The Steam Box is Here… And It’s Expensive - DTNS 5295

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2:22This is the Daily Tech News for Tuesday, June 23rd, 2026. We tell you what you need to know, give you the important context and all that stuff, and help each other understand. Today, Valve's steam machine is finally getting real. Like, really, really real, and we have lots of details for you. Super duper real, you might say. I'm Jason Howell. I'm Jen Cutter. Let's start with what you need to know with the big story.

2:48all right things are getting real and in the house uh valve is taking reservation signups for the anticipated steam machine i feel like we've been talking about this for months at this point they are setting the price between around 1050 to 1430 let's say 1430 across four different configurations you have on the low end you have 1049 is the actual amount but it's 512 gigs of storage no steam controller if you upgrade to include a steam controller that goes up to like 1128 so specific the two terabyte storage model runs 1349 dollars without the controller and then if you want the controller then it's 1428 width so maybe just look it up because those numbers are They're all just very confusing.

3:41The Steam machine is built around a custom six-core AMD Zen 4 CPU. Our DNA three-integrated GPU has eight gigs of RAM and 16 gigs of DDR5 system memory. And then the box itself, it's, I don't know, it kind of reminded me of like the GameCube or whatever, but it's about the size of a six-inch cube, right? It's meant to be at your TV set. That's kind of the purpose of this. So think of it that way. Network side, you got your Wi-Fi 6E, you got your Bluetooth 5.3 gigabit Ethernet, thankfully. And then reservations. So this is where things get a little tricky because you might, even though you might really want to reserve one, you might not get your shot for a little while.

4:25It's randomized. They're doing that to curb resellers. So players can join this list right now until Thursday, June 25th, 10 a.m. Pacific. emails will begin to go out the same day to confirm either a reservation slot or placement onto the wait list. And then if you are chosen, purchase emails will be sent to those who have secured a reservation as those units come online. And that's all going to start next Monday, June 29th. Hope that makes sense. Let's stop there. What do you think so far? Is this a complicated scenario? Are you going to be reserving? What are your thoughts? Hey, remember when everyone thought like, man, this might be a great entry level thing for people trying to get into computers.

5:10Oh, my goodness. Oh, the price hurts. We know the price is going to hurt. And the big joke going around my circles right now is, yeah, we know that they're going to sell out instantly of the 250 units they likely produced. Yeah, right. Well, so, okay, so price is, I mean, clearly, these are really expensive. Obviously, we have a pretty strong indication as far as why, because everything's more expensive because these component costs and everything. You have, I imagine, been anticipating this. Does this pricing kind of match up with what you were expecting? I mean, I'm sure you were hopeful for less than this, but where does it land for you?

5:45Well, when it was announced, I was very hopeful. And then over the last six months, less and less hopeful. So I have the Canadian prices here. So the 512 with controller is about$1 ,600 Canadian. And the 2TB with controller is about$2 ,050. and so to make everyone super depressed i helped my friend buy a pc last year in july 2025 and we got a beautiful case ryzen uh 7800 uh x3d rx uh 7800 xt with 32 gigs ddr5 two terabyte uh ssd uh for about uh two thousand dollars and this is the part that really hurts because i had convinced him hey uh just like like fill this box like let's go nuts so we got another 32 gigs of ram for 144.99 canadian and i'm thinking like i should have bought one with me what was i doing my consultation fee was hey can you buy me two pokemon models i did this wrong so my brain having this as like my last big purchase that i assisted someone with in the pc realm which again is not my realm it's just like man i cannot justify this for that box and yes it is pretty it is nice new face plates are going to be really cool but if you're thinking about like shoving this in a little entertainment unit don't uh because you need that front open and you need that back open for uh for the heat sink because it is so small and you're running a lot of stuff there's a lot of heat leave that space it's not unattractive you know it's it's It's very pretty.

7:29Definitely, it's a technology device. Some people will just find technology unattractive in general. But as a technology device that would sit underneath your TV, I've seen a heck of a lot worse. It'll look pretty nice under there. Okay, it's prettier than a PS5. Considering what you're spending for it, maybe you want to show off the fact that you even have one to begin with. And I'm a little concerned about Valve hardware these days. I'm not concerned about Steam Decks because they are pretty well set right now. They've worked out the kinks. but a friend of mine got one of the uh first like consumer um steam controllers and it worked great once and then it started acting wonky so he got through to support and support answered like he actually got through to a person which i didn't think you could do uh they told him the steps to uh to fix it uh and now it's dead it's fully dead and then they said oh well check the forums that was support was checking that was support i'm thinking like like wait like this is yeah that that is depressing because like if you're spending this kind of money and that's the kind of support you're getting here's your one shot at fixing it i don't know maybe you might be better off being on the wait list and let them work out some bugs that's a that's a good point right maybe it's not a horrible thing although the longer you wait do those prices continue to go up i guess we'll find out but yeah is there going to be a refresh are they going to keep pushing out these exact same specs you know it's going to be a v2 in a year and a half yeah the steam box mini or something i don't know um reviews are starting to land on this as well i have one in particular that i read through pc gamers andy edser um says yes love the design uh the cooling system is nice it's it's quiet uh it's a single fan cooling system like you said you're going to want to keep it open but he said that's okay uh custom space plates yay um generally the steam os software integration, he says, is pretty slick, but feels pretty underpowered on day one, right out of the box when you compare it to similarly price.

9:27And this goes exactly to what you're saying is it's a hard comparison to draw now. And maybe part of that is just us getting used to the fact that the price increases are happening now. And let's say six months ago, they weren't nearly as top of mind. They were still horizon-based and not immediate. it and now we're just kind of getting used to okay so what is the new normal in this moment so yeah yeah like so there's that problem and obviously digital foundry has their unit and they have put it through all of the possible paces uh they were doing a lot of comparisons to uh to ps5 for frame rates and stuff uh if you are just treating the steam machine as a console and you just like Load a game and run it.

10:10It will run. It will run nicely. It will run at 1080p. And if you're a PC enthusiast, you're like, why in the heck would you do that? Where is my 4K? So you will have to be PC competent, let's say, because not all console players are. You will need to know how to go in and tweak settings. You will need to do this per game. Now, Digital Foundry and many other sites have just follow these steps, set these settings, and you'll be good. So it's not like you need to work it out individually because you have this consistent hardware base, which is a lot of help. And again, for the console people, if these sell enough, will game developers just have a here we can tell you're running on Steam OS.

10:51Here's the settings. We'll run it cool out of the box. And that even newer games will aim to run on this system because that would be helpful because then you are kind of safely future proofed. but that's not up to you. That's not up to Valve. That is up to game developers. Interesting. All right. So right out of the box here, out of the gate, getting one, yes or no? No. No. Okay. There you have it. Instantly decided. So DTNS is made possible by you, the listener. Thanks to Chad Janusz, Dale McKay, Matt Zaglin, and Jeff Wilkes. Thank you all so, so much. Thank you. Thank you.

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14:23All right, there is plenty more that we need to know today. Let's get to the briefs. Meta is launching its own branded smart glasses line meant to sit below its Ray-Ban Wayfarer collaboration price-wise at about$80 less. The new Meta Adventurer and Fury frames are priced at$299 and still offer an onboard camera and integrated AI features. Meta is also offering a more fashion-forward 399 Starfire model in collaboration with Kylie Jenner. They include a small lens gemstone, metal nose pads to avoid makeup stains, which is actually kind of neat and a thing I never thought of before, a mirrored case, and an AI-generated Kylie voice for Meta AI.

15:09The glasses run Meta's latest MuseSpark multimodal model for more natural interactions, interactions, improved translation support, and features like dynamic photo for shooting high-res vertical video that can be turned into a stylized moving still for reels and stories. Coming soon is an update to include audio-based turn-by-turn directions, which I kind of think would be the easier feature to add. Yeah, that was one of those that I'm like, you know, I'm kind of surprised that you don't have that. Actually, I experienced that when I went to Ireland last year, and I devoted a day to touring Ireland with just the glasses to be my guide.

15:45And I'm like, why am I, you know, why isn't this more integrated? So that actually makes a lot of sense to me that they'd have that, but, um, lower price point, you know, lower barrier to entry for these glasses and meta being probably the, the glasses, uh, the smart glasses maker or tech company that most people are at least aware of, if not, you know, if not totally mainstream mainstream mostly. if you'd heard of snap glass and be like oh that's neat and then they're like i'm sorry how many thousands of dollars are yeah right this will get a whole bunch of fence sitters but i think like social acceptance of these seems to be kind of slipping lately that's that's my that's my take as well completely like i really do and i and so then it makes sense why they would reach out to someone like kylie jenner to um to pull her into this to kind of like soften that maybe get inroads to um to more mainstream audiences although maybe her involvement is less about mainstream more about uh like creators uh that that sort of of audience but yeah i think there's a general pushback not just to these kinds of glasses but you know there's obviously we've talked about plenty of times just the general pushback on ai anything and and these glasses tend to be kind of like the visual representation of the invasiveness of AI for people who just truly don't like the kind of influx of AI into everything.

17:13And so I don't know, I don't know if having Kylie on is going to, you know, soften the blow a little bit. Yeah, I don't have to take the subway that much these days, because generally, if I'm driving, I'm driving a hockey. People hate you if you go on the subway with a hockey bag, let me tell you. So I don't have to run into some of the people being jerks with these glasses as much. And I keep fighting with myself because I love the accessibility stuff. It makes such a difference to people to have the turn by turn to not everyone can like guide dogs are really expensive. If you've not looked into this, like the training and cost and the wait list to get one is huge.

17:52So having glasses that can help you out with this in the short term for a like one time fee is great. so I need the people being jerks to stop being jerks but uh I think that's you know yeah the accessibility side of things is uh is really important on something like this because you know there are people who who have serious needs for what this technology gives you and then when they get that through the technology it would be really hard to like take that away so you know that that's a really important thing to look at just a few quick tips before we move on here um The bendable temple tips is kind of a new feature of these frames.

18:30Overextension hinges so that they can flare if you have a larger head, let's say. Oh, that's so helpful, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And still basically leaning on Essilor Luxottica as the manufacturing and distribution partner. But, you know, clearly these are not Ray-Bans. These are not Oakleys. Well, if any of you out there grab one, feedback at dailytechnewshow.com because we want to hear your thoughts. Let us know. And you save a bit of money when you get these. That's kind of the point. As the world waits, as the world turns for what comes next after the removal of Mythos and Fable for us plebs, there are a few stories today that are kind of together setting the stage for a few alternative directions, let's say.

19:17In one hand, there's a Tokyo startup called Sakana AI, which launched Fugu, which is a commercial multi-agent system that exposes a single open AI compatible API. That API routes requests across a pool of interconnected agents. So agents from all different sources, let's say. CEO David Ha, who, by the way, came from Google Brain and Stability AI, says it's the answer to relying on one single vendor's foundation model for their infrastructure, be that enterprise or national or whatever. And then all of that, of course, very relevant to this whole mythos thing that's happening right now, where there was, in many cases, a potential reliance on a thing that suddenly gets pulled out and you no longer have access to it.

20:08So in the case of this, it's orchestration patterns, it's routings, the specific models that it's calling. It's all proprietary information to Fugu, but Fugu allows enterprises to opt particular providers out if they wish. So they do have some sort of control. So the whole idea here is just giving you control over how you orchestrate these tasks and then splitting up the, let's say, the effort amongst different agents from different places so you aren't fully reliant on one specific thing to do all of your bidding for you or your work. So that makes sense to me. Yeah, it's a good start. Yep. And then you've got OpenAI launching Patch the Planet and, you know, kind of like Hack the Planet from Hackers in the 90s.

20:56Yeah, that one, I really groan. Sometimes I appreciate that kind of stuff. This time I was like, no, no, I was trying too hard. Yeah, right. Well, Patch the Planet is a security initiative that's pairing its tools, OpenAI's tools, security-related tools with Trail of Bits security engineers to help open source maintainers in finding and fixing vulnerabilities in their code bases. So OpenAI plans to use tools like Codex Security in the process to help ease those growing piles, which we have definitely talked about, of bug reports because these models are so good at finding them. And suddenly they have this mountain of bug reports that they have to sift through in ways that can ease the workload of maintainers and actually enable them to fix the vulnerabilities as opposed to just finding them and collecting them.

21:46So that's kind of the goal. Yeah, it is the loudest storm in open source right now about like, yes, all of these bug reports for various degrees of severity, but also the resistance slash anger to any kind of vibe coded fixes. Some people are just blood boilingly furious about this and other people are like, what else do you want us to do? We can't handle this by ourselves. None of you are paying us. Right, right. And yeah, it's a real tricky thing because, and maybe I've said this before, but in the world of security, you probably, like, I don't know, I don't work on these teams, so I'm just making an assumption, but you probably want to know that these things exist versus not know that they exist, right?

22:30Because once they're known, then you can actually do something about it. But it's just the volume of the knowing now is so great that you can't keep up with it. And now there's like a resistance to the knowing. And it's like, well, I don't know what to tell you here. Don't you want to know that these things exist? But when you can't do anything about it, that's a real helpless feeling. It has to be. So much talk about forks. And of course, like, okay, so great. So you fork it, but those bugs still exist. Are you going to sit there by hand and patch them? How are people going to differentiate? Because a lot of people are being pushed to Linux now, which is great.

23:05Because people like me who are kind of fed up with Windows, I'm running Linux on different machines now. But oh, goodness, I do not know how this is going to shake out. It's going to be a fight for a while. Yeah. And I will say also, definitely a lot of positive reaction to the collaboration with Trail of Bits as a partnership. It's a pretty strong credibility signal. They're independent. They built their name on these very public audits of things like Kubernetes, Linux, a number of cryptography and blockchain systems and stuff. So they maintain a bunch of open source tools. They're a notable name to be partnered up, even if the name for the effort is a little bit of an eye roll.

23:51Patch the planet. Well, speaking of Kubernetes, we've got a very interesting story for you. thanks to Birday in the subreddit for this. Google and the University of California, San Diego are running a live research project turning old Google Pixel phones into low-cost computing clusters for university-scale data center workloads. The team strips retired Pixel phones down to their motherboards and replaces the Android OS with a Linux distribution that can support tools like Kubernetes. The project has shown that 25 to 50 smartphones can match the compute of a single dual socket server class CPU for some tasks.

24:32They are planning on a 2000 phone cluster that they expect will support 100 computer science classes at one time. Love it. I mean, what's not to like? Yeah, go for it. Try it. Let's see what happens. Totally. I mean, there's a number of reasons why this is so pertinent and interesting right now. right? Like, one, there is just the reusability of old hardware. I mean, it's a topic that comes up on Android Faithful a lot, which is like, I've got this old hardware just collecting dust, like there must be something I can do with it. Hey, turn it into a server, you know, cluster. That's one thing I hadn't considered.

25:10Yeah, I thought like smart screens, but clusters, huh? Yeah, or yes, like a smart screen for your home or something like that. There's a million different things that you could possibly do, but that's pretty interesting. If you can source, what, 2 ,000 of these phones. I mean, that is the flip side of this, but as a university, they have their ways, I'm sure. But it's also a very timely moment for repurposing these things because, like we were talking about, the Steam Deck, or sorry, the Steam Box conversation, components are expensive, and they're getting more and more expensive. So the need to take old hardware or the opportunity, maybe not even the need, but the opportunity lying there, just doing nothing in this old phone hardware that's sitting around when you could actually put it to work and power and support 100 computer science classes at the school.

26:00That's pretty impressive. That's awesome. I love it. Does that count as running local too? So you can do stuff on it you don't want other people to see. Exactly. Yes. It definitely reduces the need to go to the cloud for a lot of this stuff. So, yeah, I think it's great. I absolutely love it. Well, if you've got some thoughts on this, you can join the conversation always in our Discord, which you can join by linking a Patreon account at patreon.com slash DTNS.

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27:32All right, it's quick headline time. These are a few headlines that you'll want to know at the dinner table tonight when someone asks you, tell me something smart. Well, here's something pretty smart. A startup called Coherence Neuro has implanted a coin-sized brain computer in three brain tumor patients during surgery that is designed to sense tumor activity and use electrical stimulation to slow or prevent the regrowth of aggressive cancers. I'd be super curious to hear how that test goes. Yeah, fingers crossed. actually able to do i just love this i came randomly across an article on tech crunch so you should look it up but ribby r-i-b-b-i-e i think it's ribby.tv is a free site free website it was vibe coded by its creator that uses mlb's public stats api to render live baseball games as 8-bit arcade style pixel art broadcasts uh and it supports fantasy rosters i mean if you like old school like 8-bit baseball games you know on your nintendo or whatever this is basically like taking the feed of mlb on a game that's in progress and putting it into that kind of experience yeah i had somebody explain to me like yeah ribby just uh that's how people say rbi and i'm like oh okay well i'm surprised it's 8-bit because like when i saw the screens i'm like oh man this looks like a great super nintendo game i love this yeah maybe it's more 16-bit than 8-bit yeah Nine to five Google's APK teardown of the latest Android system intelligence app found a new pixel auto audio memory feature that runs on device to log music and quote important conversations for notes and history curation on device.

29:19So like an AI note pin of some sort, but it's just your phone, which makes a lot of sense. Also on Android, Pixel devices is a feature that's been around for years called Now Playing that ambiently picks up music that's playing in the room and gives you an identifier on your lock screen to say, oh, that's Jennifer Lopez, whatever the song title is. So I'm guessing this is kind of tied into that to say we're already ambiently picking up music. What if we ambiently also pick up important conversations? I don't know how people are going to feel about that, but it's very curious. Very interesting.

29:55This one's a bit of a financial story, more so than a tech story. But you may have heard that tech stocks globally are dipping. Here's what started it. Korean regulators warned that they have been too quick to approve, quote, leveraged funds that are actually tied to chip stocks. That's Finspeak for borrowing money to buy stocks. That caused a lot of folks to back out of the two biggest chip makers in Korea, SK Hynix and Samsung. That and concerns about a U.S. interest rate rise seem to have sparked a wider global tech sell-off. So now you know. There you go. Thanks to Motang in the subreddit for letting us know that AMD is restoring its memory guard TSM-E encryption option to non-pro Ryzen 9000 desktop CPUs after silently removing it via firmware, which had triggered a strong user backlash and criticism that the change was meant to push buyers toward more expensive chips that, as discussed, none of us could afford right now.

30:57Yes, indeed. That is true. President of the United States signed two executive orders Monday directing the Department of Energy to assist and fund building a quantum computer powerful enough for scientific research by 2028, as well as to accelerate the development of security measures against attacks enabled by quantum computers. So no cell phones involved in this one. uh samsung uh announced a ufs 5.0 storage chip for phones and wearables that reaches 10.8 gigs read and 9.5 gigs write speeds more than double the previous ufs 4.1 standard so basically it's faster ai workloads and it's all done on device instead of relying on the cloud which again we all agree is a positive thing positive step china's line shine supercomputer has overtaken in the US El Capitan supercomputer.

31:52It hit 2.198 exaflops of performance, became the world's fastest in the process, and the first to pass two exaflops of sustained performance. And Meta halted its Model Capability Initiative, an internal tool that logs employee mouse movements and keystrokes and screenshots to train its AI on how workers do their work. This was after documents revealed that sensitive data was retrievable by all employees through the system. And I think I also didn't include in the rundown today, but I also saw some stories the last couple of days about how morale at Meta is at an all-time low from those on the inside.

32:34Bit of a dip. No reason. No reason. I wonder if it's related at all. That's going too far, I think. We end every episode of DTNS with some shared perspectives. And today, Jonathan has some hope for Amazon delivery drivers air conditioning. Jonathan writes, I had to chime in on the Amazon van AC discussion. If you think about it, there shouldn't be a problem. The driver has AC until he arrives at your door. He organizes himself with the door closed, AC running for up to 10 minutes. Then he opens the door, has 30 seconds to close the door, which is a key point. Don't be lazy and leave the door open.

33:13then delivers the package, open and closes the door, and gets underway to the next stop. It seems 10 minutes is plenty of time to gather and deliver the packages at one stop. I suspect the real issue might be drivers being too lazy to close the door behind themselves when they walk away from the van, which honestly would make the AC continuing to run fairly pointless. My two cents. I don't know. I'm not an Amazon driver. I have no experience with this, not even delivering pizzas because they wouldn't hire teenage girls. I'm really. Yeah, apparently they didn't want teenage girls delivering pizzas at night.

33:51No teenage girls. They eat all the pizza before it gets delivered. That's why. Yeah, you know, I'm not an Amazon driver. I don't actually know an Amazon driver to ask them. I'm guessing if there are probably some Amazon drivers out there that were hearing this email being read and probably shouting out possibly, you don't understand what it's like. But my guess is that Amazon drivers, or at least my read on this, is that Amazon drivers often feel like the numbers that they're supposed to hit as far as the amount of deliveries and the time it takes and all this is so progressed and so compressed that maybe the reality is it actually slows them down to shut the door.

34:33I don't know. I'm just trying to look at this from all angles because I totally see where you're coming from, Jonathan. And at the same time, I want to give the benefit of the doubt for the people who are actually out in the trenches doing the work on very hot days that don't have air conditioning when they get back in the vehicle. Like, I think they should be protected from that. And so, I don't know. Yeah. I had a Mazda MX3 that did not have air conditioning because it was too expensive to fix, again, back when I was a teenager. And I was dying. I would be doing, like, three-hour drives between cities and stuff for hockey.

35:04And I'm thinking like, man, every time I read stories about Amazon drivers, it's like, this sucks. This sucks. They're human beings. Treat them like human beings. This is going to cross you. Yes, I understand that on the scale, they're paying for a lot of trucks and a lot of people. And those little scents add up. But also, they're human beings. Give them a break. Yeah, that's kind of how I feel. So what are you thinking about? Do you have some insight into stories like this or any other things that we talk about or you think that we should talk about? Share it with us at feedback at dailytechnewsshow.com Yes, indeed.

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