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3:26This is the Daily Tech News for Monday, August 4th, 2025. We tell you what you need to know, follow up on the context of those stories, and try to help each other understand. Today, why a rollable concept laptop is now a reality, and apparently a good reality. Who would have thunk it? I'm Todd Merritt. And I'm Rob Dunwood. Let's start with what you need to know with that big story. the verge's antonio d benedetto has a review of lenovo's thinkbook plus gen 6 now why is that today's big story well because the thinkbook plus gen 6 is lenovo's laptop with a rollable screen that you would be forgiven for thinking was just another ces vaporware concept but now you can buy it for$3 ,299.

4:15And Di Benedetto says it's good. Actually, he used italics. He said it's very good. The Gen 6 has a 14-inch OLED display with a 2000 by 1600 resolution, 120 hertz refresh rate. But what differentiates it from every other laptop that meets those specs is that you can press a button and it will unroll into a 16.7 inch version of the same screen. It takes about eight seconds for it to do it, but he said the motor is not super loud or anything. If you try to close it before rolling it back up, it actually emits a high-pitched warning tone. And if the battery gets below 5%, a countdown timer starts until it will automatically unroll the screen so you don't have the battery die with it extended.

5:05So it's doing things to try to prevent you from damaging that rollable screen. Lenovo claims the screen is rated for 30 ,000 hinge openings and closings and 20 ,000 rolls up and down. DiBenedetto said in doing the review, he kept it unrolled almost all the time he was working with it. He's like, yeah, I unrolled it when I opened the laptop and then rolled it down to close the laptop. The screen delivers, in his words, punchy colors and crisp, bright details from the flexible OLED. He also noted that it was good for not only productivity, as you might imagine, with multiple screen size, but also eye-level video calls, because the webcam floats up when you unroll the screen.

5:46The negatives are that the laptop is about a pound heavier than a 13-inch MacBook Air, in part because it has an aluminum chassis, but also because you have extra hardware in there. The hinge tilt is limited, so if you are in the 14-inch mode. You can't tilt it as far back as you would a normal 14-inch laptop. And it's got a plastic screen because it's flexible, because it's rollable. So the screen wobbles and creaks and has a few ripples. It doesn't sound like it's like, you know, bubbles or anything, but just the kind of thing you would see in any foldable screen, sort of the divot kind of things.

6:21He said most of the time he didn't notice it. He also really liked the trackpad, calling it Mac-like, unlike other Lenovo laptops that he's tried. He did not like Lenovo's workspace software, which is meant to help you manage multiple windows in that larger screen space, but found that Windows 11 did a fine job for this. Rob, what do you think? A rollable, it's here. It's a little expensive, but you could buy one. So this is something, I don't think I'm in the market for it today, because any laptop that weighs more than a couple of Rice Krispies, I'm complaining that it's too heavy. But this back in the day when I was carrying a bag and going to sales calls, more screen real estate on your own PC when you don't have to borrow someone else's monitor or you don't have to rely on always having to project something if it's just you and one other person, this would be ultimately great.

7:13And when I initially saw it, I'm like, I'm thinking, right, yeah, this is CES vaporware. No one's ever going to build this. But the fact that this thing is something you can actually go out and buy, that's pretty impressive. And I think some people will really look at this that are doing the type of work where they just need more screen real estate all the time when they're working on the road. Yeah, it is a bit of a niche product, especially at that price point. We'll see if they get better at it, if it sells well enough that they keep developing it, get rid of some of those ripples, make it a little faster, make it a little less heavy, that sort of thing.

7:46But I do think that this is a very good review for this sort of thing to say like, yeah, this is worth the extra discomfort if you're going to get advantage from that extra screen. And the one thing that really stuck with me was it was often described when Lenovo showed off the concept as like, when you need it, you can unroll it to a larger screen. And DiBenedetto found like, yeah, I just always unrolled it. Basically it became, I had a larger screen without having to have a larger package when it was folded up. The promise of this is that Lenovo makes more than just a few laps. They make and sell a lot of stuff.

8:24So if they're doing it, that means their competitors are going to do it too, which means that there's going to be more innovation and this technology will get better. What I'm looking for is not the vertical roller, but it's the horizontal roller where it gets wider. And whoever taps that is going to sell a lot of them if it works because that's what people really are looking for is to have that real estate to where it looks like you've got two monitors as compared to maybe one stack on top of another. So I'm just happy that the technology is actually a real thing that you can go and buy because that just means it's going to get better.

8:56Yeah, I'm imagining somebody sitting down at the coffee shop and then just wrapping the screen around them 360 degrees. Hey, you know what? That could be like a nice gaming rig as well. You just get in and just pull the screen all around you. You're just out of a bubble of a screen, like one of those motorcycle cages where they're doing flips and stuff inside of the cage. That would be kind of awesome. Yeah, I love that idea. DTNES is made possible by you, the listener, thanks to Michelle Serju, Kirk Stephenson, Miranda Janelle, and our brand new patron, Syed. Yay, Syed, good new patron. Episode prep gets messy when research, Slack threads, and script trackers are all in different places.

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12:43There's more we need to know today. Let's get to the briefs. Yonap News reports that a truck carrying approximately 12 ,000 Samsung devices was stolen near Heathrow Airport in London. The products were being moved from the airport to a warehouse. It contained about 5 ,000 foldable phones, 5 ,000 Galaxy Watch 8S devices, and some S25 and A16 models. It totaled about 9 million euros worth of phones at retail prices. Police launched an investigation and found the stolen containers, but not the phones. Yeah, I mean, it's not the first, nor will it be the last, like, big bunch of phones got stolen.

13:18But I think the fact that it happened to Heathrow and the fact that it's the foldable phones that just got announced is probably why it's catching a little more attention here today. Plus, you know, it'll make the basis for a great action movie someday. That's true. But here's the thing. Nobody's going to get cheap phones now because these things, I'm certain that the IME, you know, codes have been locked on these particular devices. So what they will probably be used for is spare parts. Yeah. Or unsuspecting folks who think they're buying a brand new phone and don't know they get one and then they get it and it's bricked.

13:50So, yeah, you got to be careful when you're buying phones in parking lots because they generally probably, you know, did not come legitimately. They fell off a truck that had been stolen. Exactly. in this case. Baidu announced that after rollouts of joint autonomous taxi service in Asia and the Middle East later this year in partnership with Uber, the company's next market will be Germany and the UK in 2026 in partnership with Lyft. That all pens regulatory approval, of course. Baidu provides the Apollo Go vehicles for these enterprises and Lyft will enable the booking system for riders. Lyft recently acquired a company called FreeNow, which has existing service in Germany and the UK.

14:31This is a really cool way that Baidu is getting into this market. They say, we'll build the cars. We know how to do that really well. We'll let everybody else work on the logistic systems. That literally is another business. I mean, to get as good as what Uber or Lyft have gotten doing what they do, you have to do what Uber or Lyft have done for as long as they've done it. So this is a good move from Baidu. They want to be in this market, but they don't have to make the systems they just have to build the cars yeah i i feel like with that shaping up we're i think in the next five years autonomous taxis are going to be a regular thing certainly in city centers uh and it seems like the industry is shaping up for car providers like baidu and waymo and then logistic services like grab taxi uber and lyft of course uh to to say like we're gonna have two parts of this the companies that make the cars probably aren't as good as at the ride hailing as the companies that do the ride hailing and those companies either never did or gave up on the idea of developing their own cars.

15:32Malicious hackers are always attacking something and in June and July they targeted link wrapping services from security company Proofpoint and cloud communications company Intermedia to get users to visit phishing pages that tricked them into entering their Microsoft 365 credentials. The attackers compromise email accounts protected by Proofpoint and Intermedia. They shortened malicious links and then send them from a compromised account, which would wrap the link. The link wrapping is meant to rewrite URLs to a trusted domain that scans them to block malicious destinations. The shortened URLs protected them from detection and the link wrapping made them look legitimate to recipients.

16:07Cloudflare's email security team discovered the practice. Yeah, this is a good news. They stopped this, but if you clicked on a link in June and July, you might have gone to one of these phishing pages. And the link wrapping was the thing that's new here, right? Using a compromised account isn't new anymore, but wrapping that link so it's harder to tell if you're looking at the link that it's not a real link is the key. That's the problem. You know, we, the end users, we have a hard time winning for losing because we're told, what do you do? Make sure you look at the links and it needs to say that it's who it says it's from.

16:42So we're doing that and now you can't even do that anymore. It's like you just need to know that the links you're clicking on are from a trusted place. You just cannot click on links regardless of whether they look legitimate or not. Yeah, the advice is go enter the link yourself. Don't click on a link from someone unless you're 100 ,000 % sure that that's safe. But if you enter the link yourself, don't copy it. Don't look at the email and then enter that link. But go to the domain yourself, and then you should be a little fine. But that's inconvenient, right? A lot of times it's way more convenient to be like, yeah, but I want to get right to that one page, et cetera, et cetera.

17:19We have a couple more developments in the ongoing saga of game platforms delisting adult titles and blaming payment processors for having to do so. First, itch.io is re-adding some adult games as long as they're free and even advising some companies like make your game free and then we can relist you. Those do not need to go through payment processors, so they feel like they can do that. Meanwhile, MasterCard released a statement saying, quote, MasterCard has not evaluated any game or required restrictions of any activity on game creator sites and platforms, contrary to media reports and allegations.

17:58Pay very close attention to the words they use there. PC Gamer did a great job of untangling seemingly contradictory statements from multiple parties because Steam and Valve are saying it's the payment processors. The payment processors like Stripe and PayPal say it's because of the credit card companies. It's because of the banks that they work at. And now MasterCard saying, oh, it's not us. Alternative payment processors like companies like Veritel and CC Bill do accept credit cards and still can process payments for these adult titles. Valve says that the payment processors like Stripe and PayPal did put the pressure on them.

18:35and they told Valve that it's because of MasterCard's rule 5.12.7. This is why I said pay attention to their words. That rule says that a merchant must not submit illegal transactions or any that quote in the sole discretion of the corporation may damage the goodwill of the corporation or reflect negatively on the marks. And the marks of course in this case mean the trademarks of the credit card company, that MasterCard logo. So if I'm reading all this correctly mastercard is able to say it's not evaluating games it's not evaluating game platforms like valve or itch.io but it is pressuring payment processor partners not to process transactions that would harm the mastercard brand and you've got an activist group called collective shout out there providing the basis for the idea that the brand could be harmed which could also explain why veritale and ccbill can get away with this because collective shout isn't going after them, they're going after Steam and they're going after H.io.

19:37So this is one of these situations where MasterCard is saying, no, we're not evaluating any games. They're going right to the payment processor and saying, let me holler at you right fast. We're not evaluating games, but don't you do anything that makes us look bad. In fact, don't you do anything that we think that you might think might make us look bad. And that's how they keep their hands clean of it. So yeah, Microsoft or Microsoft, uh, MasterCard is not telling, you know, folks that we, we evaluated these games and they can't be on our system. They're telling the people who process, we're not evaluating anything, but you need to make sure that we remain happy in this relationship.

20:11Yeah. And as PC gamer pointed out, uh, putting pressure on MasterCard to accept games that you think are legal. Like we're not talking about illegal games. We're talking about legal games here, uh, could then cause MasterCard to go, well, we are damaging our brand either way. and maybe they'll shift their emphasis. We'll see. OpenAI says it now has 5 million paying users, up from 3 million in June, and ChatGPT now sees 700 million weekly active users, which is four times what it had this time last year. Meanwhile, Bloomberg's Mark Gurman says Apple has formed a new team called Answers Knowledge and Information to make an app like ChatGPT.

20:49It could end up being a standalone app or a feature inside Siri, Safari, or other Apple products. Basically, they're starting over from scratch. is what German's saying. Starting over from scratch a few years late and their CEO is saying things like, we have to win an AI. Good luck. Yeah. Good luck. They're not ruling out M &A as you and I have talked about before. Cook said that last week. On DTNS Live, I put forth the idea, what if OpenAI and Apple merge? That could solve Tim Cook's succession problem. It could solve OpenAI's cash problem. I just want to hear some credible rumors on that. I know that that was you just kind of having a thought experiment thinking about it.

21:30That's just me coming up with an idea. It's just you coming up with an idea. But please, let's hear some news on this. Let's, you know, let's hear some rumors. Credible rumors. That would be great to talk about. Maybe I'm manifesting it. I don't know. Recently, both here and on our live stream, we talked about Delta's plan to, in the words of its president, Glenn Hounstein, have a price that's available on that flight on that time to you the individual using an algorithm to determine it aka AI pricing for you now those recent stories caused US lawmakers to send some questions to Delta and their VP and Chief External Affairs Officer Peter Carter responded in a letter saying that quote there is no fair product Delta has ever used is testing or plans to use that targets customers with individualized prices based on personal data.

22:23Carter further explained that the algorithm uses aggregated data that, and again, I'll quote, provides informed insight for our analysts. Carter says the company is evaluating the system, which works with tech from a company called Fetcher, and said that Delta does not share personal information with Fetcher. So I think he's trying to downplay the idea like we're not having AI look at you and say you, Rob Dunwood, are booking a flight and we're going to give you a different price, but they are taking into account all the data they know to dynamically change the price, which airlines have always done.

22:58This just allows them to do it faster. So here's the problem. When we reported this a couple of weeks back, you know, you know, talking about this, it just seems like Delta was very gleeful in telling Earth, we're going to charge you more and use AI to do it. So they may have allowed some people to kind of run rampant with their imagination to think what was going to happen. And when you, when you've got to come back and with legalese, you know, legalese in your statement, very, very clearly tell folks what you are not going to do. You've already missed the mark here. So, um, I don't trust anything Delta would say at this point until I see it in proof that you're, you're not doing these things because you may not be using this technology to target me directly, but are you targeting people in my zip code?

23:43Are you targeting people, uh, you know, you know, you know, where I'm calling from, you know, where I live, you know, those are the kinds of things that puts this into that gray area that, uh, Delta, I was really shocked that they said this so gleefully, this, this could have been something they didn't have to announce because there's no benefit to them and making the announcement in the way that they did. Well, this is a common thing that happens these days, uh, in this world where everything catches fire and goes across social media in half a second, Glenn Hounstein was talking on his earnings call to his investors.

24:12And in his mind, he was saying things that investors would love to hear. We're using AI and it's going to increase revenue. And here's how. And that's why he was so gleeful. But you have to remember that anything that's public, you're talking to the entire world at once these days. And that story took off. It is not a surprise that Delta would target you based on your zip code because they already do that they already use your ip address to say ah people in this ip address tend to pay more for fares bring that fare up it's not targeting you directly but it's doing that using ai to take more of those kinds of signals into account without knowing who you are but to say we can give a better price to this person is why vpn companies often say like you can get a cheaper fare on your airfares by using a vpn right uh so i i i think this is actually less than he was saying, which is like, we're using this tool or testing this tool to kind of see if we can refine that dynamic pricing that we already do.

25:10But the way he said it, in other words, to play it up to investors, made it sound a lot worse to the rest of the world. It definitely did. It literally made it sound like, hey, we have figured out a way to charge people more for the same stuff we were already charging them as much as we could for. Investor speak yes public speak no yep it's a it's a fine line it's a if there even is a line anymore between those two speaking of prices we have the amounts of the new price hikes on nintendo products in the u.s the original switch goes from 300 to 330 the oled original switch goes from 350 to 400 and the switch light from 200 to 230 nintendo also raised prices on several controllers the switch 2 dock set and the Nintendo sound clock alarm.

25:56The price of the Switch 2 itself remains unchanged. Meanwhile, Nintendo is running a survey to ask users how they feel about digital games versus physical games, including the digital key cards. Yeah. I don't think it means they're not going to do the digital key cards. It means, how can we message it that you are less mad that we do digital key cards? And these prices, these are pretty much in line to what I would have expected, honestly. Yeah, I mean, tariffs are real. things cost more to ship. Therefore, they're going to cost us more to buy. TechCrunch has a write-up on a company called OpenMind that is building a software layer called OM1 that it would like to be seen as the android of robot operating systems.

26:37OpenMind was founded by Stanford professor Jan Lippart. It launched a new protocol Monday called Fabric that can let a robot verify identity and share context and information with other robots. In other words, determine what the other robot is, and then be able to share information so they can learn faster. Like, oh, everybody here is speaking Spanish. Here's how you speak Spanish. Let me teach you that was one of the examples they gave. OpenMind will ship its first 10 OM1 powered robotic dogs by September for testing in people's homes. They want to gather data on how it works, how it doesn't.

27:08There's going to still be big manufacturers or robots that are going to have their own proprietary stuff. But for everyone else that is just trying to dip their toe into the market this is probably not a bad idea if you can have a operating system that's a single language that everybody can learn how to code for and do things for i think it just makes the industry move along a little faster than if everyone had their own individualized operating system yeah especially for consumer oriented things or maybe some embedded system sort of things that would be in the enterprise but you know you want to spend your money on the hardware development not on the operating system uh i'm i'm not saying om1 will be the one i'm sure there's a A lot of other folks working on similar sorts of things, but this one's got some good backing and got some good features.

27:48And certainly, you know, getting written up by TechCrunch is not going to hurt it. Vietnam's EV maker VinFast began operations at a new plant in India on Monday. The plant will source parts locally and is fulfilling orders for India, as well as customers in nearby Sri Lanka, Nepal and Mauritius. It can make up to 50 ,000 EVs per year. VinFast has also a plant in Indonesia set to go online later this year and production in the U.S. to start by 2028. Yeah, that's a little later than they were expecting in the U.S., but I know everybody's like, are they going to move manufacturing to the U.S.? And they certainly intend to.

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30:12We end every episode of DTNS with some shared wisdom. Today, Jason has a tip and Kevin has an incredible coincidence. Yeah. First, Jason wrote in, he was one of several people who pointed this out. In DTNS last week, we covered why politicians hate iOS 26. We had Justin Robert young on to talk about it because a person can have political messages go to unknown senders and then not get notified about it. And so political spam, which can't be blocked as spam legally in the US in other ways, could be blocked by the sender that way. Jason pointed out there is a feature in iOS 18 right now, and Jason has had it enabled since It's 18.5.

30:54If you go into settings, go into apps, then messages, then notifications, then customized notifications. So it's a little more buried than the one in iOS 26. There is an option to allow notifications from unknown senders that is enabled right now. You can turn it off and then notifications for unknown senders will be turned off. It's a little less robust than the one in iOS 26, which has a folder and everything for that stuff. But you could stop being bugged by it. You could stop seeing the little red number show up and all that sort of stuff. Jason says, as soon as I found that option, I turned that bad boy to off.

31:33I realize there's not long before iOS 26 comes out, but hopefully this tip will give some people a little peace and quiet from political notifications in the meantime. And then Kevin says, as incredible as it may sound, I literally got a political spam text message that came in while I was in the process of listening to the recent podcast about political spam text messages. The iPhone dutifully paused the podcast to try and read out the spam text message to me. This change cannot come soon enough. Keep up the good work, Kevin. I don't use an iPhone, but I would be searching for this setting as quickly as I possibly could to turn it off because it's just too much.

32:11I don't, it's weird to say, but I don't want stuff from people that I don't want stuff from. And if I don't know that I want it from you, you're probably should just go on the list that you should never be able to contact me. It's kind of a hard stance on it, but I just, I just don't want the spam. I just don't want the messages. Yeah. And I like the way iOS 26 is going to handle it where they'll put it in a folder for you. So you can look through it real fast and make sure something didn't slip in there that you did want to see. And then just bulk delete the rest. Politicians and candidates running for office don't like it because they make a lot of money sending text messages to people and would have to do education to get people to accept these messages.

32:48And that's not going to increase the amount of money they get. I'm actually going to go on politics, politics, politics with Justin Robert Young and talk to him and Michael Cohen, a different Michael Cohen than maybe you're aware of. This guy talks about campaign finances to discuss the implications of all this later this week, because it really has caught the attention of people in the political world. It definitely has. Folks, we want to know what you're thinking about. So if you've got some insights into a story, share it with us at feedback at dailytechnewsshow.com. A big thanks to Jason and Kevin for contributing to today's show.

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