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3:02This is the Daily Tech News for Tuesday, July 8th, 2025. We tell you what you need to know, follow up in the context of those stories and help each other understand. Oh, and we need the help today. We're exploring the mystery surrounding that massive Bitcoin transfer from this weekend. and the audacious one plus makes a new hardware announcement did they not know samsung has a big one tomorrow pretty sure they knew that i'm jason howell i'm tom barrett let's start yeah it's okay let's start with what you need to know with big story that's what i was gonna say maybe what we need to do is like like do it at the same time to show like together with the big story.

3:45Yeah. I like that. OnePlus is getting some last minute product news love. Yes, like Tom said, before Samsung comes along and sucks it all away like a vacuum, they being OnePlus have launched five new products that they're announcing today. Only a few of those available in the US. So I figured we could start with the ones that are available here in the US and then talk about the other stuff after that. But first of all, And I feel like the one that I'm most interested in right off the top is the OnePlus Watch 3, now coming in a smaller 43-millimeter version. So they're offering a thinner, more compact design.

4:24Those of you with smaller wrists should be pretty, well, at least happier. I don't know if it's small enough to make everyone happy, but it's definitely smaller than the massive OnePlus Watch 3 that we got before. The angular design touches of the full-size Watch 3 are reduced, minimized, slash gone, so you won't find that around the crown. The battery life, though, is cut in half. That's not a good figure to have to say. From 120 hours to 60 hours, that's in standard settings. There are some new health and wellness features. That includes reproductive cycle tracking. $299.99. So$300, that's$100 less than the full-size Watch 3.

5:06And then just real quick, because there's not a whole lot to say about it, the U.S. also gets the Buds 4 earbuds. $129.99. They feature high-res audio, spatial audio, active noise cancellation, and available in two colors, green and gray. OnePlus has great earbuds. I'm a big fan of them, although they really, so many of them, it's hard for me to differentiate sometimes. sometimes. But OnePlus Watch 3, now not just a beastly size, but a little bit smaller. I don't know. You're probably firm in the Apple Watch camp, I'm guessing. Have you checked out the OnePlus Watch 3 at all? I thought you were going to say I'm firmly in the huge wrists camp, so I don't care about no small watches.

5:47No, I am Android Watch curious, but you're right. I do wear an Apple Watch. I wear a really old Apple Watch, so I'm kind of in the market for a new watch. So then I'm looking around for these things. Battery life going down 50 % when the size went down 7%. I guess the weight went down 23%. That's still not 50%. I'm a little curious about - A little weird. Although 60 hours is still a lot. Totally. That means you don't have to think about charging it every night. And if you want to do sleep tracking and all of that, it's less of an issue. So I still think 60 hours is plenty. 120 hours is great.

6:30But yeah, this is a nice looking watch. I wasn't attached to the angular design of the big one anyway, so that's not a big deal for me. Yeah. And I mean, actually, and I'm also realizing you can get the OnePlus Watch 3 for$350. So this might be just$50 less than$100. I might have gotten that mistaken. But still, nonetheless, 50 % reduction in battery sounds bad. But like you say, 60 hours out of a single charge is pretty awesome. I'm curious to know because the OnePlus Watch 3, the larger version, has the silicon carbon battery technology. So that's part of how they were able. Maybe they couldn't get that in a smaller form factor, you think?

7:10I mean, maybe. It's a total guess. I didn't look at that before we recorded the show. but I'm wondering if the smaller size plus a lack of silicon carbon might be the result of that. It is a strange, though, fact. It's a big drop. Yeah, it's a really big drop considering the smaller big drop is the reduction in size. But having said all that, the OnePlus Watch 3, the normal size version of it, is the watch that I wear on a daily basis. I absolutely love it. I've gotten super used to the fact that I only have to charge it every three to four days. And yeah, it's great. It does everything I need it to do.

7:43So I'm happy that they've addressed this because it is a beast. It's huge. Yeah. And I don't think anyone cares that the Buds 4 aren't that much different than the Buds 3. But it is a little bit better processor. You're going to get a little bit better battery life and a couple of better features. I think the form factor even changed a little bit with that concaveness. That little concave, which I got to say, because I've used a lot of OnePlus earbuds over the last handful of years. and having some sort of notch or something to differentiate. You know, if it's just the rounded kind of stem, it's really hard to know where the touch surface is, where the controls are done.

8:23So having that concave kind of tracking area, finger tracking area is probably pretty useful for that. So these are minor upgrades, but they're the kind of upgrades that are for people who were about to buy a watch and or earbuds to me versus a, oh my gosh, ditch your old one. You need this new one. Totally, yeah. Neither of these is about that. Now, outside of the US, a few Nord smartphones. Nord is kind of OnePlus's more budget-focused sub-brand, including the Nord 5 for 449 euros, a large 6.83-inch, 144 hertz OLED display, which sounds pretty awesome. Great for gaming, by the way. Snapdragon 8S Gen 3 processor.

9:10Yes, you get that AI-infused plus key replacement for the now-departed alert slider. May it rest in peace. Also, the Nord CE5, which is another step down, €349, uses a less capable, by comparison anyways, MediaTek Dimensity 8350 Apex system on a chip. So you get a lower resolution display. You don't get the plus key on that one. So that makes me think if you want a budget smartphone coming from OnePlus and you don't want any of the AI shenanigans, although I actually like the way OnePlus does AI on its phones, then this might be the one to get. You'll save some money and you won't have that AI button.

9:51And then finally, real quick, the Pad Lite, budget alternative to the Pad 3, 11-inch 2K display, 9340 mAh battery, pretty basic rear-facing camera starting at€229. So definitely budget territory. But again, OnePlus has really kind of shown itself in the last handful of years being great on design, great on delivering kind of key essentials on their hardware. And when it comes to the tablets, they're one of the few in Android tablet land that are putting out high quality hardware for not that much and kind of getting the essentials right. And so I think that's probably the case with the Padlight.

10:27Yeah. I think OnePlus has made a good business of grabbing the people who walk into the store without brand loyalty saying, I think I want a tablet. What do you have? And then someone can show them a really nice OnePlus looks good, has a good price, all that sort of thing. Honestly, I mean, the Nord CE5 probably still has a bunch of AI on it. It's not like you're avoiding it. You just don't have the key. And I don't have a sense of how many people use that key, honestly. Those types of features tend to be underutilized. Yeah. Well, I've been, you know, I've got right now I'm testing the CMF Phone 2 Probe.

11:01Actually, I just reviewed it on the show a couple of weeks ago. I still haven't moved off. So that actually says something about my continued use of it, even though I'm not reviewing it anymore. And, you know, a lot of their most recent devices do have their, at least on the Nothing brand, it has their version, which is called the Essential Key. And, you know, it is interesting because the different makers, you know, OnePlus, Nothing, they do similar but different things when it comes to the AI integrated features. and some of them seem to make sense to me and others don't, even though they do very similar things.

11:37And so I'm really curious to kind of see how that works on the OnePlus phones by comparison to nothing's phones, where I feel like for whatever reason, they do it right. It's trim enough. It's not kitchen sink feeling the way Motorola does it. But I don't know how much anyone, like you said, I don't know how much the wide majority of people are actually integrating with these things. I see and read and hear a lot of eye rolls on the internet about this stuff. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I sort of prefer the idea of hitting a button instead of speech because I don't accidentally hit that button as easily.

12:11But also, it is nice to just be able to say, hey, Google, you know, and have it react versus having to think, oh, I need to pick it up and find the button and press it. And honestly, I just don't think people use either method all that often yet. Maybe they will, but it's more of a thing that companies want them to use versus something people use regularly. Yeah, indeed. Well, folks, DT &S is made possible by you, the listener. You're our plus button. Yeah. Yeah. You are. That was good. I like that one. If that's a positive, then yes, that's what you are. A big thanks, Ali Sanjabi, AB Puppy, and Dale Mulcahy.

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16:45all right there's more we need to know today let's get to the briefs epic games just settled its antitrust lawsuit against samsung uh basically withdrawing the suit uh ending its legal dispute coincidentally just in time for this week's samsung galaxy unpacked event epic ceo tim sweeney announced the settlement though specific details about the agreement were not revealed. Epic had originally accused Samsung's auto blocker feature of preventing users from installing apps outside the Google Play Store and the Samsung Galaxy Store. And of course, Epic would like you to install their store, at least have that as an option.

17:22The feature had been activated by default on Samsung phones. With tomorrow's unpacked event, we'll get a chance to see if that default has changed or if Epic got some kind of special access when Autoblocker is active. Are they in the tent? I'm sure there will be plenty of people, journalists at the Unpacked event, checking for exactly this when they get their hands on some of the demo units to kind of see. Yeah, because there wasn't a whole lot said about it. It's kind of like, yep, we've reached an agreement. We're good. We're good. Anyways, moving on. Did we track Tim Sweeney's private jet to see if he flew to New York?

17:59I certainly didn't. I'm sure someone out there is working on that. He probably flies commercial, too. I don't know why. Possible. Yesterday, you, Tom, and Rob discussed the many Samsung leaks coming out ahead of tomorrow's big unpacked event, of course. But we're now hearing of another pretty big piece of potential news. According to further analysis of the marketing materials that were leaked by Roland Quant that I believe you spoke about yesterday, It appears that the Galaxy Z Fold 7 might not actually have support for the S Pen this go-around. Previous generations have supported a special S Pen Fold Edition stylus, but the leak doesn't mention it anywhere on all of the materials, any sort of support whatsoever for S Pen.

18:47It doesn't come up once, and so kind of lends credence to the idea that maybe this might be the Fold that no longer offers support for S Pen. So S Pen loyalists might not be too happy about that. Yeah. Basically, the Fold has taken the spot in Samsung's universe that was for the Note. And a lot of the fans of the Note moved to the Fold because, hey, stylus. And they created a special stylus just for the Fold.

19:19It's weird that it's not mentioned anywhere. Either this is not a final version and it's going to be there. or it will still support the old S Pen Fold Edition. And they just didn't mention it, which would also be weird. But I don't know that it's a huge number of people, but if it doesn't have stylus support, you're going to get a lot of people complain. Although, yeah, we don't know if it's a huge amount of people. Although if Samsung's getting rid of the support, it probably isn't a huge amount of people. They're going to be loud. Yeah, exactly. Very vocal. And I should also mention, And this year we had the S25 Ultra.

19:58It does have an embedded S Pen into it. So there is the possibility that the S26 Ultra has the embedded S Pen. If Samsung moves away from the embedded S Pen or S Pen support in the S26 Ultra, then we're going to hear a lot of… Then there will be squeals for sure. Yeah, maybe Samsung's just trying to nudge the old Note fans back the other way. Right. Yeah, could be. Although it seems like it's perfect for a thing that unfolds into a tablet to have pen support. So, yeah, yeah, you're right. Yeah. Apple's top executive that has been leading the company's foundation models, Ro Ming Pong, is leaving Apple to join Meta's new super intelligent labs.

20:43He actually left Google in 2021 to join Apple. So maybe this is a pattern. I don't know. meta reportedly offered pong a compensation package worth tens of millions of dollars per year to join the new effort pong managed a 100 person team at apple responsible for the large language model that powers apple intelligence features like siri and genmoji and sources say that this might trigger more defections from that group at apple now a couple things first of all he had only been at apple for four years so like i said uh maybe he's always looking for greener pastors. Also, Apple is not being widely praised as having this amazing Apple intelligence effort.

21:24So maybe it was a don't let the door hit you on the way out situation. And definitely, they were talking about this on the intention mechanism with Justin Robert Young and Andrew Main today. Meta is just wanting to steal what's in people's heads, right? That seems to be what they're doing. They're not going for the people at the bottom end. They're going for the people at the top end. So they may have just made him an offer he couldn't refuse in order to be able to get access to the kinds of things that Apple has been doing. I mean, yeah, when you've got the resources that Meta has and say what you will about it, but it's probably pretty likely that every person has a price, right?

22:07There is a number at which almost everyone is like, okay, yeah, that sounds like a great idea. Tens of millions of dollars, if you just full stop right there, it's like, oh, that makes a lot of sense. Tens of millions of dollars per year is a pretty darn difficult deal to pass up if you're someone who maybe also has a history of, like you said, searching for greener pastures. I mean, this is just how the technology industry works. You work there, you make your mark, and then that allows you to find more money over there making more of a mark. And he's in the right position to do that. And granted, it's been a few years since he was at Google, but Meta gets a twofer here, right?

22:50Some insight into how Google does things as well as how Apple does things. Yeah, a lot of value there. An impersonator used generative text and voice models to mimic U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio. They were contacting high-level officials by text, by signal, and by voicemail using the generated kind of models. The fake account was designed to look official. It mimicked Rubio's voice and text style. And the effort, the goal, it seemed, was to access sensitive information, also access itself to certain places. The attempts failed, reportedly, but the State Department has now issued a warning as it investigates the incidents.

23:36This is just an illustration of what people who are concerned about the potential downsides, the large mountain of potential downsides of AI as these models get better, as things become more convincing, as reality, in quotes, becomes more difficult to decipher. And this is just one of those things that they've been warning about for a very long time is what what happens when we get to the point to where these models are so good that just anyone can train a model to sound like someone in a position of major authority or influence throughout the world and do some real damage. I don't know. This is an example of kind of the beginnings of that.

24:17Yeah. Apparently, what happens is it fails. I see so many people touting the like they see. they imitated rubio and i'm like and see they weren't fooled because people know that this can happen now right and so i i don't want to lose sight of the fact that the story here is it did not work now it's yes it it's somebody tried at this high level it's not the first time people have tried this sort of thing no way uh but this is an example of where it didn't actually work uh so that's good that doesn't mean it's guaranteed to not work in the future some you know you try enough times, somebody will fail.

24:59That happens already right now with just plain old links, where you send enough of your spear phishing links and somebody who's just having a bad day clicks on the link without thinking and folks get owned. So that's going to happen with this too. But I take heart that this high level, using the voice specifically, which is something maybe people aren't as used to thinking skeptically about, didn't work. Yeah, totally. That makes a lot of sense. OpenAI, by the way, is reportedly intensifying its security protocols as it is battling corporate espionage and internal leaks. That's the price of being a leader in this space.

25:38This follows DeepSeek's January release that OpenAI continues to allege was built using distillation techniques where you copy technology and then distill it out. The idea of distillation is not actually the illegal part. OpenAI is saying they access some data to do the distillation that they shouldn't have had access to. Information-tenting policies at OpenAI will now limit staff access to sensitive algorithms and projects, while its most sensitive projects will be stored offline on isolated computer systems with mandatory fingerprint scans for access. OpenAI has also reportedly implemented a deny-by-default internet policy that requires explicit approval for external network connections, which at their level, you have to do it like that.

26:24Yeah, yeah. Going full tinfoil hat. Yeah. I mean, the prices, you slow down innovation a little when you do that. But Apple has proved that you can be super secretive and still innovate. So I'm not worried about OpenAI. Neither am I. Okay. Microsoft rolled out a big upgrade to its Edge browser. They say it improves performance, making the browser faster, more responsive. Edge can now show the first visible elements of a website in under 300 milliseconds. That doesn't necessarily mean that the entire site loads faster. Just the first visible elements appear under 300 milliseconds. That gives you the kind of impression that things are moving a lot quicker when you don't have to wait for those first elements to appear.

27:05This is also known as first contentful paint. Microsoft has continued to work to improve the Edge experience with this faster WebUI 2.0 architecture. Ultimately, what it does is it reduces the unnecessary code and JavaScript in the process. Microsoft says that more improvements are also coming soon. That includes print preview and extensions. can we pretend we're doing buzz out loud right now and this is a dominant story browser speed like it's such a throwback i love it it makes me feel comfy and warm yeah uh and now the sony rootkit no uh blue sky has introduced an overhaul of its notification system giving users more control over the alerts that come through activity notifications is the standout that lets users opt into receiving push notifications and in-app alerts tied to specific accounts.

27:59Users can tap the bell icon on any profile to make sure they are continually notified with new updates and a lot of customization. You can now customize things like notifications for likes or just replies or mentions or quotes, new followers, reposts, etc. The update is now available to all Blue Sky users on mobile and desktop. And it's worth throwing in there mastodon 4.4 is out now uh with some some nifty uh new features and laying the ground works for quote posts on mastodon as well oh it's it's growing up blue sky's all growing up everybody's growing up it's so cute those are the essentials for today let's dive a little deeper all right over the weekend you may have heard slash read some old bitcoin got moved caused quite a stir, maybe not surprisingly, out of that came some conspiracy theories.

28:52Tom, you have been diving into this story to see what you could find beyond the usual FUD. What'd you find? Yeah. So there's a whole culture around these old wallets from what are called the Satoshi era, 2009 to 2011, when Satoshi, the creator of Bitcoin, was still active. A lot of these big wallets are also called whales because they have so many bitcoin because bitcoin was really cheap last back then uh so when something happens with those wallets uh it turns a lot of heads and last friday eight bitcoin wallets that had not been active since 2011 moved 10 000 bitcoin each to new wallets. Wow.

29:38That's a lot of Bitcoin. That's massive. There are several old wallets from that time period that have not been active. So it was a huge deal to see these coins move. After several days, there was no other movement because everybody thought, oh, are they preparing them to sell? Nope. They just moved to new wallets. So the consensus seems to be settling around this theory that this was a security move. The CTO of a secure wallet company called Ledger, Charles Guime, noticed that the older wallets had received something called an op return message, multiple of these. Op return lets you send a message to a wallet without transferring coins.

30:22That way, if you're like, I don't know who owns this wallet, but I want to send him a message, you can do that. Those messages said things like, legal notice. We have taken possession of this wallet and its contents and not abandoned? Prove it by an on-chain transaction using private key by September 30th. And notice to owner, see SalomonBrothers.com slash owner dash notice. Now, SalomonBrothers.com slash owner dash notice is a static page that I think Salomon Brothers uses for multiple things. So anybody could point to it. Doesn't mean Salomon Brothers is involved. Uh, there was no evidence that the private key was under control, uh, of, of this person saying they had possession, but a lot of people were suspecting maybe if they moved the coins, they could get the private key somehow.

31:14But again, no evidence that that has happened either. Uh, so even though a lot of folks suspected this was an attempt at a hack or a hack, it It doesn't appear to be. The older wallets, in this case, used something called a legacy one prefix, which is old, so it's less secure, it's less efficient than the BC1Q style addresses that the coins were moved to. This implies that the owner of the wallets saw these notifications and was like, you know what, I've been meaning to move these to a more secure wallet. Maybe I should just do that right now. And this was all for security reasons. Tom's Hardware's Hassam Nasir is among those who believe the owner of the wallets may be Roger Ver, who is currently in Spain fighting extradition to the US on charges of tax fraud.

32:03Ver was an early promoter of Bitcoin, who some referred to as Bitcoin Jesus back in the day. But we don't know. We don't really know whose coins these are. It's just intriguing because there's so many of them. So you're of Bitcoin here, and that they moved to a more secure address with no other activity. And because this wasn't cashing in or cashing out, whatever you want to call it, this was just a move. So does it actually do anything for the dynamics of everyone else holding Bitcoin right now? It doesn't really matter. It's kind of behind the scenes. It's really just the wallet holder or the Bitcoin holder who now hosts their Bitcoin from a different place.

32:49That's really all it is. I mean, that's what it appears to be. Right, appears to be, yes. Certainly the move itself doesn't do anything. The fact that it's an old whale moving things certainly can have an effect on people's perception of value. That doesn't appear to have a consensus around it either, especially as people start to go, oh, I think it was just a security move. So this isn't somebody about to dump$8 billion of Bitcoin onto the market, which would certainly affect things. So yeah, I don't know that it's done much. You know, the value of Bitcoin has been going up recently. If you don't follow that market, a lot of people think it might be, you know, nearing a peak right now for lots of other reasons.

33:31Some people think, no, it's actually on a surge and it's not near its peak. This caused a lot of people on Friday when it first happened to start to feed that into their narrative about where Bitcoin is. But I think by now it's been dispersed and people are like, OK, that was just interesting. But if it doesn't move again, probably didn't mean much of anything. So I had a short stint with Bitcoin where I was like, you know, if I'm going to know about this, I need to understand the process of how it all works and everything. So I invested a very small amount into Bitcoin and kind of played around with it eventually.

34:10Eventually kind of came out totally even. Like I didn't make anything off of it. I didn't lose anything off of it. I don't have it anymore. um but what i noticed in my time doing that is when i wanted to kind of change where the coin was or exchange for a different type i was very nervous because like if i do this wrong like there's there's no protections to they're just gone and i have to imagine that if you're this whale or whatever you're the person in control of multiple billions of dollars worth of bitcoin like god that's just gotta suck you know hitting the button to say go yeah it's probably the hardest button that i would ever have to press because it's like yeah i'm like 99.9 sure but there's that 0.01 uh these coins were worth 78 cents each when they were first transferred into that original wallet and now worth more than a hundred thousand dollars each crazy each each uh well folks uh if you'd like to give jason your bitcoin or you know just have a conversation with us you can do it in our discord which you can join by linking to a patreon account at patreon.com slash dtns this is matt rogers from lost culture east that's with matt rogers and bowen yang this is bowen yang from lost culture east that's matt rogers and bowen yang You know when people try on new food and suddenly it's like, wait.

35:34That's the reaction a lot of people are having when they first try Kewpie mayo. It's the one with the red cap and the little baby on the bottle. You've probably seen it in the grocery store before. And if you've ever just walked past it, some people would say that's a huge mistake. Because this mayo is different. Most mayonnaise uses whole eggs. Kewpie only uses egg yolks, which gives it this rich umami flavor. It's smoother, deeper, and almost buttery. Once people try it, they start putting it on everything. Egg sandwiches, fries, burgers. Some fans even swear by dipping pizza crust in it. And once you notice it, you start seeing it everywhere.

36:09Chefs use it. Restaurants use it. People who really care about flavor use it. Never tried it? Grab the bottle with the red cap next time you're at the store. Put it on just about anything. Then you'll understand. Cupid, the original Japanese mayonnaise. This episode is brought to you by Capital One. Capital One's tech team isn't just talking about multi-agentic AI. They already deployed one. It's called Chat Concierge and it's simplifying car shopping. Using self-reflection and layered reasoning with live API checks, it doesn't just help buyers find a car they love. It helps schedule a test drive, get pre-approved for financing, and estimate trade in value.

36:45Advanced, intuitive, and deployed. That's how they stack. That's technology at Capital One.

36:55We end every episode of DTNS by giving every single listener 10 ,000 Bitcoin. Just kidding. Just kidding. Instead, it's shared wisdom. It's almost the same thing. That Charlie dude is helping us understand. Yeah, this is worth more than Bitcoin. Thank you, that Charlie dude. He writes, I just listened to your excellent story about Microsoft sunsetting Windows 10 on the briefing and how people are making the switch despite all the available options. You both did a fantastic job covering this subject. I wanted to share my own solution to this challenge. I'm moving my older machines over to Ubuntu.

37:28My older hardware will run Ubuntu just fine, and I don't have to worry about support ending anytime soon. Since most of the work I do on those machines is web-based, I don't have to worry about software compatibility issues either. I absolutely love the show and wanted you to know how important this podcast is to me. I get my tech news from you and regularly share insights from your episodes with my students. I'm so glad you're doing what you do. Y 'all rock. Keep up that amazing work. That Charlie dude. Fantastic, man. And yes, Ubuntu, still rocking out there. Good option. And thank you for the kind words.

38:00You know, I hear Ubuntu. Like, I don't have a whole lot of personal interaction with Linux and Ubuntu and all that kind of stuff. But every time I hear Ubuntu, I am reminded of Molly Wood saying, Goo-boon-tu. It's a throwback to Buzz Out Loud. It's like 20 years old at this point, but yet it lives rep-free. inside my brain. Exactly. What are you thinking about? If you have insight into a story that we've covered or haven't, you can share it with us. Feedback at DailyTechNewsShow.com. Big thanks to that, Charlie Dude, for contributing to today's show. And thank you for being along for Daily Tech News Show.

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39:18car shopping. Using self-reflection and layered reasoning with live API checks, it doesn't just help buyers find a car they love. It helps schedule a test drive, get pre-approved for financing, and estimate trade-in value. Advanced, intuitive, and deployed. That's how they stack. That's technology at Capital One. Hey everyone, it's Chris Guillebeau here, host of the Side Hustle School podcast. This episode is powered by AT &T Business. In my early days, I did some of my best work in parked cars or coffee shops. But when I landed my first big contract, I realized I couldn't bet my future on a public connection that cuts out if someone turns on a blender.

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