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2:40This is the Daily Tech News for Wednesday, June 3rd, 2026. We're here to tell you what you need to know, give you some important context, and try to help each other understand. Today, Microsoft launches an operating system for agents based on Android. That is not a sentence I was predicting this year. I'm Tom Merritt. And I'm Sarah Lane. Let's start with what you need to know with the big story. So while we were recording yesterday's show, Microsoft was continuing in its two and a half hour march through its Microsoft Build keynote. And a few more interesting things came out of it that we are going to talk about now, including that new operating system that is not based on Windows.

3:22Project Solara is an AOSP-based OS. That is the Android open source project. So it is Android-based, but it's not a Google version of Android. It's the open source version of Android. But it's also not Windows. It is, however, designed to run your choice of agents. Whatever agents you want, it can run. This is something we've been hearing about as an idea from Google, OpenAI, and others. You don't need apps. You just need agents. Microsoft's version takes advantage of Microsoft services. So it will use Microsoft Defender, Intune, EntraID. This is very enterprise-focused stuff, but if you're in that world, that's good to know.

4:00And then it uses agents to create the interface on the fly, as needed. Whatever device you're using, it'll create an interface for it, so they don't have to design one. They call this just-in-time UI. And to be clear, Microsoft does not have any shipping products yet. It is just getting the jump on sharing what it's developing. Microsoft has two working prototypes that it showed off that run Project Solara's OS. The OS, by the way, is called the Microsoft Device Ecosystem Platform, or MDEP. That is a very Microsoft name. I am proud of them for their consistency. Good work. Yeah. There was a desktop hub that responds to your voice and authenticates you with your face, can tell you your most important items of the day, that kind of stuff.

4:48And it can either pair with a Windows machine over ultra wide band, or if you add a USB-C monitor, it can act like a Windows machine running in the cloud. That one runs on a media check chip. Then they showed off a wearable badge that has a touchscreen. So it's like an employee badge, but it has a screen, also has Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, and 5G, and authenticates with a fingerprint that has a camera to be able to act on what it sees. So you touch it with a fingerprint to make sure it knows it's you, and then it can see around with the camera, has an on-device agent, of course, that can record and transcribe conversations.

5:23That one runs on a Qualcomm chip. Microsoft plans to share these reference designs with partners who will then make the devices. Microsoft says it doesn't want to make the devices itself. They demonstrated the badge in a healthcare scenario where you would scan a patient's QR code, record your discussion with them, record their vitals all in one thing, and the agent would make a nice report out of it. But the same device could also be sold as a traditional office badge and then used for meeting notes and brainstorming and that kind of thing. Microsoft also has ideas for smart glasses, rings, earbuds, scanners, other form factors that you you might guess.

5:59Overall, this is a platform focused on specialization rather than being an everything device. Your phone or even your smart speaker wants to be everything. Microsoft saying this Project Solara-based system is meant for very specific use cases. And they're going to have people trying it out. They say AccuWeather, Best Buy, CVS Health, Levi's, and Target are all on board to start pilots of the devices based on MDEP. Now, don't get confused with Best Buy and target in there. I assume that is for their inventory management and office work, not something that they're going to sell to people. But Sarah, kind of surprising to see Microsoft get into a different operating system that's not Windows-based.

6:39Yeah. I mean, the idea of Microsoft working with OEMs is not unlike Microsoft. I mean, the company's been doing that for a long time. But yeah, this sort of not all-in-one device, a specialized device. And just in that vein, I'm currently trying out the Plod Note Pro, which is going to be a live with it episode in the future. And so I'm very interested in the – this is not something that you pin on your lapel, but you carry it with you. and you can record stuff and it will do its best to say like, okay, this is what your conversation was about, whether it's work or personal based. What I want to know is the camera aspects of Microsoft's promise of entering into this category.

7:36It's like, yeah, if you work at Best Buy, I can absolutely see why inventory and, and, you know, taking a photo or video or something, would be helpful. Day-to-day stuff, I'm not totally sure. I'm not totally sure how much that would be useful for me. Again, I don't work in an office environment where I'm having lots of meetings. I mean, DT &S, we have meetings here and there. But this feels like just much more kind of enterprise use, consumer, consumer focused, but enterprise use. Yeah, I think it's workplace oriented, right? Like at least all their examples were. And I feel like it isn't, they're making a point.

8:21And I think it's a really smart point that not every device has to be an everything device. And in fact, it won't be as good if it's an everything device because you pick it up to do one thing. How many times have you picked up your phone to do something and then you see a notification and you get distracted and then you forget why you picked it up in the first place, right? Yeah. Microsoft's like, we don't need that in your employee badge. But yeah, a camera would be useful for just being able aware, like, how do I get up to the lab? And it's like, oh, the elevators are right over there. So walk forward 100 feet, you know, and then take the elevator to the third floor.

8:52I can see all of that being useful. And the agents will be better if they are tailored as well. uh llms in general don't do as well when they are very broad-based as they do when you hone them in on a particular area of expertise so i think microsoft's trying to jump the gun and mind share with this because they don't have anything even close to ready to ship and we know open ai is doing this we know google is doing this probably anthropic is doing it too we know there are other companies out there that are specializing in exactly this kind of thing uh so this is really Microsoft just wanting to make you think of them first when you hear about others doing this.

9:32Well, yeah, because then the other companies end up being sort of a me too. Yeah, right. Also - Perhaps. They'll be perceived that way. Like, oh, because they're following Microsoft. Yeah, I look forward to seeing some of the stuff. The desktop kind of personal assistant that is just a desktop, unless you want it to be more than that, is interesting also. But I see the use case. I really do. Yeah. And I think Microsoft's just trying to throw these out to say, hey, companies, come talk to us. If you've got an idea, we want to help you build your idea and your idea will help improve Project Solara and all of that.

10:10A few other announcements of note from Build. Microsoft Scout is an assistant built on the OpenClaw framework and running in Microsoft 365. This is for people who are afraid to run OpenClaw themselves because you'll get Microsoft's built-in security features, things like policy conformance system. But you get the advantages of all the adaptability and versatility of OpenClaw. And while it does run in the cloud, you can access it on your desktop or browser. So it can connect to your email and your calendar if you want. available to early adopters in the Microsoft Frontier program. And you do need to be a GitHub Copilot subscriber in order to use that one.

10:46Microsoft also announced seven in-house large language models, the flagship one being the MAI Thinking 1. It's a reasoning model with 35 billion active parameters and a 256 ,000 token context window. It compares favorably to Claude Sonnet 4.6 or Claude Opus 4.6. Also, they compared benchmarks to GPT 5.5. But the key is that Microsoft's new models were trained from scratch. They were not distilled from other models. So if you're worried about provenance of the training data, Microsoft can reassure you on that. These are available in private preview on Microsoft Foundry. And Microsoft said it used its own Microsoft Discovery Research platform to improve its quantum chip, major on a two, making it 2 ,000 times more reliable than the previous chip with qubits that last 20 seconds on average, up from milliseconds on average.

11:41And as a result, Microsoft says it's moved up its expected date for a scalable quantum computer from coming in 2033 to coming in 2029. One of the things I love most about this crazy era that we're in is all the terminology, quadrillion cubits, 2000X. It almost would have been in the past, you would say, well, you don't want to say it's 2000 times more reliable because then it indicates that the first version was not very reliable. But that's just our new reality. That's how quick we're moving. Quantum computers, yes, it's saying, well, you're coming from nothing to something. And everybody's been waiting for quantum computers to come out of the nothing phase of like, yeah, they technically work, but they can't do much.

12:31And Microsoft's saying, I think we've made it so it might be able to do things, which is, you know, again, quantum computers have been on our lips for how many decades now? And to actually see them start to enter practicality is pretty great. If anyone who works at Microsoft or has better knowledge than me, please let us know. But I asked Copilot this morning, how do you pronounce MAI? And it said my. Okay. Well, that's good to know. Thank you, Copilot. My. Oh, my. Get it? Yeah. Because it's sort of. Very not Microsoft. It should have just been thinking Microsoft thinking model. Yeah. Right. Well, all of you do help us get smarter all day, every day.

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16:07All right, there's a lot more to get to. Let's talk about the briefs. Let's do it. Google said Wednesday it's testing a toggle inside the search console that will let a website execute its domain from AI overview. Exclude, rather. Not execute, but exclude. With extreme prejudice. From AI overview responses. Yeah, so basically letting people say, I don't want to be part of this. The test will begin with a subset of domains in the UK before rolling out globally. The UK Competition and Markets Authority, also known as CMA, announced on Wednesday it will require Google to let publishers opt out of their content being used to power AI features like AI overviews.

16:48People really don't like AI overviews. Yeah, I mean, obviously it's the UK regulation that is causing them to do this. I feel like this is a little bit of sour grapes because what the UK Competition and Markets Authority and what the publishers want is we want to be paid. If you use our content, you should pay us for it. And Google is making deals with publishers to do that. But some publishers are holding out or just don't want to be using it. And so Google is saying, great, well, then you can turn it off entirely. And then none of your stuff will ever show up in AI overviews, which as those AI overviews are being used more and more for good or ill, more people are using them.

17:28That means your content will not show up in those answers, which is not good for publishers. I think it's good that Google is giving people control over how their information is used. I have no problem with that, but it's a little bit of a careful what you wish for situation and also not what the publishers are going for. The publishers are going for some kind of negotiation over rights and Google's like, well, then you can just take your ball and go home. That's fine. Well, and to be fair, AI overviews, because I use them more and more because I like to see sort of like, what does it look like?

18:03Oh, let's do the AI version of this. Yeah, let's see the difference. Yeah. All the links are in there. Now, they are sort of deprecated, I guess, in a way. They're smaller. They're smaller. And you and I are in the business of checking sources and who said this first and all that stuff. So sources are very important to me. And I'm like, they're all there. They're just arranged in a different way. But I completely understand where the average person who is just sort of like, hey, I want to know, you know, like, give me like a like a just a little paragraph about this news item that I'm interested in or, you know, this and that.

18:46I get why this is going to upset a lot of people and already has been. Yeah. And it's if publishers turn this off, then they're going to get even less traffic. Like, you know, I mean, not that the AI overviews are generating that much traffic, but withdrawing all the way I don't think is helpful. And I don't think it solves the problem either. Well, it's like, I mean, when's the last time you, you know, I don't know, you know, think of any sort of just general Google query that you, you know, entered, like, what is the status of the Mets game right now? You know, that sort of thing. and it's like and then you get like a bunch of links and you sort of pick the one that you think is going to be the most helpful uh that is google trying to be like no we're going to be more helpful to you all those links don't get clicked on though and so it's like it's like who wins here i think i think the end user kind of wins because it's like well i got the answer i got the answer i was looking for and i got it fast so i don't i don't know how which is why the publishers want a deal like we'll we're fine with you doing that if you pay us for the data that you got Exactly.

19:52Speaking of those kinds of issues, the European Commission announced a tech sovereignty plan on Wednesday. This is an attempt to make sure that data stays in Europe, but also try to encourage innovation. It includes public money for the development of products that further independence from foreign tech firms, both the U.S. and China. cuts red tape for building data centers, creates a Eurocloud forum for sharing research and innovation, and encourages research through what it calls leadership innovations. I think that means not money. Part of the package includes the Cloud and AI Development Act.

20:28That would let the commission determine which countries are trustworthy enough to serve European public sectors. US probably would pass that, but there are some other places that they might want to negotiate with. Package of regulations and initiatives now goes to the national governments as well as the European Parliament. That's the way the European system works. They will review it and develop it and negotiate over the actual wording of it and produce a final version somewhere down the road. I mean, hey, if you get the money, build it and they will come, hopefully. Yeah, I think it's trying to solve two different problems.

21:05One is concern over privacy and data provenance. It's trying to make sure that the data stays protected and if possible in Europe, that's part of that AI Development Act is to try to keep data in Europe so it can't be accessed by foreign governments. But at the same time, trying to help Europe catch up because it's been falling behind in a lot of the technology races right now. And so it's like, let's make it easier to build the data centers. Let's cut the red tape. Let's try to help startups. Let's try to foster that and we'll see what the details are once it's gone through negotiations yeah i think i think anybody who's sort of skeptical about this would say well does that mean that uh you know companies under the sovereignty plan would not be able to collaborate with companies uh to to make both companies thrive even more um and that's not really clear at this point yeah i'll have to wait to see what the final text is before we could judge that for sure.

22:06Well, we do know that the Supernatural VR app, which I have been a fan of for quite some time now, is going to continue after all. You might recall that Meta kind of put it on the shelf, didn't take it down entirely, but everybody who was working on it was let go and you didn't get any new content on the app anymore. It has now been spun out of Meta as an independent company called Supernatural Health. That company sent an email to users. I did not get that email, by the way. On Tuesday, promising a new app coming this autumn. The existing app and its subscriptions will still end on December 3rd.

22:47So if you still love it and you still love the backlog of stuff, you don't have that much time. You know, better half of a year. Users need to switch to the new app when it launches at a higher subscription price of$20 per month versus the current$10 per month. And for sort of early adopters, of which I am one, you get a few bucks off. I got a$15 a month for the first year as a founding member. That's cool. Which was kind of nice. But yeah, I am thrilled because Supernatural is just like my VR everything. And I kind of stopped using it once I realized that it wasn't long for this world. not because there wasn't a backlog of stuff that I could play.

23:34And when I say play, you're exercising to a variety of themed songs and kind of genres and that sort of thing. Like you can do anything from classical music, hip-hop, country, R &B, rock. And there's a lot of that still in there, but the app is going away. And that made me sad. And I just kind of, I don't know. You're just too sad to exercise with it. Right. Yeah. I'm just going to eat ice cream instead. But yeah, knowing that it's coming back. And listen, I don't know if it's going to come back in the same vein. Supposedly, all of the coaches, which are a big part of the app, because they sort of walk you through everything and kind of, you know, they're motivating and, you know, have fun stories and stuff.

24:24They're all on board. Okay. So it sounds promising. But at the same time, we've all seen an app that is beloved that goes to a different company and all of a sudden does not work the same way. I feel like this is a good sign for VR. Meta is changing its priorities. It's realizing that it's not making the return on VR that it wanted. And it is shifting to AI in a huge way. There's no controversy about that. Ask Mark Zuckerberg directly if you could. I think he would pretty much agree. Uh, however, this went from, well, there aren't enough users to sustain the business model. If you don't have a huge company investing in it to actually there are enough customers to sustain it as its own enterprise, potentially we'll find out for sure.

25:12Right. Uh, so I think that's good news that somebody realized, you know what, there's a business here. Let's, let's not just throw it away. Let's, let's turn it into a company, uh, and see what we can make out of it. The question will become, will they be available for other platforms? Because if Meta stops investing in the Quest, somebody else is going to have to make a VR headset that you're going to want to use. And then Supernatural would have to be available on that headset down the road. The Quest will still be useful for several years, right? But for long-term viability, it's going to need that.

25:43So I assume it's going to be cross-platform once it's outside of Meta, for sure. I certainly hope so. And this just goes to show you that a small but very dedicated community can really move mountains. This is just one example of a bunch of people who say, yeah, we're not in the millions. We're in the thousands. But we love this. Please don't take this away from us. Yeah. And there's a viable business. Yeah. And we'll pay. We'll pay for it. Yeah, pay more in this case. Well, one of the reasons you know about Supernatural and the Quest is because you do live with it. Indeed. If you like product reviews, product reviews meaning hardware, software, platforms, anything from people who are actually using these products for a long enough time that we feel very solid about giving you advice about it, you have to join us on Live With It.

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28:30And now some quick headlines that are just good to know. might make you look smarter in the future. 404 Media reports that Google is operating a confidential program to buy the rights to Android code from Play Store developers in order to train its models. Apple announced it will open a new developer center in Berlin later this year that joins existing developer centers in Bengaluru, Cupertino, Shanghai, and Singapore. Google has released the Fitbit Air 2D CAD drawings to the public so you can make your own armbands or whatever else you want to go with the pebble-sized fitness tracker. Yeah, there were some people who were like, yeah, I bet they don't release them.

29:09Well, here you go. They released them. Yay. Android 12 is adding fake call detection. This will attempt to identify calls where the voice is generated, you know, by a large language model or something in order to impersonate someone. If it thinks that's happening, it'll warn you about it. Launches first on Pixel phones and then will go global by the end of the month and will be on by default once you get it. Meta is making its business support chatbot called Meta Business Agent available globally in WhatsApp and Instagram DMs. It can answer questions. It can make recommendations. It can book appointments and route customers to a person when needed.

29:47You know what else it can do? What? Be a revenue stream for Meta as they charge businesses to use it. So they talk to you. That Meta wouldn't do such a thing. I think they would. I was just talking to my friend, our friend Molly Wood, about how she missed the way sports used to be discussed on Twitter back in the day. And so I immediately sent her this link, TikTok, launching a standalone app called TikTok Pro Events, a curated feed of content around big cultural moments. There's some gamification in there. You can win points and stuff. And of course, it will start with the FIFA World Cup. I don't know.

30:25I mean, I think Molly has a point with sports Twitter, as we used to call it. It's probably still called that. But it was just sort of like it was the Wild West. People are just mad about sports. A curated version on TikTok is going to be a different experience. But yeah, maybe it'll scratch that itch. Yeah. I mean, I wonder how curated it will be. It could be just curated like, well, if it's about sports, we put it on there. which case it could have some of that more open conversation. If you prefer a more open style, however, Wander Console is an open source project that helps you explore interesting sites recommended by a community of indie website owners.

31:08It's kind of the modern air to web rings or even stumble upon. I want to do this. I think I might put this on the Daily Tech News show website. It's just a couple of pages you have to add. I just have to have a good enough idea because you want to have something on your little web element of it. That's fun. Pokemon Champions will release for mobile coming to iOS and Android on June 17th. You'll be able to continue where you left off on your Nintendo console if you have it for the Switch. And OpenAI announced new additions to its Codex app that take it beyond just coding. So sites let you share hosted web apps.

31:45Annotations is an in-place editing tool. Six plugins aggregate 62 business apps like Figma and Salesforce. The company says non-developers are adopting Codex three times faster than developers. And you know what? I agree with you, OpenAI, because I've been loving Codex lately. Yeah, see, this is their everything app. This is what they, it's just going to be called Codex, but it won't be about coding only as it goes. OpenAI also offered nine UK banks access to GPT 5.5 Cyber. That's OpenAI's version of Anthropics Mythos, the system that can find vulnerabilities. It offered to those particular nine UK banks because those banks were not offered access to Mythos in the latest expansion of Access to Mythos.

32:35Imagine the banker being like, oh, I want Mythos. Now I only have 5.5 Cyber. It's like mom bought me the Fox polo from JCPenney instead of the Ralph Lauren one. I want the Nikes. Google said it will expand its stewardship projects across 97 watersheds to make sure it's replenishing more water than it uses in its data centers and targets a 2030 timeline. Speaking of data centers, a JP Morgan analysis found that more than 60 % of data center capacity planned for completion next year hasn't begun yet. It's getting to be a little late in 2026 if you want to finish your data center in 2027. Companies facing things like supply chain issues, just not able to get the parts they need, not even just RAM, but, you know, wood and things like that.

33:24There's also permitting fights as there's a lot of local opposition sometimes. And of course, just difficulty provisioning the power, especially if you're trying to be responsible about it. Sometimes it's hard to find enough power to make the data center work. Well, we'd like to end every episode of DT &S with some shared perspectives. Last week, we talked about digital price science. Andrew B. says he has some beef with them. All right, Andrew B. Andrew B. writes, my issue with digital price science is dynamic pricing in general. With your Apple example, they're going to jack the price up the first week apples come in.

33:58By the way, we were talking about actual fruit. Actual apples that you eat. Not Apple the company. He said, the grocery store is going to jack the price up the first week apples come in to try and get people to pay more money. Then maybe some of the apples get cheaper over time. But now I'm in a situation where I have to think, oh, apples come in on the first Monday of the month. I've got to wait until the last Friday of the month to buy them. Who wants to do that? You're also going to get things like kids come in on Sundays with their parents grocery shopping. Let's make the candy more expensive.

34:28Why can't things just cost a fair amount? It will be like them jacking the normal price of an item 20%, then saying it's on sale 15 % all the time. Cloud, I'm yelling at you. Whether you're older or new. In fact, the police outside the house. The price police are coming, Andrew. Don't worry. They're on your side, Andrew. They really are. But yeah, no, I get this. Some of this is a little bit lost on me. And maybe it's because when I go to the grocery store, sure, I mean, they can change the prices, but it's like they're not digital prices unless you're doing a lot of shopping online. We were talking about digital price signage and how it makes it easier for them to change the price dynamic.

35:15Totally. Totally. I just don't know how many big grocers are doing that yet. More are doing it, which is why Andrew's like, I don't like it. I don't want to come to my grocery store. Oh, I don't like it either, Andrew. At the same time, it's like if you want to game the system, well, you're not really gaming it, but you're kind of riding the tide. Getting those apples on that Sunday rather than the Monday when they're the cheapest, you can sort of walk out of there feeling like you did something good. But yes, I'm with you on that. It's like I want to know what the price is. Tell me the price.

35:53Don't jerk me around. you know it's it's it's we have dynamic pricing i mean talk about gas prices that's that's a whole other thing but dynamic pricing has been around for a long time but uh but yes the idea that if you have a bunch of apples it's not that the apples are in short supply it's that depending on the day the week the you know the clouds outside all sorts of uh variables you can charge more and get away with it and people will buy it. And I don't know that a grocery store is really in the wrong for doing that. I mean, prices are all psychology. The reason the price gets lower later in the week is the apples won't be good for much longer.

36:39So when you buy them at the cheaper price, you better eat them faster because they're not good. They're going to spoil faster. and dynamic price. Maybe you're like, we will, we'll eat them faster. Sure. And then you should get a discount, but Oh, you're, you're thinking of it as a price rise, not a discount. You're getting a discount because the apples aren't going to last as long. It's all, it's all, that's what I say. It's all in the psychology of it. Dynamic pricing is the default state for human behavior. When you go to a market and somebody has$3 on something and you say, would, would you take two?

37:10And they're like, yeah, it's toward the end of the day. sure. That's dynamic pricing, but we don't think of it as being annoying because for some reason, when there's not a human involved, when it's just a tag, we think it's more impersonal and it bothers us more. And I'm not even disputing with Andrew. It bothers me too. But I try to remind myself like, yeah, it's just a disassociated version of what we normally do at any garage sale or marketplace or anything like that. It's just technology doing it, which for some reason does does bug you more. I don't know why that is. Well, robots. Yeah. It's the uncanny valley.

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