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2:47This is the Daily Tech News for Friday, May 22nd, 2026. We tell you what you need to know, giving the important context in all of it. and help each other understand. Today, the end of Destiny 2 is nigh. Sort of. We'll get to that. Yeah, we're going to talk all about that. I'm Jason Howell. I'm Jen Cutter. Let's start with what you need to know with the big story.

3:13What is nigh? Well, we're going to tell you. Nigh is such a word that I just never use, but for whatever reason, I decided to write it in there today. So there you go. Bungie announced it will ship the final content update for Destiny 2 on June 9th. Maybe that's what I meant. Destiny 2 is 9, June 9th. After months of fan speculation driven by falling player numbers, delays, the release of a new Bungie shooter you may have heard of, Marathon, Bungie stressed that Destiny 2 will remain online, it will remain playable after active development ends. two years after the latest or the last major expansion, which is called The Final Shape.

3:55Bungie says it's time for the studio to, you know, move on for Destiny, quote, to live beyond Destiny 2. Hmm, that's intriguing, though it did stop short of confirming a sequel, only promised, you know, more details at a later date. So you got to wait for that. Fan reaction, been pretty sharp, been pretty negative from what I saw online, which is, I suppose, to be expected because it's, you know, like end of an era sort of thing and change is hard. But many see this as mismanagement of Sony's$3.6 billion Bungie deal and a risky bet. And this is one thing I definitely want to talk to you about, a risky bet on Marathon.

4:38While a very formative live service game, you know, Destiny 2 is basically left in its maintenance mode at this point. So first of all, let's start with Destiny 2. I am not a Destiny player, I'm aware, but it sounds like maybe you are. Tell me a little bit about how this news lands for you. Well, r slash were, but I kind of want to start with Destiny 1. Started in 2014, also still playable, no content updates or anything. But you can literally log into Destiny 1 if you bought that. And if you want to play the whole thing again, you can. if you wanted to just run around with your character you can it's there it's functional it's great i am hoping that destiny 2 gets that kind of long life but i find that's slightly unlikely uh but for destiny 2 yeah i played not quite from launch but i played through to the season of the vex when they used to do like seasons and then i got so annoyed about how the uh the main content kind of shifted from pve for cooperative stuff to a lot of pvp slash pve and You get tired of competing with everybody else on the internet who only plays one game.

5:50So a lot of players like me who were casuals who had really easy paths for advancement and fun and casual, and you could just turn your brain off and go for it, those things basically disappeared or became worthless. So people like me left. We stopped spending money on the game. And the other thing, Destiny fans are mad about a lot of things all of the time. So like you will see a ton of negativity online because people who are happy are kind of just playing the game, right? Totally. Yeah. The people who are playing continue to play. You know, they're not the ones that, you know, a company like Bungie is trying to is basing the success of this game on.

6:28When you've got a game like this, you've got a property like this. you want things to be looking good slash improving more players not less which kind of sounds like the trajectory that you you know you were you were kind of part of that so you're part of the problem jen but i mean at the end of the day players are captivated until they're not until the next thing comes along in this case bungie at least according to bungie uh and their catalog marathon is that next thing have you played marathon are you like are you integrated in that or like what do you think well okay so marathon's a lot of almost entirely pvp which they're starting to add or talking about adding pve2 to get players like me into it but i am very hesitant to spend money on bungee games because if you started playing destiny 2 early all the content at launch and in the first two expansions don't exist anymore they took it out i paid for this stuff it's gone you can't play it anymore yeah you can't go back and do that they removed uh planets they removed my favorite planet which they put back again later in a different form but you know yeah everybody was real mad because we had spent uh bright dust which was a like paid currency uh to build up this huge ship which was great for like target practice and lore uh and then they took it away and we never got that bright dust back so people like me kind of hesitant to give bungee money again which could be another reason that that marathon uh they had a really big server a test that was open to everybody for free as a way to get people back and some of my friends did go back they really do like marathon oh okay and and are they like cut from the same cloth for the most part destiny to marathon same i mean well the first thing they warned me was yes the place i was like if you go in and try to play it like destiny you are going to eat it like immediately and constantly yeah but but then nonetheless marathon is shedding its players what do you think that's all about why why is that dropping so quickly too like this thing just you know pretty much came out i think people ran into the same reason that i stopped playing destiny 2 is when you're competing against people where that is their only game you're not going to win unless you're god tier in which case you're doing fine so a couple of my friends who were god tier and gambit are doing great in marathon and some people there's a lot of communication in the game and some people just don't like having to talk to strangers fair enough so that that's because again sometimes for your game you just want to relax yeah yeah totally and and i mean is this what you're describing here is this kind of um impacting all games of this type for the most part like are we kind of at the point to where all of these games come out whatever property it is there's going to be some subset of players that really connect with it on a deep level or they just commit to it on a deep level to become god tier like you say and then anyone else that wants to go in and just be casual gamer or whatever you're constantly faced with the fact that there are just these epic players that make it less fun is this kind of where we're at with this style of online game at this point so i as a not good pvp player actually used to destiny 2 pvp quite constantly because you could get rewards for showing up and being cannon fodder.

9:48So I went in and I played pacifist PvP. So Destiny 2 has amazing emotes, like just fantastic things. So I would go in and I would set up like, you know, a card table and other like cooperative remotes. And like sometimes I would just go and somebody would rocket launch me and it'd still be really funny. And sometimes at the end of the match when there's a clear winner, everybody just met me in the middle and we just emoted at each other for the last couple of minutes. And I still got rewards for that, for, you know, showing up and trying to contribute and stuff. And then when they took away that progression option for PvP things and rewards, a lot of the top tier PvPers were mad that PvP got a lot harder because people like me stopped showing up.

10:29so yeah so if marathon does make uh progression possible for people who are not necessarily good uh i think a lot of players will show up because bungee movement and bungee gun feel unparalleled like absolutely the best like i like the wolfenstein games i like other shooters still not the same and i miss my crayon eating titan which was the the affectionate term for titan players who just like running around body checking people do you have faith for a destiny three if there is one like i'm concerned about the staff losses the the staff losses since sony took over uh you can find a lot of great uh dev diaries and dev histories and dev feelings uh from people who started on destiny in the beginning and some people who joined at the end so there's some great memories of people sharing how this worked and also their frustrations for how this worked when sony took over and a lot of things were quote unquote streamlined which really meant bare bones and one guy's doing six jobs so marathon how much staff will they take it didn't sound like a lot of destiny 2 people got the offers to move over yeah yeah interesting cool i learned i learned something about Destiny.

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15:28There's plenty more we need to know today, so let's get to the briefs. Meta quietly launched Forum, a dedicated app for Facebook groups that seems to share a lot with Reddit and how it looks and behaves. The iOS app calls itself a dedicated space built for deeper discussions, real answers, and the communities you care about. Users can log in with their Facebook account and are presented with feed updates from groups they're already in and can search and join new groups based on their own interests as well. While users can use anonymized usernames, administrators will be able to identify their real identities.

16:05The main feed pulls conversations from groups they belong to while also recommending new groups because, of course, they do. Activity stays synced between this app and the main Facebook app. A feature called Ask can surface responses from across different groups to answer questions without manual search. And there's also an AI admin assistant that can help moderators manage their communities. Because also, of course, there is. Of course, of course. I mean, Facebook, anytime, I can't help it at this point. And I've been in the tech news thing long enough and Facebook's been around long enough that anytime I see Facebook launched a new exploratory app, I just immediately think, OK, how long is this going to be around before it dies?

16:45Because they've done this so many times. You remember Poke, Rooms. I mean, I could list off a number of them that start and then you promptly forget about them. And usually around like nine months to a year later, you see the little quiet news report that's like Facebook has removed blah, blah, blah app from the app store. So I don't know. There's a part of me that's kind of like, okay, I don't know how much an app like this needs to exist if this functionality already exists inside of the Facebook app. But I'm not surprised that they keep returning to the well time and again. If this was 10 years ago, this would have been my favorite thing.

17:28Because like backward, like reviewing games was was my my main thing. There were journalist groups because you needed to talk to other journalists who also had early access or otherwise you were never able to find anybody multiplayer, which you kind of really wanted to test for. be real. So that would have been great. Right now I'm trying to think like, okay, would I use this? Because I keep the Facebook app on a separate phone because I don't want it on my real phone. And I had to reactivate it last year because one of my teams only communicates through Facebook for like schedules and mind changes and stuff.

18:01So now I'm thinking like, okay, I would use this for that because I don't really interact with the rest of Facebook, but I do integrate with this community. So it's like, okay, maybe this is worth trying for the nine months or whatever that it ends up existing. Yeah. Like it, yeah, that's a really good point. Is this an app for people that don't want to be on Facebook, but see the value in the groups? Because a lot of people do, they're like, man, I wouldn't be on Facebook except that, you know, for some people that's, except that all my friends, my, you know, friends back home are there and this is how I keep up to date on what they're doing.

18:34I've, I've definitely talked to people that are like, I hate Facebook, But Facebook groups, you know, there's one group that I belong to. It's, you know, critical to me and what I do or my passion or whatever. And so I need to. Maybe that's what this app aims to accomplish. You don't have to be on the main blue app, but have this one. It keeps you still part of the mix. Yeah. Big respect to knitting groups. Knitting groups are hardcore and always in there. And like that keeps some people on Facebook just because they want to talk to that community and have those relationships built out over so many years.

19:06So we'll see how this goes. This is, I'm going to play with it. We're going to find out. I think maybe you figured it out. I like it. We'll see. Another thing I like, the Motorola Razr 2026 family, officially on sale as of yesterday. Many reviews are out. One such review, CNET's David Lum says that while the flip phone version, the Razr 2026, is still one of the most affordable clamshell foldables in the U.S.,$800. It did get that$100 price hike, which he says is a little hard to justify on specs alone. He still gave it a very positive review. He acknowledged that the tradeoffs that buyers should know about, and this is one that carries over with Motorola across most of its phones, it seems.

19:55Limited update commitment of three years OS, five years security. You know, other foldables and clamshells like these from companies like Samsung are offering seven-year support. You're paying a little bit more than that, but, you know, that longer-term support is important to a lot of people. So that's notable. Motorola is sweetening the higher price of the phone with bundled Moto Buds 2 Plus and apparently up to$200 trade-in credit right now. So if you're thinking about getting one, definitely know about that. But in essence, consider the Moto Razor 2026 a strong entry-level clamshell option to some of the more expensive comparables.

20:36And then there's the Moto Razor Fold. Tom's Guide put the battery to the test, said it broke its record entirely for book-style foldables, 14 hours, 44 minutes on its standardized web surfing test using the inside main display when you unfold it. John Velasco says the 6000 milliamp hour battery is a significant differentiator from the Z Fold 7, from the Pixel 10 Pro Fold. So if you're thinking book style foldable and you're thinking battery requirement, like I got to get excellent battery with this, this might be the way to go. Those are definitely some strengths of Motorola these days. And, you know, in some of their devices, they're one of the first U.S.

21:20manufacturers to be leaning into silicon carbon battery technology. and so I think that's really notable and I man I love silicon carbon in the devices that I've used I have the the oneplus watch three here and it's you know days worth of battery as a result of that so there you go are you enticed or you're you're probably iphone I'm guessing I am iphone and I love my uh apple watch but I have been asked about foldables uh a lot more than I have in the past because a lot of people are finally at the point where they have to replace their phones. And impressive to me is the group that wants the foldables more than I ever expected from people who previously never really cared.

22:03They just wanted a phone. Women. So it's kind of breaking through. It's breaking through because you can put it in pockets that women have available. Yeah, especially the clamshell, right? Yeah, the clamshell is the one they like because also it's kind of retro and they dig the retro feel. Yeah, I have never previously had to answer so many questions on foldables from this friend group. And I'm kind of excited because I want them to buy it so I can see it. Yeah, it is interesting, right? Like in the Android world, which is where I live 100 % of my time, you know, the foldable thing has been a story for the last seven, eight years, if I had to guess off the top of my head, something along those lines.

22:43And so it doesn't feel necessarily fresh and new. But this is kind of where what happens often. And I think part of the reason that it's more in the minds of some of the people in your life, I'm guessing, that may not have paid attention is because a company like Apple comes along and we start to hear more and more rumors that Apple's working on its own foldables. And that kind of opens the door to, you know, it breaks it out of the Android only, oh, that's the nerdy little ecosystem over there that I've never had a phone on. And it brings it more into the mainstream awareness. And then it becomes like, oh, well, actually, that would be kind of cool.

23:21Yeah, well, because also for the press coverage, you're no longer getting the stream of, here's the terrible thing that happened to my foldable when I folded it. So now that they've worked out those kinks, it makes it easier for people to go like, okay, I am not buying a disaster. Totally. Yeah. Well, there you go. Aura has confidentially filed paperwork with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission to prepare for an IPO, according to the Finnish smart ring company. Aura recently reported 5.5 million rings sold of last September, up from 2.5 million the year before. The company had also doubled its valuation in one year, raising$875 million last October at an$11 billion valuation.

24:09Aura has not disclosed the number of shares, price range, or specific timeline for the offering. So it's very fresh. Very fresh. Very confidential, as they say, even though they're announcing it. I don't know enough about the market workings of this stuff. Yeah, I haven't been into a smart ring. How they announced their confidential IPO. Like, oh, those two things don't seem to... There's an explanation, I know, and I just don't understand it. But I mean, Aura as a company, as a maker of wearables, definitely a category leader when you're talking about smart rings. And I don't know. I've never had an Aura ring.

24:46Have you ever used them? Well, because I use stuff for sports, like I do have a lot of friends, like even goalies who play in their wedding rings and their diamonds and stuff. And I'm like, really? Wow. Wouldn't that hurt? Yeah. Because even at the rep level, when I'm playing at like senior double B, I'm just thinking like, how are you putting those rings in that glove? And also, doesn't it like destroy your glove? So people do do sports in rings. I am not one of them. I do know that a lot of ring patent lawsuits were settled recently. So I think we're going to see an uptick on the number of rings available now that the rules are clearer on the playing field.

25:23Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. And for whatever it's worth to you, dear listener or viewer, lots of celebrity endorsements for Aura. You know, Gwyneth Paltrow, Mark Zuckerberg. You can wear the ring that Mark Zuckerberg enjoys ringing. See? See, I miss this news. This is critical update. I'm just telling you, you should be really excited about this. Now, I mean, Aura has a great reputation and, you know, Aura having an IPO right now. Maybe it's not SpaceX level. Maybe it's not OpenAI level. But notable nonetheless, there's some serious IPO action happening right now. And I guess Aura is in the mix, too.

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28:04All right, we got a bunch of headlines for you that are good to know and make you look smarter in the future. We talked yesterday about some Waymo shutdowns, and guess what? There's more. Waymo suspended freeway operations in San Francisco, Los Angeles, Phoenix, and Miami to address software issues after its robotaxis struggled navigating through construction zones. I just went to Google I.O. on Tuesday and spent three and a half hours driving from Petaluma to Mountain View, and I'd passed at least five Waymos on the freeway. I'm happy nothing happened. It's highly unlikely that anything would have, but still, that's what came to mind when I saw this news.

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29:25So it's back to manual inventory tracking, which as somebody who previously worked retail and inventory tracking, there's pros and cons. But you've got to be right. That's the whole point of inventory. At the end of the day, it's got to be right. Very, very good. U.S. and Canadian authorities arrested 23-year-old Canadian Jacob Butler, a.k.a. Dork, accusing him of running the Kim Wolf DDoS for Hire botnet, which launched attacks hitting nearly 30 terabits per second, at least at the time, the largest DDoS attack known publicly. And thanks to SAJewers in the subreddit for letting us know about how Canada's broadcast regulator is making a big change to the Online Streaming Act, requiring major streamers like Netflix, Apple, Amazon and Spotify to contribute 15 % of their Canadian revenue to support Canadian and Indigenous content, which is up from a previous 5%.

30:19The move could generate around$2 billion and is being challenged by the Motion Picture Association in Canadian federal court. And while I usually love the CRTC, I'm a big fan of CanCon. This is kind of extreme. I am not confident that they will prevail in the lawsuit, even though they're making tons of statements about how confident they are. They will prevail in the lawsuit. And I'm hoping this doesn't result in the streamers pulling out because Canadian population isn't high. And yes, Canadian revenues are limited and CRTC is only trying to take from that pool. But we're going to find out. I am paying very close attention to that court case.

31:01Interesting. Well, I'm sure we'll hear more about it and talk about more on this show. Lenovo posted its strongest year ever in its history. Revenue up 20 % fiscal year 2025, driven by strong growth in PCs. Yes, AI-focused infrastructure, something AI-related, and services. And finally, thanks to TechZedExplore in the subreddit for this one, ByteDance Open Source Lance, a compact 3 billion parameter multimodal model that brings image and video generation, editing, and visual reasoning into a single system, while requiring around 40 gigs of GPU VRAM to get the most out of it. A solid choice for researchers and developers and not so much for casual users.

31:46Yeah, this isn't just like, oh, I think I'm going to just install this 3 billion RAM. I wish I had that lying around. Yeah, I know, right? We end every episode of DTNS with some shared perspectives. Jeff has a really interesting way a data center was set up in Switzerland. So Jeff says Supercomputing Center, CSCS, back more than 10 years ago now, built a new data center for an incoming supercomputer and explicitly built it to both use and return water from the nearby mountain in Lugano. My memory from talking to the staff at the time, this is apparently a very deep lake, so it had limited circulation and the return of the water to the lake, slightly warmer than it had left, had a net positive impact on the ecology of the lake.

32:33The cold water at the depths of the lake also reduced the energy cost of running the cooling system, plus there's some references to industrial work that can use the heated wastewater for other purposes. I did some digging and I found the write-up linked below, which we will share, about this project and the steps it had to take to both make sure the lake water was safe for the data center and that the wastewater was safe for the lake. This is a specific example of how, with proper thought, data centers can be designed to be at least neutral, if not positive, to the surrounding area. Yeah. Interesting that you sent that along, Jeff.

33:11I know this relates to, I think there was a story in yesterday's show about rising heat. Is it in the Phoenix area or something? Yeah, there was a study by the university there about here's how this is working right now. Right. Okay. So we've got a study on both sides, one that definitely adds some potentially dangerous environmental impacts. Four degrees is nothing to sneeze at. and then this on the other side. I'm sure we'll see a lot more of this. Yeah, because 4 degrees was the peak and the Open Compute Project mentioned like, hey, it is possible to plan around this and make it beneficial, just like this example that Jeff gave us from Switzerland, which was awesome.

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