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1 Apr 2026 · 28m · 12 chapters

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OpenAI Insists It Makes Lots of Money - DTNS 5238

In short

DTNS episode covering OpenAI’s profitability claims ahead of an expected IPO, plus several tech briefs (Google’s screenless Fitbit-band teaser with Steph Curry, Nothing’s rumored smart glasses and LLM earbuds, TikTok emoji DM game, quantum “Q-Day” encryption-breaking white papers, and other headlines like autonomous taxi incidents and a password-loss municipal outage).

Guest backgrounds

No guests are interviewed. Hosts are Tom Merritt and Sarah Lane.

Key claims

OpenAI says it earns $2B/month, $100M/year from ads, has 50M subscribers, 900M weekly ChatGPT users, and 2M weekly Codex users; enterprise is 40% of revenue; it raised $122B in a record funding round valuing it at $852B. Quantum papers claim ECC could be broken in 10 days (neutral atoms) or under 9 minutes (blockchain ECC) with far fewer resources than prior estimates.

Notable examples

Capital One “Chat Concierge” car-shopping AI; Google screenless band preview; TikTok DM emoji game; Tlajomulco de Zuniga municipal systems locked after an IT head died with master passwords.

Written by AI. May contain mistakes.

Chapters

2:24

OpenAI's Financial Growth Insights

Learn about OpenAI's financial growth and user engagement statistics.

“Let's start with what you need to know with that entirely true big story.”
3:56

Market Reactions and Competitor Comparisons

Understand market reactions to OpenAI's funding and its competitors.

“It is the second most valuable private company in the world behind SpaceX, which has an estimated value of$1.45 trillion.”
6:12

The Role of Enterprise Revenue in AI

Explore the significance of enterprise revenue for OpenAI and tech companies.

“But I do think that OpenAI was smart to get this investment now and still, you know, say like, we are the Kleenex of AI.”
8:16

Consumer vs. Enterprise Markets

Discover the balance between consumer and enterprise markets in AI.

“Those companies aren't going to be saying like$100 a month, I don't know if I can afford it.”
12:52

The Future of Fitness Tracking Devices

Explore the implications of fitness trackers without screens.

“Google is developing a screenless Fitbit band to compete with wearables from Aura and Whoop, with plans to release it later this year.”
14:00

Exploring Wearable Fitness Technology

Discuss the various forms and preferences for wearable fitness trackers.

“but then it's like well then you use the app for a lot of folks it's it's the better form factor it makes more sense.”
15:30

The Future of Smart Glasses and Earbuds

Examine upcoming releases in smart glasses and earbuds technology.

“Because every time we talk about stories like this, it's like nothing, the company.”
18:50

Quantum Computing and Its Implications

Understand the potential impacts of quantum computing on encryption.

“And, you know, just kind of looking at tech news in general.”
25:22

Tech Headlines: Recent Developments

Cover recent tech news including Google errors and product launches.

“Capital One's tech team isn't just talking about multi-agentic AI.”
28:00

Tech News Updates: Price Increases and AI Developments

Learn about recent tech news including chip exports and AI-related controversies.

“Well, nobody likes a price increase, but considering what the Raspberry Pis are capable of, still very affordable stuff.”
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30:24

Password Security: The Case of Locked Systems

Discover the implications of password security following a municipal system being locked out.

“And now Dan Campos has a story of why sometimes it is good to share your passwords.”
31:52

Community Perspectives on Software Security

Explore insights from listeners about the Axios NPM compromise and its impact.

“First of all, that's a very secure system.”
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2:05This is the Daily Tech News for Wednesday, April 1st, 2026. We are still going to tell you what you need to know, give you important context and help you understand. All true stories today. Today, OpenAI sets a record for fundraising and tries to convince the market it's only getting more profitable. I'm Tom Merritt. And I'm Sarah Lane. Let's start with what you need to know with that entirely true big story. I'm only saying that because it's April Fool's Day. If anybody's confused, like, why would he have to say it's true? Now I don't believe him. Let's start with OpenAI saying, I mean, this may or may not be true, but OpenAI says that it makes$2 billion a month.

2:45I have no reason not to believe them. $100 million a year coming from ads, but enterprise making up 40 % of the revenue. The rest would be consumer subscriptions. And the important part is OpenAI says this is growing. It says it has 50 million subscribers, 900 million weekly ChatGPT users, and 2 million weekly Codex users. And that is its area for growth, right? It wants to make the super app with Codex and ChatGPT and everything all together. Open AI claims six times the monthly web visits and mobile sessions of its nearest competitor, four times the time spent of the nearest competitor on its services, and four times spent on its services of all the other competitors combined.

3:28Ahead of an expected IPO later this year, Open AI closed the largest round of funding in Silicon Valley history. So investors voting some confidence,$122 billion worth of confidence. That includes a bunch of banks, of course, but also Amazon, NVIDIA, SoftBank, and Microsoft. Interestingly, if you're in the financial sector,$3 billion of that came from personal investors, not from institutional investors. Company is valued at$852 billion. That would make it, if it were public right now, the 11th largest company on the S &P 500. It is the second most valuable private company in the world behind SpaceX, which has an estimated value of$1.45 trillion.

4:09And today, Bloomberg reported that SpaceX has filed its draft IPO registration paperwork with the USSEC, and that in that paperwork, it hopes to raise$75 billion from its stock sale, which would far outpace the current largest IPO ever, which happened back in 2019. That was Saudi Aramco. They raised$24 billion. Which was a lot at the time. Yeah, it's a lot for you and I now. It's probably still a big number now. But yeah,$75 billion would dwarf that. However, participants in the secondary market are a little less enthusiastic about OpenAI. Secondary markets are for people who own shares in private companies, but they would like to sell them.

4:54Bloomberg reports that some investors find they couldn't find a buyer. while there are buyers for secondary shares in Anthropic, which is, by the way, valued at$380 billion. The secondary market thing gets a little bit into the financial sector, which is not our bailiwick here. And there's some limitations on how you can trade. So it's not one for one to what it would be in a public market. But interesting to see that dichotomy of institutional investors pouring money in to get those original shares and even some retail investors doing it. But on the secondary market, finding that people are a little more cautious.

5:27You know, a couple of things stood out to me about this story for OpenAI specifically. Making$2 billion a month, that's impressive. $100 million a year also sounds like a lot of money, and that's from ads alone, which, you know, is relatively new for the company. But also, I think that OpenAI is still riding on that high of kind of being first. Yeah. Being that first household AI name. You know, we have lots of other options. And of course, OpenAI is saying we're better than the competitors. You know, we're doing better than the competitors. I don't know if that is going to be the case in six months to a year because this is all, you know, Wild West stuff and things change quickly.

6:12But I do think that OpenAI was smart to get this investment now and still, you know, say like, we are the Kleenex of AI. Yeah. We own this space. That's what people who don't really know much about this still call it. Yeah, exactly. And I think they really, it shows that they are feeling a little of that pressure of everybody saying, well, I don't know. I think Gemini might be better. Or wow, Anthropic is really becoming popular. Everybody's using Claude now that they have to say, hey, everybody, it's not like we collapsed. We have a lot of users. We got a lot of revenue coming in. And that's the sign of a competitive marketplace when you have a lot of those wins shifting around like that and you have to constantly restate like, hey, we're doing all right.

7:01We're doing well. And OpenAI's promise has always been if we add more data centers and more compute, as they say, we will make more money. So far, that is shown in these numbers. Yeah, yeah. I think enterprise making up of 40 % of its current revenue is interesting. That feels like the market that will saturate faster than just the consumer market because there's so many people who just don't even play around with this stuff at all and might want to in the future. But they're not necessarily going to be paying the big bucks to do so. So that's, it's, you know, Sora going away. Great example of the company saying, you know what?

7:42That enterprise part of our business seems to be the way to go. Yeah. And the enterprise dollars for video aren't there yet. We can always go back to that. It's interesting. You often see this with companies where the consumer end is what gets them attention. Then the enterprise end is where they go to because they want growth. And man, you can get a lot of money easily if you get enterprise on board. It's not easy to always get enterprises on board. But if you're selling contracts to large companies for millions to billions of dollars at a time. Those companies aren't going to be saying like$100 a month, I don't know if I can afford it.

8:20That's a lot better for your bottom line than going after individuals who are giving you$20 or even$200 a month at a time. That's small change. I don't know if you see them go back to that. Sometimes you see companies, they go enterprise, then they realize, well, okay, now we've reached the limits of that, but we need the awareness of the consumer market to help open up new markets and also help drive enterprise to keep us and people to like using us. So you go back to the consumer market. But right now it does look like OpenAI. OpenAI says it's not going enterprise, right? Because they don't want people to think like, oh, I should cancel my chat GPT subscription because they're not going to care about me anymore.

9:02But they are going focused productivity and business. Yeah. I mean, they are going enterprise and have been. But I know what you mean. I think they don't want to leave the small businesses behind is what they're making sure to say. Yeah. Well, all of you listening right now always have thoughts on our shows, and we appreciate that. Thanks to Chris Beneteau, Jeffrey Zilks, and A-Lo, a.k.a. Adam L., for supporting us.

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12:48There's more we need to know today. Let's get to the briefs. Let's do it. Google is developing a screenless Fitbit band to compete with wearables from Aura and Whoop, with plans to release it later this year. Fitbit's personal health coach, previewed in October, would be central to the device. New features came to the personal health coach on Tuesday. Basketball player, yay, go Warriors, and Google performance advisor Steph Curry posted a 15-second video of himself practicing basketball while wearing a gray cloth band with orange lining, which looks similar to a whoop band. The video ended with the Google logo.

13:24So I think we know where this is going. Yeah, we got a look at the band. And Steph said, like, boy, this is really going to you're going to have to see this yourself. We did get an announcement date, though. This is very much just a teaser. But clearly Google would like to whoop whoop at what the at the band stuff. this is less about competing with aura because it's not a ring but it is about competing with aura because it's about that fitness tracking without a screen this yeah and you know the screenless stuff and and granted uh we all don't understand the things that we don't have yet but you know having an apple watch that i wear all the time 24 7 almost uh i'm like no screen but then it's like well then you use the app for a lot of folks it's it's the better form factor it makes more sense.

14:12You still have to wear something on. I actually have a friend who wears his whoop on his ankle. He just likes it better that way. Um, you know, and some people do it, you know, like bicep type thing you have, you have more options. And if you don't care about looking at your screen to look at the weather, um, or see how many steps you've taken, oh my gosh, my steps are low for this for today right now. Then you don't really care. You don't really care. You either, you either say this is something I had and I decided I didn't need or I never had and I don't want. So more form factors, the better.

14:45And I've always been a big fan of Fitbit. Before I ever got the Apple Watch, I was in the Fitbit faithful category and I've always thought they've done well, even after the Google purchase. Yeah, yeah. I would say, you know, not everybody wants to wear a watch. And if they don't, they might still want to track fitness. So that's another reason why you might want this. I imagine if you're Steph Curry, which I imagine most of you are not, but if you are or are like him, maybe you have like a really fancy, expensive watch that you want to wear for your watch, but that doesn't track fitness. And so you have this band.

15:22And I think that's a great point where you were saying, Sarah, I hadn't thought about that of like, you can put it on your ankle. You can put it on your bicep. You can put it somewhere else and it's still going to track. Yep. bloomberg sources say the nothing company plans to release its own bit of wearables not a fitness band but smart glasses next year these would supposedly have cameras and microphones and speakers in them pretty pretty typical what we're seeing i kept saying this was going to be the year of the smart glasses looks like apple isn't coming out with theirs till next year i wouldn't be shocked if google and samsung delay theirs till next year and it sounds like nothing will be coming next year with this but nothing is also reportedly planning to release new earbuds with large language model features in them later this year.

16:03Can I just say nothing? Why? Why do you call yourselves that? Because every time we talk about stories like this, it's like nothing, the company. The company. Yeah. Nothing is also reportedly planning, meaning the company, not nothing. But okay, so I've gotten that out of the way. Otherwise, yeah, I mean, let's have at it. Earbuds with LLM features, um very hitchhiker hitchhiker's guide uh and i'm yeah the more we have that stuff the better yeah table stakes these days right airpods have them google buds have them samsung buds have them like that's it's just the way of the world i'm curious which llm they didn't give an indication which which one you'd get or whether you get choice yeah that's a good point most most seem to have choices now.

16:52I mean, even, you know, the air, uh, the air, uh, earbuds, air pods, right. Yeah. I mean, you've, you've got choices now, uh, used to be open AI exclusive for stuff like that. Um, and now you have choices. Well, I look forward to seeing nothing. Why? Why curl pay? TikTok added a game to direct messages that you can start by sending an emoji. If you're saying, what the heck are you talking about? You can then tap on the emoji that you sent to enter the game. Then you use your finger to bounce as high as you can across alligator heads. You're avoiding skeletons. The emoji that you use to enter the game appears as a boost to your speed and your height.

17:36This is similar to other emoji games in DMs. Instagram added two years ago. There are others. It's sort of the closest to an April Fool story that we have. even though this is not a joke. This is a real game. Yeah. I remember even five years ago, I was still complaining about how hard it was to report actual tech news on April 1st. I'm not to the point where I miss those days at all. But it is nice to see like a lighthearted story. I kind of prefer this. Give me something fun. It's not trying to fool me. It's not something I have to go. This isn't true. It's just just kind of a cute, cute little thing that TikTok added today and let you have fun with somebody you DM with.

18:17Yeah. I, I actually went to my TikTok DMs like, do I DM with anybody on TikTok? I don't use TikTok very often. So the answer is no, but you know, there were a few, you know, friends of mine, um, you know, going back and forth, usually like, it was like, Oh, you're on TikTok now. Cool. Good to see you just followed. Uh, so not very exciting stuff, but, uh, but yeah, if you hang out in there a lot and you want to play a fun little game. All good. But going back to the April Fool's thing, Tom, you know, this morning I was prepping for our show and cybersecurity headlines that I'll be doing later, later in the day afterwards.

18:55And, you know, just kind of looking at tech news in general. And maybe I saw an April Fool's news headline that I just didn't notice, but I didn't see anything. Yeah. It's, it's, I think finally people were like, this isn't funny anymore. No, it got a little, I was a big fan. I've always been a fan of April Fool's Day. And I was a big fan of the fake stories when they first started showing up because they were rare, right? It was like, ooh, that's really interesting what ThinkGeek is doing with a fake product or whatever. Then it became mandatory, right? Where every single outlet was doing something and everybody had their fake April Fool's story.

19:32It became overwhelming. You know, that's the internet, right? It always overdoes something and has to play. Yeah. It's like funny becomes tedious. Yeah. Yeah. And maybe there's a hope for the internet in the fact that we have come back from that abyss. So good. I can like April Fool's Day again. This is fun. No problems on the internet now, Tom. We're good. Not at all. We've fixed it. We've solved April Fool's Day. Or at least I'm just saying maybe there's hope we could if we could solve that. That's true. You never know. Big thanks to RW Nash for pointing out this next one on our subreddit. this story probably explains why Google recently moved up its expectation and therefore its plans to be ready for Q day.

20:12You may remember us talking about that previously on the show. Q day is the day when quantum computers will be good enough to break existing public key encryption. We don't know exactly when Q day will happen, but kind of roughly knowing when it might come means you have a target to make sure that you're prepared. Organizations want to have quantum proof encryption in place well ahead of Q-Day, because when you get the capability to do it, you can then go break all the encryption that's in place. So you want to have it in place years ahead. So if you are breaking encryption, it's for old data.

20:44And that brings us to two white papers that independently described less expensive ways that quantum computers can break encryption. And that means you could probably do them faster. In one of these papers, the use of neutral atoms as reconfigurable qubits. Qubits are part of the quantum computer universe that can be a zero or a one or both. It would be able to break 256-bit elliptic curve cryptography, ECC, in 10 days while using 100 times less overhead than previously estimated to be needed to break ECC. The way this one works is well described in the paper. It uses lasers to make optical tweezers that can be used to build an array of trapped neutral atoms that all can interact with each other at once rather than having to be laid out in a 2D grid, as happens with the superconducting approaches.

21:38That makes error correction much more efficient and speeds things along. In the other white paper, Google researchers demonstrated how to break ECC securing blockchains for Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies in less than nine minutes, and they needed 20 times less resources needed than have previously been estimated. Now, Google is not releasing the algorithmic improvements they made. And some people are a little bent out of shape about this, saying the fact that you're using this to break a blockchain is a little bit headline chasing. You could have break some other ECC thing. It didn't have to be Bitcoin.

22:14And the fact that you don't want to release an algorithm because of safety reasons when it's for a computer that's not been built yet, it seems a little bit like it might be PR, but they did research, they did release a zero knowledge proof. So there is a way to validate their results. Quantum computing is developing better error tolerance, more efficient algorithms, all of that bringing us closer to cryptographically relevant quantum computing or CRQC. However, I think it's worth repeating, closer does not mean soon. None of these machines required to implement either of these approaches exist yet.

22:50Nobody's built the machine that can do this. This is just the theory, but it's good to know the theory so we can get prepared to defend against it now instead of later. Do our biggest security experts have an idea of when soon is? We're talking, I think, what did Google put it at? I think they upped it to five years from now. So not that long. Not horribly long. No. I mean, if it was like, oh, 50 to 100, You know, half the people would be like, we won't even be here anyway. 2030 to 2035. Yeah. Okay. All right. So I also, I feel like demonstrating how to break ECC for Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies.

23:32Sure. That's going to get some headlines. People go, Oh no, we're done for. Um, and maybe that is a little sensational, but it also is a good reminder of the, these These are things that a lot of people, these are things, these are platforms and solutions that a lot of people trust and they need to be upgraded or it's not going to work anymore. Yeah, that is a huge part of this. And that's what the whole exercise is about is here's how you can break it. Now you need to make sure you've implemented a security system that won't be vulnerable to this way of breaking it. And there's, there's versions of that.

24:10In fact, the National Institute of Standards has blessed a couple of approaches to that. So it's just a matter of making sure that people take it seriously and implement it. Well, take it seriously, everyone out there. And if you have thoughts, let us know how you are implementing it or thinking about doing that in the future. Before 2030, let's get cracking, everybody. This week on Live With It, Hammond Chamberlain talks about his experience using DaVinci Resolve as a video editor. He's used others, but this is the one that's working for him now as he's leveling up his video editing skills. If you haven't been watching Live With It, we want you to get to know it.

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26:23Now let's get to the quick headlines that make you look smart. anthropic confirmed on tuesday that indeed the source code found in an npm was from claude coat and was caused by human error not a security breach still could have been vibe coded if it's human error i'm just saying uh multiple baidu apollo go autonomous taxis froze in the city of wuhan on tuesday in china because of a system failure uh so hey look it doesn't just happen in san francisco and thankfully no one was injured this is something that uh you know it's way more for me in my parts of the world but uh something i've thought about like what if they all were just to go down and i was on the freeway i don't know they just stopped their safety mechanism i mean sure i could run out of gas on the freeway in my own car too uh and that that would happen but that would at least be a little bit more under my control um yeah glad no one was injured Singapore's Grab is partnering with WeRide to begin an autonomous taxi service in the Ponggoy neighborhood of Singapore.

27:33Aha, Grab getting into the game. And Singapore starting to add more autonomous features to their city-state. Raspberry Pi introduced a 3-gigabyte variant of the Pi 4 for$83.75, while increasing the price of the 16-gigabyte Raspberry Pi 5 by$100. The flagship Pi 500 Plus is up$150. The Gigabyte Compute Module 4 and 4S are up by$11.25. And the recently released Pi AI Hat Plus 2 is up$50. Well, nobody likes a price increase, but considering what the Raspberry Pis are capable of, still very affordable stuff. South Korea chip exports rose 151.4 % on the year last month, bringing in a record$32.83 billion and helping raise overall exports for the country to a record$80 billion.

28:28Oh, that's where the price increases are going. I see. A government filing in Taiwan shows that TSMC plans to launch a three nanometer factory in Japan in 2028. Microsoft released an out of band fix for the problem with the most recent Windows 11 preview update, causing some users to get an error saying that their files were missing. Oh, yeah, that's the one Rob and I were talking about on Monday. Google has removed some shortcuts in Google Photos to reduce the number of times you accidentally trigger them. So if you were somebody who liked circling, tapping or scribbling to do move, erase and reimagine, well, you won't be able to do it anymore.

29:05Sorry. Sorry. After the announcement that OpenAI will end Sora video generation, Kling AI saw users rise 4 % and RunwayML and VidU each rose 1%. So there is demand. Yeah, there's some. Maybe not as much as I would have guessed, though. Yeah. And, oh, So the mayor of New York City has reversed a ban on TikTok in that city so that you can now use TikTok with security guardrails if you are an employee of the New York City government. Thank you to KV87 for pointing this one out on our subreddit as well. Well, police arrested a grandmother from Tennessee and held her in jail for more than five months based on facial recognition evidence used by police in North Dakota, a state she says she's never been to.

29:59West Fargo police were using Clearview AI. Yeah, this is another one of those stories that shouldn't happen because you should use other evidence. And there's a lot of finger pointing, a lot of like they shouldn't have been using that. They were using a system they shouldn't have been used. Not enough apologizing, if you ask me. Five months in jail? No. Not enough apologizing? Yeah. Oh, my goodness. All right. Those are the essentials for today. And now Dan Campos has a story of why sometimes it is good to share your passwords. Hello there, friends of DTNS. Ever heard of a system so secure that no one can get in?

30:36In Jalisco, the municipal government of Tlajomulco de Zuniga has several of the city's administrative systems locked down following the death of an official who took the passwords with him to the grave. The system has been down for over a week, preventing residents from making payments from services such as property tax or water. Official vehicles like garbage collection trucks cannot refuel and municipal workers might be unable to receive their salaries if the situation continues. The deceased was Cristian Emanuel Venegas Paredes, head of the information technology department and the only person who had access to the master passwords for the municipal system.

31:14He left his position during the government transition and later passed away from cancer without formally handing over those credentials. The current administration attempt to regain access with the help of a hacker, but the attempt failed and triggered a security mechanism that completely locked the system. The staffing provider and Microsoft were consulted, but they have not been able to restore access as they only provide licenses and not administrative control over the systems. For this and more news, check this week's Noticias de Tecnología Express. No passwords needed. Back to you, amigos.

31:51Gracias, Dan. That is wild. First of all, that's a very secure system. And second of all, I don't think the person they hired to try to break into the system was maybe the best choice if they triggered the lockdown. Hindsight's always 20-20. And there obviously should have been more administrative handover before he left his position. So many questions on that. It's like an episode of Paradise. It really is. No spoilers. We like to end every episode of DTNS with shared perspectives from all of you because you guys are smart and you give us good perspectives all the time. Today, Andrew and Phil have good ones on the Axios NPM compromise.

32:36Yeah, Andrew wrote, I think the impact of the Axios compromise is overstated. In reality, devs use a package lock file, which pins the version of the packages in use. To be compromised, you would have to have updated just at the time the vulnerable package came out or created a new app with the latest version in that window. In short, the attack window was tiny and the shopping list protection that most serious developers already use blocked it for the majority of cases. That's why many experienced people say the real world damage is likely much smaller than the dramatic headlines suggest. Though anyone who might have installed during that exact window, a couple hours, should still double check and be careful.

33:13It's a good reminder that these lock files are smart safety habits, not just extra paperwork. And then Phil wrote,

33:48Uh, so yeah, probably doesn't in any way contradict what Andrew is saying, because I'm sure it's a smaller number of people, but that's an interesting point from Phil as well. Yeah. Well, thank you from Phil and Andrew. Uh, and if you're thinking about something, anything we touched on today, something that you think we should look more into on a future show, share it with us at feedback at daily tech news show.com. Yeah. Big thanks to Andrew for that. That was really good insight on there and Phil too, uh, for contributing to today's show. Thank you for being along for daily tech news show. You are the folks who keep us in business.

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