it, but it is the end of the Apple Vision Air. We're not going to see that cheaper version that we thought we were going to see. And it's interesting also, I think, just as a person who follows technology news, to see Ming-Chi Kuo say, hey, I published that roadmap a year ago, it was accurate then, but they changed their minds. So it's not that that leak was wrong. It's that the company actually changed its strategy. And one of the people that changed that strategy is going to be the CEO.

21:23Jenn Cutter: So it's probably going to stick. Yeah, I think that companies like not just Apple, but a lot of companies thought that getting those lower end models out there would be like a great on ramp to get people to buy the more expensive top end ones. And maybe they're just not seeing that conversion. I know there's some reporting around it out there, but I'm curious why Apple Vision Pro ever even made it. What was the thinking behind that? Because it was not as Apple-y as these kinds of smart glasses, which if they do it right, will be the kind of thing where you say, oh, you know what? I really liked the meta-ray bands until I saw the Apple models, you know, and now the meta Ray-Bans look clunky to me.

22:07Jenn Cutter: And that's usually how Apple does it. Like, I love the Palm Trio. I love the BlackBerry. Oh, wait, I just saw the iPhone. It's a whole different situation. I don't know what that looks like, but maybe that's what John Ternus is thinking is Apple Vision Pro way too clunky. That's not an Apple style product. Yeah. Like the features for these kinds of glasses seem relatively set so far. and how it's competing on style. What design or brand? How pretty is it? I do remember the iPhone launch being like, oh my goodness, that is so pretty. And we couldn't get the iPhone one in Canada. I had to get someone from the US to like smuggle it up for me because I just, I wanted it pretty bad.

22:43Jenn Cutter: Yeah. Just like the replaceable battery Nintendo Switch. Come to Canada. We need those rules too. Somebody from Germany, please contact Jeff. All right. It is coming. We're coming out of graduation season. Dads and grads that time of year. And we'd like to congratulate our own graduate, Live With It. The show that reviews products we actually live with and use is becoming its own show. We already have given it its own YouTube channel, and it now has its own Patreon. It's no longer a little bonus segment in DTNS. It is spreading its wings and becoming its own show. So if you would like to be one of the first supporters of Live With It, you know, be on that like I was with Live With It from the beginning, head to patreon.com slash livewithit and become a brand new supporter of our brand newestest show.

23:40Jenn Cutter: All right, we got some quick headlines. These are just the kinds of things that are good to know. Reviews for the Aura Ring 5 are out and reviewers generally praise the lighter, sleeker form factor, as well as some of the health tracking improvements. The Oura Ring 5 starts at$400. Shipping now. Yeah, all the reviewers were like, it's so small. Hey, it's Paige from Giggly Squad, and I want to let you know that if you want the newest and hottest beauty products, you have to go to Sephora. I'm obsessed with the One Size Liquid Blotting Paper Spray. It's the first of its kind blotting spray that mattifies for up to eight hours.

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25:21Jenn Cutter: It's 40 % smaller and it's so sleek and it's so cool and I haven't even got to the new features yet and I love it. So, speaking of aesthetics, right? That's important with the ring as well. Shox with a Z announced the OpenDots 2 clip-on flagship earbuds and a lighter more fashionable model called the OpenDots Air. If you want a different take on good earbuds, check out the OpenDots 2. They're available for$200. OpenDots AR is$130, and you can order both of them now. Thank you for that said. You're welcome. Six months after it showed up on iOS, Google Photos for Android is getting the stickers folder, which lets you reuse stickers without having to create them from scratch each and every time.

26:08Jenn Cutter: Yeah. People who don't use stickers are like, who cares? People who do create stickers, that's not annoying anymore. That's good. Google announced it's going to add support or expand support for digital IDs in Google Wallet for Android this summer to several EU countries. It's already available in various parts of the world like Brazil, UK, US. It's also partnering with Sparkos Bank in Europe for age verification that won't release other details. So it doesn't need to say your name, your address, or even your specific birth date to verify your age. Texas could use that as Apple changed its App Store rules there to comply with a state law that requires App Stores to confirm if a user is younger or older than 18 when they create an account.

26:52Developers will have to adopt the declared age range API and are responsible for implementing the restrictions.

26:58Jenn Cutter: Yeah, so Apple has to require that and it's kicking the can to the developers, which I think it kind of makes sense. Otherwise, I don't see how they would implement it. But yeah, something developers are going to have to do in Texas now too. Age verification. It's the new thing in 2026. Apple also announced its App Store revenue numbers ahead of WWDC, something it usually does. Apple made$1.4 trillion in sales possible. They didn't get to keep all that money. They enabled$1.4 trillion in sales for developers in 2025. And in fact, they didn't keep much of that money. They did not take commission from 90 % of the$1.4 trillion passing through the apps because$1.1 trillion was from physical goods or services.

27:48Jenn Cutter: This is something that has always bugged me is that Apple makes a big deal about its right to charge to run its app store. But it seems to only want to charge the people that make things that are competitive to its own stuff. Interesting. Interesting. Amazon announced the next generation of its Proteus Autonomous Warehouse Robots, which can move beyond the loading dock to work in the entire facility. Workers will be able to direct the robots in natural language, too. Amazon will deploy the robots in its European warehouses and is also committed to adding 25 ,000 human jobs there. Yeah, this is going to make workers in the warehouses job easier because they could just tell it, like, go get bin 57 or, you know, stuff like that.

28:32Jenn Cutter: without having to know exactly how to phrase it. It's basically the same thing as they've done with the echo. You can now just talk to the echo instead of having to know, like, how do you have to say this to get the echo to respond properly? Dozens of experts signed an open letter to the U.S. Congress calling for laws to screen synthetic DNA and RNA orders, making that a legal requirement. Most companies do this voluntarily. They want to make it the law because it is so much easier to develop a DNA sequence for a biological product with a large language model. And yes, that can be used for good and is being used for good, but it could also be used for bad.

29:11Jenn Cutter: And that's what they want the companies who do the harder job of sequencing this kind of synthetic DNA to look at before they fulfill orders. OpenAI Sam Altman, Anthropics Dario Emote and Google DeepMind's Demis Hisabis were among the many people who signed the letter. And SpaceX launched its IPO website at, surprisingly, SpaceXIPO.com. It is asking for$135 a share, which would raise about$75 billion. That's a lot of money. That's all I got to say about that. I won't be buying it. We end every episode of DTNS with some shared perspectives. Yesterday, Sarah was talking about this week's episode of Live With It and was unsure how to refer to the Astro Bot.

30:00Frozen Cusser has some insight for us.

30:03Jenn Cutter: Yeah, Frozen Cusser wrote, In response to whether Sarah's Amazon Astro is a boy or a girl, we know for sure that a robot is not non-binary. Happy Pride! Thank you, FrozenCoster. I literally applauded when I read that comment. And if you're still sitting there like, well, how do you know it's not non-banking? Because it's a computer with ones and zeros. You got there. You didn't need us. You got there already. Most of you got there. I know. Just for the one person. You don't have to tell anybody you didn't get it. But now you have the joke in your back pocket. So you're good to go. What are you thinking about?

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We also talk about Nintendo’s replaceable battery in Europe, some hope for energy storage, and an explanation of Apple's smart glasses strategy as well.


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