The FCC bans new foreign made routers in the US - DTNS 5232

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3:21either way we're gonna find out in the in the near future and uh motang noted this one in our subreddit. So Moteng, thank you for that. U.S. Federal Communications Commission updated its covered list on Monday to include routers, and this is the quote, routers produced in a foreign country except routers which have been granted a conditional approval by DOW or DHS. The FCC says that manufacturers can request an exemption if they can demonstrate that their routers, quote, do not pose unacceptable risks. Guidance for that application requires that the company detail what companies make the routers for them, or rather, which companies make the routers for them, why that supply chain is not a risk, and why those routers could not be made in the U.S.

4:11They must also show a plan, quote, to establish or expand manufacturing in the United States for the router for which the applicant is seeking conditional approval, end quote. Yeah, so this is mostly about we want to make sure that nobody we're really concerned with is involved in the making of your router and nudge you to start making those routers domestically. Items in the covered list will not receive FCC authorization. So this is a bit of a subtle point, but I think it's worth understanding that this is not an import ban. What it is saying is we are just not going to give you a certification.

4:50We're not going to approve you. Usually the FCC just looks at it and like, oh, is it too powerful? Is it going to cause interference? No, it meets the standards. Great. We'll authorize it. They're saying we're just not even going to look at it if it is on this covered list. And you have to get FCC authorization in order to be approved to import to the US. So the FCC saying this is tantamount to saying you can't import, but it's worth understanding. The addition does not apply to existing routers in the country. So you can still use your router if it is on this covered list. If the company that made it was on this covered list, you can still buy routers that were already imported.

5:29If something's on the shelf at Best Buy or Target or whatever, you can buy it. And probably most overlooked, it does not, and I quote, prevent retailers from continuing to sell, import, or market router models approved previously through the FCC's equipment authorization process. So currently approved models can be imported. You can bring those in so you can continue to restock the shelves. This only applies to new models, which kind of makes sense if you think about what I just explained. The ones that already got authorized are authorized. The FCC is saying we're not going authorized a new model if you're on this covered list.

6:10And the covered list is anything that is designed or made overseas, which is practically all the routers at this point. Now, obviously, they can apply for that exemption you were talking about, Jason. And I think that's probably where our discussion will go is how fast that happens, how many companies get that. The government made this addition to the covered list because, quote, foreign produced routers introduce a supply chain vulnerability that could disrupt the U.S. economy, critical infrastructure, and national defense, and pose a severe cybersecurity risk that could be leveraged to immediately and severely disrupt U.S.

6:47critical infrastructure and directly harm U.S. persons. They're basically talking about the fact that your router is a vector for malware. An improperly configured router, an improperly patched router is a target for malware. And the FCC cited the Volt, Flax, and Salt Typhoon cyber attacks, which are valid points. Those used compromised routers. A spokesperson from TP-Link, which everybody thinks this is most pointedly at, said, TP-Link is confident in the security of our supply chain, and we welcome this evaluation of the entire industry. I think TP-Link is happy that it wasn't just pointed at them, It's pointed at the entire industry.

7:29TP-Link makes all their stuff in China. They are headquartered in Irvine, California, though. But that's not going to get them away from this rule. Netgear is the only other statement I saw. Netgear said, we commend the administration and the FCC for their action toward a safer digital future for Americans. That makes me think Netgear is very confident it's going to get an approval to get an exemption from this covered list. But Jason, that seems to be what this is about is nudging companies to say, we've got a plan for making stuff in the US, which is a priority for this administration. And then being able to decide who you like and who you don't to give an approval to so that you can keep out the ones where you're like, we actually, we don't know if we trust you.

8:17We don't, we want to keep out all the Timu routers, you know, all the stuff, which honestly, I am always skeptical of too, when I'm on Amazon or Timu or something. And I'm like, wait, who is this company? Why is the router so cheap? Like I would never buy a router like that. So the administration is basically taking a, uh, please show us if you have a baby, otherwise all the bath water is going out. Wow. I think I understand with that last, uh, little, um, yeah, I mean, I would agree, right? Not that I've ever gone on to Timo and said, I'm going to shop for a router today. But it's not top of my list that that would be the thing that I would do.

8:56And even on Amazon, you go on Amazon, you search for a router, you're going to get a bunch of routers from companies that you are familiar with. You're going to recognize the Netgear and the TP-Link and the others like that. And then you're probably going to get a bunch of names that are just gobbledygook company names that you've never heard of before. And they may have great products. They may not. I'm just not familiar. You just don't know. Yeah. But when it comes to something like all of my data passes through this thing day in, day out, that's a pretty large payload to just trust on anything.

9:29I know for me, I'm going to shop for the Motorola router. I'm going to shop for the ones that I recognize and the ones that I trust based on my own knowledge and my own comfort. They're all TP-Link and Netgear, by the way. I just did a search for router on Amazon. Okay. I have one called GI Link. I also have one from Asus. everything else is tp link or neck gear okay all right so then they're gonna have to get oh here's one u ee v ii okay that's kind of what i was talking about but they're gonna have to get their conditional approval and i mean clearly there are no guarantees in that but um but i but i would imagine you're right that this is probably less uh less focused on those and more on just the random stuff that you aren't quite sure.

10:15And I would applaud that. I think that we need to be working with brands and with hardware that we can trust. Maybe this gets us closer. I do wonder the long-term impacts of this as far as, like we alluded to in the intro, does this have any sort of influence over the cost of the hardware potentially over time? Or is this like an opportunity for the hardware cost to go up? I'm not really quite sure. I don't know how all that stuff works. It's where my mind jumped immediately. Yeah, yeah. I'm not a big fan of guilty until proven innocent, which is what this is. I'm not a big fan of the government making my decisions for me, saying you shouldn't be allowed to purchase a router unless we have decided if it's safe for you.

11:00Little nanny state going on here. So I don't like this policy. It's too broad. It puts the government in the position of picking winners and losers. And it reduces my choice. Now, granted, like we've said, it reduces my choice to buy something that would be bad, but that's my choice. For sure. I don't know if the justification is warranted. I understand the argument of like, yes, we could allow you to make that choice. But then what that ends up with is a massive botnet that allows a cyber attack on the US and allows these kinds of of Volt and Flax and Salt Typhoon situations. I don't know that.

11:40I don't know. When I say I don't know, I mean I don't know. I would like someone to evaluate how less likely Salt Typhoon is if a bunch of consumer-level routers are now no longer compromised. I suspect it's probably a little bit, but not a lot. So I don't know if this justifies that. It feels like using an excuse to do a thing that you really want to do, which is bring manufacturing, encourage manufacturing domestically. And I don't like that. So I don't like a lot about any of this and how it is done. I do like the idea of holding router makers accountable. And I think that would be a good way to do it.

12:20I'm not sure that this is the best way to do it. I'm not even sure if this does it, right? Because if Netgear gets an approval, which I expect they will be the first one to do, that doesn't mean all Netgear routers are free from compromises and that we won't see a Netgear router with a compromise. It doesn't mean you've now taught everyone to properly configure their routers and keep them updated, which is the biggest problem in this. I just don't think this achieves the aims, except if the aim is to bring some manufacturing back to the U.S. I think it might do a little bit of that for the consumer, for you and I.

12:51I honestly don't think this is going to end up changing anything. A lot of people are going to blow up and have a lot to say about it today. But everything on the shelves is going to stay on the shelves for a long time. New designs are going to get approved. That'll be the next thing we'll talk about on the show is like, oh, Netgear got approved. Oh, this company got approved. And so those new designs will come in without much delay. And so other than diminishing the choice in the domestic market, again, we already have diminished choice in the U.S. for phones and for UAVs, for drones. We will now get a diminished choice for routers.

13:26Yeah. And like you say, there is a lot of stock. There are a lot of these devices already out there, and they are untouched by this. So it could be a while before you see any sort of dramatic impact. Yeah, and they'll approve enough of these that I don't know if you'll ever see it, frankly. Other than maybe if you have a particular router brand you like that doesn't get an exemption, then you will eventually see those disappear. Well, DTNS is made possible by you, the listener. Big thanks to all of you out there, including A.B. Puppy, Dale Mulcahy and Matt Zaglin, among so many others. You all rock.

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16:46There's more we need to know today. Let's get to the briefs. Yeah, big thanks to TechZExplore for posting this one on our subreddit. Someone has posted a newer version of DarkSword on GitHub for anyone to download. Tom, you just said you want to make the decision on stuff. Here you go. Some malware for your iOS that you can decide whether to download or not. If you haven't been following this, DarkSword is a hacking tool that is capable of, you know, if you get someone to visit a website and can infect their phone with it, it can access passwords, photos, browser history, messages from WhatsApp and Telegram, even though they're end-to-end encrypted.

17:27They're on the end because they're on your phone. It was designed to infect a device and then erase itself after a few minutes. You might not even realize that it took things from your phone. It has been observed being used in the wild specifically to target people in Ukraine. The newer version that was posted on GitHub has all the same capabilities as the one we talked about last week, but has been made easier to implement. So all you got to do is paste some HTML and JavaScript and host it on your malicious web server and you're off to the races. However, it only works against phones running versions older than iOS 26.

18:01So if you have friends and family who don't keep their iPhones up to date, you want to make sure that they do that. And if they have a phone that can't run iOS 26 because it's older, make sure they get the update that Apple issued on March 11th to patch devices that cannot run iOS 26 or newer. This is not a vulnerability that should take advantage of you. There are hundreds of millions of phones out there that are behind on their patches, however, that it will be able to take advantage of. Make sure that you and your friends and loved ones are not one of those people. Yeah. I mean, honestly, reading this, I could have immediately in my head just been like, am I reading an Android article?

18:42Because we've seen so many of these threat moments with Android. And for better or for worse, I read them and I'm like, yeah, I know it has the potential to affect a lot of people. I have not once in the entire time that I've been following and covering Android, I haven't known someone who has faced the ill effects of something like this. But it's a good reminder to just be real clear on the fact that your devices are not foolproof. They're not bulletproof. It said lockdown mode helps in this regard, but no one wants to run their phone in perpetual lockdown mode cycle either, right? Not if you don't have to.

19:21Lockdown mode is really good for people who are in Ukraine, for example, or in some kind of particularly vulnerable area. Or if you're in a high-stakes profession, lockdown mode is good. But yeah, 99 % of the people listening to this show don't need to run in lockdown mode. Yeah. But you also don't need to do that if you upgrade to iOS 26 or put the patch on your older phone. Put the patch on. Then it's just a matter of convincing those people with the older OSs that haven't updated in a very long time to actually do the update. And I have known a lot of those people in my life. And it is really hard to convince them to do the update, even though they know it's probably a good thing to do.

20:02They're like, why? I'm not in Ukraine. Why would I need to? Yeah. Everything's going to change. I'm so used to my phone being the way it is. I don't want it to change. Well, Google is expanding Android Automotive OS into a foundational software layer for software-defined vehicles, sorry, SDV. The new Android Automotive OS SDV platform basically means Android will move beyond the dashboard screen and beyond things like just launching maps or music apps, that sort of stuff, and into the non-safety systems of the vehicle. That's going to get manufacturer platform control over much more of the vehicle infrastructure.

20:42So, you know, climate, connectivity, integrated voice experiences, maintenance reminders. There's a whole bunch of stuff that could fall into that bucket. Google also says that the OTA update capabilities of this means that vehicles can, you guessed it, get more features and more integrations over time. Google announced partners, including Renault Group and Qualcomm. And then just real quick, while we're on the topic of Android in the car, Android Auto, which is different from Android Automotive OS, by the way. It's like the kind of integration of the music and sync that you probably have noticed when you get into a car that supports Android Auto.

21:20Users are reporting wired and wireless connection issues with many Pixel and Samsung Galaxy devices. Some are saying that the phones simply can't connect. others are saying that they're losing connection shortly after launch and google hasn't actually acknowledged this bug yet but users are guessing that it has something to do with android 16's advanced protection mode which can actually block usb um while the phone is locked so that might be one indication or one clue but uh and and putting these stories together is important uh if for no other reason than it gives us a chance to talk about the difference between android automotive and Android Auto.

21:57It's so confusing because they're so similar. You might want to shorten one to the other, and then you would be confusing them. Android Auto is like CarPlay, right? It is just what's on your phone being reflected on the screen. And then as you said, Android Automotive has historically been built into the car. It's the car's operating system, but still for your information services. And this new software-defined vehicle is like more of the car's operating system. Yes. I have that right? Yes, you have that exactly right. So in essence, I guess it's a comparison to Apple's CarPlay Ultra maybe because I think CarPlay Ultra integrates HVAC, integrates radio controls and some of the other kind of deeper auto hooks.

22:43And that's kind of what you're getting now with Android Automotive OS in this update. Yeah. And I think Android automotive could incorporate those before, but they had to be run separately. Whereas SDV can now just like we can handle the whole thing. But you, the manufacturer, are still in control. Yeah. As we know, the huge thing that automotive manufacturers want to have. They want to have control. Absolutely. Yep. Well, thanks to R &B Nash in our subreddit for linking us to this next story that Apple is launching paid search ads inside Apple Maps in the US and Canada this summer. Businesses with an Apple Maps listing will be able to bid in an auction system to appear as a labeled sponsored result with a blue haloed pin.

23:26So we're not talking like a big old pop up ads. We're saying your business will appear more prominently. A single ad will appear next to user search results. Apple is promising that Apple IDs and personal data will remain decoupled from ad interactions in the app, or decoupled, depending on how you say it, and that data will not be shared or data will not be shared with third parties. This is all part of a new unified business suite offering. So you can get Connect, Essentials, and Manager in a single unified Apple business suite. That's what it's called. starting April 14th. That's my dog's birthday in 200 countries.

24:07That will bundle device management, employee directory, first party email. So if you're doing this enterprise level management, you're managing email on iPhones for people, you're doing calendar custom domains. You also get five gigs of free iCloud storage per user, paid storage in AppleCare plus tiers for businesses with heavier needs and the ability to put your ad in Apple Maps as well. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Google has been doing this in Google Maps for a while, sponsored results inside of Maps. Yeah. And I've actually noticed, I don't know how much you use Google Maps versus your Apple Maps. I use Google Maps almost exclusively.

24:45I use Waze for navigation sometimes. Otherwise, it's all Google Maps for me. Yeah. Yeah. Me too. I don't use Waze. I definitely use Google Maps for everything. And I've definitely been noticing - That's because you don't live in Los Angeles. That could be. I know. I've never understood the Waze thing. I know there's something there. It's like, oh, crap, the traffic's really bad. I need ways. I need the inconvenience of going through canyon roads because it will, in fact, save me time. Yeah. But in Google Maps, I've noticed a lot more lately these logos appearing instead of just the flat names.

25:17It's like, oh, there's the Chick-fil-A logo. And I wondered if that's kind of part of the sponsored thing. I don't know. Is that going to bug people if those start appearing in Apple Maps? I'm not even certain that's what you're going to see in Apple Maps. But that's what comes to mind as far as like what as a user you might see. I actually kind of like it because it's easy to connect to when I'm looking at a map to go, oh, yeah, I know what's there instead of having to like really dissect the results, you know? Yeah. I think everyone will hate this because it's ads. And people are going to immediately say, I don't want this.

25:48But I imagine it will bug fewer people than you might think. because the Google Maps thing, while occasionally I'm like, oh, that's a little prominent for in and out to be showing up as big as it is, it's not really bothersome the way like pop-up ads or things. It's not very much in your face. It's just like your eye goes to it a little faster than other things. And Apple's pretty good at these sorts of things. So I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt until I see otherwise. Yeah, indeed. Anthropic is upgrading its Cloud Code and Cloud Cowork agents. So they work directly using, like interacting with and using your computer like you do.

26:31So opening files, using a browser, running developer tools on a machine directly. Now, Cloud will first look for the proper connectors for apps like Google Calendar, like Slack, that sort of stuff. And if a connector exists, it's going to use that. If it can't find those connectors, it's going to, with your permission, control the computer the way you would. So, you know, like keyboard entry, mouse, and kind of simulating those controls to open the programs, to execute tasks. Anthropic says that Claude, like I mentioned, will ask for permission to perform certain tasks. Users can stop the execution at your own discretion.

27:12The warning screen, upon setting this up, I saw a screenshot of that. It does remind users that some of what the agent performs could result in actions that can be undone or that, sorry, that cannot be undone. So that's important. And that it could potentially open apps that haven't been explicitly approved. If you approve an app and that app in the interaction opens another app, that's something that could happen. So a few warnings there. But Anthropic also said it's implemented protections to minimize the risk of prompt injection inside of the experience. This is a research preview currently limited to paid Cloud Pro and Max users only running on macOS at least for now.

27:52So, you know, everybody's got the claw envy. And this is Anthropic bringing a little more claw into Cloud. Yeah, I mean, it's funny. OpenAI was the one getting all the attention for agents until OpenClaw came along. But this is going to continue to happen. And we're going to continue to see agentic style controls moving into more things. And I think if you're doing Claude code, there's a real justification for it'll be faster if I just let Claude go do all the things to test my app or to look for information. These are not set it or forget it situations, though. Kind of reminds me a little bit of autonomous driving in your car.

28:35Uh, yes, the car can drive itself, but you should not just, you know, take a nap. Uh, you should be watching in case it makes a mistake. Uh, same here. Uh, yeah, this, this is going to work great most of the time, but you should be watching just in case it does something unexpected because these are not road tested bulletproof situations. But, uh, yeah, I'm curious of the folks out there using Claude Code or Claude Cowork, either one, uh, give us some use cases of things you think this is really going to help make things easier for you yeah i know that some people have used the some of these types of agents to like clean up their downloads folder as like as like a basic like oh let's see how this does what it does you'll clean up your downloads folder clean up your screenshots folder whatever and organize them and yeah yeah and i'm curious to test it out but i'm still very nervous on what do you use code much uh i've played around with it but i don't like rely on it or anything You know what I mean?

29:32I'm not using it to the degree that I want to be. I want to get more comfortable with it. I'm sure I'm going to do this eventually. I'm sure I will. I'm just not quite there where I'm like over the nervousness of deleting something accidentally. I don't want that to happen. I admit I need to be playing with these more often than I do just to be conversant with what they're good at. But I have found they are more disappointing than scary most of the time. Getting better all the time. Don't get me wrong. But I usually run into something it does that I'm like, oh, no, that's not right. More often than I run into, oh, no, don't do that.

30:09You know what I mean? Yeah. But they're still helpful. And like I said, they're getting better. You know what else is helpful? Chatting with y 'all in the Discord. We had a great conversation in the hardware channel of Discord yesterday about these new FCC things when they broke last night. If you want to be in on those conversations, you can join our Discord by becoming a patron and linking your Patreon account at patreon.com slash DTNS. Yes.

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32:48My mouth is gobbledygook today. Apologies for that. But in other words, they have to cut back. They're not going to be selling as many as they thought. Interesting, though. I wouldn't have guessed that. I know. That's somewhat concerning. Also concerning, Fortnite maker Epic Games is cutting around a thousand jobs, citing a slump in engagement in Fortnite and the fact that the company is just spending more than it's earning these days. Got to do what you got to do. Drone activity from the war in Iran has knocked AWS Bahrain offline for a second time, forcing Amazon to shift its regional cloud workloads to other regions.

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35:32Yeah, no, I love that. I think it's a long time coming for that. I think it needed to be there a long time ago. We end every episode of DTNS with some shared extra insights from experts in the audience. Today, we've got a few. Stealth Dave and Marty are helping us out. We asked for a use case for AirDrop on Android, and Stealth Dave has delivered. Yes, Stealth Dave writes, I have found that AirDrop is the simplest solution for sharing files directly from my phone to my MacBook Air. And yes, I could use Google Drive, Dropbox, even connect a USB-C cable, but the simplest solution for me has been AirDrop.

36:11For sharing files with friends over untrusted Wi-Fi, I'll probably still use other options, but for sharing between my Pixel and my Mac at home, AirDrop is currently the simplest solution. P.S. I disable everyone mode when I'm not actively sharing files, lest you be concerned for stealth day. Smart. Smart move. I don't use it as much as I probably should. It's a habit that I haven't gotten into, and I need to work on that. And Python and JavaScript developer Marty has some context on why OpenAI is buying Astral. Yeah, Marty writes, Astral has somewhat revolutionized Python tooling in recent years for two main reasons.

36:51They wrote all the tooling in Rust, so it's very performant, and they have unified a lot of the broken ecosystem headaches in the Python ecosystem. That makes it much easier to manage and work on Python apps and projects. I've seen a lot of doom and gloom around this purchase, as UV, Astral, has become a standard for new Python apps on new projects. I don't personally have much of an opinion other than I don't really understand why OpenAI wants them, other than the fact that Anthropic just bought Bunn. Bunn is similar in concept to UV, but on the JavaScript side, an all-in-one development toolchain to make managing the development lifecycle much easier.

37:25There's a lot of movement in this space. Evan Yu has also started his VC-backed company for a similar purpose, the company Void Zero, making Vite Plus with similar intentions to what Bunn is doing. So my theory, this is Marty's theory, is OpenAI doesn't really have that much of a use case for them so much as they are trying to compete in the space with Bunn going to Anthropic and Void Zero recently announcing their Vite Plus Alpha. If none of that means anything to anyone, the TLDR is OpenAI is buying dev tools to stay competitive, is my theory. Keep up the awesome work, Marty Cochran. Yeah, I would agree.

38:00I think this is definitely keeping up with the dev tool action that's happening. And I think it applies more than Marty may give credit to Codex, to OpenAI wanting to include easier ways to do things with Codex. Codex makes it easier to do your code. And if UV can now work with codecs more directly, then I think it makes sense for OpenAI because they're doing so much with coding to want to incorporate that. Mm-hmm. Indeed. Well, what do you think? Are you like, Tom, that was silly. Let me tell you why. You can email us if you've got an insider story or some direct context, like Marty was saying here.

38:39That was super helpful to understand the competitive landscape there. Send us those emails, feedback at dailytechnewshow.com. Love it. Big thanks to Stealth Dave and Marty for contributing to today's show, making us look a bit smarter. And thank you for being along for Daily Tech News Show. You can keep us in business by becoming a patron at patreon.com slash DTNS. We'll see you next time.

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