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0:07This is the Daily Tech News for Thursday, November 13th, 2025. We tell you what you need to know. We give you important context and we try to help each other understand. Today, Dr. Nikki on using drones to find dino bones. And Sean Hollister from The Verge tell us about Valve's latest attempt to enter the console wars. Might succeed this time. I'm Tom Merritt. I'm Huyen Dwebdow. Let's start with what you need to know with Sean Hollister from The Verge and the big story. The Steam Deck is all the rage. And while you can play it hooked up to a television, it's not always optimal. So Valve aims to fix that with a version meant for the living room.

0:47And Sean, you got to try one. Tell us about the Steam Machine. Oh, my goodness. A decade ago, this company said it was going to change the landscape of game consoles a little bit with something called Steam Machines. And they all failed. They failed hard. And the company knows this, but it's doing it again. And this time, it's not leaving anything to chance. It's building the hardware itself. It is a six-inch cube, just a little bit bigger than a box of Kleenex. There was a box of Kleenex on the table when I was there at Valve headquarters. and I asked, at first they didn't show me the box. They showed me it up on like a PowerPoint screen.

1:27I was like, okay, so how big is this in there? See that box of Kleenex in front of you? Roughly that size. This is going to have six times the performance of the Steam Deck as their marketing claim. Based on a benchmark I got there, I'm thinking it's going to be somewhere around PS5 Pro performance, but it is a Linux PC that plays Windows games and it is tiny. It's supposed to just let you play them unlike other kinds of PCs you might try to put in the living room that have all the Windows cruft on. Yeah. So this has got what, custom AMD chip in it? What does it have for GPU in it? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2:02So the AMD chip looks like it might be a derivative of a laptop chip. The GPU is semi-custom and it's something that I haven't really seen exactly before. There have been laptops and some eGPUs, like external GPUs that you plug into a handheld or plug into a laptop that have chips similar to this, but we're looking at kind of a AMD 7600, RX 7600 Radeon performance. There's like a 7600S for eGPUs that has the same number of cores this does, like 28 of them. And so that's probably in the PS5 Pro plus PS5 plus range. So you're getting mid-range PC gaming. You're going to play your games and an upscaled 4K.

2:44So not native 4K, but the PlayStations don't generally do that either. The Xboxes don't generally do that either. It's going to be upscaled from 1080p is what I saw. And it looked pretty good from about nine feet away. And it looked better than what you would get by plugging a Steam Deck in your TV. Oh my gosh. Yeah, yeah. Steam Deck is, you know, you're usually outputting at around 720p. You can't even get that in the latest games. This should play anything you throw at it, except for games that use exotic forms of anti-cheats that they don't want to let run on SteamOS. But all the AAA games that you'd play right now on a Steam Deck that barely work, they should actually run on them.

3:22Now, that's what you get. Do you give up anything? What are the downsides? Well, compared to a PC, there's not necessarily the same upgradability. You can upgrade the storage. There's an SSD slot in there. Full-length SSDs and small ones both fit. There's technically a memory module slot underneath the fancy cooling system in there. But you're not going to swap out your CPU and you're not going to swap out your GPU. Those are soldered to a custom board. But because they sandwiched all of these components together in an incredible way, the power supply doubles as radio frequency blocking. So you're blocked for interference.

4:02On top of that is a tremendous fin stack of cooling with heat pipes running through it. And that's all built around 120 millimeter fan. It's just this very tight, compact package. If I were to build a PC with these specs, it would take up at least twice as much room. Be a big wart underneath my TV. And this is so small and compact. It comes with a new Steam controller that feels like a real game controller this time. It's not this bold, this monstrosity. But it still has all that flexibility with your twin touchpads. You can get the community controller profile. else you're playing decades of games, PC games on this thing, as well as the latest stuff that's already been optimized for console control.

4:44Yeah, it looked to me like this thing was mostly cooling, that they just like smooshed everything down to the bottom, right? It really is. There's like this thin layer of motherboard, and there's a few little daughter boards around it. Here's for your front ports, here's for your back ports, here's the SSD. But then it's just chunk of power supply, huge chunk of cooling, and then the big fan on the back with some HDMI display ports surrounding it. And of course, it can, unlike the console, it can also be your computer. I spent a week once doing my computing from the Steam Deck. I did my work for The Verge from there.

5:20This has your HDMI and DisplayPort with some daisy chaining, so you can get multiple monitors hooked into it. It's got your four USB-A ports, so you can plug in your peripherals, as well as a USB-C and Ethernet. Yeah. And then how does the controller connect? Like, is it just Bluetooth or does it have a puck? You get all of it. So it's got direct USB-C if you really want to do wired. It's got your Bluetooth, so you can connect it to anything else you'd like to, including maybe your phone if you want to. and it has a custom 2.4 gigahertz radio stack. That's with a puck, little USB-C puck about that big around.

5:59This thing has a few pogo pins on top of it. So it doubles as a charging block for it. You just put the controller on top of it, just literally anywhere near it, it'll snap into place and the pogo pins will go right in and start charging because it's also magnetic. And then while it's charging or while you pull it off, it'll support up to four controllers per the per this puck kind of like the old xbox 360 adapter pc can support four on a single usb you're getting the same thing here they say and and with the with the with the steam machine though they've also built in a dedicated antenna just for this okay you get four just connect to the steam machine you turn on your controller right out of the box it should pair you can add three more press a button on the front of the machine pair them as well like like you would on a console.

6:45You want to add four more? Well, there's a puck in the box. Plug the puck in. There's four more controllers. So you get two pucks, basically. One's built in, and then there's the other one. That's cool. Effectively, yeah. They see you putting the second one behind your couch, so you can just plop your controller over there for charging, pop it off and start playing, and you can just connect that one in the back to any power supply that does USB. It doesn't need to be plugged directly into the Steam machine. And otherwise, it's similar to the Steam Deck and that it's compatible with all the games that you would play on SteamOS, right?

7:17Did you get to play with it much? I wish I'd spent more. I was asking them so, so many questions that I probably only spent, you know, 10, 15 minutes on the Steam machine itself. But while I was there, I did do some benchmarking. I did get to actually run a benchmark of Cyberpunk 2077, the same bench at some of the same settings I run on Steam Deck and other handhelds. uh it's looking at i was looking at around 65 fps average on medium settings with basic ray tracing i'm going to get into the nitty-gritty just for just for a second here um and and that was running at a 1080p upscaled with amd's fsr 3.0 upscaling technology to 4k when i'm about nine feet away from it that looks pretty good if you get closer you can see this is not the highest quality image you can possibly get from a gaming PC.

8:08It's somewhere in that console region. So the final question that everybody has had, which is when can I get this? And they're not saying, do you have any hints? Do you have any inklings? All we've got, all we've got is early 2026 and that it should be affordable. It should be a good value for the price. It should be comparable to what you'd pay for a PC with this performance that you build yourself from parts. But that could mean a lot of things. It could mean$800. It could mean$1 ,000. It could mean$1 ,200. It could mean$1 ,400. Somewhere in that range, though, if they want to make a statement, they're going to put this at PS5 Pro pricing and say, our PC console is as powerful or more powerful than that PlayStation console for the same or maybe$50 more.

9:00And it's also a whole PC in addition to that. if they want to make a profit though, or, you know, and not sell it at cost, they might have to make it higher than that. We've seen bare bones systems in the past with similar chips cost a thousand dollars. And then you even still need to bring your own OS, your own storage, your own controller memory on top of that. So could be - Gotcha. Well, Sean, thanks for sharing the details with us. Really appreciate it. Obviously, go read Sean's writeup at theverge.com. He's got a whole story about the journey up to Washington to see it and all the details if you want to dig into them.

9:40Anything else that people should look out for? Well, they've also got the Steam frame. It's a new VR headset, but it doesn't just do VR. It has an ARM chip inside, and they figured out a way to get Windows games play on the ARM chip, too. So it's kind of like a Steam Deck for your face. Steam Deck for your face. Sounds wonderful. Sean, thank you so much, man. I appreciate it. Thanks for having me. Yeah, that Steam Deck for Your Face runs SteamOS on a Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 chip. So it can do some magic where games run directly on the ARM chip. They do have Proton running on it as well. So they have a lot of opportunities there.

10:21And you can stream a game from your PC wirelessly to the headset. You don't have to tether it. It can play any game from your Steam library, whether it's VR or not. and has a modular design. So that makes it easier if you want to do mods or do updates to it later. You pop out that core module and it has the processor, the optics, and the cameras all in there. Speaking of those optics, 2160 by 2160 LCD screens per eye, a pancake lens, which reduces the size of the optics and increases the sharpness edge to edge. One really interesting bit is that it can not only run Windows games, it can run Android APKs.

10:59Android APKs are what Meta uses on the Quest. So Android games may now be published to Steam as part of this modification. No price or release date on Steam Frame, though Valve has stopped making its index VR headset. So they're serious about this being the replacement. I honestly love it. I mean, I think I'm going to get in line for both the Steam Machine and the Steam Frame. The Steam Frame actually is super compelling just because I know, especially in like kind of these days, the like glass displays, my husband has them where basically the sun kind of glass, the sunglasses form factor, but there's actually a display.

11:37He uses that because sometimes, you know, Steam Deck was holding them for long periods of time, cause them neck strain. So him and I presume other folks are kind of going with the glasses display route, especially for like even travel. So being able to just actually cut out the Steam Deck and I literally said the same thing when I saw, I was like, wait, is this a Steam deck on your face? I love that so much. And I kind of like all the things that both the Steam machine and the Steam frame are touching. It really feels like Steam has kind of taken a survey of what's going on. And of course, as Sean mentioned, they've been trying to make the Steam machine happen for a decade now.

12:17But it somehow feels like they've taken a survey of the gaming landscape and really addressed or found niches where they could really make a gamer's experience sing, especially if you're someone who is like a quote unquote serious gamer that kind of plays across different form factors. And again, like taking into account, like, you know, obviously like the VR slash eye display. I forgot what, I don't remember what they're called, but and really kind of synthesizing all those things. Their page on it has just like this like nice little page of like all the new stuff coming. And I'm just unbelievably, excited.

12:53Yeah. I mean, they've learned from the mistakes. Yeah. They made those mistakes 10, 15 years ago so that they could then create this. Now we still need to see what the price are, still need to get them in people's hands. But yeah, this looks a lot more promising. I agree. Yeah. Well, take my money, Bill. All right. Well, DTNS is made possible by you, the listener. We want to thank Mike Cortez, Erwin Sturr, and Ken Hayes. Thank you.

13:24There is more we need to know today. Let's get to the briefs. Google added some shopping features to its AI mode in Google search. An example prompt, I need a light sweater for my trip to Atlanta. It has to be timeless and wearable with jeans and dresses. That takes into account Atlanta weather and recommends sweaters without you having to say so. Results will include images, price, reviews, and availability. It can also make comparison charts for you. If you want to shop in the Gemini app in the US, you can get product listings, comparison charts, multiple prices, and of course, links to buy.

13:57And Google Search can now call a physical store for you and confirm price and availability in store. If you search for stores near me, you will see a let Google call button when that option is available. The agent will call multiple stores and summarize the results in email or text and include what it knows about inventories from Google's shopping graph. Interestingly, Gemini helps create the words, but Duplex handles making the call and talking to stores. And finally, in search, Google's agent can now track prices. And when an item hits your price range, you get a notification with the option to buy for me.

14:37On the confirmation page, you set the payment method using Google Pay address and shipping preferences, and the agent buys it. This works with select stores, including Chewy, Wayfair, Quince and some on Shopify. Also note that some AI mode results will be sponsored and marked as such. Gemini results will not have ads. Yeah. So that, that Google agent thing is pretty cool because you can already do the notification of like, when it falls into this price range, let me know. But now it could be like, Hey, it fell in the price range. You want me to get it for you? I'm not sure if I trust it to do it properly yet.

15:10But it's interesting to see that that is an option. The duplex thing though is one symbol of something I've been wanting to see, which is LLMs are great, but they're not great at everything. There are other models out there. Duplex is an example of that. Use the LLM to create the prompt and figure out which stores are the right ones to call. Then let duplex handle the calling. I think that's, we should see more of that where models are integrated and working together. Yeah, I think that makes a lot more sense. And it is kind of, I think some of the best experiences is mixing purpose with model.

15:44And as a millennial, oh my gosh, if I had to call even less, I'd be so happy. This is wonderful. Say less to the people you want to shop with. Yeah, this is great. And with the physical store, I guess the idea is you still go into the store to pick it up once it's confirmed. But you know, the idea that you could also just say, you know what, actually look online and buy it for me is also part of this whole system. So I also see a little bit of a light towards what Google's future revenue model is, where it's taking a cut of these kinds of things, especially the sponsorship stuff you talked about.

16:22So yeah, I think these are all pretty, unless you find AI and LLMs controversial to begin with, I don't think there's anything additionally controversial in this, at least not yet. speaking of deep mind released a research preview for sima 2 that's spelled s-i-m-a it's a generalist agent that takes sima 1 improves it and then adds gemini's 2.5 flashlight model so again using multiple kinds of models to be able to understand and interact with its environment something that will be very useful in robotics at some point sima 1 was trained on video games you may have heard about it before. It could follow instructions.

17:06You could tell it what to do in the video game and it would do it. But it had a 31 % success rate at complex tasks compared to a 71 % success rate for humans at the same tasks. SEMA 2 was trained on footage of humans playing eight commercial video games. They included No Man's Sky, Goat Simulator 3, and three virtual worlds created by Google itself. That training was then integrated with Gemini LLM. SEMA 2 can now complete complex tasks in previously unseen environments. So SEMA 1 had to have seen the game before. SEMA 2 could go into a totally new place and improve based on its experience. It can actually make mistakes and then realize, oh, that didn't work and not do it again.

17:52SEMA 2 is successful 65 % of the time at complex tasks. So still behind humans, but getting better. It gets confused at longer instructions. It can only remember its most recent instruction, but it can do things like identify and interact with objects that you tell it to. You can, one example they gave was go to the tomato colored house. And it was able to understand like, oh, tomatoes are usually red. I'm going to go to the red house. You can even give it emojis. like an axe and a tree, and it'll go into the game and chop down a tree. There's no timeline on when DeepMind is going to implement SEMA 2 in an actual physical robot, but they do say that's the goal.

18:34I can't get over the fact that they use Goat Simulator 3 to train it, but that makes so much sense. No Man's Sky to Goat Simulator 3 is a broad spectrum of gaming experiences, so I'm just going to hold on to that run free forever in my head. Yeah, no, it's fantastic. And this is another of those signposts along the way where you want robots to be able to just do stuff. This is how you get there. Yeah, the learning and adaptation aspect for sure. Well, Microsoft showed off its set of two-story data centers in Atlanta to reporters on Wednesday. Microsoft is doubling its data center footprint over the next two years.

19:11And the site in Atlanta is one of its most important examples. It's a part of a new class of data center hubs called Fairwater. A new liquid cooling system reduces water use to the equivalent of 20 average U.S. households per year. Meanwhile, Microsoft CEO Satya Adela appeared on Dwarakish Patel's show and said it plans to use access to OpenAI's chip development with Broadcom to help improve Microsoft's in-house chips. He said, quote, as they innovate, even at the system level, we get access to all of it. We first want to instantiate what they build for them, but then we'll extend it, which means they get the chips and can install them in data centers, but also get the IP and then they can modify it themselves to make it better or better suit what Microsoft wants it to do.

19:58Yeah, this was a big charm offensive with the press after the OpenAI Microsoft agreement kind of got covered as, you know, Microsoft's days are numbered. I think Microsoft wanted to show like, no, we're still working with OpenAI. We're still working with them on a lot of stuff. We're also developing our own things. And we are actually building these data centers. This is not just money that's going to, you know, evaporate into the air. Here they are. Here's two of them in Atlanta. And so this was a lot of like social proof, honestly. All right. Finally, some quick headlines that are just good to know if you want to understand the news in the future.

20:37DJI just launched the NIO2 quadcopter in Canada, Japan, and the UK with LiDAR obstacle detection, better video, and longer battery life, as well as added gesture controls for 239 euro. Yeah, we won't be getting that in the U.S. anytime soon because they got a band. Uh, the Chosun Daily and Evan Blass, both reporting leaked details that the Samsung foldable phone will be a 6.5 inch on the cover, 10 inch on the inner screen phone called the Galaxy Z trifold. I mean, I could have guessed that, but that's interesting. Uh, Chosun also added, uh, that it will come out December 5th for around$3 ,000.

21:16So I wonder if the quad fold will be$4 ,000 of that scale so appropriately. We'll wait and see. That makes sense. We'll get the trifold out first. All right. Well, OnePlus launched. It's$900, 6.8-inch OnePlus 15 that runs on Qualcomm's Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5 chip and has a 7 ,300 milliamp battery that can last two days on a charge. It's available in multiple countries, though delayed in the U.S. because of a backlog in certification by the FCC due to the U.S. government being shut down for the last month. Mm-hmm. The dev beta of macOS Tahoe 26.2 includes a feature called Edge Light, which can brighten up the edge of your screen so you can use it as a lighting source during video calls.

22:01The ultimate ring light. Really, yeah. Without having to buy a ring light. Well, Android Authority and may I note Android Faithful's Michelle Roman reports that Google posted that it is building an, quote, advanced flow in Android for users who, quote, have a higher risk tolerance and want the ability to download unverified apps. The company says it is designing this flow specifically to resist coercion to ensure that users aren't tricked into bypassing these safety checks while under pressure from scammers. Yeah. So you will be able to sideload. You're just going to have to get a bunch of annoying notifications is what it sounds like.

22:40During a report on strong third quarter earnings, Tencent's president said, one constraint of the cloud business growth is the availability of AI chips. NVIDIA. He didn't say NVIDIA. When AI chips are actually in short supply, we actually prioritize internal use as opposed to renting it out externally. meaning following what Xi Jinping, the president of China, wants them to do. The other way to say it, back to his words, if there is not an AI chip supply constraint, our cloud revenue should be growing more. And Tencent also reached an agreement to give Apple a 15 % cut of purchases made in many apps inside WeChat, an exception to Apple's usual take of 30%.

23:23That was a big deal because WeChat's huge. France has fully lifted the travel ban on Telegram CEO Pavel Durov and removed its requirement that the CEO regularly check in at the police station, but is not saying anything else about the investigation or whether he is implicated in it. open ai updated its models to include gpt 5.1 instant to be warmer and more conversational and gpt 5.1 thinking which should provide clearer responses with less time giving you more options yeah little little updates this would have been like top news years ago but now we're getting into the world where just you know point upgrades are are interesting but not not groundbreaking speaking.

24:06Spotify added something called audiobook recaps, which will catch you up on what you previously read if you kind of like left off a while ago, as long as you've spent at least 15 to 20 minutes listening. It me. I feel seen. Bloomberg sources say Tesla is developing support for Apple CarPlay, one of its most requested features. Tesla going the total opposite direction. All these other car makers are trying to get rid of Apple CarPlay and Tesla's like, you know what? We changed our mind. Maybe we'll do it. All right. Those are the essentials for today. Let's dive a little deeper. I will paleontologists teamed up with lichen and drones to find more dinos.

24:43Dr. Nikki explains. Dr. Nikki, welcome back. Hello. Happy to be here to talk about dinosaurs. Indeed. Who doesn't love talking about dinosaurs? Okay. So there was a paper published in Current Biology about using drones with some sensors to find dinosaur bones, which so far that it's like, oh yeah, no, I could see how that might work. I want to know more, but they also got help from lichen. What is that about? This is super fun because it's a combination of a lot of different things. So, uh, picture yourself, if you will, in the Canadian Badlands, this is in Alberta at Dinosaur Provincial Park.

25:21Uh, it's been known since like the 1920s that in this park, there's lots of big exposed dinosaur bones sitting kind of on the surface and there's a special type of lichen that grows on them um okay but until now we hadn't had the technology to to to do something with this information like everyone was like this would be cool but but you have to walk around and look for the lichen yeah kind of time consuming i'm time consuming it's difficult terrain so this research team kind of put A and B together and they use this property of these lichens that are bright orange, um, to pick up on these dinosaur bones.

26:00So the reason that these lichens only grow on these bones is that they're alkaline, they're calcium rich and they're porous. So it gives the lichen something to like hold on to and everything around the bones is barren of lichen. So it makes them really pop out. Um, and it makes discovering different dinosaur bones a lot easier. So is it as simple as the drones fly around and the camera sensor goes there's some orange or or is it as i expected slightly more complicated it's only slightly more complicated than that but it and it's because of a really cool property of lichen um which is that they have a very specific spectral property um so like they're the type of uh light wavelength that they reflect is specific to lichen which is really fun.

26:46I didn't know that before today. Yeah. No kidding. Um, so the drones have a specialized sensor that detects the lights, wavelength and amplitude, and this is called spectroradiometers. Um, and they'll fly above, you know, the Badlands and capture images at a pretty high resolution, 2.5 centimeters per pixel. And then, um, trying to pick up on this specific wavelength. So like you can get the full wavelength of light on these pictures from this, uh, spectroradiometer. and then if you see dips in the specific wavelength of the lichens you can tell that they're there okay and then then that gives you their location and then you can get to them faster right yeah and specifically they have lower reflectance in the blue wavelengths around four to five hundred nanometers and they're higher in infrared wavelengths so around eight to fourteen hundred nanometers um and so if you like attenuate your detector to that you can pick up on them and then say where these blobs are.

27:42And they did test just like normal bones without lichen, the ground, and then like lichen bones against, you know, and it stood out like crazy compared to anything else. So it was very fine-tuned. It is fortuitous that lichen only like to grow on the dinosaur bones we're looking for in the first place. And then extra fortuitous that they reflect in that manner that makes it a little easier for the sensor to pick them up. That's great. That's amazing. Yeah. And people had used this before to determine caribou habitat. Because if you think about what, you know, the, obviously this only works in a very specific area where the ground is covered in lichen and caribou eat lichen.

28:21And so for not orange colored lichen, they also use like a similar technique. So they took that and then added it to the kind of bone problem they had here. Gotcha. Gotcha. So it's taking something that has been used for identification and specifically saying, okay, well, let's do it for this kind of identification. Yeah. Yeah. What kinds of dinosaurs do you find? Of course. So the lichen was the most obvious on large leg bones from dinosaurs from the late Cretaceous. This makes sense. Large bones are easier to see from drone height, about 30 meters up in the air. and so dinosaurs like Ornistians so hadrosaurs and Ceratopsidae so these are like duck-billed dinos and Triceratops-ish looking dinos and that makes sense they're big they got really dense bones and it's a lot of surface area for the lichen to grow on bonus tech that they added into here you let me call almost everything tech so I'm adding that I mean it is they did DNA analysis on the lichen because they specifically wanted to tell what kind of species and how many.

29:27So there's two main species and we don't actually know how long it takes for them to colonize bone because as you may have heard, lichen grows very, very, very slowly. But now that they have images, they can go back and look how much it grew in the next a hundred years. Yeah. So we get a little bonus lichen knowledge out of this, not just the dino knowledge. And we get the drone application to the caribou identification. We're stacking tech here. I love that, right? I love when we're like, oh, we could take that if we had this other thing, then we can do that with it. And then we get the side benefit of this.

30:00What other kind of future applications could this lead to? So first of all, this is really helpful in remote locations like the Badlands with difficult terrain. You could imagine, again, the lichen specifically grows in this one area, and that's a thing, but walking around is a lot more annoying than doing this by drone. and not all fossils grow lichen across the world, but still there may be other instances where we could do this. And the study says that this would be pretty doable to expand to aircraft surveillance and satellites. So you could get even way much bigger surface area that you could cover with this and then like spot all of these dinos.

30:39And the more dinos pieces we have, the more we know, because as you know, for like each dino skeleton, we may have like one leg and like one head and that's all we know from that one entire species. So the more we find, the better we are for paleontology. If I'm not mistaken, that was the classic thing of realizing that dinosaurs had feathers was starting to put together enough bones to be like, wait a minute. Yeah. And just like specific preservation, you know, like amber and then the ones that are like sandwich and like the slate stuff and just finding more stuff, really. Yeah. This is fantastic.

31:11I love this one. Dr. Nikki, thanks for bringing it to us. If folks want to follow more of what you do, where should they go? Yeah, they can find this and other DTNS topics at NicoleAckermans.com website. And my Blue Sky handle is also that. Fantastic. Thanks, Nicole. Drones to find bones when what's not to love? I love everything about this. And actually, lichen are pretty, lichen are, they are, it is pretty cool. You're liking the lichen? I'm liking the lichen very much. Yeah, who isn't? You know, the holidays are coming up. Do you need any gift ideas? Yeah, always, 100%. How about a DT &S pint glass, huh?

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32:27We end every episode of DTNS with some shared wisdom. Today, Derek shares his driverless car experience. Yeah, Derek was in San Francisco this past weekend and jumped in a Waymo for the first time. He says, it quickly became my taxi of choice, not just for comfort and privacy, but actually for the safety. If anything, a Waymo seemed safer than a standard cab or rideshare. No driver texting or distracted on their phone while driving, even if it's just to check the map. More so, I ran into several bad human drivers while riding in the Waymo, including a car that made a sudden cut across lanes and a car that took a wrong turn.

33:05Given Waymo's always-on 360-degree detection, it was quick to react and adjust, whereas a human driver might be too late to notice it. It also handled cyclists, scooters, pedestrians, jaywalkers, and traffic with ease. The only thing I'm wondering, since it sticks to the legal speed limit, will it technically end up going slower than humans? Either way, can't wait for it to come to New York. Well, Derek, I do believe that, what is it? Smooth is fast and fast is smooth. So I assume that, you know, if we're avoiding all the terrible human drivers, which I complain about all the time by myself as a human driver, maybe you will be going faster because there are less incidents, but that's pretty awesome.

33:43Once we get enough Waymos and the like on the streets, maybe that will come to pass. I can see it. I love it. All right. Well, what are you thinking about? Are you liking the liking? Are you also taking the dive into driverless car experiences like Derek? Let us know, have some insight, share it with us at feedback at dailytechnewshow.com. Big thanks to Dr. Nikki, Sean Hollister, and Derek for contributing to today's show. Thank you for being along for Daily Tech News Show. You keep us in business. Become a patron now. It's your holiday gift to us. Patreon.com slash DTNS.

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