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2:17This is the Daily Tech News for Wednesday, April 29th, 2026. We tell you what you need to know, give you some context, and try to help each other understand. Today, what Elon Musk said under oath in his lawsuit against OpenAI. And did Sony just bring back the C-bomb? That's a CMOS issue with DRM, not anything else that you might wonder about. I'm Tom Merritt. I am also Sarah Lane. Let's start with what you need to know with that big story. Hat tip to Motang for posting this one on our subreddit. YouTuber ModdedWarfare posted that on April 25th, he noticed some newly bought PS4 games, PlayStation 4 games, had a start and end valid period listed in the information screen, implying there was a 30-day DRM in place that would require an internet connection every 30 days to validate the game and keep it functional.

3:17YouTuber Spawnwave was able to confirm that and even showed that if the counter went to zero, the game stopped working. On the PS5, that period does show up, but it's not visible in the information screen. So you only find out when you get an error message to pop up if that counter reaches zero. Eurogamer notes that if your CMOS battery dies, the battery that powers, among other things, the internal clock in your PlayStation, then the games would not be playable because it couldn't check the time. That's the C-bomb we were talking about. Uh-huh. So a user called Ann Shrew on Reset Era did a little digging and claims that the games actually just have one 30-day offline license from purchase and that the first time you connect after the 15th day, it resets to an infinite license.

4:07So this isn't a every 30 days, it's just connect once during the first 30 days, but not before the 15th day. A source told Does It Play that this was a bug unintentionally activated when fixing an exploit. And the 15th day is coincidentally right after the refund window, which led Eurogamer to speculate that maybe the exploit being fixed was people exploiting the infinite license and returning the game for a refund. So you couldn't get the infinite license until after you'd passed the refund period. One more wrinkle here. People are putting screenshots up of chats with Sony customer support where the support person appears to say this is an intentional 30-day online check.

4:51But Sony hasn't come out and said anything officially on this, and those screenshots could easily be generated. Or I think even more likely, it could be a chatbot that is hallucinating the 30-day thing and is actually incorrect. Either way, it does seem that something with the 30-day support thing has been going on and it's got people up in arms. Sarah, it's another example of DRM generally affects the law abiding, the rule abiding people more than it affects the people trying to get around the rules. Yeah, this is all a bit of a head scratcher to me just because I'm not buying PS4 games myself.

5:27But the idea of like, okay, we've got 30 day thing. And then, you know, 30 day offline license connects within 15 of the 30 days. Yeah. And not telling you any of this. And you know what, it's kind of like, okay, what happened here? Yeah. Most of the time people using a PlayStation will go online for various reasons to get updates, to message their friends, to play online games. So for most people, this is not an issue. And I think what Sony thought was most people will go online between the 15th and the 30th day and they won't have an issue. And if we put this in place, it'll stop the people who buy the game, download it with the infinite license, and then return it in the 15-day window because they won't have the license and then they won't be able to renew the license because they won't have the game anymore.

6:24That seems like a very elaborate way to go after refund scams, but that could be it. We don't know. Sony hasn't said. The idea of customer support bots as well. I think we're all very familiar with them at this point. And sometimes I'm like, that actually was pretty seamless. I don't know, contacted Amazon or whatever company about something and we got everything squashed. They also don't work well. In a lot of other scenarios. So I wonder how many customers are just like, what is going on here? Like, are there people behind the scenes? Is there a man behind the curtain? Yeah. And if I want to chase some clout on social media, I'm going to try to make the chat bot say something.

7:13Or if it just says something, I'm going to screenshot that and post it to Reddit as soon as I can. Right. Yeah. And say like, look at this. You know, yeah, it's a meltdown. Not to mention, sometimes human support people say stuff, and it turns out later that they're like, yeah, they didn't know what they were talking about. They're just trying to get you off the line. Oh, Tom, come on. Humans are perfect. That's true. What am I saying? We never say anything wrong. We're never tired. I'm less worried about offending the humans these days than the machines, though. So there is that. There is that.

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11:24There's more we need to know today. Let's get to the briefs. Let's do it. So we mentioned yesterday that Elon Musk's lawsuit against OpenAI, Sam Altman and Greg Brockman, co-founders of OpenAI, began yesterday. Musk is alleging unjust enrichment and breach of charitable trust. Basically, what he's saying is they turned OpenAI from a nonprofit that he helped build into a for-profit that he doesn't benefit from. A win by Musk could stop OpenAI from issuing stock and cause it to unwind some of the changes that it's made to both the nonprofit foundation and the for-profit subsidiary. But whatever happens, Musk's first day of testimony was quite the quote factory, Tom.

12:13Okay. All right. So let's go through some of these. Mm-hmm. It is not okay to steal a charity. That's my view. Wow. It's probably the one getting the most attention. Yeah, because who's stealing charity? On AI, it could make everyone prosperous, but it could also kill us all. On the one hand, but on the other hand. Yeah. Yeah. Musk said of Google's Larry Page, he said he would be fine as long as artificial intelligence survives. Then he called me a speciesist for caring about humans more than AI. He's trying to explain why they started OpenAI, because Larry Page was evil. Got it. OK. Yep. Yep.

12:52Meanwhile, OpenAI attorney William Savitt said in a statement to the jury that while While still involved in OpenAI, Musk said in emails, quote, probably better to have a standard C Corp with a parallel nonprofit. And it might have been a mistake for OpenAI to be set up as a nonprofit, given progress DeepMind was making. Yeah. So in other words, he was saying all the things that they eventually did that he's now suing them for. Um, I guess, I guess he did respond to that and said like, no, I'm fine. I was fine with them having a capped profit situation, which is what they did have until they recently revised it.

13:33It's the revisions that he is claiming are, are somehow damaging to him. Uh, I'm not sure how persuasive this will be. There is a jury. I think that part of this is confusing too. The jury is there to make an advisory decision that the judge will then validate. So the judge makes the final decision. And there's the decision on liability, whether OpenAI is liable for damaging Elon Musk by changing to be more profitable. And then is there damages? Like, what is the remedy for that? And so she could find that it was damaging and that the remedy is pay him a dollar, right? That's probably not what's going to happen.

14:10But those are two separate decisions. I mean, so much of this is, you know, for for folks who are like, isn't Elon Musk like the most rich person in the entire world? Like what's happening here? So I understand that question. Yeah. I also I also feel like this does feel like Elon Musk thinks that open AI is really, really important to him. Hmm. Um, you know, there are other, we've got Grok right on, on X.com. Wait, a competitor to open AI's models. Yes. Yeah. But so it's like, why is he going after this so much? It's not for monetary reasons. He doesn't want to make money. Yeah. In fact, he said anything he wins monetarily, he will donate to open AI's foundation.

15:01Right. Yeah. So he, he's not trying to directly benefit from this. It feels a little bit like a personal squabble. I wouldn't know. I don't know any of them personally. I don't either. It sure feels like that to me too. That's what it, yeah. At this point, it's sort of like, come on, guys. Everybody's doing really great here. Why are we fighting about this? It is well known that Musk and Altman and Brockman and Slutskiver were the folks who were the main driving force between starting OpenAI. They had a falling out with Musk. And the story goes that Musk wanted to become CEO and take charge of it.

15:43And they didn't want that to happen. And so there's been some reporting in the opening statement about that. We're going to get more of that. We're going to get more of those emails about Musk throwing a tantrum and leaving open AI and pulling out his funding, all of that, which caused them to make the cap profit situation. Some of that is known. We're going to find out more of that. It's going to be very dramatic to people who follow this sort of thing. Really, if you're not in it for the lols, the only other thing you need to know is who wins in the end, because that could decide whether ChatGPT continues to work as well as it has for you or not.

16:17If you're not a user of OpenAI, it probably isn't going to directly impact your future much. Yeah. Indeed. Let's go on to another CEO facing a challenge. Financial Times reports on two challenges facing incoming CEO John Ternus when he takes over Apple on September 1st. The first challenge, cost of RAM. It is estimated to increase by 400 % for Apple in 2027. Apple has dictated terms in this market. Usually they lock up their supplies in advance, but there's only so far they can go and they are no longer the biggest buyer anymore. So memory is going to go from taking up about 10 % of the cost of materials for an iPhone to maybe 45 % of the cost of materials for an iPhone.

17:05So they either have to figure out a way to get cheaper RAM, which good luck with that, or reduce profit margins or increase the price or probably some combination of both. We will see. They could eat the margins, hoping that they could just get through it and the RAM price comes down later. We'll see what Ternus decides. Then there's the larger supply chain decisions of who assembles the stuff, who makes the stuff. Apple has been attempting to move manufacturing to India, and those moves have not gone as smoothly as they could have because those factories rely on Chinese expertise and Chinese components.

17:43You want experts to come tell you, like, this is how you set up the factory and you need the pieces to make the stuff. And China has been good at keeping both of those out of Indian factories. So Ternus is going to have to need to balance pressures from both the U.S., which would like Apple to bring manufacturing to the U.S., but certainly doesn't want it to happen in China. And China, which, what's the opposite? They want all the manufacturing to stay in China. I don't know, Sarah. I don't know how much we have to say on this other than like, yes, that's good reporting by the Financial Times.

18:13Those do seem to be the big two challenges for Ternus. I guess my question, and we won't hear from it at WWDC because we don't talk about prices for things. But later this year, with Apple obviously going through, you know, getting a new CEO. So they're going to have to navigate that pretty delicately. and the idea of a new iPhone models and makes, a foldable, for example, stuff like that, how expensive is it going to be? If the RAM challenge, which affects everybody, if that is something that Apple can eat temporarily, the company has the money to do that. Yeah. And the iPhone they announced two weeks after Ternus takes over won't reflect the increased RAM price quite yet because Apple has lost up supply.

19:15Because they've been doing this for a while. It's the 2027 announcements that are going to be the ones where we might start to see some kind of change. Well, and then you get into, you know, you get a lot of analysts saying, oh, you know, Apple has lost their way under the new CEO. And it's like a lot of the stuff has been in the making for quite some time. Yeah. And other companies also having, you know, taken a hit. Yeah. But this is not going to be the easiest of terms. I imagine Tim Cook will probably take a lot of that supply chain heat off. He'll be glad handling leaders in the U.S. and China still because he's still executive director.

19:57So maybe that will take some of the pressure off. And obviously, Cook is the supply chain guy. So if anybody can help figure out the RAM, it's him. But the decisions on that all fall on John Ternus after September 1st. There's a part of me that's like, if anyone can figure out the RAM, it's him. It's like, but there isn't any. Yeah, exactly. If anyone can figure it out, it's him. That doesn't mean he can figure it out. But if he can't, nobody can. Can you make it magically out of air? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Well, YouTube TV has launched MultiView, letting you put any live channel into a quad box.

20:32So you can't put recorded or on-demand content into the box. Older equipment, Google estimates about 5 % of users, aren't going to get these features. But for the newer ones of us, kind of fun if you watch a lot of sports. A lot of people are really excited about this because it isn't just sports anymore, right? You can now put news in there or movies if they're linear, right? Yeah. I know you use YouTube TV, but you don't even really use the Multiview for sports, do you? Not very often. I mean, March Madness, sure. But otherwise, it's like I'm watching the game that I'm watching. I'm really not trying to watch like a quad box of a bunch of games.

21:15But I get why sports is a really good way to take advantage of this because you're kind of watching some game off to the side, but you can choose your audio. Like, this is the audio that I'm actually watching, but I'm kind of just looking at everything else. For other stuff like news or movies, I don't know. Yeah. I don't – that feels chaotic to me. Our producer Amos was saying he would like this for YouTube so he could put races that he's catching up on, like watching a race that's already happened, and then watch something else while he's keeping an eye on the race. So maybe there's stuff like that.

21:59I'd be curious feedback at DailyTechNewsShow.com if you're the person who's like, no, no, no, I've been waiting for the non-sports open quad box because I want to put these things in it, and I haven't been able to do it until now. I personally, the only time I do it is when the Dodgers and the Cardinals are playing at the same time. My wife wants to watch the Dodgers. I want to watch the Cardinals. We'll do a double box on MLB's app. And maybe, I don't know, something like, I mean, Tom, you go to many more music shows than I do, but something where, you know, you're just kind of, you're watching a variety of stuff.

22:35Yeah. And during Coachella, they do quad boxes on YouTube and that's super useful. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And maybe you care about one more than the other three, but you're still kind of trying to keep your eye on it. Yeah. A little update on the fight between Anthropic and the United States government. There is still a declaration that Anthropic is a supply chain risk that is still working its way through the courts with preliminary injunctions. But whether there's a preliminary injunction or not, government agencies kind of have to behave as if it is in effect. So Axios is reporting that the White House is drafting executive action that could provide a workaround for agencies that want to use Anthropik's mythos model to find security vulnerabilities, but they can't right now because there's this whole supply chain risk thing.

23:28I know. The action might resolve the whole dispute. That'd be great if they just said, let's just get rid of the whole thing. But apparently some folks at the Department of Defense are really dug in on not giving in on this. The other option is that they might just provide an exception for agencies to say like, well, the Department of Defense, Homeland Security, they have to abide by this. But if you're using mythos, you know, executive order grants you an exemption, you're allowed to do this, which would be so silly because the whole point of a supply chain risk is if it's that risky, nobody should use it.

24:00But that's where we are now. Yeah. I'm not going to laugh because it's not really funny. But the whole idea of the US Department of Defense saying anthropic supply chain risk. However, if we were to use Mythos, maybe we could come to some sort of agreement because we actually really want to use your technology. Well, I don't even know if the Department of Defense wants to use Mythos so much as other agencies are like, great, do you want to have your fight? Fine. We would like to use the Mythos model to find some. Yeah, like, can we use it? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, this one's another head scratcher, really.

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26:42All right, let's get to some quick headlines that are going to make you look so smart and probably smell better, too. GitHub, maybe smells good, posted a note about its recent reliability issues saying, we are sorry. Meanwhile, researchers at Wiz published a remote code execution vulnerability affecting GitHub Enterprise Server and GitHub.com. They are really sorry. DJI released the mic mini too. Not the Mac mini, mic mini microphone. It's an update to its popular wireless mic. Has extended range, can change colors with these little magnetic plates and has some new voice tone presets. And it's cheaper.

27:22Available in Europe, not yet in the United States. Hasn't been certified by the FCC, but available in Europe for 89 euros or 89 pounds for the camera kit that gives you two transmitters and a receiver or 49 euros, 54 pounds for the mobile kit, which is one transmitter and one receiver. Speaking of Europe, the European Commission issued a preliminary finding that Facebook and Instagram fell short in enforcing a minimum 13-year-old age restriction because it had no effective controls in place to check the correctness of the self-declared date of birth. Meta can now dispute the findings and propose remedies before a final finding is made.

28:04Meta basically was like, no, but we could tell. Yeah, we knew. We could tell if they were lying. Trust us. Following OpenAI's new deal with Microsoft that we mentioned earlier this week, OpenAI's models are now available on Amazon's AWS. So if you've been waiting for that as an AWS customer, yay, go get them. Now, Apple doesn't let Vibe coding apps modify the app's code, meaning previews of any apps that you make have to be done on the web. One of the biggest apps, Lovable, has just launched an update on the App Store. One of the first to update to comply with these guidelines. Yeah, these are new guidelines that Apple put in place, caught some of those vibe coding apps flat-footed when they're like, okay, but if you vibe code an app, how do you play with it to make sure it works the way you want?

28:50Well, you got to kick it out to the web, and Lovable is like one of the big ones. So kind of a notable moment. They're very lovable. They are very lovable, too. It's right there in the name. Hey, you know what I love? When CES announcements ship, here's another one for you. Asus has opened orders for that ROG Zephyrus Duo, the huge hinged 16-inch dual display laptop that they announced at CES. You can now order it. So go spend some money on it if you want. in celebration of its 20th year google translate launched a new feature for android that helps guide pronunciation oh that's english spanish hindi oh that doesn't help me i mean you probably need some help i need help with pronouncing spanish too uh but that's not one of the ones i'm actively trying to learn at the moment so yeah it's it's uh it's rolling out uh the company says it's coming to more languages soon.

29:51But I'm into this because I cannot tell you how many times I open up a tab on Google and I'm like, how to pronounce whatever word. Yeah, yeah. Just help me. Because there's always a YouTube video up there. I wonder how it handles accents, though, you know, because like Mexican pronunciation is different than Spain. Very true. Yeah. A revival of six second looping video app. Vine has launched on Google Play and Apple's App Store. Everyone. We're back, baby. Decades National Nightmare is over. Has 500 ,000 archived Vine videos. You can see the hits of the past, but you can also post new ones. Some of the old Vine creators are coming back and celebrating.

30:35It's a Jack Dorsey best thing, too. So, yeah. Yeah. It's called the Vine. And I mean, the whole Vine and then what ended up being TikTok was at one point very similar. TikTok is a totally different platform at this point. But yeah, I'm interested to see what kind of creativity we get out of it. Certainly a nostalgia play. I'm curious if it sticks. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Microsoft released the source code for the 86 DOS 1.00 kernel, as well as early development snapshots of PC DOS 1.00. I always love a little open sourcing of legacy code. And then I wanted to point this out. Wired has a write-up from Will Knight on a robotic arm called Eka, E-K-A, that can do so many different kinds of tasks with different levels of sensitivity, very delicate at things, very rough things.

31:33That Knight, who covers this space very well, says it feels like we may be approaching a chat GPT moment for physical devices, like for robotics. Worth a read. Go check it out at Wired. We like to end every episode of DTNS with some shared perspectives, and we count on you to help us with that. Today, Andrew is helping us understand. Yeah, Andrew was listening to the Pocket OS production deletion story where a little bit of code, a little bit of, I believe it was cursor's code, got out of hand. The agent deleted an entire development platform. And Andrew said, I was taken aback not by the deletion, but by the way of working.

32:18It sounded like they gave the AI access to the same level of the running system with permissions that could affect change. Now, it's been 20 years since web-based deployment pipeline tools were released and infrastructure as code was developed. Best practices backed by good data have coalesced around the idea that humans shouldn't directly make changes to running systems. Instead, they should build and test a repeatable way to deploy the system that the tools then deploy. AI behaves much more like a human than a repeatable tool and should probably be treated as such, in this case, direct access to change things.

32:55Setting up these processes take time, even though they tend to be faster and safer once implemented. And a lot of places I've worked start with humans having access to everything and doing bespoke work with a plan to automate later, usually eventually spurred on by a production incident. I think we're speed running all those steps with agents right now. In short, don't be mad at the agent. be mad at the lack of good process. At least that's what Andrew thinks. So thank you. That kind of goes in line with most of the reactions we got where people are like, the agent should have not done this, yes, but it shouldn't have been able to do it.

33:32So there's plenty of blame to go around. Humans getting blamed yet again. Yet again. We are always the weak links where the problem exists between keyboard and computer. But who made that agent, huh? Who watches the watchers. Also, Andrew was one of the people who wrote in about IPV8. Several people pointed out that there is a lively discussion going on about whether the proposal for IPV8 that was drafted and published on the IETF is serious or not, because I could go publish a draft on IETF. It's not as easy as Wikipedia edits or something like that. And it takes a little something, but you can do it.

34:14It's not like you have to get through a big approval process to get it up there. And how many people are really trying to get through that trend? No, but I guess some people are like, somebody generated a proposal and then did this on a lark to see if they could cause a stir. Just to see if they could. It's not impossible. But there's a debate over whether this is just not a very good proposal with some technical weaknesses or a total joke. But thanks to Jerry in the Discord for bringing this up. We had a really good discussion about it. And I think we both came down on the idea of like, yeah, could be a joke.

34:51Seems more likely that it's, you know, somebody trying to come up with something that has some holes in it. But people are calling it AI slop. And I'm like, it's better than AI slop. Even if it was generated, it's better than that. But that doesn't mean it's perfect. Your mileage may vary. Maybe you think it's a total joke, but something good to let people know about. Well, you might be very prolific in our Discord, and we appreciate that. But if you're thinking about something, you have an insight into a story, maybe you have something sparked your interest that we talked about already. You can also share with us feedback at dailytechnewsshow.com.

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