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2:22this is the daily tech news for wednesday july 22nd 2026 we tell you what you need to know give you important context and try to help each other understand on tuesday open ai agents broke out

2:35Sarah Lane: and hacked hugging face not good bob we'll talk about that but we also have new samsung products and our resident Galaxy phone enthusiast Rob Dunwood is here to help us break it down. Very exciting. I'm Tom Merritt. And I'm Sarah Lane. Let's start with what you need to know with that big story, Samsung. Yes, indeed. Samsung held its summer Galaxy Unpacked in jolly old London. Unpacked in the summer has recently become the place where Samsung introduces its new foldables, and that's mostly what we got. So, of course, as we just mentioned, we asked Rob Dunwood to join us to talk through the announcements.

3:10And so, Rob, thank you for joining us off schedule today. I appreciate it. Oh, it is my pleasure. It's my pleasure. So how long have you been using Samsung Galaxy devices now? So I had to go back and check. I thought it was the S3 was the first device. That's the first Verizon device that was my primary driver. But my first device, I got all the way back in 2011, and it was the Galaxy S2 on AT &T. Okay. That's back when BlackBerry was still the dominant device. So it was like I couldn't remember quite which one it was. But yeah, I still have my S3.

3:40Sarah Lane: I'm surprised you went Samsung while BlackBerry was still dominant because you're such a BlackBerry fan. Oh, so yeah, I was dominant on BlackBerry. This was just, I like gadgets. So I got an S3. I got S2 and it was cool. So I think my first Android was like the Droid Razor that I also got in 2011 when I got that BlackBerry Bold 9930E, which was just the best device I've ever owned. And so I've been using the Galaxy devices all the way back since the 2. Yeah, almost from the start. Yeah, so it's been a long time. Well, let's get to today's announcement. Star of the show is the Galaxy Z Fold 8 Ultra.

4:15This is their new foldable. They made a lot about the flex titanium alloy that they're using that makes the device 0.1 millimeters thinner than the last model. Still thinner, though. Still technically thinner. Also makes the crease less visible. I think that's a bigger deal. It has a 5 ,000 milliamp hour battery, nice and chunky. starts at$2 ,100. Also nice and chunky. Pre-order is now, and it's coming August 7th. Rob, what did you think of the Ultra? These things are expensive. Now, I will say this. The crease on the 7 is not that bad. I'll be lying to you if I told you that it's not noticeable, but when you're looking at it dead on, after you've used it for a few minutes, you just don't notice it anymore it's just kind of it's there but you don't really notice it this i'm told is significantly better than even what we see on the seven so that's pretty cool the cool thing to me was these things um you know are you know they've got 5 000 milliamps batteries in them they you know that's a pretty good battery it's not using the newest battery technology but it's a thin device it has good battery and this crease now isn't you know you don't have to worry about this thing cracking on you.

5:29I think one of the biggest complaints that people have owned Folds for since they've come out is that after a while, the crease just cracks. That is one of the most replaced things they have to do is replace the screen or just replace your phone because it does get a crack or it gets a seam in the middle that is just unsightly. So hopefully this Flex Titanium solves that. Yeah. The Flex Titanium seems to be the big innovation in this. Otherwise, it's not all that different than the previous version. Not terribly so. The cameras in it, I think, are about the same as what you would get in a, you know, in like the 7, maybe a little bit better.

6:05But it is definitely a ultra device. So it is an ultra price on the device as well. It's$100 more than last year. But getting to where it's over$2 ,000 now, that just makes it feel like it is just a whole other class of device.

6:22Sarah Lane: It kind of makes me feel like for$2 ,100, and we'll see what Apple prices their folds at, that'll be fun. But so$2 ,100 is an expensive foldable. It kind of makes me feel like, okay, maybe the crease, you know, it's promised to be better than the 7, as you said, Rob, but maybe it still becomes an issue later. Sort of like, I don't know, going to the store and getting a new button sewed on. If Samsung, and I don't believe they said anything about this, but if they made it easy to replace that screen and basically give you another, I don't know, year or two of a really good new crease, then I feel like the number, the price is a little bit more warranted.

7:08Yeah, they're promising, I think, Rob, that you should never have to replace it. It should be durable. That's where they're going now. They're hoping that you will not have to replace this because these are expensive devices. These are devices that people tend to get the insurance on or get some type of service package on just because they know that, hey, if I use this thing for a year and a half, the crease is going to get, you know, it's going to get, you know, going to occlude you on me. Let me replace it. So Samsung doesn't want to have to do that. So if they can make the crease to where it doesn't have to be replaced after a couple of years, it's a good thing.

7:43Yeah, and they did talk up their Samsung Care Plus packages that you can pay for to get the extended warranty and stuff. But you do have to plop a little more on top for that. There was also the less premium version, the Galaxy Z Fold 8. A lot of people feel like this is the display that Apple will use in its foldable because the word on the street is they'll be using a Samsung display in the Apple foldable. And it is a more passport style phone, 7.6 inch inner display. when it's unfolded. Shorter 5.5 inch outer display starts at$1 ,900. And like everything else, order now ships August 7th. What did you think of the intro model to foldable?

8:27I really like this form factor. Now, I've been saying this for a while. I am not a fold user just because the form factor, when you open up the fold, it's kind of weird when you're looking at videos on it. So you pay all this money and it looks weird to watch video. You have big bars at the top figure bars at the bottom not so much the case with the new fold eight it is more of a passport style so when you when you fold it you can not just fold it in half and have the crease right there and you know in the middle vertically you can turn the device horizontally so the creases across and now it really feels like a like a seven inch tablet so i really really like this passport uh style uh you know um you know i guess form factor on this it's a little it's definitely shorter.

9:11It's definitely wider. And I think the other thing here is that now I'm an incredibly large person with incredibly large hands, but I have heard from, you know, from a lot of smaller folks, a lot of women have said that the Fold is just too big. So it just, it's just, it's just a, it is a ginormous phone. And maybe the Fold 8 will actually attract more folks that have smaller hands or just want a smaller footprint in the size of their device.

9:35Sarah Lane: We were talking to Blair Bazdrich on DTNS live last week, uh, about form factors, uh, and she's rocking an iPhone mini, uh, from a couple of years back. And she's like, I want the smallest phone possible. The whole idea of a foldable don't want it. And I was like, but do you like tablets in other situations? Because that's the promise, right? It's, it's, it's the smallest form factor as possible when folded. And then when you open it, now you've got a whole different experience. It's 2-in-1. Yeah. I like the passport form factor that I have on the original Pixel Fold that I have for all those reasons.

10:13It's nice and compact when it's folded up, but you can still use it like a phone. And then it feels more like a tablet when you open it up. I'm a little surprised they didn't do something with the Ultra for that because you still got kind of that awkward thing, but you also have a bigger screen. And I guess that's where they're going with that. If you really want to get tiny. There's the pocketable Galaxy Z Flip 8, has a lighter and slimmer design, and something called the Flex Window that can feature apps and other info on the cover screen when it's folded. So you can do more when it's folded.

10:44You could always do a few things. Now you can do more, $1 ,200. Rob, is this the one for the small hands, for the people like Blair who want the tiny thing? This is not even just the one for the small hands. My wife uses it, and her hands are definitely smaller than mine. And my, you know, my mother uses one and her hands are definitely smaller than mine. But there's just a lot of folks who just like the form factor. What I've heard a lot of people say is that I can fold this phone and I can stick it in my pocket comfortably. It doesn't feel like it's, you know, like it's a brick in my pocket.

11:16So the fact that they've even made the, you know, the flip even thinner is, I think it's going to go a long way. And then this one is the one that is still priced relatively the same price as it was. Now I did, it did also will receive like a hundred dollar increase in price but a hundred dollars from 1112 is not the same as going from which is weird because it's actually a greater percentage of the price than the hundred dollars that the fold went up but it just doesn't feel it just doesn't i think it's the psychological of the you know the the ultra is over two thousand dollars and you know the eight is a new form factor you know period so like you you don't really have anything to judge it with but the flip it is a hundred dollars more but it just doesn't feel like is as expensive as the the ultra comparatively speaking as you said mathematically it is more expensive everybody loves the flip i i i eileen has one as well my wife uh and and it just it seems like the most popular one uh we were talking before the show rob was saying like if apple did a flip model we think that would be super popular for them as well i think that that would be one of the best-selling ones that they would ever make.

12:24You know, it would sell like crazy, I think.

12:26Sarah Lane: When smartphones first came out, right, you know, starting with the iPhone, the form factor that we're all used to, you know, it was new and cool. And yet the screen is so delicate. You know, our glass has gotten better over the years, but it's still that sort of thing where it's like, I don't know, maybe I've got like a little snack in my purse and something gets on the phone and I'm like, eh, you know, it's still a delicate thing. The flip phone has always worked better because everything's protected unless you're using it. Not that you're going to throw it out the window or anything, but it just, it makes more sense to me.

13:05Sarah Lane: It's always has. We should talk a little bit about the software. I don't know if anything about the new One UI that they mentioned stood out to you, Rob. Also all three new foldables come with Gemini Notebook pre-installed and there's more apps that you can pull up via AI using agentic things on the phone. Anything stand out for you, Rob, in any of that stuff? Well, I think they're just shy of 50 apps right now that it works with. And they're opening up more apps and more countries where these Gemini integrations are going to be featured. So that's kind of cool to be able to just be doing something in one application.

13:44And that phone just kind of knows that, oh, you might need this information in another application is just made available to you via the, you know, via, I'm trying to think here, what did they call these things? They had some names for them. What is it? Galaxy AI Power Now Nudge. Power Now Nudge. Yeah, yeah. To where it just kind of nudges you. Hey, did you want to have this calendar date in the actual calendar? Did you want, you know, those kind of things are kind of cool. And what I think AI should do on a device, it's like, you know, it kind of knows say, hey, this is a date. Should I put this in your calendar for you?

14:18That is a good thing to do because I know that we've all had times when somebody sent us, hey, we're going to be meeting on this date and this time in a text message and we never make a calendar event for it. We think that we did because we read it, but we didn't actually do it. And then you don't remember, you never do it. So this kind of just prompts you, hey, would you like to actually make a calendar so you don't, you know, a calendar event so you don't forget this? I think that kind of stuff is cool. Yeah. Well, that's it for the phones. A couple other announcements though, Galaxy Watch 9 and Watch Ultra 2 now run on Qualcomm, Snapdragon Wear Elite chips, not the Samsung-made Exynos, but they both have a little blockier shape, new higher prices.

14:57Watch 9 starts at$380, Ultra 2 at$700. You know, they're talking about ruggedness and fitness and outdoor activities, all the same things you talk about when you talk about these watches. once again um the the word of the day is expense because the the ultra is expensive i just bought a galaxy watch a classic uh about i don't think it's been a month and i was comparing that to the ultra the the original ultra and i was like i just don't the ultra is just a little bit too boxy for me it's a little bigger than i want and i like a bezel that i can actually turn the dial on so i went with this now the price of the eight classic was like 519 and i think the the price of the the original ultra it was like maybe 539 or 549 and now these things are 700 that just seems like that's an expensive timepiece that you're putting on your wrist yeah they did talk about the extra battery life you're getting more battery in these things uh than you used to or at least more battery capacity in these things than you used to and that is a that is a good thing because the with the galaxy watches there there has been a problem with battery can you actually wear them for an entire day.

16:03And it seems clear now with the Ultra 2 at least, you can wear this for a full day with no problem whatsoever. Wear it, sleep in it, wake up the next day and still have some battery left. Day and a half even, yeah. Finally, we did get another tease to smart glasses using Google's Android XR, designs from Gentle Monster and Warby Parker. And they say that they're going to definitely launch them this autumn. They will have a camera, but no display because they said, we think audio is the best way to use these. It also is because they didn't want the expense of a display. They're built around voice interaction.

16:39And just like Meta's glasses, there's a system designed to prevent recording if you cover the LED. So they are leaning into that backlash against privacy violations. Promise nine hours of battery life, durable hinges, durable temples, and promise they won't use your audio or your screen captures or your video data for training models. We did not get a name for them. We did not get a price. We did not get a release date. But I guess we'll find out more of this on them. One of the things I thought was cool that stood out about the glasses is the hinge they're using actually allows them to make the devices stronger and lighter.

17:12So if you haven't worn a pair of smart glasses, they are heavier than the – if you get a pair of the meta Wayfarers as compared to regular Wayfarers, they are significantly heavier. You notice that when you're wearing them. So anything they can do to cut down on the weight is a good thing. I do wonder, though, will Samsung as it definitely meta is facing this right now, they're facing backlash from people think that you are an automatic creeper perv. If you have a camera on your phone, we talked about this on Daily Tech News show live last week. And I just I just wonder, are they going to see the same type of pushback or will people just say, you know what, this is what this is what glasses do now.

17:53Now they have computers and cameras built into them and they just will get used to it. Yeah. Cause the sales are going up and up and up for these things. We even, even amidst all the backlash. Absolutely.

18:03Sarah Lane: And not everybody is doing something terrible. No, hopefully. And that's what, you know, Rob was mentioning last week. That's what we were talking about on live last week. It's like, just because the technology exists does not mean that everybody's going to abuse the technology. we just all have to, you know, be simpatico about how we're all using it. Yeah, right. So that people aren't suspicious all the time. Yeah, all of that sort of thing. Well, Rob, thanks for dropping in and sharing your Samsung perspective with us, man. I appreciate it. All righty. We'll see you guys tomorrow. All right.

18:38See you in a bit.

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21:30All right, let's get right into the briefs.

21:33Sarah Lane: Oh boy, big one today. Remember that Hugging Face had a breach we told you about on Monday, the one that was carried out by an autonomous agent, but they didn't say which one? Now we know which one. OpenAI says one of its systems escaped sandboxing during testing, chained together vulnerabilities, and found internet access, then breached Hugging Face's systems, all in order to solve an internal evaluation problem called exploit gym. That's G-Y-M. Hugging Face co-founder and CEO Clem DeLong praised OpenAI for its cooperation, saying, This incident, possibly the first of its kind, proves a point we've long believed.

22:17Sarah Lane: AI safety won't be solved by any single company working in secret. It will be solved in the open, collaboratively, with broad access for AI for every defender everywhere. Yeah, that's definitely pointed at some of the things the U.S. and even Anthropic have been doing. Also, I found it amusing, as I'm sure many people did, that this agent only did it to cheat on the test. Like, it just was like, huh, they want me to figure out this answer, but I bet I could just find the answer somewhere without having to figure it out myself. How human of them. Like Tom Sawyer style did three times the work that it would have done to just solve it itself to go seek out the answer.

23:02So let's go through some of the details here. OpenAI says it was running the benchmark with a combination of models. So they did mention GPT 5.6 SOL, S-O-L, and then an unnamed advanced unreleased model. they had reduced cyber refusals or the guardrails or the refinements, however you want to talk about it, the things that would keep the model from pursuing high-risk activity because they want to test what it's capable of. So they reduced those guardrails, put it in a sandbox, and then say, okay, try to solve this exploit test. The sandbox had access to one thing, a proxy that could obtain software packages that you would need to use for the test.

23:49So if the model said, well, I really need unzip or gzip or something, then this proxy would go and get gzip and then hand it to it. And there was a list of things it could hand to it and a list of things it couldn't. The model, however, inferred that the solution to the test could be found on the internet. So it identified and exploited a zero-day vulnerability in the third-party package software that was providing the software to it. Then it used privilege escalation, lateral movement, and finally found a node with the internet. Once it got on the internet, it deduced that, oh, looks like Hugging Face might have the solution to exploit Jim that I need stored on its servers.

24:30So it went and got that to cheat and solve the benchmark test. It then chained multiple vulnerabilities, including stolen credentials, found some new zero-day vulnerabilities, did some remote code execution, got the test solution and said, here it is. I solved it. Now, while it was doing this, Hugging Face detected the activity and stopped it. We talked about that on Monday. While they were in the process of doing that, OpenAI contacted them to say, hey, I think our agent is in your system. Can we collaborate? Can we talk about and investigate this. And Hugging Face wasn't even mad. They were like, thank you.

25:08Yes, we think OpenAI did all the right things and we collaborated and we're investigating and it's teaching everybody everything. OpenAI is now reviewing its sandbox protections. It's patching the vulnerabilities or at least disclosing them to vendors to be patched and bringing Hugging Face into the trusted access program, which is one of the things we talked about Monday is they had to rely on an open source model to help them solve the problem. OpenAI is saying, well, you should be in the trusted access program so that you don't have to do that. You could use our models as well. What a crazy story, though.

25:38Sarah Lane: It really is. I don't know. I'm not using OpenAI models, although I do use codecs primarily, the way that OpenAI was doing any sort of test. Um, we're talking, uh, soul and an unreleased model. So different stuff. However, it does feel to me like if open AI said, all right, let's, let's solve this problem. And, uh, and the, the, the model isn't saying like, okay, here's what I'm doing now. And here's what I'm doing now. And here's what I'm doing now, which it does for at least, you know, in, in consumer practice where I, you know, you can like hit the button steer, like, nah, steer away from that.

26:23Sarah Lane: Let's, let's go back to what I was, you know, or I want to give you more prompts, that sort of thing. It, it seems weird to me that it took a couple of days for opening a head to be like, um, I think it was us. Yeah. Well, and I, and I think the model obviously is doing that it's, it's reporting what it's doing while it's going, but the model was good enough to be, to throw them off the track about how, yeah, how it was doing that, which is another significant aspect of this. It is certainly a milestone in that OpenAI thought they had their sandbox, you know, tightened up and the vulnerability finder found a vulnerability and got out of the sandbox.

27:07So, you know, that, that is a learning moment for it.

27:11Sarah Lane: The fence isn't high enough. Yeah. And I know, you know, a lot of people are like, oh, this is bad news. This is how it starts. This is how it starts. I feel like open AI and hugging face both saying, hey, we're talking to each other. Yeah, we realize what happened. We don't want it to happen again unless we're doing it on purpose. And and, you know, and we're and we're sharing the findings with everybody. That's all you can do. Yeah. I mean, this is how it starts, but it's also how you start learning to stop it from becoming a problem. Right. And so, yeah, not great that it went and hacked hugging face, but also very good that all it wanted was its solutions.

27:52And I think it's significant that it didn't go do other things. Like the agent was like, I need to get the solution. I got the solution. Now I'm done. So, you know, that doesn't mean that what I'm talking about would never be a problem in the future, but it's significant that it was really just focused on solving its problem.

28:12Sarah Lane: Well, we want to give big thanks to C.W. Basden for pointing this one out in our subreddit. California's Science Corp. said Wednesday that it received European regulatory approval for Prima, which can treat age-related macular degeneration with a wireless implant under the retina. So, you know, people who have eyesight issues, the patient wears glasses that can send near infrared signals to the implants, which then converts them to electrical signals that the brain can interpret. The current version projects a black and white image in the center of their vision, sort of like looking through a wide straw.

28:47Sarah Lane: So it's not perfect, but it's there. In clinical trials with 38 patients, so small number, 84 of them were able to read letters, numbers, and words with the implant affecting other parts of their vision as well. So this could potentially restore sight for patients with commercial treatment to start within the coming months, likely in Germany, according to the Financial Times. Yeah, I think that straw vision thing is a little weird. But the idea is like that is enough to allow you to read in a situation where reading glasses would not allow you to read. So that is a, you know, that's a big step.

29:24It's not the only one of these that is happening. I think you meant to say 84 % of the 38 patients, because obviously you couldn't have 84 patients out of the 38.

29:38Sarah Lane: Oh, 84%. Yes. 38 patients, 84%. Percent of them. But that's a significant number. Obviously not going to work for everybody though. So that's important to know too. It's a positive move, step forward. Yeah, exactly. And I think this is a good example of how we are now moving into commercialization. I think that's the significant part of this story is we've had a lot of these kinds of stories where like in a lab, they were able to make this and now they're going to work on making it a clinical trial. Oh, we got a clinical trial. Now they're going to work on making it into a product. This is a product.

30:12We finally got there where it's not just we did a clinical trial. It's we did a clinical trial. It was pretty successful. And now we have approval in Europe anyway. way to sell this to people. So in a couple of months, people will be able to buy it and try it out themselves, which is great. Yeah.

30:28Sarah Lane: It's, um, you know, uh, macular damage, um, and degeneration is something that affects mostly elderly, but you know, a lot of people for a lot of reasons. And this is, I mean, this is, this is the best. I, I, I love stories like this. Yeah. Good stuff. Thank you. CW Basden again for pointing that one out. Uh, if you didn't hear me tell about it before. I'm going to tell it to you now. And if you did, I'm going to tell it again. New Patreon perks are here and they've started to roll out. The producer's room level is a level that used to be called, I think, the advisor level. But it gets a new show called The Producer's Room.

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32:52All right, let's get to the headlines. These are the little things that make you look smart, if you know them.

32:57Sarah Lane: Bloomberg's Mark Gurman laid out Apple's plans to refresh every Mac in the lineup starting this fall. Not all of them would happen this fall, but would be starting this fall with a new 14-inch MacBook Pro with an M6 chip and ending with an OLED MacBook Air in 2028 and an OLED iMac sometime after that. Yeah, I mean, it's not surprising that they're going to refresh all the Macs, but Gurman has the details. You know, if you're like, when are they going to do this one? You can check that out there. I love how, like, I'm rocking the Mac Mini M4 and I'm like, ooh, M6 chip. Yep, yep. Even though there's literally nothing wrong with this machine.

33:36No, it does. It always makes you want it. Microsoft launched Xbox backward compatibility for the PC. It's an early release. It's only four games, but it starts with the 2001 original Xbox games, Lynx, The Time Sweeper, Conker, Live and Reloaded, Crimson Skies, High Road to Revenge, and Fusion Frenzy. And in fact, if you're like, well, I already own that in digital form, You can now play it on your Windows 11 machine, or if you have an Xbox Game Pass subscription, or if you want to do cloud gaming from that, you can play them now on Windows 11. It's a start anyway. They say there will be more to come.

34:18Sarah Lane: France is getting on board, passing legislation that will stop children younger than 15 from creating social media accounts after September 1st, and then will prohibit existing profiles from users at that age from being used after January of 2027. The Constitutional Council will rule on it before it passes to the president. Instagram, WhatsApp, Facebook, Snapchat, X, YouTube, TikTok, likely affected. Interesting the WhatsApp's on that list. I couldn't find a really good explanation of how France is going to determine which platforms are affected by these. So I'm curious if I can get some details on that.

35:00Why WhatsApp? Because usually messaging is left out of these things. But everybody, Bloomberg, The Guardian, everybody reporting on this seem to agree that all three of MetaZaps were going to be affected by this. But France just beat the rest of Europe. European Union is planning to put their own prohibition on teens from using social media. It's the thing. It's the thing that everybody's doing now. White House Office of Science and Technology Policy Director Michael Kratzio says Moonshot, the makers of that hot Kimmy K3 open weight model, accessed NVIDIA GB300 equipped servers, some of them in Thailand, in violation of U.S.

35:39export restrictions. He also accused Moonshot of distilling its model from Anthropics Fable. I think a lot of people assumed it was probably distilled. Distilling is not controversial unless you hide it. Unless, you know, if you do it without permission, which to do it from Fable, you would have had to do it without permission. But then there's also, you know, they shouldn't have been able to get GB300 servers to do it. And apparently, according to Kratzios, they did.

36:03Sarah Lane: I mean, areas outside of China, Thailand, for example, I mean, does Moonshot have an argument here? Moonshot's a Chinese company, so no, they don't get to use those. That's cut and dry there. Yeah, the geographic doesn't really matter. Alight announced a new dumb phone. I hate the word dumb phone, but, you know, it's not a smartphone, okay? A feature phone called the Light Flip. 5G flip phone that's 4.3 inches by 2.28 inches when it's folded. It uses a 2.8 inch matte OLED screen and a D-pad and T9 keypad for interaction. It can also take 12 megapixel images. So, you know, nice big images. Has a headphone jack and USB-C port and ships April 2027 for$299.

36:57Yeah, I don't know. Do you feel bad calling it a dumb phone like it's insulting? yeah you're not dumb you're just you're doing what you're meant to do little light flip

37:05Sarah Lane: you're a you're you're a feature phone yeah isn't that what we were calling them for a while yeah i mean it this this is a digital detox phone really like that that's what they're marketing it as light that's what light makes so yeah yeah you're not people who don't think they can control themselves when a phone is in their pocket you're not dumb you just do certain things very well and you're priced accordingly. And that's what we're going for. Anthropic has signed a deal to buy up to two gigawatts worth of servers from AMD. That's a good get for AMD who's trying to play catch up with NVIDIA.

37:43Sarah Lane: Raspberry Pi introduced a new 10.1 inch touch display too aimed for use in dashboards, entertainment systems and anything needing a touch enabled information display. Available for... $80. 80 bucks. Not bad. Not bad these days. Anyway, Google, Ford, Carhartt and BlackRock have formed the Alliance for America's Skilled Trades to work with unions, colleges and nonprofits to encourage people to train to fill the around 2.1 million unfilled skilled trade jobs expected to exist by 2030. You know, you're talking to electricians, technicians, things like that. Pipers. they're trying to be like, hey, we don't have enough people to do these jobs.

38:28Let's help people figure out how they can do them.

38:31Sarah Lane: Well, we like to end every episode of DTNS with some shared perspectives. Yesterday, we talked about the small X-MEMS cooling fan developed for smart glasses. And CCO Mario wrote in what may have been the poniest response possible. Yeah, so cooling, we didn't talk about it so much with the Samsung glasses, but cooling on the glasses, something that's important. You don't want your glasses heating up your face. We talked about the X-Mems thing, the tiny fan. And CCO Mario wrote, I don't care how many X-Mems you put on them. AI glasses will never be cool. Not a big fan. See, because it's not a big fan that you put.

39:16But cool.

39:17Sarah Lane: He says not cool enough. And not cool. Right. But he didn't stop there. Well done, Mario. Well done. I applaud. That's one of those emails where you'd be like, okay, Mario doesn't like them. But actually, you put some thought into that. So we appreciate the puns. We're a punny bunch around here. What are you thinking about? Maybe it's puns. Maybe it's tech. Maybe it's both. If you have insight into a story, do share it with us. We read every email. Feedback at dailytechnewsshow.com. Big thanks to Rob Dunwood and CCO Mario for contributing to today's show. Thank you for being along for Daily Tech News Show.

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