SpaceX IPO is All Systems Go - DTNS 5289

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2:33This is the Daily Tech News for Friday, June 12, 2026. We tell you what you need to know, give you the important context, and help each other understand.

2:41Sarah Lane: Today, the SpaceX IPO is all systems go and breaking some records. You see what we did there? All systems go. Anyways, I'm Jason Howell. And I'm Sarah Lane. Let's start with what you need to know with a big story.

2:58Yes, ladies and gentlemen, it is official. SpaceX debuted on the NASDAQ today. Shares opened at$150 per. That's more than its$135 IPO price, jumping more than 23 % to$166 per share in midday training, which we are firmly implanted in right now at the time of this recording. So things could continue changing. That puts the market value at around$2.17 trillion, according to CNBC's reporting. Crazy. The question, of course, remains whether this strong surge of excitement right out of the gate, is it sustainable? Is it durable enough to last? Or is this kind of craziness driven more by people just really anticipating the ability to buy this stock or really any of the major IPOs happening, any of the stock for the major IPOs that we've been talking about in recent weeks?

3:58Along with that record-setting IPO of SpaceX is Elon Musk, because this is Musk's baby, basically, his own record-setting place as the first trillionaire on record. So one person worth more than a trillion dollars reported$1.1 trillion in wealth, which is just astronomical, no pun intended, once again. um tesla fell more than two percent on the news by the way so i have to assume that's just because

4:30Sarah Lane: tesla investors are like well now he's going to care about spacex more yeah right that sort of thing but but yeah just going into you know back to spacex's uh you know extremely successful ipo looks like and and like you said justin this stuff tends to spike early and then kind of flatten out and then you never know. You know, the company has to do a lot of things to keep investor enthusiasm level or, you know, or better. We at the end of DTNS Live yesterday, we were talking about the 135 price per stock for the IPO. Obviously, it did better than that. And I think this is a very good example of and I don't play the stock market, partly because I really can't, you know, because I'm a journalist.

5:26Sarah Lane: But but this is this is very much like reactionary versus wait, OK, long game. And then, OK, this is not for me anymore. So, you know, you've got a lot of variables going on here. Yeah, a lot of variables. And I mean, today, like this was just the announcement. It wasn't even this isn't even going to be a full day of trading, essentially. So you kind of at the very least have to wait until early next week to kind of start seeing like, OK, there's probably a lot of opportunistic people that know things, you know, like I'm not a stock trader as well. Like I don't I don't dabble in any of this stuff on a financial sense.

6:05So definitely don't listen to us for any financial clues as far as what you should do. But my understanding a lot of the times with things like this is that people get in on the news immediately because there is this often anyways, there is this attention spike and this excitement spike that you can then capitalize on by pulling out. And then, you know, that makes the next week that's coming up going to be probably pretty interesting to see where things kind of balance out at. And what that excitement signals, I think, for me, is kind of the deeper story here, which is, is this a referendum or kind of a mark of people's confidence in Elon Musk as a leader?

6:44is this about AI as a whole? Because as we've been talking about the last handful of weeks, you got SpaceX, you got OpenAI, you got Anthropic, all basically seeding out their unofficial but official announcements of IPO happening sometime this year. SpaceX being the one that's really kind of bringing it to the table first has a lot to capitalize on from anyone who's just really excited about getting into this game, into the market with these major, major AI IPOs that are coming. SpaceX is the only one that you can really do that with right now. And so could SpaceX be the one that's better than the others at the launch of their IPOs?

7:27Sarah Lane: Well, and SpaceX really is the first company and possibly the first company to be able to make this, bring this to fruition, to have data centers in space. And so and that is that's, you know, we've got all sorts of arguments going on down here on Earth about, you know, data centers and how is that, you know, affecting the local community in an adverse way. And, and yeah, I mean, if this, if this is something that can be tested and works and I mean, sorry to all the aliens out there, you know, up in space, but otherwise is, is better for earth than us doing more damage to earth down here. I think that's where a lot of the excitement about SpaceX is coming from.

8:19Sarah Lane: Not the only company to be doing this, obviously, but the company with the most money, that's for sure. Now, OK, speaking of the most money, then we got Mr. Musk. Musk with his$1.1 trillion of worth. How do we feel about that? Every time I walk by, like when I'm walking my dog and I walk by a house for sale, you know, there's a for sale sign out front. I kind of look at it and go, oh, that's that's nice. You know, maybe need some work, but that's nice. I think to myself, Elon Musk could just give me a million dollars and it wouldn't even it wouldn't even, you know, scratch the needle in any way.

9:01Sarah Lane: So that's how I feel about that. But yeah, he's he's probably not going to do a whole lot. He's probably not going to do that, but I can continue to want it. Yeah, that would be nice. Spread the wealth, mister. I don't know. One person having the wealth totaling$1.1 trillion. And as we know, these numbers, they just go up. This is just the milestone now. That number is going to increase, whether it's attached to Musk or somebody else comes along. But no matter how you slice it, that is an insane amount of money that one person has value attached to them. Well, and there's the whole, you know, I think the theme of the show is milestones at this point.

9:49Sarah Lane: And yeah, OK, you're the first person to do that. Congrats. But what what do you do with that? What next? What next? What now? Yeah, like there's a lot of corporate stuff that you can do, philanthropic stuff that you could do, has a big family. Like there's all sorts of things that you can do. And I just, yeah, I wonder what, besides being like, ding, ding, ding, look at you, trillion dollar man, what next? How do you have that value? And how does any human being have that value and choose a life like live and choose a life that adheres to values that kind of connect to people who don't have that that kind of right attached to them?

10:39Sarah Lane: And historically, a lot of people who have more money than people who don't don't necessarily think about that. Yeah, they don't. So their reality is so different from everyone else. And so, yeah, it makes me nervous. But it makes me a little nervous, too. But, you know, this is the story of the day. So that's that's what we're going with. We'll see. We'll see what the world's first trillionaire does next. But what we do now is what we're doing next is thanking everybody who makes this show possible. DTNS is made possible by all of you listening and some of you watching as well. Thanks to Kazuya Darklight, ThatCharlieDude, Justin Zellers, and Chris Beneteau.

11:27Thank you.

11:28Sarah Lane: Thank one and all.

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14:24All right, there is plenty more we need to know today. So let's get right to the briefs.

14:28Sarah Lane: Let's do it. Phone maker Nothing, yes, that's the phone maker's name, has partnered with Best Buy to sell its phones and audio tech in the US at its stores. This moves the brand into nationwide in-store placement and expands beyond mostly online availability. This includes the newest phone, the 4A Pro, the Phone 3, the Ear 3, the Ear A, the Headphone 1, and the Headphone A devices. If you're not familiar with Nothing's nomenclature, just trust me, that's what they're called. Nothing says that their products will be available in more than 500 stores and also on BestBuy.com. Yeah, I think this is a smart move.

15:11It's a smart move. It's a big deal for a company like nothing. This immediately reminds me of another Android smartphone brand, OnePlus, which kind of had its heyday. I feel like it's kind of over the hump at this point on the other side, but it had a moment where it was showing where they were releasing some of their devices in carrier stores. That didn't last for a number of reasons. Now, nothing's kind of following a similar playbook, but I have a feeling that nothing's going to do better in this position because they're such a unique brand. It's like, yeah, it's like their devices are like showpieces as well as as consumer technology.

15:48Like it's very, very curiosity inducing when you see a nothing phone because they don't look like other phones. And same with their headphones. Their headphones are very different.

15:57Sarah Lane: Well, I think I think going into a retail experience like Best Buy is the best way for some for a brand like nothing which has mostly been just sort of word of mouth retail to consumer type thing um for people to be able to look at this and say well this is actually really cool it got me thinking though jason um about the last time i was in a best buy and there's a best buy that's not that far away from me i mean it's not walkable but you know it's not that far um and i thought about like when was the last time i was in a best buy and it was because i wanted to hold something in my hand. At the time I was buying a TV, so I wasn't going to hold the TV in my hand, but same idea, right?

16:40Sarah Lane: It's like, you want to look at it. You want to see how thin it is. You want to look at the screen. You want to make sure that you've got the specs in order before you go and buy it on Amazon later. But I think that nothing getting into consumers' hands in a more tangible way is a very smart move. Yeah. I mean, we've seen a lot of companies. I've certainly noticed a lot of companies and Google was, you know, they now have stores, but has been doing this for a long time where they basically say like, you know, we aren't in the stores. We only sell online and that works to an extent, but often who you're selling to are the people who already know that you exist.

17:22Right. And they know like, if I want to get that thing, I have to go to your website or I have to go to Amazon or whatever. And with nothing, I'm guessing that the wide majority of mainstream phone buyers have no clue what a company called nothing is all about. They've never heard of it. Or if they've heard of it, they just think, oh, wow, that's a funny name. They probably haven't seen the devices themselves. And when it comes to being in a store, in tangible space and looking at things, a lot of technology can look the same. And that's not something that you could say about nothing god the puns just keep happening uh and unintentionally

17:59Sarah Lane: but i'm like why did you name your company this but here we are yeah so i think that actually plays to nothing's uh benefit whether this proves to be true will will remain to be seen how relevant is you know does best buy as a store and a concept as like this you know brick and mortar kind of thing continue to be, that remains to be seen as well. But I think it's a good move for nothing, for sure. I agree. I agree. Yeah. And I think they could probably do something with it. Shifting gears a little bit, thanks to Motang in the subreddit for flagging this coverage from 404 Media reporting that a software update to Amazon's Rivian-built EV delivery vehicles is actually making the vans shut off air conditioning after 30 seconds.

18:49Now, there are some conditions here. If the driver is out of the seat and the side door is left open for 30 seconds, then the air conditioner turns off, right? So there's some conditions there. That side door has to be open. 30 seconds, turns off. Amazon says the update actually extends climate control for up to 10 minutes after a driver exits. But again, it's going to cut off that AC if the door stays open for the full 30 seconds. Amazon says this is a battery saving measure. Drivers, on the other hand, as you can imagine, not happy at all. They say that much more of their time is spent out of the vehicle rather than inside.

19:27So at this time right now where temperatures already across the country are heating up, many people say to record levels this summer is going to be possibly the hottest on record. the ac system keeps turning off and they say it's a problem because it never quite cools down in the short amount of time that it fires back on once they're in the seat um because they're constantly getting out to do the next delivery and so it's just always hot in the car and uh you know i i like our drivers i want them to be safe i want them to be comfortable i don't know how i feel

19:59Sarah Lane: about this i don't like it i don't like it either and i'll tell you why so on the surface amazon's reasoning is not crazy. Amazon says, listen, you're out of the car, the door is open, you're out of the car for van for 30 seconds or more, and we're trying to not waste energy. So I get that. At the same time, I get a lot of Amazon deliveries and so do my neighbors. So you're going to have a car outside a van, whatever it is, you know, a vehicle outside. And that person is working their tail off, you know, to bring heavy boxes up to everybody's front porches. And there's no way that you could realistically, you know, and depending on where you are delivering your delivery service area, but there is no way that this driver could be just like opening and closing that second door the entire time.

21:03Sarah Lane: You're getting stuff out of the back. It's very laborious work. It really is. And so for Amazon to say, well, we're just going to clamp down on the AC if you're out of the car because we want to conserve energy, that's fine in theory. The reality, and I'm going to side with the drivers here is, yeah, that doesn't work though because then every time I get back in the car, it's hot again. And even think about all the deliveries that are in that same vehicle that might not, you know, like, I don't know. I mean, some of it's like fresh food. It's like you don't want a hot van. I hadn't thought about that.

21:47That's a really good point. Yeah. Yeah. What are they hauling and are they temperature sensitive as well? That's a really good point. Yeah.

21:57Sarah Lane: And for anybody saying like, well, but we need to just like figure out how to, you know, conserve energy. I agree. I'm also a person who, you know, if I if push comes to shove because it's getting pretty hot here in L.A., you know, as we as we inch towards while we're in summer, but, you know, even even towards the hotter part of summer, it's like I got a dog in the backseat. I'm running the AC and I have the windows down now. I don't do that because I think it's fun to waste gas, but, uh, sometimes that's what we have to do because we have to make sure that everybody's comfortable. Yeah. So at the end of the day, it's about comfort and safety, you know, comfort safety.

22:38Sarah Lane: And yeah, I mean, you know, the, these drivers, again, it's like, I mean, these, these people work hard. They really do. They really do. No, I totally agree. I can also understand where where amazon is coming from you know amazon this is the company that is constantly on the hunt for increased efficiency lowering costs in any way shape or form right that's why they are as successful as they are so when i look at this i'm like okay i get the theory i get the idea behind this at the end of the day it really is you know above all of that is safety you want your drivers safe if they're if they're heating up and they never get any sort of cool down you know So dehydration is a threat.

23:19You don't want to go down that road, Amazon, for sure. So maybe you tweak this system. Maybe you get in there and you say it's a 90 second versus 30. Does that improve the situation? Find a balance because I think in theory it makes sense. But clearly the 30 seconds thing is not working because they're never getting any relief in the heat of summer.

23:40Sarah Lane: Well, and I know this is the case for drivers and also warehouse workers at Amazon. not the only company, you know, that this is the case, but, um, what you do, um, is counted, you know, the, the better you are at your job, the more, you know, check marks you make, uh, the more the company thinks that you're a better worker. So if you're, if you're out there driving and you're trying to, you know, get all the things to all the people in a timely manner, and Amazon is very good at that. I mean, their drivers, they will give me the thing that I am expecting between 3 and 5 p.m. pretty much every time.

24:22Sarah Lane: Don't, do not overheat these people, you know? Just throw them a bone. Please, please. All right, so, spooching gears yet again. Mr. Beast, you probably know him, but otherwise, a.k.a. Jimmy Donaldson, just became the first creator to hit 500 million YouTube subscribers, setting yet another record as the platform's biggest individual channel. He celebrated the moment by live streaming the event with around 600 ,000 viewers joining in. This is a very, very popular content creator. Jason, I'm not a Mr. Beast subscriber. Yeah. I know who he is. I know for the most part kind of what he does, you know, a lot of sensationalist stuff, but also some do-gooder stuff.

25:15But yeah, this is yet another milestone for a YouTube creator. Yeah, I mean, you know, it is the milestone episode, apparently. 500 million subscribers, 500 million anything is a lot. And then you talk about 500 million people on YouTube saying, yes, we like you.

25:35Sarah Lane: kind of surprised me a little bit because i was like 500 million i've seen that before but i i've i've i've seen 500 million plays you know or views right subscribers is a whole different thing yeah a whole different thing um yeah and i was like okay so then how close does this come to anyone else and apparently in second behind mr beast is a channel called t-series which is an indian music label it's around 312 million subscribers so mr b is still a you know almost 200 million ahead third place coco melon oh the the kids channel um kids cartoon channel 201 million yeah yeah it's okay you're fine to not know it's one of those like oh like i hear coco melon and my eyes start rolling in the back of my head but you know kids yeah hey kids love it cool you have your thing.

26:32You've got your Cocomelon. The last milestone that Mr. Beast crossed that I could find was the 100 million subscriber mark in 2022. So four years later, from 100 million to 500 million, which means, you know, speaking of trillionaire, maybe at some point we're going to see Mr. Beast head into the trillion spot. I don't know when that's going to happen, but if you follow these, it could be, you know, like three years and suddenly he's at a trillion. I don't know. Yeah.

27:00Sarah Lane: You know, I know there, there are some Mr. Beast, uh, haters. I don't know if I would even say haters, but they were like, eh, this, you know, it's, it's all just, you know, supposed to get attention just for attention's sake, that kind of thing. Um, and I don't, again, like, I don't really follow the content, so I don't have, uh, an opinion one way or the other, but I did go to Mr. Beast YouTube site just to be like, okay, like what, what are the first, you know, five videos and it's very sort of like reality tv stuff oh yeah and i don't i'm not even saying i don't like reality tv because some reality tv i do like very much but i was sort of like oh it's like a they're on an island and it's a girl with like six ex-boyfriends and they're gonna like figure it all out um so some some of this is like okay i see where you're playing a certain card of you know who's going to watch this type of content.

27:58Sarah Lane: I was under the impression that he was like, I'm going to give you a car because I'm Mr. Beast. I mean, that happens. Yeah. His content. I mean, yeah, he does a lot of like contest stuff. He does a lot of kind of reality stuff or like, what's it like to fly on a plane that costs$200, now$2 ,000, now$200 ,000, now$2 million, You know, it kind of shows you the difference. The thing about Mr. Beast is he's so popular and so successful that he has so much money coming in that he then takes that money and kind of puts it into these grand experiments that make a video that no one else can compete with because no one has$200 million to throw at a video.

28:43Sarah Lane: Elon Musk does, but, you know, different. Who knows? Musk might be the next YouTube billionaire of some sort. Oh, well, congrats, Mr. Beast. And if you have thoughts on, you know, his favorite content of yours or if you don't like it at all, let us know. Speaking of letting us know, Live With It, that's our show that reviews products and that we actually live with for a long enough period of time where we really get a good sense of, you know, if it's good or bad and might be worth your time we have our own youtube channel and our own patreon so new stuff everybody this week roger chang and i are talking mini splits if you don't know what that is or you want to know more or you have thoughts head to youtube.com slash at live with it show and as i mentioned we're spreading our wings and reviewing all the things with your help Head to patreon.com slash livewithit to directly support more episodes and let us know what you want us to review on a future show.

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30:55All right, we got some quick headlines for you. Good to know. Make you look smarter in the future even.

31:01Sarah Lane: Books launched a refreshed Go 6 e-reader with stylus support for its InkSense Plus stylus with 3 gigs of RAM, adjustable front lights, a 300 pixels per inch e-paper display, and Play Store Access. Pre-orders open at$200, shipping June 17th. Yeah, I've had a few books devices that are actually really great. The Books Palma is like a smartphone-sized one. Yeah, Books. Books. Yeah, I think I settled on books, but who the heck knows with these names, right? I think they're both probably. The company's like, as long as you're talking about us, it's good. Yeah, exactly. They don't care. Yeah. Googgle.

31:40Oh, no. Or is it Google? Whatever. It doesn't matter. Google. Googgle is I think the name filed a lawsuit to stop a Chinese cybercrime group from using its Gemini system to build hundreds of fraudulent replica corporate and government websites to carry out scams. So it was copying these websites and they don't like that, obviously.

32:03Sarah Lane: Speaking of cybercrime, Oracle warned of a zero-day vulnerability in its PeopleSoft HR and payroll software that hacking group Shiny Hunters exploited to reach more than 100 organizations, stealing hundreds of thousands of student records ahead of Oracle's patch, which is still TBD. Okay, so be on the lookout for that patch, I suppose. Microsoft has mostly repaired a 90-day firmware flaw in Surface devices, many of the Surface devices, in fact, that could permanently brick the laptops with a single packet when secure core and secure boot are disabled. The vulnerability was inadvertently exposed by Microsoft Copilot's Python script, actually, when it autonomously probed backlight controls.

32:50It overwrote the SAM and Surface Aggregator, or that is what it stands for. SAM stands for Surface Aggregator Module Embedded Controller Firmware. That's how they found out this thing even existed. So there you go.

33:04Sarah Lane: FTX founder Sam Bankman-Fried lost his appeals court bid to overturn his 2023 fraud conviction and 25-year prison sentence over customer fraud, customer funds rather, theft, totally in more than $800 billion that ultimately led to the cryptocurrency exchange's collapse back in 2022. This was, I mean, hot story. Haven't heard about this in a while, obviously going through the court. So yeah, I mean, a setback, I'm sure. Yeah. Just, just a quick correction. 8 billion, not 800 billion, almost a trillion. Did I say 800 billion? Yeah. It's okay. It's okay. Hey, we're talking big numbers on today's show.

33:46Sarah Lane: I'm on Elon Musk time. So yes, 8 billion. He's raised the bar entirely. But yeah, totally lost track of the Sam Bankman-Fried thing. But apparently he's, yeah, he's got a long prison sentence and there's no way out. So there you go. Yeah, I mean, appeals can continue, but yes, sit back for sure. Yep. Niantic Spatial responding to reports this week that claimed U.S. defense contractor Vantor was using Pokemon Go AR scans to train its military drone navigation model. Niantic is now saying that Pokemon Go data was never shared with Vantor and no longer receives any app data. This follows Niantic's acquisition by Saudi government-owned Scopely last year.

34:29Sarah Lane: Thanks to R.W. Nash in our subreddit. This one is about Reddit. Reddit now allowing users to post videos in comments within the public, say for work, subreddits that have enabled the feature with videos screened through safety systems before display. So they're like, you can do it, but we want to make sure you're doing it right. And only the subreddits that say yes, thumbs up to this feature will have those. So don't be surprised when you see those videos in the comments. Xiaomi's MIMO AI team announced its open sourcing MIMO code V1.0 under MIT license. It's Terminal Native AI Coding Assistant.

35:09That's forked from OpenCode. They claim it beats CloudCode on some key agentic coding benchmarks. So there you go.

35:18Sarah Lane: Meta is adding an AI assistant that analyzes Instagram performance data to suggest video ideas and will soon release a desktop version of its edits video editing app. Oh, OK. Desktop version of the app. I like that. Waze is slowly rolling out a new traffic light indicator feature. They've been testing this on users routes. Yeah, a lot of time in testing. So finally coming out. So what does that mean exactly? Traffic light indicator. Because it's like if I'm at the traffic light, I know what it is. Oh, yeah. I don't know that it necessarily means that it's showing you red, yellow or green. I think it just shows you that when you come to this intersection, there is a light there versus not.

36:00So when you're navigating, you know that three stops ahead or three streets ahead, there's going to be a light to look forward to.

36:07Sarah Lane: Well, and we've all been in that situation where we're doing, you know, we're going cross town and thinking like, oh, yeah, I'll just cross this sort of major street. And then it's like, oh, no, I can't make a left. I'm here. There's no lights. So traffic light indicator would be very helpful in that situation. Spotify ended its weeks long disco era celebration of its 20 years in business by returning the logo to the original flat screen and green version. And Jason, apparently a lot of people are very happy about this. I mean, yeah. Hey, I liked the disco logo. I don't know why people were so offended by it.

36:44But, you know, who doesn't want a little sparkle in your life? Yeah. Right? Yeah. Disco ball haters. Yeah. See there? See? Anyways, it returned to normal. Oh, yeah.

36:54Sarah Lane: That doesn't seem like something that would upset me. But again, people hate change. Yes. That's pretty much it. We end every episode of DTNS with some shared perspectives. And today, Mike S. has some thoughts on Microsoft's competitor to the Logitech MobiFold travel mouse. Yeah, Mike S. writes, Microsoft's Arc mouse definitely folds flat, which also turns it off. It goes flat, flat, though unbends rather than folding in half like the Logitech. Oh, I see. So I wasn't aware of these mice, mouses, mice. I'm now looking at the MobiFold and sure enough, it's kind of like a foldable phone. It goes ramp into like a clamshell and that makes it portable.

37:37It does.

37:37Sarah Lane: In fact, Tom Merritt just bought one and is going to be doing a review of it on Live With It in the future. Because I was like, this is like an interesting form factor. It's kind of a, you know, it's kind of a clampy thing rather than something that's flat. But so some, I don't know, mouse enthusiasts might say, not for me. But I don't know. I think the form factor actually looks better for you for a hand. I think it's neat. And I think to Mike S's point, you know, this other mouse, the Microsoft Arc mouse does have a folding, but it doesn't do the in half thing, but it does go flat. So, you know, everybody has their own solution, I guess.

38:20Maybe the arc is to like the Z fold, like the book style, the long format that looks like a smartphone versus the, what is the other one? The Logitech one is like the Z flip.

38:34Sarah Lane: Yeah. Like as we're like in the infancy of the foldable era. Yeah. It's sort of like, do you want a flat mouse or a foldable mouse? Like, what do you want? What do you, you know, like. I didn't know that I had a choice. of this has to do with you know how much you're traveling or packing it into a bag or that sort of thing because you know for me i you know i always tell people i'm like um just the magic track pad that's all we do here but if i'm on the road i you know i have to have other options yep yep all right well if you're thinking about anything we've touched on today or you have insight into a story you would like us to know about we would like to hear your thoughts share them with us.

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