Sonos's New Soundbar and Headphones Right Some of Its Wrongs - DTNS 5344

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3:02This is the Daily Tech News for Tuesday, September 1st, 2026. We tell you what you need to know, give you the important context, and help each other understand. Yes. Well, at least we tried. Today, Sonos is back, baby. Back, baby. They got speakers. They got headphones. They got operating systems. It's all for you. Hmm. Maybe the operating system is the most important part of that. We'll talk about it. I'm Jason Howell. I'm Tom Merritt. Let's start with what you need to know with a big story. Yes, as Tom said right there at the top, Sonos has announced a couple of new premium products, including a big push into artificial intelligence on its devices, which we'll talk about more from an open platform perspective.

3:45Very interesting. But first, the$450 Ace Ultra headphones. That's one of the products they announced. And they now integrate more directly with Sonos speakers than the previous Ace headphone model. They include Wi-Fi built in, which I found a lot of people were kind of hoping for saying, I'm not going to buy these unless they have Wi-Fi. Well, there you go. So that basically means that users can move audio from a Sonos speaker system or turntable to the headphones directly and then back. And you can do that kind of with the push of a button. So it's very well integrated, apparently. Sonos also claims improved ANC, this noise cancellation, a 35-hour battery, and replaceable magnetic ear pads.

4:31So if they wear out, I suppose you can just pop some new ones in there. There's the$700 Beam Ultra sound bar, which features upward-facing speakers or upward-firing speakers. Nine drivers, support for true 7.1.2 Dolby Atmos, which is nice. There's also a new AI speech enhancement feature with four degrees of dialogue clarity if you want to clean up the dialogue of the movie you're watching or something like that. Sonos Fabric is a system that allows you to use a pair of Move 2 and play wireless speakers as rear surrounds with the system when they're installed in the same room as the sound bar.

5:13They actually use high-frequency sound to help when you place the speaker somewhere in the room that will adjust the sound clarity and kind of the dynamics of the sound system to the room automatically, and it uses that high-frequency sound to do location for that system. And then finally, powering the soundbar is the newly renamed Sonos 27OS, formerly named Platform, which introduces its own native voice assistant for audio playback, plus the option to connect to third-party models. So you can connect to ChatGPT, Gemini, ALEXA, Amazon's assistant, plus for other tasks. Sonos says it isn't giving any model preferential treatment on its platform.

6:01And in the future, users can expect to create AI agents with custom models and voices as well. Agents on your soundbar. I guess we should get used to things like that. I can see that being incredibly useful if you're like, I want to pull in new releases, when they happen, put them in this playlist. There's all kinds of things I could see you using agents for. Obviously, it's not coding. It's not a coding thing you can do here. Why can't you code with your soundbar, Tom? Are you saying that's ridiculous? Are we even in the 21st century? Exactly. But no, yeah, I think a lot of people will poo-poo the agents part of this because buzzword.

6:37I'm curious. But I think I can imagine some things where it's like, settle down from the hype around agents and just think like, oh, I would like to be able to describe something I want my Sonos to do. And you'd be able to do that. And multimodal will make it happen, right? That's an interesting point. And it's true. And I probably fall victim to this sometimes, too. When we think of AI agents, we think of all of these complex systems and everything. But really, at the end of the day, what is it in a system like this? It's, oh, this feature or this setting or this shortcut doesn't exist. Maybe I can just use my voice to say, I want it to do this thing.

7:15How can it? And it does it. And that's actually a pretty cool option. Yeah, kind of like routines on the Amazon Echo. but more capable, right? Like, yeah, of course, you don't want, you're probably not going to use your Sonos to go do your grocery shopping or something like that, right? It's not that kind of agentic stuff. I think this is a big play for Sonos to get back into the mindshare of being good at this. And the headphone integration is probably the most important part of that, where I think a lot of people looked at the previous Ace headphones as like, Sonos, they're kind of backsliding.

7:53You used to be able to use all their stuff. That was the dream of Sonos. We have some really old Sonos speakers. And the fun part about them was it was just dead easy to be like, play this on the Sonos. And it played it on the Sonos. So being able to tap the headphones and say, oh, yeah, bring it to the headphones, that is the kinds of things Sonos used to be known for. The bringing in of the LLMs, I think that's something where probably Sonos just wants to give you the option to do it. they they used they they have brought in amazon's assistant for a long time alongside their own uh so i think they're saying well if we've always done that let's keep doing that uh but i i think that's more of like we know there's some of you who want it so we're not going to shut it down we're going to make it possible but they did say that most of the time people will probably just use the onboard sonos llm to do settings and volumes and and stuff like that yeah well and And when I think about this through the kind of lens of like a Google Home device or, you know, or Apple's, you know, home devices and everything, like we use those for various, you know, for various reasons, but they are always tied to the maker's AI, right?

9:07And in this case, Sonos, I think it's a smart move. It's saying, okay, it's that, but it can really be any provider you want. and these models are very voice capable at this point and these being audio products, I think that makes a ton of sense. It's like, use the one that you like. Everybody's got preferences. Well, I can imagine a scenario which I thought Sonos would already be on. They got kind of distracted by their horrible app a few years ago. But the way this is shaping up is, yes, you can now take your Move 2 and your Play speakers, not your original Move speakers because they just don't have the capability, but you can take your move to and play speakers and just put them in the room.

9:46If they're in a room with a soundbar, then they'll configure to be used as part of this round sound system. If they're in a room alone, they'll know that and then they'll configure themselves to be used as a single speaker. That's what I want from Sonos. I don't have to think about it. I put it in the room. It does the thing I put on the headphones. I tap the button. It brings me my music. When I'm done, I tap the button. It goes back to the speaker. That's the kind of stuff that I want from Sonos. and in the past, it was nice that you could use it as an Echo. Like, well, I've got Sonos and it carries, you know, the Amazon voice assistant.

10:19So I don't need to buy an Echo. I can just use that. Sarah Lane famously was using her Sonos as her voice assistant for the longest time. And I think being able to say like, yeah, you can do that. And it could be ChatGPT voice or it could be Gemini, whatever you want. Like you can use it for that too. That's just an added feature that we're making possible for. Now, when it comes to, you know, you alluded to kind of the reputation around the app and the kind of not as easy as it should be user experience. Let's say my wife has a Sonos system at her gym and I hear about that sometimes. Do you think the renaming of the OS is kind of like a way of them putting a stamp on it and saying, hey, we're doing things a little different now as a result?

11:02You know, we're kind of naming this different. We've got a different approach. This is like a visible symbol of, no, we've made changes. We're better now. Yeah, I think they have to also make the changes, which they say they've done. So we'll see how that works out. But yes, absolutely. Changing the name kind of underlines that. And switching to that Apple, like it's Sonos 27 because it's 2026 and this is the operating system that you'll use for most of 2027. Next year, it'll be 28, et cetera. that's also just a dead simple way to let you know like oh okay i'm i'm on a new operating system yeah agreed cool well i love the the dynamically kind of like configuring speaker approach i think that's awesome not many people are going to take those speakers and just always bring them from room to room but sometimes they will and if that works as seamlessly as it sounds like it will that's kind of a magical thing to just drop it in the right room and have it configure and boop it's part of your, you know, suddenly you have 5.1 or whatever.

12:00I think, I think a lot of where I imagine that becoming really helpful is you buy a new speaker and you take the old one and put it in a new room. And now I have to configure it for the new room. Well, no, you don't. It just knows. It just works. It's the, it's the fun pre-holiday product announcement season, folks. There's going to be more where this came from. Sonos won't be the last one. Obviously Apple next week will be one and we're going to get lots more of that. uh and if you want to know about them of course come right here dtns it's made possible by you the listener thanks to dale mulcahy matt zaglin jeff wilks james erhart and we got a lot of new patrons these days uh even folks just on the free tier so we want to welcome everybody uh too many to welcome all at once but but first batch dodge joe david katie andre macher vaughn carol tanner Clifford, Jacob, Ching Yuan Zhang.

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16:23Explore further at RangeRover.com. All right, there's plenty more to know today, so let's get to the briefs. Roku launching its first Roku-branded OLED TV. The Roku Pro Series OLED TV and the Roku Pro Series LX OLED TV. Of course, LX stands for latex. No, I don't know what LX stands for. I guess it's luxury. It's a weird TV. Yeah, probably luxury. Anyway, these new OLED TVs from Roku include a stand that can accommodate a soundbar, straps for cable management. That's a nice touch. Both support Dolby Vision. Also uses Smart Picture Max. That's a feature to automatically adjust your settings for you.

17:03And automatic game mode. It'll tell when you turn on a video game and then turn on variable refresh rate and AMD FreeSync Premium if you need it. the LX is a little lighter on details that's one of the reasons we don't know what the LX stands for we know it'll have 144 hertz refresh rate versus the 120 hertz for the standard model and it'll come with a rechargeable remote but they didn't give us as many details on that one these were will be for sale exclusively on Amazon both models will have 55 and 65 inch versions The not LX model starts at$999 and$1 ,299 for the LX, but the LX won't ship until October.

17:44So the not LX model will be the first one you get. Yeah. OLED TVs can be pretty pricey,$1 ,000 for 55-inch. Definitely a more accessible entry point for budget-minded buyers. Makes sense coming from a company like Roku that has some pretty accessible prices on streaming boxes and everything. I have a projector with a Google TV OS built into the projector, and that OS from day one has been a slog. I wonder how Roku OS will perform on a TV like this kind of baked in. You know what I mean? That's always a concern for me. This will perform pretty much the same as any modern Roku-based TV, which you can get from TCL or something else.

18:25Roku being in a TV isn't new. The new thing here is you've got an OLED screen. And it's not even new that Roku's on an OLED screen because you could get those from other makers that use the Roku OS. The big one here is like, hey, it's from Roku itself. So if you want an affordably priced, good enough OLED screen, this is not going to be the best possible screen you can buy. You're getting a little bit of a discount because you're getting it direct from, well, I mean, Roku's not making it. They're having someone make it for them and then they're slapping the name on it. But that helps reduce the price a little bit.

18:56Yeah, I mean, I guess where I'm coming from is if it is a Roku branded set, hopefully the longevity of that OS, you know, because when it's the built-in OS into the TV, somewhere along the line, things start to slow down. And I hope that's not the case. You know, I hope you get some decent extension. It will be the case, is what I'm trying to tell you, Jason. There's nothing in this setup that is going to change that for Roku or anybody else, sadly. Except it's from Roku. So maybe they're more inclined to keep it better updated. Like a suddenly faster processor in there, though. Yeah, that's true.

19:30Yeah. That's true. Probably means you might see some ads in there as well. I know where you're going. You're hoping that Roku made some optimizations because they know the hardware. Or they're just more committed to it because it's theirs versus somebody else's. That's, you know, it's our TV with our OS. I'll tell you what Roku's committed to, Jason. Roku is committed to selling you advertisements. Yes. Indeed. So honestly, that's where most of their efforts are going. And that's another side of it to consider. Anthropic shared in a blog post that it paused parts of Claude's cyber testing and high-risk reinforcement learning work temporarily after its pre-release models had carried out unauthorized actions during tests where cyber safeguards were purposefully removed.

20:12Now, Anthropic first announced these incidents in July, but they didn't really share a whole lot of insight into exactly what happened back then. Now they're sharing some further information here on three incidents, specifically one where Opus 4.7 targeted a company sharing the same name as its fictional target across four test runs. Another involving malicious Python code, which was believed to be safely sandboxed, but it wasn't. And another where the model searched for a separate breach when the one it was working on didn't pan out. Now, Anthropic has shared that at the time there was no need to pause the development for safety reasons.

20:49But this blog post that they just released basically reveals that the company ultimately decided to pause training. So they changed their mind on that, at least temporarily. Most training has restarted. Anthropic says some high-risk environments remain on hold and waiting for more monitoring tools to come into play, manual review to take a look at those. Anthropic also shared that it believes, quote, the world would benefit if the industry adopted a lawful, verifiable, effective mechanism for coordinated pacing as soon as possible. So Anthropic, you know, the safety AI company saying, hey, maybe we should slow down on all this stuff.

21:29That's interesting that that's how you read what they wrote, because those are the exact words they used. Whereas I read it as the world would benefit from regulatory capture that ensures a more valuable IPO. I don't know why that is coming to me differently. Yeah, it's interesting. Interesting. Your eyes see things differently. Yeah. But I think you're probably on the right track. I also think Anthropic actually has some very committed people who believe in safety. They've made that very clear over the years. I find it disappointing. I've heard a lot of rhetoric that OpenAI was irresponsible on this case and Anthropic was more responsible.

22:11and I have not seen evidence of that. Yeah, that's a good point. Anthropic said there was no reason. I mean, I guess they were like, we still didn't think there was a reason to pause, but we did it anyway. But we did it anyways. Whereas OpenAI has been very transparent, has gotten Meter, which is a nonprofit agency and independent of OpenAI, along with another agency to come in and do an audit and publish it. We talked about that on the August 27th episode of DTNS. And it was very reassuring for me to see all of the details of how OpenAI's rogue agent happened, why the safety guardrails weren't put in place.

22:47Meter thinks like this is understandable. We learned from this. Meter does not imply that this was irresponsible, but that we've learned from it and we can now understand that the capabilities of these models is more than we expected. Meter is going to do that for Anthropic and I'm very much looking forward to reading that report when they do. I don't know why Anthropic's report from Meter is coming out later. I'm not trying to imply anything about that. But until I read that report, and it probably will say the same thing, I feel like Anthropic is not handling the messaging around this as well.

23:26Yeah, no, it's true. I mean, to say that there was no reason to put a pause or slow down and then find out that they were doing that. But it is weird and it does, you know, it is strange for this sort of kind of confused messaging to come from a company that really wants you to believe that it is the safety AI company. And yet, you know, this is this this just kind of plants a bit of distrust in the process. Yeah. And unfortunately, well, I don't know if it's unfortunately. I don't I hear people have they basically people have just kind of picked sides. and so even though i'm like i don't think anthropic's handling this as well i still hear people like anthropic handled this so much better i'm like i don't i don't see it myself but yeah you know it's probably the one that they use and they don't want to yeah and i'm not trying to condemn them and say they've been horribly irresponsible or anything but it's like they told me they didn't need to pause then they paused and then they told me they paused a few weeks later and we're still not getting the third-party audit report from them when we We already have the very comprehensive one from OpenAI.

24:32So, you know, I'm not trying to say, woo, OpenAI, they're the best, but I at least know what happened with that one. Yeah, I know. There's been a lot more, a lot of clarity, and especially by comparison, a lot of clarity and a lot of different, you know, different aspects. So, yeah, I agree. Well, let's talk about raindrops that are lightning. Yes. I love this story. I know. This one's very cool. And thank you to WildTech in our subreddit for putting this on our radar. A scientist at the Max Planck Institute for Polymer Research in Germany found that raindrops sliding across surfaces that are coated to prevent corrosion.

25:09So that could be your clear coat. It could be paint. Or it even could be surfaces like leaves or glass that really, you know, leaves aren't meant to prevent corrosion. But these kinds of surfaces can build up electric charge in a raindrop. When those charged drops then slide off onto another surface. So in their test, they used coated metal like Teflon. But this could be simulating the body of a vehicle, for example. That electrical field that has been built up in the raindrop is strong enough to blow a hole in the coating. You're not going to see like a big hole when you look at it, but it's going to create a hole in the coating, which then exposes the metal to corrosion, that underlying surface to corrosion.

25:59The study was done using high-speed cameras to capture the process. It found that only 3 ,000 sliding drops, so this isn't drops that hit straight from the air, it's slid off another surface, so it built up that electrical charge. 3 ,000 sliding drops of rain were enough to penetrate a Teflon coating leading to corrosion. Drops of rain that didn't slide and fell directly onto the target left behind an unaffected surface. They did not have the electrical charge, so it was not a problem. The thicker the coating, the less degradation. For example, a 130 micrometer polystyrene film survived in experiments because it was thick.

26:37But sometimes you're going to need thinner coatings. You don't want to put a big, thick coating on an airplane because you got weight concerns there, right? So they are recommending that coatings be chosen based on how much of an electric field it can tolerate, something that no one has considered when creating coatings against rain. A study was published in Nature last week, so this is, in fact, peer-reviewed. Yeah, interesting. And just the idea that these water droplets are just carrying little lightning bolts is a cool visual. They build it up, right? Yeah, they collect it over time. Well, I mean, what this reminds me of.

27:11They literally do the electric slide, Jason. Oh, my goodness. You're right. You're right. The rain is doing the electric slide. That's amazing. I never saw that coming. Good one. What this reminded me of, and I am no science know-it-all, but this is kind of where my mind went, is when I have been in low humidity places, I might touch something and I might get shocked upon contact. And I'm just like, oh, wow. Yeah, you build up that static electricity when you're shuffling your feet. And so that charge still existing, of course. It's not the same mechanism, but it's the same kind of thing, right?

27:53Sliding across the carpet builds up a charge on you. Sliding across the painted surface builds up a charge in the raindrop. Yeah, that's a good comparison. It's just such a fascinating study, and I just love the idea of it. Oh my goodness. You couldn't. Nobody ever was, was considering this to be some, like no one thought I bet those raindrops are full of electricity. These folks were just trying to research like, huh, why, why does corrosion happen when we think we've got a good coating on here? And they found out, Oh, tiny lightning bolts are bursting through when it slides off another surface.

28:29Yeah. So again, when you're designing something, if you're like, well, nothing's going to, there's no trees, there's no other surface. This is open. And I don't have to worry about that effect. Maybe you can use a different kind of coding on it. I know this is material science, you know, which we don't normally talk about on DTNS. But like you said, it's really fascinating. I just thought it was very fascinating. Thank you for sending that in, wild tech. Indeed. That was some pretty wild tech, indeed. If you would like to talk about stuff, there's some folks talking about vibe coding in our Discord.

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30:31all right time for some quick headlines to make you look smarter in the future or improve your oral health dyson camera jet that would if you didn't know what this was what would you think the dyson camera jet was i bet you might not guess toothbrush no definitely not dyson camera jet is a 499 toothbrush with a water jet that will automatically turn on to get between the teeth when a 100 ,000 pixel macro lens that scans at 28 images per second tells it to. It is a machine learning algorithm that was trained on 470 ,000 dental images behind all that. Use what it knows to tell the jet to fire water in short bursts to rinse problem spots while you brush.

31:17It's also doing the electric brushing just like an Oral-B or any of those. It works with the My Dyson app if you want to get a live view, guided cleaning, a coverage map, and more. When I hear smart toothbrush, this is kind of what I've always imagined. I don't know if I need this, but I'm like, yes, something that shows me like, you need to move over here. Oh, I'm automatically going to try to get between your teeth here. Dyson did say, disappointingly, that this is meant for people who don't floss. But imagine if you do floss, this will be like extra clean. Wow. And at$499 for a toothbrush, you're going to be tempted to share this thing in your family.

31:59Who's going to use a$500 toothbrush all on their own? How much are the replacement bristles? We need to look that up. That's what I'm wondering. Is it user-swappable? And would you even want to do that? I don't even know. But you look that up. I can tell you're typing furiously. Samsung. $30. $30 for a two-pack. So$15 each. Because you can't use these forever. You always have to replace them. So then, yeah, you could each have your own$15. That's actually not too bad. That's not too bad. Not too bad. Samsung expanded the Galaxy Book 6 lineup with a$800 14-inch model that pairs Intel Core 3 or Core 5 processors, 25 hours of battery life, 45 watts charging with its Galaxy AI, of course.

32:45It's available now in select markets. Nice little MacBook, what is it? Neo. Neo-like laptop for the Samsung lover. Yeah. NVIDIA is going to launch DLSS 5 on September 3rd. I'm sorry to those of you who do not like it. It'll be launching along with NBA 2K7. DLSS 5 caused a lot of negative response when it was first announced because it uses neural models to upscale the graphics on the fly. and everyone was worried that this was just going to ruin video games. Most of the reviewers who have looked at it now that it's actually implemented say, it does a little bit. It's sort of helpful. It doesn't make things worse.

33:29Maybe you don't need it though, because DLS S5 only works with NVIDIA's RTX 50 series GPUs, which are the more expensive ones. Yes, indeed they are. Perplexity launched hybrid compute. So this splits AI work between cloud models like your opus 5 or gpt 5.6 saw and smaller ones that run locally on your mac so you know if you're if you have a strong feeling about your files not you know leaving your machine they don't have to it requires apple silicon with at least 32 gigs of memory is available for pro and mac subscribers that's nifty to to give you that option yeah tp link announced the archer 8 ultra its first consumer Wi-Fi 8 router.

34:13That's going to give you speeds up to 19 gigabits per second across three brands and 18 antennas. You can pre-order it at the end of the month, September 30th in select regions. Don't have a U.S. date yet for you Americans like me. And also, no, Wi-Fi 8 is not certified yet, but it doesn't matter. We kind of know what it's going to be. Meta's Ray-Ban smart glasses can now give you turn-by-turn walking directions by voice. The update's available in the U.S., Canada, and select cities globally. This would have been very handy for me during my Ireland trip last year for DTNS because I used the glasses when I was navigating my way through Ireland.

34:48So I would like that a lot. That's a good update. Debian has voted to accept contributions from coders who use LLM-based coding tools like Codex and Cursor as long as the output meets the same quality and legal standards as human written code. You can't just say, the AI did it. Like, you're responsible. You can use it if you want, but you're responsible for the code you submit. That is different than what Gen2, NetBSD, and OpenBSD have done, which banned contributions from people using those kinds of tools. Although Linux itself, Linus Torvald says, yeah, no, you should be able to use these tools.

35:23And it does not prohibit the use of the tools in the Linux kernel project. Yeah. Use, but verify. Please. That's important. Like Nixon. Sure. A solar-powered mobile clinic. This is cool, actually. Solar-powered mobile clinic built by students at Eindhoven University of Technology drove 800 kilometers across Kenya carrying an X-ray machine, an ultrasound scanner, and a vaccine refrigerator being powered at one off-grid stop. It generated more energy than it consumed while it was running all three. That's pretty spectacular. I got some sun in Kenya. That's what that tells me. Yeah, no kidding. Yeah, this is very cool, though.

36:05I love this as a proof of concept. Sure. Windows users, you're getting a toggle. If you're in Europe, you already have this one, though. But it'll let you remove Bing and Microsoft Store suggestions from search so that when you're searching your files on your machine, that's all you get is your files. You don't get Bing and Microsoft Store results. European users got these controls a couple of years, two and a half years ago, because of the Digital Markets Act and Microsoft's now bringing them to everybody. Trickled down to everyone. I think that's a good move. atlas is a new wearable that sticks behind your ear and reads your brain waves to measure how focused and present you are throughout the day it costs five hundred dollars plus thirty dollars a month for replacement sensors i wonder if you need to check the app to know if you're distracted and if so doesn't that mean that you are it's a good point just yeah the act of checking the app might am i distracted right now here let me get out my you know i wasn't but suddenly it's saying i am right now huh yeah very curious you could save yourself five hundred dollars just ask yourself that question uh we end every episode of dtns with some shared perspectives today we have a little conversation on our patreon uh between rw nash and stim yeah so rw nash noted the advantage of having people in the loop for the automated phlebotomist that we talked about.

37:30We talked about it last week on the show. And then over the weekend, I talked to Dr. Jerry Tolbert. I want to apologize for continually calling him Gary in that interview. Dr. Jerry Tolbert explaining like why he as a doctor thinks this is advantageous. R.W. Nash said, I suppose it's better than having your blood taken by someone who's having a bad day to have this machine do it. However, it's a one-trick pony and doctors and nurses are far more flexible to which stim added i think the people working in places like lab core as phlebotomists are essentially one-trick ponies themselves in the sense that you mean they're doing the same task over and over much like this machine would i wouldn't expect it to replace an actual doctor or nurse in other situations but simply remove one task from the doctor or nurse's very long to-do list in the hospital or clinic And in fact, yeah, if you listen to the interview, Dr.

38:21Jerry was like, this isn't going to even replace a phlebotomist. You're not replacing people at all with this. What he thinks is going to happen is suddenly you're not overwhelmed. Suddenly you can actually pay attention to the patient. And suddenly you don't have as much of a waiting room line because you can do more people at once because they can supervise up to three people at once. So yeah, I think this is good for everybody. Love that. Yep. All good things. Well, if you've got thoughts on a story, of course, you can comment on our Patreon like Stim and RW Nash did, or you can send us an email if you've got some insight, especially if you're like, hey, this is my area of work.

38:58I kind of know about this. Share it with us. Feedback at dailytechnewsshow.com. Thanks again to RW Nash and Stim for contributing to today's show. Thank you for being along for Daily Tech News Show. You can keep the show in business by becoming a patron at patreon.com slash DTNS. We'll see you tomorrow.

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