Googlebooks Have a Tiny Intel Problem - DTNS 5367

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2:24this is the daily tech news for monday october 5th 2026 we tell you what you need to know give you some important context to try to help each other understand today google books have an intel

2:35Robb Dunewood: problem and sam altman thinks we need to allow some bad things to happen in order to get some good things to happen. Oh, I bet his PR agency loved that quote. I'm Tom Merritt. And I'm Rob Dunwood. Let's start with what you need to know with the big story. Let's start with the Google Books. Google Books began shipping this week. They have started arriving in the hot little hands of several tech reviewers. I know Ayaz Akhtar has got one. Paul Therott has a post up about his three of the models, three of the five models that are coming out, the ones from Acer, Asus, and Lenovo run on Intel processors.

3:12And that means if you want to run an Android app, one of the big perks of Google Books is that you can run all your Android apps, you need to use a hardware translation layer in Google Book OS to do it, usually. Google offers a curated group of optimized apps, which is great for the Google stuff, but Google has previously noted that those that aren't optimized, you can still use, they just might result in reduced performance and battery life. Well, Android Authority thought to ask Google if Intel-based machines would not be able to run well at all. And Google pretty much said yes. They said, since Android apps are designed for ARM, in most cases, complex apps or games need some developer tuning to run their best on Intel-based platforms.

3:59And Google, of course, is working with developers and chip makers to expand that compatibility as far as possible. they say that it's not that many that that'll be a problem but they didn't certainly put a number on it uh rob does this affect your google book optimism um not really um because i'm probably

4:17Robb Dunewood: going to pick one of these up and the acer is the least expensive of them and i'm really getting it to test it out just to see what the new operating system is like so i kind of want to get this one because if there are flaws it would allow me to point it out so there's there's that part that That is the reviewer in me. The actual, if I were just a consumer, I want whatever I get to work to the best of Google's ability to make it work. So I would be watching the news to see if there is a degradation in performance on things that are running Intel. That might make me just choose another model that has a Qualcomm processor in it just because I want to have the best of what I can get in this brand new device.

4:55Robb Dunewood: That is not inexpensive. These are not the MacBook Duo price. I mean, it's starting at$899, but they very quickly go up from there. And many of these devices are literally in the$1 ,300,$1 ,400,$1 ,500 range. Yeah, I read Paul Thorat's post on his Lenovo that he got, and he pointed out that the Panther Lake chip in it is wildly more than you need to run a Google book. And so he hoped that would make up for the performance you get because of the hardware translation layer. I think what Android Authority was asking and what Google, I thought in a fit of transparency, admitted to was like, yeah, if an Android app is really complex and it's built for ARM, then you might, even on that powerful Intel chip, you might have a problem.

5:41But I will probably not be surprised if most people go, yeah, most of the Android apps run just fine on Intel. It's only this particular app or this really huge game or something like that.

5:53Robb Dunewood: So I am personally waiting for apps like DaVinci Resolve to come out. We know that Adobe Premiere is coming out for this. So my gut would tell me is that if you are coming out with one of those big flagship applications that has people like me saying, I don't know if I can go to a Google book because I need to be able to run this kind of app. Those are the apps that would definitely want to work with Google to make sure that they run very, very optimized on regardless of which hardware platform you go with. that just seems like it kind of makes sense so i'm with you that i don't know that i would be terribly worried about this um but i'm going to look at the reviews if i am a if i'm just a regular person going to buy one i'm going to look to refuse because i could just as easily spend 1400 on an arm based chip as compared to spending 1400 on an intel yeah yeah or or get a windows a laptop uh which is you know there's a bunch of macbook neo competitors running windows out there that you could look at as well.

6:51I think what Google is positioning Google Book to be is sort of the, you need more than just word and email, but you don't need a desktop replacement. And we can do that. And that's gonna be the big test here is, okay, can I run all the things in the Google Play Store with maybe a couple of exceptions? And maybe those exceptions are niche cases like DaVinci Resolve, I think is a good example. in which case the people who need those need to know that a Google book might not work for them. But I don't know that Google was going after all of those people anyway. I think the bigger issue here is as you go along with Google books down the road, the promise Google was really trying to deliver and everything that I heard them tell the press when we talked to Ron Richards last week was you'll be able to just live in the Android ecosystem.

7:43And you developers, you make your Android app and it'll run on Google book. And it sounds like, well, in some cases, you might need to do some optimizing. In some cases, you might need to do some fine tuning. And that takes away from that ease of development. It doesn't mean you won't get the apps, but it does mean that the apps aren't dead simple to just port over to Google Book.

8:01Robb Dunewood: And, you know, one of the things that I've thought about in researching this particular, you know, news story is that why didn't Google just say they're all going to be ARM-based? That's something they could have done. And they would have got roughly the same amount of companies saying, OK, we'll just build an arm version of this. It's not like these these manufacturers, these OEMs are locked into only using one type of processor. So that was was interesting. And because of that, I think they ultimately are going to get it figured out. But I would I would argue with you on a point that you just made that, you know, the Google is not expecting this to be able to replace everything.

8:35Robb Dunewood: That may be the argument they make today because it can't because they don't have the software for it. But as soon as developers start developing software for these devices, they will absolutely want this to be the primary computing device you use for anything that you do in your in your work life, regardless of whether it's a high end thing or a low end thing. They want you to use a Google book. And I think they would absolutely go toward that. I think that the Chromebook is kind of showing you that's where they wanted to go. Chromebooks can only get you to a point. This is literally to get you to the next point.

9:06Robb Dunewood: And if they're going to throw a ton of hardware at this, I fully expect them to say, hey, we can compete exactly with that Dell XPS 15 that's running an Intel processor in Windows. We can compete with it running an Intel processor and Google OS because we have the apps. And I think that's where it'll be, not necessarily this year, but maybe in a year or two. Yeah, and I think you're right about down the road. Down the road, I think they want to make that argument, which might be why they wanted to bring Intel into the tent, right? To say like, well, you don't need Intel now, but we are going to want the power of those Intel processors down the road.

9:43ARM processors are great. They're better than they ever have been. But there might be some things that the Intel processors are better at because of the power, right? And my guess is they are looking at these compatibility issues. Everybody kind of acts like these companies don't pay any attention to the stuff that we notice, right? And they do. They absolutely do. I've been in enough companies to know. Like there's a lot of people in there paying attention to this stuff. My guess is they looked at it and said the number of apps that will take a performance hit on Intel are lower than are going to make a difference because of the amount of extra power.

10:19Now, they may be wrong about that. And that's what we'll see once these things hit scale. But my guess is they look at it and they're like, no, the power the Intel chips are bringing to this is worth it. Because even if you take a hit at the compatibility layer, it makes it up in just raw power. to the point where you'll not notice. And down the road, we're going to want that power because, to your point, they're going to want eventually to be targeting those upper reaches, possibly.

10:44Robb Dunewood: I also think that companies have been making abstraction layers, hardware extraction layers, since you or I were children. So they've gotten really, really good at it. And my gut tells me that Google probably has some experience or brought people in who have experience building hardware extraction layers. So I tend to believe that this is going to be okay. uh maybe not this year but in a year or two i don't think it'll be an issue i think it'll be okay this year for 90 plus percent of the use cases uh just because i we we shouldn't punish google for being honest right the the pr move would have been to say like listen you know everybody's going to have individual things but 99 of google play will run on 99 of google books and they didn't do that they said no if it's big and complex you might see a performance hit but the majority of stuff is going to run.

11:34And I think it's good to encourage that kind of transparency to say, yeah, realistically, not everything is going to run on these things yet. But we shouldn't overgeneralize that to be like, well, I guess these things are going to have a problem. Now, going back to what you said earlier, if you're an average consumer, let us mess around and find out before you go put your hard-earned money down on that. But we'll know that within a couple of weeks or so, I think.

11:58Robb Dunewood: We'll know it by the end of this week. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're probably right. DTNS is made possible by you, the listener. Thanks to Dallin Baskin, Erwin Stirr, Ken Hayes, and What the If. Woo, thank you, patrons. We need a new patron. You want your name on the show tomorrow? Become a new patron right now, patreon.com slash DTNS. I'm talking to you.

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16:26There's more we need to know. Let's get to the briefs.

16:30Robb Dunewood: OpenAI is adding display ads that will show up with free and low-cost users asked for an image to be generated. So while you're waiting for your images to generate, you might see an ad. The ad images will be labeled and they won't change the results of your query. Open AI says it won't serve ads that it thinks are emotionally vulnerable or sensitive conversations. The ads will show up for U.S. users from a test group of advertisers later this month. I mean, nobody's going to like a story that says more ads are coming to a thing you use. But as these things go, putting a display ad down at the bottom of the page while you're getting the generation image.

17:08If anybody hasn't used ChatGPT to generate an image, you basically get a square full of blocks while it's generating your image to let you know it's working on it. Is that the worst thing in the world? I mean, I don't love seeing ads in the interface, but it is clearly separate from your ad. And if they hold to what they were saying about this is not going to change your query or your result, it's probably not going to bother me too much. How about you?

17:35Robb Dunewood: So if I'm a free user, I'm not really bothered at all. That is kind of the tradeoff. I'm going to use your service for free. You're going to show me ads to defer the cost of me using your service for free. I do know that there are people who are paying for the lower end tiers that are going to see these ads. They're saying, wait, I'm paying you. I don't want to see ads. And then I would just say, you know what? People pay for cable all the time years ago, and they watched ads. Every television show that came on, if it wasn't HBO Showtime, Cinemaxxer, or something like that, it was just part of the thing.

18:05Robb Dunewood: So I think what's going to happen here is that if you're definitely free, I don't think you can argue. And if you're on a lower end tier, hey, while you're sitting there waiting for the thing to generate because they're not throwing all the tokens at you as fast as they possibly can, you're going to see ads to defer the cost of you not spending as much as someone who might be on a$100 plan compared to your$20 plan. Yeah. And that's true. That's already true of the text ads on those plans, right? This is, I guess, a little more visible, but it's not like a change in the underlying system of how they use ads and their ad-supported stuff.

18:38I mean, Netflix is a more modern example. The ad-supported version of Netflix still costs you money. There is no free with ads version of Netflix in most parts of the world.

18:48Robb Dunewood: Yeah, and I think people will just kind of get used to it. There are folks who absolutely will pay to remove ads. There are folks who simply won't pay to remove them. Even if they're paying, they won't pay more to remove them. And I think that after the initial, I can't believe I've got to pay for this and I still get ads. After that goes away, we'll just fall into you either pay for ads or you either get ads with the tier that you're on or you pay to not have those ads on a much higher tier. I think that that's just kind of where we want to fall into. Yeah. I think this one is a little more controversial.

19:18Politico senior tech reporter Brendan Bordelon asked OpenAI CEO Sam Altman where he and Anthropics CEO Dario Amode differ. Those two have a well-known bit of a beef between them. One part of Altman's answer is getting a lot of attention. Altman said, quote, we believe, meaning we at OpenAI, believe that the world should accept some bad things happening for the benefits of this technology and people having the agency. He hypothesized about a situation where a single lab would control models and decide who got to use them. And he said, I wouldn't take a trade of saying, we'll make sure there's no major hacks.

20:02There's no misuse of this technology. There's zero scams. There's zero all the other bad things that will happen. Because I think people will do tremendously orders of magnitude more good stuff than bad stuff. this this is a hard sell in today's world he's basically saying yeah a bad thing is going to happen there's going to be a bad hack they're going to be bad things happen but i think if we don't allow for wider use that we will have a lot of good things that would also happen that won't happen as a result and honestly this is this is putting the big one of the biggest debates on the internet, uh, right out on Fred street and then open AI saying, I think the risk is worth the reward where a lot of people are saying, if there's any risk, I'm not comfortable with it.

20:53Robb Dunewood: I absolutely get what he is saying. I know that PR people affiliated with open AI are wishing that I wish you would have just talked to us first, before you said it, we would have gave you some better words because what this sounds like is a sacrifice for the greater good. Um, And there's a problem with that. That has been used throughout history a lot of times. But particularly right now, we're at a time where folks are literally lashing out against that or saying we've been sacrificing and there is no greater good for us. There's only greater good for you, the folks who are running these companies who literally have infinite levels of money and we don't have any.

21:30Robb Dunewood: So that's going to be a very, very hard sell to say we want to allow bad things to happen or we know some bad things are going to happen, but we have to allow them to happen because the greater good says that we're going to get more on the back end. I get what you're saying, and I don't even want to say that he's wrong. I just think the way that it was worded in that first couple of sentences was like, man, you could have said that in a much better way that probably wouldn't have two thirds of the Internet fussing at you right now. We believe that the world should accept some bad things happening immediately.

22:01People stopped listening and said, easy for you to say. Right. Right. And I don't think he is the person who can make this argument very well just because of who he is. Altman isn't the richest person in this world at this point. He is not somebody who is swimming in the disposable income that the Musks and others have at his attention. but it doesn't matter because he's perceived to be the same. And he is certainly doing better off than you or I are doing by quite a bit. I imagine that you and I hit a rough spot. We'd have a harder time dealing with it than Sam Altman would. So I, and I think most people think that.

22:45What he's trying to say, I'm with you, is, hey, people die on highways all the time. That is a bad thing that happens. But the benefit is you get where you're going faster. There's more transportation. Goods are cheaper. And so we accept the risk of that to do it. But the way he said it just really doesn't hit well, especially coming from him.

23:09Robb Dunewood: It doesn't because it's not even giving the person on the freeway might get killed in an accident. It's giving the, well, you know what? We're going to just plow through these neighborhoods, divide them literally by the highway that we're going to take 10 years to build. It really gives you no access to get from one side to the other. without either getting on said highway or driving all the way around to where the highway isn't. That's what it's giving. And that's how people are reacting to it. So like I said, I know that his PR firm says what you said is not necessarily inaccurate. We just wish we would have given you better words to say it because it's falling on deaf ears.

23:44Robb Dunewood: Tom, you're absolutely right. People heard the first few words and they didn't listen anymore. It is you and people like you are continuing to tell us that we need to sacrifice and we need to, to get over things that you've broken, to get to this better world, and that better world only seems like it's going to affect you. That's what folks are hearing. Yeah. And like I said, so what he's saying is not necessarily untrue. I just think that better words are necessary, and you might be right. He's probably not the person to say it. No, I don't think he is at all. Dario Amode is not the right person to say it either because he pushes the doom and gloom like, We're all going to die, but you should fund my company anyway, which kind of doesn't make any damn sense.

24:28So, yeah, I love your example of the highway division because that's really what people react to here is saying, I didn't ask for this. And granted, if we go to the history of cars, maybe people weren't asking for cars in the early days either, right? But right now, people are like, yeah, no, I want a car, and that's fine. I would like to have some influence over how the highways are built and eminent domain, but I don't. And this is more like that. This is more like, oh, this is being forced upon me. And I have to deal with the bad consequences, not you, Mr. Alton. Right.

25:07Robb Dunewood: Mac OS offers a full disk access option that lets backup services access all files on a user's machine with the user's permission. Some users are giving the permission to agents without necessarily understanding the implications. Apple said Friday will introduce additional controls to ensure that users who genuinely wish to grant this app extraordinary level access can do so only with very explicit user action. granting an app full disk access in macOS requires navigating the system settings, privacy and security, full disk access, toggling the app on, and authenticating with your administrator password or Touch ID.

25:47Yeah, and that sounds like, well, wow, this is pretty buried in there. How do you accidentally turn this on? Well, if your agent has computer use, it can do some of these things itself and just go, hey, just do this, this, and this, and then I'll get access to your messages. And it's almost like a dark pattern or a click exploit where you're like, oh, I asked for you to access my messages. This is what you need. Great. I'm going to hit the touch ID button and on your way because I'm only paying half attention. It is a new threat model, not even a threat model. It's a new user accident model. And Apple's very good at anticipating those and dealing with them.

26:29So I'm very curious how they're going to apply this. Because right now, like you said, it's just for like, oh, I want my Dropbox or Google Drive or some other company to back up my hard drive. So they'll need access to all my files. Let me go in and turn that on for that particular use case.

26:49Robb Dunewood: Yeah, I am not bothered by this. there are folks and this doesn't apply to everyone, but there's there's two there's really kind of two camps. You get Linux or you get a PC because you want to be able to configure everything configural on that piece of hardware. And you kind of know that even though this stuff may come up with a warning, you're doing some things that can be kind of dangerous. But you got those operating systems because that's the level of configuration that you wanted to have. On the other side, when it comes to Mac OS, when it comes to iOS, there's an argument that, well, we get it right.

27:19Robb Dunewood: for 99 % of the people who use us. Therefore, you don't have to do this level of configuration. So I think what happens here is that they are going to make this to where you have, you absolutely know you're going to do this. Maybe you've got to even type something in like type actual words in because I'll be honest with you. I have run data centers in my previous career. This was something that I did for a living. And there are times when, are you sure you really want to format everything on on this drive you say yes yes yes until you actually oh wait I didn't mean to get rid of that I didn't mean to get rid of this but you've already done it and I think that anytime that there is a warning that can pop up to keep you from doing something that could potentially could be catastrophic or you're giving and it's like you're giving you know super user access to something that you didn't intend you thought it was just going to be for this thing but it actually is for everything that that thing has access to I don't see that as being bad.

28:12Robb Dunewood: It's going to annoy super users, absolutely. But I think that the annoyance is worth it if it keeps you from doing something that you truly did not intend to do. Yeah, I'm trying to remember when Backblaze, when I installed Backblaze years ago, it must have popped up the settings and said, hey, can you give us a full disk access? And I said, yes, I don't remember it. You know, it was not a moment that I was like, do I want to do this? And so, yeah, if your agent is like, hey, can we get full disk access? and it pops up the settings and you're like, yeah, turn it on. That's what they're going to do.

28:46Robb Dunewood: It's like, I want to use the thing that I just installed on here. So why wouldn't I give it access? You just don't realize what you were giving up when you do that. You know, all the access that you've given and how that could be used down the road without you intentionally thinking about how it can be used. So like, once again, I am not concerned about this whatsoever. I think that, you know, when you're talking about this level of access, the better the warning system, the better. Yeah, and even just a pop-up that says, are you sure by giving this app access, you are giving it access to every single file.

29:17Well, you know, that will cause a lot of people to like, oh, wait, hold on, do I need that? And hopefully that puts some pressure on some of these agents like Muse to say, oh, I don't need full disk access all the time just to access this or that. We deal with these kinds of questions every week on our live stream on Fridays. We had a real good discussion about e-books versus real books last week. Thanks to everybody who wrote in in response to that. We got some really good thoughts from folks about why they prefer one format or the other. If you want to catch those live, become a subscriber at our YouTube channel, youtube.com slash Daily Tech News Show.

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31:00Let us take a look at the quick headlines that'll make us look smart.

31:05Robb Dunewood: A group of independent researchers posted findings on Sunday that agents running on Tencent servers seem to be sidestepping Alibaba's API rules to access its mapping service. The researchers describe it as a fleet of agents, not a swarm, since they were not coordinating their efforts. Fleet. Okay. New buzzword alert. An open source tool called Remove Mac AI can disable Apple intelligence in macOS 27 remove its downloaded models and stop them from being downloaded again uh that will of course removes all the features of siri ai and and gen emoji and all that other stuff but if you don't care about all that stuff apparently you can free up around 12 gigabytes of hard space hard drive qualcomm agreed to license its patents to huawei related to huawei's logic folding chip making technique which has allowed it to catch up part way to u.s chip making technology which is is barred from accessing by u.s export rules just little by little they keep catching up Google and Samsung are the latest to raise prices on their budget phones.

32:06Pixel 10a is now$100 more expensive, and the Samsung A series of phones range from$30 to$70 more expensive, depending on the unit. Prices for existing smartphone models have risen 15 % globally this year.

32:19Robb Dunewood: The Dutch Institute for Vulnerability Disclosure, or DIVD, disclosed that attackers exploited two zero-day bugs in its support platform to access data for its volunteers. The Institute says the evidence indicates it was an agentic AI-powered attack. Yeah, the hackers got hacked is also how they described it. And this is one of the first examples I've seen of malicious use of agents for attack. This isn't the agents broke out of the sandbox. This is malicious actors were like, let's use agentic systems to do an attack. It may be the first. It will not be the last. It will not be the last. And if you get an email from a DIVD volunteer about something, be appropriately suspicious after this attack.

33:04Google has temporarily suspended its bug bounty reporting system because of a rise in automated submissions, which are mostly invalid. They're just getting flooded with crap reports, basically. Google said it will rework the system and committed to giving an update about it in Q1. So we're not getting it back up anytime soon.

33:22Robb Dunewood: Spam touches everything, doesn't it? Sure does. Paramount Skydance is closing its merger with Warner Brothers Discovery this week. And among the many details spilling out are that it appears to intend to keep Paramount Plus and HBO Max as separate brands. The combined company will be called Skydance. Yeah, it was a video and they put Paramount Studios on there, but also Paramount Plus and also HBO Max. But they didn't put HBO. And so that all the tea leaf reading was like, oh, I guess they're going to keep both these brands going on. Probably bundle them is what everybody expects. So they get them both at a cheaper price.

33:56The tilde key, you know, the little squiggle key that's next to the number one on your keyboard may not get much use if you're not in Linux. But in the latest Windows 11 Insider build, Microsoft has adopted the convention of using the key as a shortcut to jump straight to the user profile folder. You don't have to change the key bindings. It's just by default going to work that way. Bleepy Computer notes that you can now, in that Insider preview build, type tilde slash app data and head straight to the app data folder.

34:26Robb Dunewood: That's actually kind of cool. Yeah. Bloomberg's Mark German says CEO John Ternus has immersed himself in the industrial design and human interface teams. Molly Anderson leads industrial design and Steve LeMay leads human interface with Ternus as the decision maker. Was this while he continues to look for a Johnny Ive replacement or is he going to Steve Jobs all this for a while? I still can't call it. I'm not sure. Yeah. I think they might be looking for someone. I think that he might be the one they're looking for. Maybe, maybe he is. Professor Emeritus of Computer Science at Stanford University, John Ousterhott, gave a talk at the AI Engineer World's Fair advocating for the adoption of HOMA, H-O-M-A, an alternative to TCP.

35:12You know, TCP, the thing the entire internet is built on. Apparently, HOMA can work alongside TCP. You don't have to replace it. and that way you can move your applications from TCP to HOMA. HOMA is message-based, not stream-based, and he says the change reduces latency by several measures. One of them is designating the receiver, giving information on how much data is coming, and then scheduling when packets should be sent after that first permissionless information is sent. It can reduce latency by at least a factor of two, and he says sometimes up to 13 times. That ain't bad. it's always getting everybody over to it uh so this is the beginning of the campaign is i guess

35:55Robb Dunewood: this speech well folks we end every episode of dt and s with some shared perspectives today joe has more thoughts on ebooks based on a discussion on friday show yeah again we had so many good uh emails about this thanks to everybody uh who wrote in we read them all uh it's good stuff i picked joe's because i thought it was a little interesting specifically because rob's on the show today. Joe writes, I have been team ebook for a couple decades now, and I feel no ethical concerns about immediately stripping the DRM from any books I buy and want to keep. This means I can format shift them and read them on any device I want.

36:31I have to interject here and say, depending on where Joe lives in the world and his local laws, that may or may not be legal. But what Joe is saying is like, even if it's not legal ethically, I feel it's fine because I paid for the book. Anyway, back to what Joe wrote. Joe says, as a specific question for Rob, that is an extra perk on the e-book side. Has Rob ever tried one of the dyslexia friendly typefaces?

36:54Robb Dunewood: And the answer, Joe, is absolutely. And why do I do it? Because it makes it so much easier to read. So I tend to use like sans serif fonts. So it's going to be like Roboto or Verdana. And one of the things about those fonts is they have a lot of spacing. there's separation between the letters which makes it easier on someone like me but when you look at a font like open dyslexic or or even comic sans those fonts are weighted funny so it's it's very difficult to to see the letter d and perceive it as the letter b it's very difficult to see the letter q and perceive it as the let you know as as the letter c or or something like that because they're just kind of weird so yes i do use fonts that actually allow me to read with less stress just because it can be very stressful, especially if you got those fonts that are like, you know, kind of swooping and curvy and the letters tie into each other.

37:43Robb Dunewood: It's a little bit harder for folks with dyslexia the way that Mines presents to read some of those types of fonts. Today, I learned the answer to the question, what is Comic Sans good for? I had no idea. Have you actually done that where you changed font to Comic Sans? So, yeah. So if I'm like, we've talked about this on the show many times. I don't read when I'm tired, but if it's late at night and I need to get through something, I might change it to Comic Sans just because it releases the stress on the reading because I don't have to translate and think about, oh, that's actually a D, no, this is a P.

38:18Robb Dunewood: And it's, you know, I sight read most things like most people. When you see the word exuberant, you don't really read the word exuberant. You're not sounding that out. And nor do I at this point. But if we come across a word that I don't use in my everyday lexicon, I've got to sound it out. And that becomes very difficult when you can't tell, was that a B or is that a D or is that a G? Is that an F? Even though it happens for me relatively quickly, there's just added stress there that just makes that reading harder. And some studies will say that Comic Sans doesn't provide any benefit. Even if it is just in my mind, I think that it does.

38:56Robb Dunewood: It puts me at ease when I'm reading. So although I don't always read in open dyslexic, which is kind of weird, I definitely don't read in Comic Sans all the time. There are times when I will make the font really big, throw it in Comic Sans, and just try to power through it so I can get through it that night as compared to waiting until I get some sleep and read it the next day. Yeah, it was interesting just to hear about the Sans Serif being an advantage, which makes sense now that you say that. And I bet a lot of people, especially there might even be people dealing with dyslexia that don't know that there's an open font available for that.

39:28So what was the name of that font again? Just so it sticks in.

39:32Robb Dunewood: Open dyslexic. I think another one is called like Dix Lexley. I, which the names of them do not make them easy to find for people who are dyslexic. But yeah, but open dyslexic is the one that's actually built right into the Kindle. So you can just go in and just like we change any other font, change it to that. And like I said, you would think it's kind of like a comic Sam's font because it's like it's, you know, it's very underlined, bolded. So the fonts are bottom heavy. So they're hard to flip over into transpose backwards from forwards and forwards from backwards. That makes a lot of sense.

40:02Thank you for that answer. That's really helpful. Well,

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