TikTok Has Finalized Its US Deal - DTNS 5191

0:03This is the Daily Tech News for Friday, January 23rd, 2026. We tell you what you need to know, give you the important context, and help each other understand. Today, we are tackling the new TikTok deal and what it means for users in the U.S. Oh, my goodness. Have we finally reached a resolution? It's kind of crazy. I'm Jason Howell. We're going to figure that out. And I'm Sarah Lane. We're going to start with what you need to know with a big story. Yeah, this is just the story that just never ends. We've got a few of those in today's show, actually. But we're going to start with the really, really big one.

0:38ByteDance's TikTok announced it has created a joint venture to spin out its USDS organization into a joint venture called TikTok USDS Joint Venture LLC. It's a lot of joint venture. USDS stands for U.S. Data Security. It was created, by the way, in May 2022 to separate U.S. user data from the rest of TikTok's operations, also called Project Texas, and it's been running on Oracle servers and has implemented the TikTok recommendation algorithm on those servers. So this, you know, in many ways, this is nothing new, although in other ways it is. The new joint venture will take over Project Texas and continue its data protection and security practices on Oracle hardware and run the recommendation algorithm it will also license the algorithm from tick tock and train test and update it separately from bite dances tick tock this might actually mean that you get different recommendations when you're using tick tock in the us than you would get in other regions because they're kind of operating on their own essentially tick tock usds will also validate source code and take over trust and safety and moderation on the U.S.

1:56version of TikTok. And it will do the same for ByteDance's other apps. So, you know, CapCut, Lemonade, those apps. ByteDance will still operate its TikTok U.S. company to handle marketing and e-commerce like TikTok shop and advertising. And then Oracle, Silver Lake, and UAE investment company MGX will each own 15 % of USDS. Now, ByteDance, that is China's ByteDance, will hold 19.9 % of it in compliance with the law, requiring it to own less than 20%. Oh, my God. Just in there. I mean, yeah, just in, you know, saved by the bell. Yeah. You only do what you absolutely have to do, right? Come on. I don't know why you just don't go for the full 20%, but they wanted to be really careful and really safe.

2:50listen they couldn't go 20 19.9 still a majority but oh that's true okay and i guess own less than 20 percent that you know it's not less than or equal to 20 legally i mean sound it's less than 20 percent yeah but it's also like a little bit of an f you let's be honest i love it uh existing ByteDance investors like Susquehanna and General Atlantic will own about 30 percent. And the remaining 5 percent is divided among several investors. That includes Michael Dell, French entrepreneur Xavier Neal, Vice President J.D. Vance's former firm Revolution. The new independent TikTok USDS is going to have a seven member board of directors.

3:39TikTok CEO Xiao Chu is on the board along with members from U.S. investors. Adam Presser, who currently runs USDS and TikTok U.S.'s Trust and Safety, will become CEO of the independent TikTok USDS. Are you following? This is such a complicated kind of structure. I'm trying. I know. I'm trying my best, too. I think probably the bigger question that people listening might have is on what users, what users like them might actually notice. And the answer is probably not a whole lot. You won't need a new app. TikTok changes its algorithm, its recommendation algorithm all the time. So any changes that you see there could possibly have happened anyway.

4:25I don't know. So we've got some structural changes, a lot of structural changes. And at the end of the day, many years later, as a user, you might not see much difference. So there we are, Sarah. What do you think of all that? Well, so I talk about this on DTNS all the time. And it's not an age thing, although that probably is a factor. I don't consume TikTok content all that often. If somebody sends me a video or an account, I will occasionally kind of get in there. And then I get sucked in and I'm like, too addictive, too much ice cream. And so I really don't visit TikTok on a regular basis.

5:13I would say maybe a couple of times a month. Let's be honest. Now, you might say, where are you even hanging out? Turns out there are other social networks. What are you doing if you're not on TikTok? There is nothing else to do in this world. Other social networks to do that. I think what is interesting about this new structure is ByteDance is still the majority owner. Yeah. You have a lot of other irons in the fire here. And so that may make whatever anybody else has to bring to the table and is meaningful for them, that might be a different conversation. I don't know how much users in the U.S.

5:56who have a different version of TikTok are going to notice the difference. If you do and you say, oh, yeah, you know, totally get it. I mean, let us know. Feedback at DailyTechNewsShow.com. But, you know, it's like you said, Jason, algorithms change all the time. We do not control that unless we're on the board of a company like TikTok. and I just I'm kind of like you know what they're just doing whatever and a lot of people are going to get a little bit more money in the process the rest of us can just watch funny cat videos yeah but did the but but did somebody involved with the company decide that you were going to watch funny cat videos it was their choice and not the algorithm you know there's some concern around that right like that these companies all have a new found um in some cases not so newfound but um interaction or closeness to this so how much will they influence what you see through the you're making a very good point here and i think that there are people um you know who are following the story as we are who have that same question is is it the algorithm based on your behavior you know where what's your ip address where do you live how old are you are you male or female like all that stuff it's like okay we're all kind of used to that algorithm doesn't always get it right but we're used to it or is a social network giving you stuff that is not algorithmic at all it's based on what somebody in a higher power decides that you should see and that is And I'm not saying that's going to happen with this new structure, but I think that that is a fear a lot of people have about structures like this, where, again, you have a lot of powerful people who all say like, okay, well, I have a say in this.

7:49And everybody has an agenda. We all do. And, you know, I have an agenda. My agenda is going on a walk with my dog today. If I was the president of the United States, my agenda might be kind of different. Yeah. There you go. Yeah, I mean, you know, I think some of the view on this is like at the end of the day after all this is this just kind of theater for the most part. Nothing changes except that, you know, obviously there's there's new owners. This certainly has made the I have to imagine I haven't looked directly into this, but I have to imagine the U.S. presidential administration is probably pretty happy because they've you know, this has been a thing that's been bubbling.

8:30And we've been talking about this for years. We've been talking about this for years. So we finally have kind of an end point. We finally have a solution that I think tackles their kind of concerns and what they were pushing for. Also, as a creator, as a content creator, I'll be curious to see if this, you know, I tend to think the answer is no. But does it does it make any changes that impact the creators, the people putting anything on TikTok? Probably not. But I'm curious to see how that pans out, too. Yeah, well, you know, we have been talking about this for a while. I think for myself, it was a little bit of like, OK, finally, we can all move on.

9:09But I know many of you online are talking about, you know, is this right? Is this wrong? You know, is this situation good for the public? Is it not? And Jason, spoiler alert, I don't think we're going to be stopping talking about this anytime soon. I was just going to say, just because this happened doesn't mean the story ends. this is not one of those stories that ends now we've got all the follow-ups of like yeah we're not there yet well uh we could not do the show without your brain mind everybody out there who listens and watches our show dtns is made possible by you the the people who uh you know give us accolades every day we wouldn't do it without you thanks to chris allen reed fishler larry bailey and everyone who supports our show.

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10:04There's more we need to know today. Let's get to the briefs. Google and Epic. You just can't quit each other, apparently, and we can't either. The feud looked close to wrapping up after a jury found Google's Play Store rules illegal and both sides were moving toward a global settlement to open Android to rival app stores. Now, things are getting a little bit more tangled with a previously secret partnership where Epic commits around$80 million over six years to buy Google. $800, actually, which is a big, big difference. What did I say? $80. That's okay. $800 million. Just another zero. That is a big difference.

10:46Thank you. Thank you for correcting me on that. Dropping a zero turns out very important. Okay, so$800 million over six years to buy Google Cloud and other services, all linked to Unreal Engine, Fortnite, and what Tim Sweeney still brands, the metaverse. We consider it Fortnite metaverse for some reason. Yeah. Judge James Donato hasn't signed off on the settlement, is now drilling into how this Unreal Google services pact fits into the antitrust deal. Does it work? Does it not? He's openly asking whether a deep business partnership, which includes Epic, helping Google market Android, where Google leans on Epic's tech, has softened Epic's push for structural changes that would benefit all developers.

11:33Even as Sweeney insists, this is a straight pay Google to compete harder arrangement, not a payoff. Now, if you're following along, there's a lot of moving parts here. Jason, again, another story we've been following for years. Are you Team Sweeney here? I mean, that's a good question. I'm all about making these stores and making the whole infrastructure and architecture of all this stuff more fair for more people. And I think this is, you know, clearly both sides involved here. They are moving towards some sort of like alignment, like a strategic alignment. And that's why Epic is looking to kind of secure Google's cloud, secure Google as this distribution partner.

12:31Google really just wants to keep one of its loudest critics happy, or at least at bay, but also tied into its stack for six years. So Google has a lot to benefit from this. Sure. I think, you know, I wonder how this lines up for others when the benefit all along has really seemed to be for everyone else as much as it is for Epic. I feel like that's largely been part of Epic's case along the line is like, hey, this is unfair to us, but it's also unfair to everyone. So the public interest aspect kind of gets a little blurrier when suddenly there become these larger commercial upsides for both companies, maybe.

13:12But, you know, I'm not a lawyer. I don't play one on TV. Maybe I play one on podcasts, but that's not even true. That's where I'm at right now. I feel like it muddies it a little bit to be like, oh, okay, here's a deal. Not only a deal, but kind of like this secret deal that we didn't know about. And what is the benefit to all when they're making this deal? Or is that just like they're allowed to do that and that's okay? I feel like Judge Howell has a nice ring to it. Judge presiding Judge Howell. uh that wow that sounds like a life i do not want to live i know i know someone's like hey want to be a judge nope nope nope no no um that is uh and you know kudos to all who are uh but uh you know thank you for your service indeed indeed um yeah once again you know this is just this in combination with the tiktok story are two of the stories that i would consider at the top of the tree of stories that we just can't quit, that just won't quit.

14:13It's the never ending story. That's what it is. I love it. Oh boy, taking me back. A researcher discovered a huge unsecured database that exposed 149 million usernames and passwords. Tell me if you've heard this one before. Across Gmail, Facebook, banking, government, crypto services. So you got logins for netflix tick tock only fans binance even government and academic systems so needless to say a whole lot of you know ids and a lot of user information going on there's a lot of stuff thrown around in this database security analyst jeremiah fowler reported the database to the hosting provider i think it was a canadian hosting provider which then actually removed it now fowler was unable to determine who exactly owned or operated the database but believes the trove was built by malware, which I mean, yeah, I'm not surprised by in the least about that, that infected devices, key logged data typed into websites.

15:14I think what's really interesting about this is while Fowler was working on this during his time investigating the database, Fowler witnessed it actively growing with new captured data. So it's a good thing that it's shut down now because it was still kind of in progress and process and growing over time, even while he was investigating. Yeah. I mean, one of the other podcasts that I write and produce regularly is Cybersecurity Headlines. Many of you listen to that as well. And so I have kind of an eagle eye on a lot of these stories, even much more than I normally would have just in general tech stories.

15:58And the team over there and I frequently talk about, all right, so, you know, do we, you know, what is our, how do we not only inform the public, but also give them tips, tips and tricks? What do we do differently? And, you know, this is a very savvy public, you know, in many terms, you know, they're running security for a company, you know, they're, they're, they're the best at this, at what they do. And it always comes back to you have to just think think hard about where are you actively logging into on a regular basis gmail facebook banking government crypto services well they don't all apply to me in the exact same way but those are all very very important stuff important places um so um and you have you have to understand that you know if you're reusing passwords or for any other reason don't have a strong password you're gonna get bit bit in the butt eventually about you know over something like this and this stuff happens all day every day there is a breach all day every day there really is this is just a really big one so it's getting a lot of attention and it's just a great reminder you know use a password manager if for whatever reason that doesn't work for you you have other options but just know if if you know if if you have a username and a password and that can be tied to private information about yourself you know like i'm not even talking about only fans like it's like it doesn't even have to be like oh salacious information about yourself just information about yourself and you care about that not being public you have to stay on top of this kind of thing.

17:48Yeah. Yeah. I mean, this, you know, again, this is another like story theme for better or for worse. And I hate admitting it. But when stories like this come along, I've seen and as you have to, we've witnessed so many of these time and time again that like when I see 149 million now, I don't even see that as a big number. I'm just like, oh, it's probably the same stuff that was already, you know, leaked like 5 million times before. Like I've just considered it all bankrupt at this point yeah last pass was talking about this in 2020 yeah yeah and and again it's it's it's very difficult to scrub uh there there are so many accounts that i have you know i bought a pair of shoes on nike.com once right and so like i have a username and password there that were part of a breach does that really affect me well it would if i use that password anywhere else which actually mattered to me kind of thing right right just a good reminder right you know it's it's this is not a solvable problem overnight um and those uh you know who are pro pasky will say like pasky solved us um not everybody feels that way and again it's not like a you know press a button and all is fixed you you really you know just a reminder you gotta you gotta to do it yourself.

19:07Yeah. Yep. Indeed. All right. A six month Amsterdam UMC study of 437 adults over the age of 65 who had a known elevated stroke risk found that those who were in Apple Watch had more than four times as many AFib diagnoses, 21 cases, as those receiving standard care, only five cases. Interestingly, more than half of Apple Watch's group's AFib cases were in people who felt completely fine. They were not going to the hospital themselves. Every AFib case in the standard care group did have symptoms. So, you know, there's a difference there. Researchers are now crediting the Apple Watch's combo of optical pulse monitoring, on-demand ECG, and irregular rhythm alerts for that increased speed and diagnosis.

20:01Now, this is not to say that if you wear an Apple Watch all day, every day, which I do, and says like, something seems to be a little weird about your heart rate, does not mean that's true. It's Apple Watch saying, I think something might be off. Maybe you should look into this. And I think that this is a great example of a study that says if you feel fine, but actually you've got some arrhythmia going on, you might need to look at that ticker, then that is good data for us all to have, even if it's a false positive. Yeah, because a lot of us are not good at, a lot of humans are not good at listening to their bodies.

20:48And actually, when they listen to the body and hear something that might actually be concerning, doing something about it. So having a thing that's continuously monitoring that's on you, even if it's not even even if it isn't the sort of thing where it says, yes, there is a problem and there actually isn't if it's a false positive or whatever. Just having something that is constantly there to say as an additional point, like, hey, by the way, I saw something. You might want to look into this nudge nudge. That's pretty awesome. And, you know, some people might say, well, these watches, you know, they're really expensive.

21:25But I mean, you could potentially you could offset that cost because you don't need more intensive treatment down the line on something like this. Possibly so. I don't know. I think this makes a ton of sense. And I'm happy that we're getting to this point with wearable tech where it can, at least according to this research, make such an impact on illuminating when there is an issue, even if people feel absolutely normal. Absolutely. And just a reminder, again, 437 adults, not a huge sample size, but significant, all over the age of 65. And that is where men and women have to think about heart issues more often than not.

22:07So it is a kind of specific group. And I know people who have AFibs. And in many cases, you get real sick before you get to the point where you're like, okay, we need to approach my heart a little bit differently because that's the only way I'm going to stay alive. to get anything that will help you data wise, you know, but cart before the horse, right? That is that I think that's just, you know, invaluable. You can share that data with your doctor. The doctor can say, you know, you know, like, whatever, it's like, you still have to have a medical team. This is this is just sort of like, first, you know, kind of first responder type thing.

22:54For example, so I, as far as I know, don't have heart problems, but every so often, my Apple Watch will do like a, your heart rate seemed to have increased when you seem to be not, you know, doing exercise. I'm paraphrasing. This happens sometimes. Sometimes I'm like watching like a scary movie and I'm like, wow, it knew. It knew that like I got kind of scared, Like my heart rate increased. But if that were to happen for no real reason, I might say, hmm, I might need to go to, you know, my, you know, my, my primary care physician and just, just make sure things are okay. And that's where I think a lot of people who might have significant problems down the road, they really benefit from stuff like this.

23:40Yeah. Yeah. And again, given that you actually heed that warning, do something with it. You know, sometimes I get notifications on my watch. I'm like, eh, swipe away. this is an inconvenient time don't do that with this sort of stuff you can hate your watch but heed the warning and finally tesla has begun operating its self-driving taxi service in austin without that's austin texas without in-car safety monitors this is the first known deployment of fully unmonitored rides using its autonomous driving stack ceo elon musk is saying this is proof that tesla's full self-driving technology is finally ready for commercial scale ride hailing Now, Electrek reports that many of these vehicles are still being shadowed by trailing Tesla vehicles with staff inside, supported also by a control room that can teleoperate the cars when needed.

24:32So is there nobody, you know, is nobody sitting in the car? It's fully autonomous, but it's also monitored. Yeah, but there's still people kind of monitoring and making sure. Electric also points out that Tesla VP of self-driving Ashok Elswami clarified that the rollout includes only a few unsupervised vehicles. And that's intermixed with the broader supervised robo taxi fleet for now increases over time, obviously, as this improves, I suppose. But for now, you know, you might start seeing those if you live in Austin, Texas. Well, you know, everybody who listens to DTNest regularly knows that I talk about Waymo a lot, mostly because it's just everywhere around me.

25:16Jason, do you have Waymos up in your neck of the woods? Not in Petaluma. Not in Petaluma, definitely in San Francisco, definitely actually in the Bay Area, because now they're cleared to go on the freeway and stuff between certain cities. yeah but but north bay not not quite there yet so i see i see this so much especially because you know i'm out and about you know walking on the sidewalk with my dog and so or you know driving around la and and waymos have just they become so quickly something you know it started out as like a oh look nobody's driving that car what are they gonna do is it gonna be crazy are they gonna run into traffic and you know like like what's the worst case scenario and honestly nobody cares anymore and that happened really quickly that happened really quickly in fact just yesterday i was walking down the street um the light turned yellow um i was gonna turn right anyway on the sidewalk so it didn't apply to me but the light turned yellow there was a waymo and the waymo sped up to get through that yellow light before it turned red this is not illegal but i was like that was a very human behavior that just happened yeah right you know like that was not being overly cautious they'd err on the side of safety of like that was not being cautious that was like i'm in a hurry and you know i i feel that everything's safe nobody's in the crosswalk we're going um and i was like that actually yeah that's i would have done the same thing so anyway that way we'll had a place to be.

26:48Yeah. Going back to Tesla as full as, you know, fully, you know, autonomous cars. I think the company is very smart to have human drivers monitoring this, not only on the road, but, you know, back at, you know, in the Batcave. I think that's, I think that's a great idea. I don't totally know, you know, how all the sensors differ between, you know, a Tesla or a Waymo or a Zook or, you know, we, we, Zooks, we've got, you know, quite, quite a few companies who are all competing for this market. And there's probably a place for all of them, especially in certain markets more than others. So yeah, you know, for anybody who's in Austin, Texas, if Justin Robert Young, are you listening, but anybody else?

27:36Yeah. If you, if you have thoughts on, you know, how this feels different or, you know, what's better or worse, or is one option more expensive than the other. I think that those are all variables that people are going to kind of use in the future. I mean, right now in my neighborhood, I mean, there are so many Waymos and we also have quite a few elementary schools and junior highs around me. So you, you see like kids getting into the back of a Waymo to go to school. And I'm like, that's probably safer than a lot of other options, but that's not free. You know, like if we get to the point where we've got more competition and the price comes down, that's where I think it's going to be really interesting, you know, who people choose.

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29:03All right, finally, some quick headlines that are good to know and might make you look really smart in the future. Intel beat Q4 expectations on earnings per share and revenue, but offered weak guidance for Q1, citing limited chip supply. Ooh, yeah, we've heard that one before. And lower production yields than it had hoped. There you go, Intel. Samsung, by the way, at CES, I got to play around with the Samsung Galaxy Z Trifold. Very cool phone. While it is coming to the U.S. soon, potential buyers can head to one of seven Samsung Experience stores around the U.S. right now to test it out ahead of its launch somewhere in the near future.

29:45Google Photos' new Me Meme features let users turn their selfies into personalized meme images with templates, quick edits, and one-tap sharing from the Create tab inside the app on iOS and Android. Me Meme. Say that three times. Yeah. That's what we need. More memes. Oh, yeah. That's what this world needs. I don't hate the memes. Keep them coming. It's fine. Sony announced its first new vinyl turntables in quite a few years with two Bluetooth-ready USB-equipped decks that target first-time vinyl listeners. And then there's also a more expensive one for upgraders, starting at around$399.99, so$400.

30:32This follows Sony's recent announcement, by the way, earlier this week, that they would move their home audio hardware into a new business entity with TCL. So this seems to be coming out ahead of that deal. Listen, Jason, you are much more of the audiophile of the two of us. But when I read the story, I immediately thought of you. Because I'm like, you know what? I mean, it's Sony, Bluetooth ready, 400 bucks. That's a fun project at home. Hey, I'm$399.99. Okay, let's just be real. $400. I thought that much. I need to get a record player. Yeah, why not? Yeah, we all need that. Turntables, they're back.

31:09Sure. Malaysia has reinstated access to Grok after X tightened its AI safeguards to stop users from generating and sharing sexualized images of other people without their consent. These stories always make me have a crazy mouth because, yeah, it is... It's weird. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. It's weird and icky. That's why. That's why. Yeah, pretty much. Apple CEO Tim Cook has placed hardware chief John Ternus in control of Apple's design teams, where he will manage communication between the design and executive teams. Ternus, by the way, widely believed, believed, so none of this is confirmed, to be a frontrunner to take over as CEO at Apple at one time somewhere down the line when Tim Cook retires.

32:01Yeah, there was a rumor, you know, I don't know, I guess like Q3 of 2025, where it was like, Tim Cook might be stepping down. Who's next? And then Apple was like, no, they're not. I'm still here. However, when you're a company like Apple, or, you know, any huge company, I mean, Microsoft, Apple, Samsung, I mean, you know, the list goes on. You have to think about what happens. for sure what happens what happens in the future so yeah absolutely we will be looking at john turnus um and uh you know what he contributes to the company in el futuro microsoft speaking of is adding a new co-pilot driven coloring book feature to paint that generates coloring templates images based on user submitted text prompts oh so you need a color page for your kid you don't have to like buy a book anymore you just go into paint and say make me one with a fuzzy rabbit or or you know definitely kids but also i don't know maybe you're trying to think about you know what to paint your sunroom you know like like i think you could you could get some sort of pinteresty ideas from this yeah sure curl killed its bug bounty program to cut off rewards for people who were submitting low effort AI generated slop reports in exchange for cash bounties.

33:28Curl chief Daniel Stenberg hopes developers will still report, quote, actual security vulnerabilities even if we do not pay for them. So apparently they were getting lots of random reports generated by AI and they were not happy about it. I mean, so I realized that AI slop contributes to a lot of work being done by by actual humans that maybe isn't the best use of their time but i had to laugh at this a little bit we talked on uh on dtns live about this yesterday just a little bit of like okay so you're saying like look at this stupid you know bug bounty you like what what what do i get for this horrible use of code and the company was like okay too many of you are doing this yes you can still report but we're not paying you anymore and we're moving it to github finally nintendo is launching a 35 super mario wonder inspired talking trumpet headed flower there's no screen there's no microphone but there is a button that can either trigger a new response or silence it when you say i've had enough again 35 arrives march 12th okay the talking flower and you can't talk to it.

34:46So it just talks at you, but it's cute. So I'll give it that. We end every episode of DTNS with some shared perspectives. And today, Andrew from Colorado has thoughts about AI making him more productive. Yeah, and thank you for this, Andrew. He says, after hearing the story about perceived AI time savings at work, I stopped to think about how much time augmented coding saved me in the past week. When I list all the things that I did with the genie and how long it would have taken me without it, I easily saved myself eight hours of work. But I didn't really, because then I used that time to do other things.

35:24Without it, I just wouldn't have done some of the things that I did. The better question for workers might be, what does AI let you do that you couldn't before? Right now, says Andrew, the better question is, I'm leading a team, doing a port from one programming language to another that I know we wouldn't have even attempted as recently as a year ago. And I'm making easily readable metric reports where before I would have shown raw data or just delayed reporting. Andrew says it's a very different type of productivity that AI is enabling for the daily worker. Not really time savings though. There are definitely initiatives swirling around me to drive AI adoption.

36:08And I've bucked against them at times because they never really seemed useful. But once I found the value for myself, I've been all about it. I think it's super smart. I would totally agree. Like I've thought about this a lot as I've used and experimented with AI and, you know, kind of built systems for how I do my business and everything around these models. And I've gotten so used to it. I then look back and I'm like, what did I ever do without? I did fine. I did fine without. I just treated my time differently. And I think this is really smart. you probably wouldn't have done some of the other things that using AI to free up time to do other things kind of affords you.

36:48It's just a different use of your time. I think for a lot of folks, too, who are like, I just don't use AI all that often. I just, you know, I don't I don't really understand this conversation that, you know, that that Andrew is bringing up. It's like, what if I didn't have to shower every day? I mean, showering takes, I don't know, maybe five, maybe 15 minutes, depending on what you're doing. You know, what if I didn't have to do laundry every day? What if I didn't have to do my dishes every day? What if, you know, I didn't have to go to the grocery store? Well, we don't really have to go to grocery stores all that often anymore.

37:24You know, but, you know, if you have time saved, what do you do with that time? And I think a lot of people are like, I don't know now I have free time But there's all these things that you would have done you would have tackled If you had the free time that you didn't have before and I think that that's a really good point that Andrew is is hitting on here is You don't really understand what you can achieve until you have the opportunity to achieve that Yeah, yeah super true super true. Thank you, Andrew Very much so. If you're thinking about something along these lines, you have insight into a story, you want us to talk about something going forward, share all of that with us.

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