Microsoft Breaks a Patch Tuesday Record - DTNS 5287

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2:35Sarah Lane: today microsoft issues its biggest patch tuesday ever boom is it because of automated exploit discovery or a rogue researcher called Nightmare Eclipse. I have my opinions. I'm Tom Merritt. And I'm Sarah Lane. Let's start with what you need to know with that big story. It was the biggest patch Tuesday ever yesterday. Microsoft releasing fixes for a record 206 security vulnerabilities in Windows, depending on how you count. I've seen some other people say close to 200 or whatever. But there were 39 critical vulnerabilities. 63 of the 206 involved privilege escalation. 56 involved remote code execution.

3:2030 were about information disclosure. 27 spoofing. 20 security bypasses. 7 denial of service bugs. And 3 tampering vulnerabilities. Exploit code for at least 3 of these vulnerabilities is already public. Meaning if they aren't patched now, they could be used by attackers. You might hear those called zero-day bugs. So three zero-day bugs, at least. Microsoft says one of the zero days, a denial of service vulnerability in web servers was reported by OpenAI's codex. However, two of the zero days, fixes for green plasma and mini plasma, if you've heard of those, appear to come from a security researcher who goes by Nightmare Eclipse.

4:00Well, the fixes came from Microsoft, but they're fixing vulnerabilities released by Nightmare Eclipse. Nightmare Eclipse has been releasing exploits for various Windows flaws. because there's beef between Nightmare Eclipse and Microsoft. Nightmare Eclipse says they tried to responsibly disclose, and Microsoft did something bad. It's a little vague what. And so to get back at them, they're just releasing the code. Microsoft says that they have not been responsible in the disclosure. There's actually one called Yellow Key that Microsoft mitigated but did not patch in Patch Tuesday yet. And there's a few others from Nightmare Eclipse out there.

4:37Nightmare Eclipse also claims to be a former Microsoft employee and therefore released info and code for an exploit of a race-conditioned defender to celebrate Patch Tuesday. So we got one more on the pile. They've also teased a drop of multiple exploits coming on July 14th. None of this includes browser flaws, by the way, because Microsoft's browsers are based on Chromium. Those get issued outside of Patch Tuesday. It's an estimated that about 360 patches from Microsoft came for the browser as well. Brian Krebs notes that Microsoft isn't the only one. Adobe and Google also pushed out hundreds of bug fixes for their products as well.

5:17Sarah, I know over at CISO Series, you've been covering this nightmare eclipse person. I don't even know if it's a guy. Right.

5:26Sarah Lane: Or is it even one person? Yeah, right. Maybe it's three hedgehogs in an overkill. We're doing it really well in this situation. But yeah, we have been covering this. And as you pointed out, Nightmare Eclipse says, I told Microsoft about this stuff and they ignored me. So, you know, for the better of humanity, I'm putting it all out there. Microsoft obviously disputing those claims, saying, no, that's not what happened. We don't really know what happened. But what we do know is that Nightmare Eclipse is real good at this stuff. So whether or not they were a former Microsoft employee or just saying that to make it seem like, well, of course I would have all this insider information.

6:07Sarah Lane: This is good stuff. We're all better for it. Yeah, I mean, it would be better if it was responsibly disclosed and patched before it was released for people to exploit. But next best thing, it is interesting to see a lot of the security community rally to defend Nightmare Eclipse. Microsoft was threatening legal action, and there was such backlash that they backed off on that. But there's also a lot of security researchers saying, well, the number of patches here isn't because of Nightmare Eclipse. That's a few of them, certainly the zero days. But the number is because of AI, that Microsoft is using tools like Codex and Mythos to find more bugs, and that we're going to continue to see these gigantic number of bug fixes coming from all kinds of companies.

6:53Sarah Lane: Yeah, responsible disclosure, that's its own conversation. But otherwise, all these little fixes, sometimes they're little, sometimes they're actually pretty significant. But all this stuff that has just gone by the wayside, you know, it's just security researchers doing their thing, but just missing things here and there. To have something more ironclad going forward is always, in theory, the right call. And honestly, Microsoft threatening legal action against an entity that they don't even... I mean, maybe Microsoft knows who this is, but it kind of makes me chuckle a little bit. Like, all right, well, or work with them and make your product stronger.

7:38Well, I mean, if Microsoft's contention is they aren't trying to responsibly disclose, in which case they would have a case to stop them from maliciously releasing something. The security community seems to want to defend them. I get the sense, like you said, that Microsoft knows who this is, especially if it is, in fact, a former Microsoft employee. And I feel like the security community has a good idea. Probably a lot of them do know who this is and know what the real story is going down. But I do think it is pointing towards a hopeful future where using generative models helps us find more bugs than humanly possible for us to just do one at a time as humans.

8:19They're not things that you couldn't find as a human. You just don't have enough time in the day. And so these tools can do it faster. Leads us to more secure software out there and fewer exploitable bugs. And that would be a good thing.

8:29Sarah Lane: Indeed. Yeah. There were also some new features pushed, including support for Bluetooth LE audio broadcast that lets two users listen to the same audio from the same Windows device and the ability for multiple apps to access the same camera stream at the same time. So Patch Tuesday, it's not just the bug fixes. Well, we're all about the little bug community that we all have here. I don't really know why I'm calling us bugs, but I'm just going to go with it. DTNS is made possible by all of you listening. Whether you identify as a bug or not, thank you to Sardonis De La Croix, Jim Hart, Mike Akins, and Norm Fazekas.

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11:56All right, we got more to talk about. Let's get to the briefs.

11:58Sarah Lane: Let's do it. Google released Gemini 3.5 Live Translate. That's an audio model for near real time translation. Not exactly, but pretty close of more than 70 languages. Doesn't need to wait for a speaker to finish before starting to respond. So that's nice if you're on a call, that sort of thing. It can continuously generate speech, balancing the need to translate immediately with the need to wait for context to translate accurately. It should be only a few seconds behind and match the tone and the pace and the pitch of that original voice. It's available in the Google Translate app for Android and iOS now in private preview for Google Meet for select Workspace subscribers.

12:39Sarah Lane: Developers can access it in public preview in the Gemini Live API. Yeah, this is pretty good. The demonstration they have a video of is for Google Meet, but obviously you could use this in person as well. Just have a headset in, or if you're on Android, you can just have the speaker out and just be hearing it. But it seems to be as fast as like the United Nations translators, if you've ever seen video as those, they're always just a little behind. And part of that is because some languages put the verbs at the end. So you don't know if you're translating it in English, we'd put the verb right after the subject, right in the middle of the sentence.

13:17You can't do that till you've heard the end of the sentence.

13:20Sarah Lane: Exactly. And that's why translators, human translators are so fascinating to me because it's like, you can't just translate. If I start a sentence with the cat did, it's like, no, we need context. So they're always going to be a few seconds behind. But when you're good at it, you're really good at it. I am continuously impressed with what Google is doing with live translate. clearly the company wants, you know, it wants the babble fish. It wants the, it's, it's near, near real time translation. And, and yeah, the, the, um, example that they did show with Google meet was between three women. One was, uh, I don't know if she was in the U S but American English.

14:08Sarah Lane: Uh, then we had a Chinese speaker at Mandarin and then a Swedish speaker and they were all talking to each other. And again, they're on like a work call. So it's not sort of like out in the real world type thing, but it was very impressive. Yeah. And the tone and the cadence did match, at least in the demonstration, which is nice, right? That gives a feeling of what the person means. You can change your meaning by your tone, not even just in tonal languages like Mandarin, where it's very important. If you're yelling at me, I want to hear it. Yeah, exactly. The old thing of like, dude, dude, dude.

14:44You can convey a lot with tone, so that's important. But it isn't your voice yet. That would be the next step, is where it can actually clone your voice and it sounds like you. There are services that can actually do that, but they have to be trained on your voice briefly. It doesn't take much. So I wonder if Google will ever stick that one in there as well.

15:04Sarah Lane: i mean i guess if you were to say yes google you could you could access my boys my yeah yeah like my phone calls or something or or just go through some sort of a you know yeah usually the training you have to do for that those tools that i've used is like you know reading a 30 second passage it's not that big a deal but yeah should be opt-in let's put it that way yeah yeah uh foldable form factors are not just for phones, my friends. Logitech just announced a wireless travel mouse called the Mobi Fold. The mouse is stored folded in half. And then when you unfold it, it turns into kind of an arc shape like the Microsoft Arc, except the Microsoft Arc doesn't fold flat like the Mobi Fold does.

15:51Unfolding it powers it on, folding it back up turns it off. So that's nice. You can save battery life. You don't forget to turn it off. Supports three simultaneous Bluetooth Bluetooth connections, lasts up to 30 days on a charge. And so far, all the reviewers have said, I wasn't able to use it for 30 days and I never had to recharge it. So it seems likely you recharge it over USB-C. It's not replaceable batteries. And one minute of charging will give you 22 hours of use. So you can recharge it pretty fast. The hinge is supposed to be able to handle up to 15 years of daily use. And it is 80 bucks.

16:23Available now. It's not crazy expensive, but a little expensive for a mobile mouse, but you know, it's nice and compact. It seems nice.

16:31Sarah Lane: So I haven't used a mouse regularly. I mean, it's been decades at this point. I'm trackpads only. However, depending on what you're, especially if you're traveling, right? Because this is supposed to be like the mobile rig. Sometimes you just, you got to work with what you got. And this does feel like a pretty compact. The article that I read about it, I think it was from Engadget, said, you know, it's so compact that you can put it into like, not like a big pocket, but like a little pocket. Yeah, like a breast pocket. It would also fit into the big pocket. But yeah, it's a small, small form factor when traveling.

17:14Sarah Lane: And Tom, I know you're traveling later today. What do you think about this? Is this something you need? I've definitely tried to have mobile mouse before. My current Logitech M550L is packable, right? It's just a tiny little wireless mouse. I never take them with me. I never end up wanting to use them because when I'm traveling, I'm always in a cramped space, you know, like on an airplane or in a hotel bed or something. I just end up using the trackpad. This is really tempting though. I kind of want to try it just to see if it would make a difference. Yeah. I like the form factor too i i know there have been some mixed reviews of like well is it ergonomic yeah yeah because you're kind of it's kind of more of a claw rather than a flat right uh situation for your hand uh but uh i don't know if anybody wants to try it let us know yeah maybe i do i i'm letting you know i want to okay future live with it i want to try put it on the books uh yeah let's do it Scientists from Delft University of Technology and Waymo published a paper in Nature Communications on Wednesday detailing a new model of human driving capabilities for use by autonomous cars.

18:27Sarah Lane: The new model uses active inference. That's the theory that a driver, human driver, is always imagining what might happen next, taking action to stay in the safest and most predictable situation. Hopefully, if you're a good driver, this is how you drive as well. It will help understand better how humans react in accident scenarios, not just, you know, sort of a computer or AI. That should help autonomous systems predict them better before they happen and hopefully avoid more accidents. It can also be used for a wide range of other road behaviors. Waymo is making the model available under an academic non-commercial license that lets it be used for research, teaching, personal experimentation, scientific publication.

19:11Yeah, I love this. It's both able to help autonomous systems understand human drivers and actually help us understand human drivers better, but also helping the autonomous systems predict things better as well, because we do some things that the autonomous systems don't do as much.

19:26Sarah Lane: Well, and that's one of the things that I find. So I always talk about how many Waymos are around me. I mean, they're just everywhere. And, um, and I'm very comfortable with them now. And it feels like everyone else that's a human on the road and even pedestrians, nobody flinches anymore. We were just like, ah, we got used to it real quick, but there are times where I'm like, um, uh, you know, we're turning left, you know, like, is the Waymo going to go right after the red light? Cause that's what a human would do. Is that legal? Well, not necessarily. There are so many little just human-esque situations that I'm constantly watching for.

20:05Sarah Lane: How is it acting differently? And I think that really, it's not so much that the autonomous car has to act like a human. It has to know what the other human's going to do. Yeah. And I think it would behoove us to understand that the Waymo is going to act like a human as well. Like maybe a very law-abiding human, right? It might not do that left turn that you're talking about. But whenever I see them, and I live in Los Angeles too, so I see them all the time, I don't get surprised, but I do expect them to behave differently. That when I'm doing that, I'm predicting what's going to happen. When I see a Waymo, I'm like, oh, it's probably not going to do this, but it'll probably do that, which is different than if I think a human is driving when I assume it's going to do a different set of things.

20:48So making it closer to how a human works would be good too.

20:51Sarah Lane: Exactly. And it's not as if to say, well, someone's going to run a red light, so that Waymo better just wait there for that crazy guy. It's not about trying to double down on the worst parts of human driving behavior, but just knowing that they exist. Yeah, yeah. And just knowing that it's going to behave pretty similarly to the more conservative drivers, maybe, on the road. Well, yesterday we reported that Anthropic had released Fable 5, which is a Mythos-capable model with guardrails that will prevent it from being used for malicious reasons. Mythos, of course, is the model that Anthropic says can find security vulnerabilities, can discover other dangerous items.

21:34And so they've only been putting it in the hands of trusted organizations. They released a new model called Mythos 5 and updated those organizations. Fable 5, however, has guardrails, and we have a little more detail about how those work. Fable 5 uses classifiers for cybersecurity, biology, and chemistry that will automatically route dangerous requests to the weaker Claude Opus 4.8 model. That doesn't mean dangerous requests are okay. It means we're gonna route the request to a model that we know won't cause a problem, where Fable 5, if we let it answer, might. It might give you dangerous information.

22:11The idea is that response won't be used for malicious actors. In tests, Fable 5 scored 0 % success at responding to requests for offensive tasks. That's a good 0%. Every time you tried to get it to do something dangerous or respond with something offensive, it didn't do it. Testers worked for more than 1 ,000 hours and could not jailbreak it. That doesn't mean it can't be jailbreak, but a good amount of hours were put at trying to, and they couldn't. Anthropic also uses prompt modifications. So it'll steer vectors and parameter efficient fine tuning for certain prompts, especially related to pipelines and stuff like that.

22:48Anthropic does say the filters are intentionally too aggressive and will occasionally block harmful requests or harmless requests. And we've seen TechCrunch has an article about all the security researchers who don't have access to Mythos saying, I'm doing normal stuff and it's blocking me on Fable 5 and routing me to Opus. Like I'm just saying, I want to write secure code. And it's like, whoa, that sounds like security. You're a hacker. Yeah.

23:15Sarah Lane: It kind of reminds me, I know these are different things, but it reminds me of the olden days of spam. And, you know, you would have to check your spam folder often because depending on, you know, how you set up your parameters, because stuff would just get flagged for spam because people hated spam. We still hate spam and spam hasn't gone away. and spam filters are very different now. But I remember it was always like you would sign up for a new service and it would say, and if you don't get the email, check your spam filter because it's probably in there. And I often was. So I think that Anthropica is being smart by saying we're going to be extra cautious.

23:56Sarah Lane: And if you're inconvenienced by that, give us feedback. This all makes the platform stronger. but uh but but i am very impressed by the fact that it seems rock solid would not be the word i would use because there's always going to be somebody out there saying like hold my beer but but seems very solid yeah i i'm if i'm in anthropics pr department i'm much happier that tech crunch is writing a story about security researchers being upset with how aggressively safe my model is being versus the opposite, which we have seen many times of like, oh, they released this thing and people are misusing it for malicious ends.

24:38So I think Anthropic probably declares that a victory.

24:42Sarah Lane: Well, if you're using Mythos or anything that you're using at all, we actually would like to know what you would like us to review on an episode of Live With It coming up. This is the show that reviews products that we're actually living with, you know, for a week, not for a month, but for a long enough period of time that we have, we have some real thoughts. We also now have our own YouTube channel and, and as of last week, our own Patreon. To support Live With It as we have spread our wings and reviewing all the things, head to patreon.com slash livewithitshow. Is it Live With It Show or Live With It?

25:20For the Patreon, it's just Live With It. For the YouTube, it's Live With It Show.

25:24Sarah Lane: So indeed, yes. Live With It Show on YouTube, Live With It on Patreon. Let us know what you'd like to see on a future show because Roger and I are, we're kind of trying to look a few months ahead because that's what Live With It has to do. And we'd love your support. What color of Moby Fold should I buy to live with? What are your options? Lilac, sand, or black, or off-white? I would do off-white personally. Yeah, off-white. All right. I'm adding it to the cart now. Yeah. All right. There you go. An egg crew, an eggshell.

26:03Your team just added its 67th AI tool and also your 67th security blind spot. The good news? The Vanta agent works like a GRC engineer in the background, finding every app your team uses, scoring the risk, and drafting fixes for you. Vanta is the platform used by over 16 ,000 fast-moving companies like Ramp, Cursor, and Harvey, who are shaping the future with AI and staying ahead of AI risk. Get started at Vanta.com. Hey, it's Paige from Giggly Squad, and I want to let you know that if you want the newest and hottest beauty products, you have to go to Sephora. I'm obsessed with the One Size Liquid Blotting Paper Spray.

26:39It's the first of its kind blotting spray that mattifies for up to eight hours. It's unreal. There's also the Summer Friday Shade Drops SPF 50, which basically lives in my bag at this point. Oh, and the Kayali Eden plush pear smells so good. It's sweet, warm, and addictive. Like people literally stop me and ask what perfume I'm wearing, which you know I love. So if you want the makeup, skincare, hair, and fragrance products everyone's about to be obsessed with, shop only at Sephora.

27:11All right, let's get to the quick headlines. These are going to make you look smart. Trust me.

27:15Sarah Lane: Starting this week, Snapchat will restrict the stories and spotlight clips of users age 13 to 15 on their profile, where they can only be seen by mutually accepted friends. They won't be promoted to the wider Snapchat audience. The regional court of Munich issued a temporary injunction against Google, barring it from publishing false claims about two Munich-based publishers in its AI overviews feature. Now, courts generally don't hold search engines liable for the content of search results because they're published by someone else. but the court here determined that overviews are Google's own content, not search results, and therefore Google is liable.

27:53Sarah Lane: Photos on Weibo show the forthcoming Vivo X Fold 6. One shows it being held by prominent Chinese singer and actress Zhu Zhu, star of Cloud Atlas, Cloud Atlas rather, The Tale of Rose, among others. Very popular. Vivo is expected to launch its new foldable this month. Tale of Rose was good, and Cloud Atlas was okay, but it's a better book. Ahead of its IPO this Friday, SpaceX revealed the design of its Audible data center called AI1. Yep, that's what it's called. It is a 120 kilowatt liquid cooled satellite. Valve announced it will no longer sell physical gift cards for Steam after the current inventory sells out by the end of this year.

28:37Sarah Lane: Valve blames scammers abuse of physical gift cards for the end of this program, but it will continue to issue digital gift cards. This is why we can't have nice things. Insta 360's 8K Luna Ultra camera, a competitor to the DJI Osmo Pocket, is now available for$770. And if you're in the US going, well, that's a couple hundred dollars more than the DJI Osmo Pocket, it's because you can't get the Pocket in the US anymore. Linux Lite 8.0 arrives two years after version 7, built on Ubuntu 2604 Resolution Raccoon, Resolute Raccoon, switching from Chrome to Firefox because it wants to stay slim. Yeah, it is summer, you know.

29:20Linux is headed to the beach. Hot Linux summer. Yes, that's right. Hot, slim Linux light summer. NASA announced the crew for Artemis 2. I think it's Artemis 3, isn't it? It's Artemis 3, yeah. Which will test dock lunar landers from one or both Blue Origin and SpaceX late next year. Probably SpaceX. We'll see if Blue Origin can recover. Space shuttle veteran Randy Bresnik is the commander. And the rest of the crew includes European Space Agency's Luca Parmitano, famous for having his helmet start to fill with water while on a spacewalk at the ISS once. So that was a thing that happened. Oh, that doesn't sound fun at all.

30:00Sarah Lane: Luca's a brave man. Yeah, going back up. And NASA's Frank Rubio and Andre Douglas make up the rest of the crew. Bob Hines will serve as backup. Android support for Apple's airdrop over QuickShare is rolling out to the OnePlus 15. Previously, it was available for Google Pixels and Samsung Galaxy models. All right. Seattle City Council, which governs the city at the heart of the metro area that Amazon and Microsoft call home, voted unanimously to prohibit new data center projects for a year while it evaluates impacts on local resources. Meanwhile, Meta is partnering with Reliance Industries to build its first AI-related data center in India, the site of the world's largest single-site oil refinery.

30:45Let's see if they can make a carbon-neutral case for that when you've got an oil refinery right there. And in Good Things to Read, Semi-Analysis has a deep dive on China's Unitree. We mentioned that Unitree robots were featured in the Chinese New Year celebrations from China's state broadcaster this year. The article from Semi-Analysis talks about how Unitree on course to dominate worldwide robotics.

31:08Sarah Lane: We like to end every episode on this here DTNS with some shared perspectives from you. Today, Ben has a question, Tom. Yeah. And it's a very simple question. Ben wrote, why can't it just be Siri? Why add AI? Yeah, because it technically already was. Well, and that was my response to Ben. I was like, hmm, yeah, Siri already was AI. So you could take Ben's question two ways. One, the way I took it was, why are they calling it Siri AI? Just keep calling it Siri. It could also be like, why can't it just be Siri? Why add more AI to it? I think that is the less defensible question because it's like, well, if it makes it more capable and it's better finally, then I think that's smart.

31:57Sarah Lane: For people who were like, oh, Siri sucks, or I never used it, then it feels like a different product. It's like, oh, Siri AI is the new thing, which it is. So I do get that, but I'm with you, Ben, that AI fatigue, as far as naming nomenclature, very real. I also, I mean, OpenAI is rumored to be, and this is different, but rumored to be doing an overhaul of ChatGPT. And it's like, please rename it. Do we have to call it chat GPT? I know we're all used to calling it that, but that's a terrible name. Let's name it something else that isn't AI. Just call it, I don't know, Fred or call it something.

32:40Sarah Lane: But yes, everything AI is kind of like everything plus. It starts to feel like we're not trying very hard to name things. Yeah, yeah. Just it's like, yeah, calling everything plus. That's exactly the same kind of thing. Well, if you're thinking about anything that we've talked about on this show or about anything we might talk about on a future show, please do share it with us. We always read your feedback and it makes our show smarter. Feedback at DailyTechNewsShow.com. Thank you to Ben for contributing to today's show. Thank you for being along for Daily Tech News Show. You're the folks who keep us in business.

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